Raúl v Mitro. Have a look at the stats

[Snibbo]

Aleksandar Mitrović 28 Prem goals 89 matches (6,683 mins) 239 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game

Raúl Jiménez.           27 Prem goals 88 matches (6,500 mins) 240 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game


(* Data from chatgpt)

[KentFulham]

I guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?

Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going

[jayffc]

Mitro certainly the more clinical goalscorer and worse penalty taker generally speaking

And lest we forget....Raul never had to play under Scott Parker. Which is the real handicap this stat doesn't cover.

Would be intrueged to see the stats per minutes under Silva in the prem

Regardless both important players for us in recent years and huge credit to Raul for his comeback after that awful head injury. Much loved and rightly so he's helped keep us competitive through all the other injury woes to key players in attack

[Bill2]

Need to consider the number of penalties missed by Mitro. He was never great from the spot.

[Carborundum]

Interesting stats.  Big difference is how Mitro went about his personal battle with the centre back. 

Mitro: over,under,through or around, with a marked preference for over & through. 

Raul:  more on the receiving end of the above, craftier too.  Rather less likely to get the crowd going

Both equally effective.  Football's great like that, all sorts of approaches to getting the ball in the net. 

[Chi_FFC]

Aleksandar Mitrović 28 Prem goals 89 matches (6,683 mins) 239 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game

Raúl Jiménez.           27 Prem goals 88 matches (6,500 mins) 240 mins / goal 0.31 goals / game


(* Data from chatgpt)

Chatgpt has given you some bad info, at least when it comes to PL minutes played for Fulham. According to the PL's official site, Raul has only played 5690 league minutes for Fulham (27 goals is correct, and for the person who asked he has 6 assists). Mitrovic played 6712 PL minutes for Fulham (28 goals and 7 assists).

[jayffc]

I guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?

Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going

They've had same amount of pens (13 each) rauls just obviously been more successful with his.

48% of rauls goals are from the penalty spot

13 pens out of 27 goals

Mitros 8 pens out of 28 prem goals

Still bloody great that rauls as accurate as he is from em.

Had Mitro been as accurate from the spot he'd have 33 goals. Again though,plenty of this was under Scott parker where whole team was useless under a god awful manager.

[KentFulham]

I guess Raul has more Pens than Mitro. Would be interesting to see their assists?

Mitro feels like the better alround player, though he should never have been the penalty taker. I feel like Mitro brought more to the pitch, atmosphere, he knew how to wind people up, he could get the crown going

They've had same amount of pens (13 each) rauls just obviously been more successful with his.

48% of rauls goals are from the penalty spot

13 pens out of 27 goals

Mitros 8 pens out of 28 prem goals

Still bloody great that rauls as accurate as he is from em.

Had Mitro been as accurate from the spot he'd have 33 goals. Again though,plenty of this was under Scott parker where whole team was useless under a god awful manager.

Mitro was certainly the better goal scorer in open play. I also put this down to mitro generally knowing where to be, he was typically there in the box. Raul can sometimes be found a bit behind the pace, or out of position

[ffcthereligion]

A common opinion I have seen expressed  on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.

Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO

[SerbianLad]

A common opinion I have seen expressed  on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.

Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO

Both Muniz and Mitro have better non penalty goals per 90 minutes ratios than Raul, and considering the fact that we have a lot of superb penalty takers now, that fact is very much relevant.

As others have said, Mitro played under Parker in the PL, and also played in another terrible PL season in which we had 3 different managers (none of them being close to Marco). Raul exclusively played under Marco, in a team that was midtable/battling for Europe. That skews the numbers a lot.

Raul is a fine player and has done really well for us, but Mitro was better. I also think Muniz is better, but unfortunately he was very unlucky with injuries recently. I think that if he stays fit, he'll again show that he's the superior player, at least in this stage of their respective careers.

[Chi_FFC]

A common opinion I have seen expressed  on this board is that we never replaced mitrovic. As these stats demonstrate, that opinion is wrong.

Other than simple bias/favouritism towards Mitro and Muniz on account of their showman like qualities, I simply cannot understand how anyone could prefer them to Raul. A far superior all round player IMO

Both Muniz and Mitro have better non penalty goals per 90 minutes ratios than Raul

That's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).

[SerbianLad]

That's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).

You're right, Raul's recent goalscoring form must habe tipped that in his favour, as I remember doing that comparison between the three of them recently and it wasn't the case.

Either way, Mitro's stats are extremely skewed by the two relegation seasons.

In the one season he played under Marco (+ that one 32 mimute cameo in the opening match of the next season before he left), he had 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 minutes. Raul has 0.33. If you count penalties it's 0.61 compared to 0.43.

When they played under Marco, Mitro had more non penalty goals per 90 minutes than Raul has including penalties. I don't see how e.g. playing in a Fulham team under Parker is relevant.

[Chi_FFC]

That's true for Muniz but not Mitro if we're talking about npgs in the PL for Fulham (and Fulham stats are what the OP was referencing).

You're right, Raul's recent goalscoring form must habe tipped that in his favour, as I remember doing that comparison between the three of them recently and it wasn't the case.

You must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.

And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!

[SerbianLad]

You must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.

And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!

Raul played almost 600-700 less minutes, that's a ridiculously low sample size. And the difference is only 0.00206782464. Mitro also had an assist, which provided more goals per 90 than Raul, even in Raul's most prolific season.

Mitro had an even more ridiculous record the season before that, albeit in the Championship. There's no reason to think that season would be the exception and not the norm under Marco.

[HobGoblin]

Muniz isnt to level of Raul, had a purple patch but not a proven Prem striker

[SerbianLad]

Muniz isnt to level of Raul, had a purple patch but not a proven Prem striker

I personally think he's better at the moment. Rauk was better at his peak, but Muniz has potential to be even better than that in the future. He just needs to stay fit for a longer period of time.

[Chi_FFC]

You must be misremembering (or your calculations were wrong at the time) because the last time Raul's Fulham npg rate was worse than Mitro's was in December of 2023.

And look, if we're going to ignore non Marco Fulham seasons for Mitro we're down to a pretty small sample size (~2000 minutes in one season). It wouldn't surprise me at all if that 22-23 season would have been his high water mark in the PL (though we'll never know). If you want to talk about small sample sizes, hell Raul's npg rate in his first season for us was actually better than Mitro's the prior season!

Raul played almost 600-700 less minutes, that's a ridiculously low sample size.

No sh*t, ~1400 minutes is a ridiculously small sample and to be clear ~2000 isn't a heck of a lot better. They're both very small sample sizes. That was my point. You can't make too much of either.

Mitro had an even more ridiculous record the season before that, albeit in the Championship. There's no reason to think that season would be the exception and not the norm under Marco.

There are plenty of reasons to think that. The footballing world is littered with strikers who have had a hot couple of seasons only so see them slump back to their historical norm (or worse). Alas we'll never know how things would have turned out with Mitro had he stayed with Fulham, but at the end of the day I personally think that, while it was extremely disappointing at the time, we're probably better off in the long term getting the fee we did a couple seasons ago. 

[Colinwhite]

2 completely different types of number nines.

Mitro ,heavier and very strong and pre Marco an out and out goalscorer. MS not only got the best out of him but developed and improved him as a player . An old school number nine and areal focal point who was impossible to fairly push off the ball. Was the main man and also became more team orientated under Marco.In his best years when playing for Fulham .A fantastic player for us .

Raul a more modern ,mobile striker . Over 30 when we got him after a horrific injury and written off by many. Quicker and more mobile than Mitro (despite his age ), but more easily pushed off the ball. During his time at Wolves ws  top class and at a level in the premiership that Mitro never reached. A fantastic. piece of business by the club.
I do believe that if Mitro had stayed he could have gone to another level but he didint. As a team we were more restricted with Mitro . He was the main man (and fantastic at it ) but everything had to go through him.
the fact that people are making the comparison shows how well Raul has done as our number nine.

[Free Elvis Hammond]

I would say Raul's a far better all round footballer than Mitro, but there's a lot to be said for bullying defenders the way Mitro did

A fit and confident Muniz is the best of the lot. A beast physically (how many players have you seen outmuscle Virgil Van Dijk?) but a clever technical player too

[SerbianLad]

@Chi_FFC you could also look at his goalscoring record at other teams and it shows that he scored goals at a very high rate whenever he was in a good team. Or you can look at his international record which is more impressive than that of majority players ever.

Either way, I don't think this topic is particularly relevant. Quite a lot of time has passed since Mitro has left. No point in bringing him up pretty much every week like some posters seem to do. He was a great player for Fulham, but he chose money over playing at a high level.