Aleksandar Mitrović 28 Prem goals 89 matches (6,683 mins) 239 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game
Raúl Jiménez. 27 Prem goals 88 matches (6,500 mins) 240 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game
(* Data from chatgpt)
I guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?
Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going
Mitro certainly the more clinical goalscorer and worse penalty taker generally speaking
And lest we forget....Raul never had to play under Scott Parker. Which is the real handicap this stat doesn't cover.
Would be intrueged to see the stats per minutes under Silva in the prem
Regardless both important players for us in recent years and huge credit to Raul for his comeback after that awful head injury. Much loved and rightly so he's helped keep us competitive through all the other injury woes to key players in attack
Need to consider the number of penalties missed by Mitro. He was never great from the spot.
Interesting stats. Big difference is how Mitro went about his personal battle with the centre back.
Mitro: over,under,through or around, with a marked preference for over & through.
Raul: more on the receiving end of the above, craftier too. Rather less likely to get the crowd going
Both equally effective. Football's great like that, all sorts of approaches to getting the ball in the net.
Quote from: Snibbo on February 27, 2026, 10:33:05 AMAleksandar Mitrović 28 Prem goals 89 matches (6,683 mins) 239 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game
Raúl Jiménez. 27 Prem goals 88 matches (6,500 mins) 240 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game
(* Data from chatgpt)
Chatgpt has given you some bad info, at least when it comes to PL minutes played for Fulham. According to the PL's official site, Raul has only played 5690 league minutes for Fulham (27 goals is correct, and for the person who asked he has 6 assists). Mitrovic played 6712 PL minutes for Fulham (28 goals and 7 assists).
Quote from: KentFulham on February 27, 2026, 10:42:48 AMI guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?
Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going
They've had same amount of pens (13 each) rauls just obviously been more successful with his.
48% of rauls goals are from the penalty spot
13 pens out of 27 goals
Mitros 8 pens out of 28 prem goals
Still bloody great that rauls as accurate as he is from em.
Had Mitro been as accurate from the spot he'd have 33 goals. Again though,plenty of this was under Scott parker where whole team was useless under a god awful manager.
Quote from: jayffc on February 27, 2026, 02:25:29 PMQuote from: KentFulham on February 27, 2026, 10:42:48 AMI guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?
Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going
They've had same amount of pens (13 each) rauls just obviously been more successful with his.
48% of rauls goals are from the penalty spot
13 pens out of 27 goals
Mitros 8 pens out of 28 prem goals
Still bloody great that rauls as accurate as he is from em.
Had Mitro been as accurate from the spot he'd have 33 goals. Again though,plenty of this was under Scott parker where whole team was useless under a god awful manager.
Mitro was certainly the better goal scorer in open play. I also put this down to mitro generally knowing where to be, he was typically there in the box. Raul can sometimes be found a bit behind the pace, or out of position
A common opinion I have seen expressed on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.
Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 27, 2026, 03:22:47 PMA common opinion I have seen expressed on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.
Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO
Both Muniz and Mitro have better non penalty goals per 90 minutes ratios than Raul, and considering the fact that we have a lot of superb penalty takers now, that fact is very much relevant.
As others have said, Mitro played under Parker in the PL, and also played in another terrible PL season in which we had 3 different managers (none of them being close to Marco). Raul exclusively played under Marco, in a team that was midtable/battling for Europe. That skews the numbers a lot.
Raul is a fine player and has done really well for us, but Mitro was better. I also think Muniz is better, but unfortunately he was very unlucky with injuries recently. I think that if he stays fit, he'll again show that he's the superior player, at least in this stage of their respective careers.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 03:40:30 PMQuote from: ffcthereligion on February 27, 2026, 03:22:47 PMA common opinion I have seen expressed on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.
Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO
Both Muniz and Mitro have better non penalty goals per 90 minutes ratios than Raul
That's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 04:04:48 PMThat's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).
You're right, Raul's recent goalscoring form must habe tipped that in his favour, as I remember doing that comparison between the three of them recently and it wasn't the case.
Either way, Mitro's stats are extremely skewed by the two relegation seasons.
In the one season he played under Marco (+ that one 32 mimute cameo in the opening match of the next season before he left), he had 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 minutes. Raul has 0.33. If you count penalties it's 0.61 compared to 0.43.
When they played under Marco, Mitro had more non penalty goals per 90 minutes than Raul has including penalties. I don't see how e.g. playing in a Fulham team under Parker is relevant.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 04:54:08 PMQuote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 04:04:48 PMThat's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).
You're right, Raul's recent goalscoring form must habe tipped that in his favour, as I remember doing that comparison between the three of them recently and it wasn't the case.
You must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.
And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 06:01:12 PMYou must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.
And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!
Raul played almost 600-700 less minutes, that's a ridiculously low sample size. And the difference is only 0.00206782464. Mitro also had an assist, which provided more goals per 90 than Raul, even in Raul's most prolific season.
Mitro had an even more ridiculous record the season before that, albeit in the Championship. There's no reason to think that season would be the exception and not the norm under Marco.
Muniz isnt to level of Raul, had a purple patch but not a proven Prem striker
Quote from: HobGoblin on February 27, 2026, 06:53:53 PMMuniz isnt to level of Raul, had a purple patch but not a proven Prem striker
I personally think he's better at the moment. Rauk was better at his peak, but Muniz has potential to be even better than that in the future. He just needs to stay fit for a longer period of time.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 06:17:44 PMQuote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 06:01:12 PMYou must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.
And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!
Raul played almost 600-700 less minutes, that's a ridiculously low sample size.
No sh*t, ~1400 minutes is a ridiculously small sample and to be clear ~2000 isn't a heck of a lot better. They're both very small sample sizes. That was my point. You can't make too much of either.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 06:17:44 PMMitro had an even more ridiculous record the season before that, albeit in the Championship. There's no reason to think that season would be the exception and not the norm under Marco.
There are
plenty of reasons to think that. The footballing world is littered with strikers who have had a hot couple of seasons only so see them slump back to their historical norm (or worse). Alas we'll never know how things would have turned out with Mitro had he stayed with Fulham, but at the end of the day I personally think that, while it was extremely disappointing at the time, we're probably better off in the long term getting the fee we did a couple seasons ago.
2 completely different types of number nines.
Mitro ,heavier and very strong and pre Marco an out and out goalscorer. MS not only got the best out of him but developed and improved him as a player . An old school number nine and areal focal point who was impossible to fairly push off the ball. Was the main man and also became more team orientated under Marco.In his best years when playing for Fulham .A fantastic player for us .
Raul a more modern ,mobile striker . Over 30 when we got him after a horrific injury and written off by many. Quicker and more mobile than Mitro (despite his age ), but more easily pushed off the ball. During his time at Wolves ws top class and at a level in the premiership that Mitro never reached. A fantastic. piece of business by the club.
I do believe that if Mitro had stayed he could have gone to another level but he didint. As a team we were more restricted with Mitro . He was the main man (and fantastic at it ) but everything had to go through him.
the fact that people are making the comparison shows how well Raul has done as our number nine.
I would say Raul's a far better all round footballer than Mitro, but there's a lot to be said for bullying defenders the way Mitro did
A fit and confident Muniz is the best of the lot. A beast physically (how many players have you seen outmuscle Virgil Van Dijk?) but a clever technical player too
@Chi_FFC you could also look at his goalscoring record at other teams and it shows that he scored goals at a very high rate whenever he was in a good team. Or you can look at his international record which is more impressive than that of majority players ever.
Either way, I don't think this topic is particularly relevant. Quite a lot of time has passed since Mitro has left. No point in bringing him up pretty much every week like some posters seem to do. He was a great player for Fulham, but he chose money over playing at a high level.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 08:16:34 PM@Chi_FFC you could also look at his goalscoring record at other teams and it shows that he scored goals at a very high rate whenever he was in a good team.
Eh, Belgium/the Championship/Saudi Arabia/etc. ain't the PL.
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 08:16:34 PM@Chi_FFC you could also look at his goalscoring record at other teams and it shows that he scored goals at a very high rate whenever he was in a good team.
Eh, Belgium/the Championship/Saudi Arabia/etc. ain't the PL.
The point is, when he is in a good team, relative to the quality of the competition, he produces. Partizan is a good team in terms of the relative quality of the Serbian league, same goes for Anderlecht and Belgian league, or Fulham in the Championship under Jokanovic/Parker/Silva. Serbia, is a decent, of not great team in the international format. He scored at all those teams at a great rate. In terms of his PL teams, only the PL season under Marco is comparable as it was at a good team.
Or do you think the season under Parker is a fair reflection of the quality of player that played in it? If you look at that team, most of them heavily underperformed that year. Lookman came pretty close to winning Ballon D'or ffs. Anguissa has been one of the best and most consistent players for Napoli who have been one of the best teams in Italy since he arrived.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 09:03:12 PMQuote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 08:16:34 PM@Chi_FFC you could also look at his goalscoring record at other teams and it shows that he scored goals at a very high rate whenever he was in a good team.
Eh, Belgium/the Championship/Saudi Arabia/etc. ain't the PL.
The point is, when he is in a good team, relative to the quality of the competition, he produces.
Never said he didn't produce. I'm just skeptical that he would have continued scoring a npg every 200 minutes in the PL, that's all. And I think you're making far too much of a really good 2000 minute sample while ignoring anything that may paint a less rosy picture of his potential production. But again, we'll never know.
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 09:14:09 PMNever said he didn't produce. I'm just skeptical that he would have continued scoring a npg every 200 minutes in the PL, that's all. And I think you're making far too much of a really good 2000 minute sample while ignoring anything that may paint a less rosy picture of his potential production. But again, we'll never know.
And I think you're making too much of terrible two seasons where we were arguably the worst team in the league(both times). Also Mitro played through injury for around half of that season under Marco.
But, at the end of the day, like I've already said, I don't think it's that important to begin with, considering Mitro's been out of Fulham for a considerable time now. I really don't know why people continue to start topics about him. Move on.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 09:26:30 PMQuote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 09:14:09 PMNever said he didn't produce. I'm just skeptical that he would have continued scoring a npg every 200 minutes in the PL, that's all. And I think you're making far too much of a really good 2000 minute sample while ignoring anything that may paint a less rosy picture of his potential production. But again, we'll never know.
But, at the end of the day, like I've already said, I don't think it's that important to begin with, considering Mitro's been out of Fulham for a considerable time now. I really don't know why people continue to start topics about him. Move on.
It's very relevant in putting Raúl's record in some sort of perspective, especially when it is said that we never replaced Mitro. Mitro was a hero, but Raúl in many ways is doing just as well. Different players of course in different teams.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 27, 2026, 09:26:30 PMQuote from: Chi_FFC on February 27, 2026, 09:14:09 PMNever said he didn't produce. I'm just skeptical that he would have continued scoring a npg every 200 minutes in the PL, that's all. And I think you're making far too much of a really good 2000 minute sample while ignoring anything that may paint a less rosy picture of his potential production. But again, we'll never know.
And I think you're making too much of terrible two seasons
Eh, this reflects a pretty clear misunderstanding of what I've been saying. Anyhow, unlike you who said "there's
no reason to think that season [22-23] would be the exception and not the norm under Marco" I'm willing to entertain that there are a range of possibilities (while having an opinion on what the most likeliest of those would have been), though like I've said multiple times, we'll never know.
We saw Mitro in his prime. Raul was banging in just as many goals at Wolves in his prime (before injury). Probably similar level players in ability. I'd imagine Raul just shades it for consistency and then totally eclipses him as a team player.
Blaming Parker for Mitro's bad form? I still blame Mitro for Parkers bad form that season, although Parker never did himself any favours. Mitro just made Parker look totally wrong the following season. Which was indeed very funny.
As for who is closest to getting a statue at the Cottage. Raul all day long
Quote from: Cambridge Away on February 27, 2026, 11:32:55 PMWe saw Mitro in his prime. Raul was banging in just as many goals at Wolves in his prime (before injury). Probably similar level players in ability. I'd imagine Raul just shades it for consistency and then totally eclipses him as a team player.
Blaming Parker for Mitro's bad form? I still blame Mitro for Parkers bad form that season, although Parker never did himself any favours. Mitro just made Parker look totally wrong the following season. Which was indeed very funny.
Raul in his prime was one of the best in the Pl . At 32 (? and after a career threatening injury )we have seen him at Fulham . I loved Mitro but over his career Raul has reaches much higher heights . ( the last sentence below isn t mine )
As for who is closest to getting a statue at the Cottage. Raul all day long
Re penalty taking (from Claude this time)
So in total in the Premier League for Fulham, Mitrović missed 4 penalties (all in the 2022-23 season), while scoring 5. That gives him a conversion rate of 5 out of 9 (56%) for Fulham — quite poor by top-flight standards.
By contrast, Jiménez has now scored his 13th Premier League penalty without a single miss, with 7 of those coming for Fulham. A 100% conversion rate vs Mitrović's 56% is a very significant difference in that part of the game.
And separating out penalties:
The overall goal tallies are extremely close (28 vs 27), but once you strip out penalties, Mitrović has a stronger non-penalty record — 23 open-play/free-kick goals versus Jiménez's 20, in roughly the same number of minutes. Mitrović is also slightly more efficient from open play (a non-penalty goal every 283 minutes vs Jiménez's 328). Jiménez, however, has been the far more dangerous penalty taker — 7 spot-kicks converted without a single miss, compared to Mitrović's 5 — and Jiménez's totals are still rising with the season ongoing.
Still think Raul is the most reliable finisher we have as Muniz can't stay fit .get Raul re signed.
I agree, definitely sign him for another season. 👍
I was surprised it was that close. I would have thought Mitro was streets ahead. Am I right in thinking Rauls have all been in the Prem and Mitro's a mix of Prem and Championship?
As Raul gets subbed alot is he better goals per minute as well?
Quote from: I Ronic on February 28, 2026, 10:24:37 AMI was surprised it was that close. I would have thought Mitro was streets ahead. Am I right in thinking Rauls have all been in the Prem and Mitro's a mix of Prem and Championship?
As Raul gets subbed alot is he better goals per minute as well?
The stats posted by everyone is only in the PL. It would be unfair to Raul to include the Championship record.
Quote from: Kimbleman on February 28, 2026, 09:22:20 AMI agree, definitely sign him for another season. 👍
Assuming we sign Pepi (or another)
Can we really afford to have a third striking option, given we have muniz, on what is rumoured to be over £100k per week? It just hamstrings us massively for what we can spend on important positions.
We were already close to our limit for SCR. In reality we have to shed some wages to make room for any incomings. Bobb will be on less than Adama so that's something, Wilson gone would mean some space, but he'd then need replacing... trying to keep him would mean probably a significant pay rise. Where else would the SCR wiggle room come from?
Sell Castagne? - ok but we'll need a replacement RB.
Sell Diop perhaps and replace with LDF, though this is of course a risk.
Ultimately Rauls 100k+ per week would go a long way to securing a quality CM and wing replacement for Harry.
Sign up JKA or another youth prospect for the third spot I say and let Raul retire back home. He's been incredible value for money and a huge credit to himself for outperforming expectations of many, but given his age, there are strikers out there capable of adding more to our overall game over 90s mins going forward in my opinion - like Pepi...and therefore he's too expensive to keep in reserve and deserves to see out his career playing back home to a heros welcome imo.
As for comments Raul is the most reliable finisher - yes, if it's because Muniz isn't fit, because rodrigos goals per 90 stats are better when he is fit, and his stats there are not affected by being the main penalty taker - but as above, we're in ongoing talks with Pepi. The whole point of that being for him to become the main competition for our main striking spot next season, so in that instance he's intended to be the man to compete with Muniz and/or play when he's not available.
Quote from: jayffc on February 28, 2026, 12:00:54 PMQuote from: Kimbleman on February 28, 2026, 09:22:20 AMI agree, definitely sign him for another season. 👍
Sell Diop perhaps and replace with LDF, though this is of course a risk.
Yeah, he's not even a regular starter (started 3 of last 10 he was available for) for the last place/worst defensive side in the Belgian league. I don't think he's close to being ready for the PL.
I think Raul is far better looking than Mitro.
If I was a woman I think I would fall for Raul's Zorro like swashbuckling, suave feel.
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on March 01, 2026, 01:58:04 AMI think Raul is far better looking than Mitro.
If I was a woman I think I would fall for Raul's Zorro like swashbuckling, suave feel.
:slap: