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Poll
Question: Leno
Option 1: Keep 1st choice next season votes: 34
Option 2: Replace next season. votes: 52
Title: leno out
Post by: irishfulham on March 04, 2026, 09:35:35 PM
sick of seeing so many mistakes and not enough positives new keeper for next season please
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: FFC007 on March 04, 2026, 09:36:26 PM
Yep, think a refresh in goal in the summer is needed...

Not good enough.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Twig on March 04, 2026, 09:36:38 PM
Been saying that for about 2 mths now, he's clearly in decline.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Coastwalker on March 04, 2026, 09:37:35 PM
I think Lecomte needs a run in the side.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Milo on March 04, 2026, 09:37:37 PM
I'm in the "Leno in" camp. Think he's a very good 1 on 1 shot stopper. He's saved us a few times this season, as well as many times over the last few years. For £8m.. he's a solid Prem keeper.

But.. he's human. He will make the odd mistake. Today it was that he should've been more vocal and decisive. We obviously couldn't hear what was said but it needed someone to shout "Mine" and clear it into the stand. If you're 30 yards off your own goal line as a goalkeeper you need to play safe and boot it as far forward as possible.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: irishfulham on March 04, 2026, 09:39:49 PM
Is it time to time though? Spurs goal terrible positioning everton game terrible keeping on the corner etc ud expect any prem keeper to be good at 1 on ones. as roy keane would say it's their job.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: 3rdgenfan on March 04, 2026, 09:41:04 PM
Jose Sa might be available
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: cookieg on March 04, 2026, 09:41:26 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on March 04, 2026, 09:39:49 PMIs it time to time though? Spurs goal terrible positioning everton game terrible keeping on the corner etc ud expect any prem keeper to be good at 1 on ones. as roy keane would say it's their job.

It's also the job of strikers to score.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Milo on March 04, 2026, 09:41:56 PM
It's been his weakest season, I agree.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: KentFulham on March 04, 2026, 09:42:02 PM
Goal screw up and several kick outs to touch from messing about at the back.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: jayffc on March 04, 2026, 09:42:04 PM
He's been good enough and great value so far for what we needed. But it probably is time to consider looking for a new number 1 if one is available
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Chi_FFC on March 04, 2026, 09:46:07 PM
Lecomte isn't the answer but Leno has been poor for a couple seasons. He doesn't usually make terrible errors like the one he did today (and having watched it back a few times now that one is ALL on him) but he's not a good shot stopper. In fact he's been the worst shot stopper in the PL this season by quite some margin. He's got another year left on his deal and he's one of the highest (if not the highest?) paid players in the team so I'm not sure if the powers that be at the club are going to want to spring for a replacement this summer, but it's something they need to think about. If we had a roughly average PL keeper this season we'd be in 7th or 8th place rn.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: demeant0r on March 04, 2026, 09:50:31 PM
He's been absolutely awful this season. This was probably his worst game in the worst Fulham season.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: ffcthereligion on March 04, 2026, 09:52:05 PM
Agreed. Way past it and wildly overrated at his best too. Good value for money but priority position in the summer
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: The Rock on March 04, 2026, 09:55:38 PM
Agree with Leno out. Dispersion gets worse and worse. Tonight's performance just seemed like the tipping point.

If he wasn't the highest paid player in the squad and was on £3m a year instead of £6-7m I'd say keep him though.

Yes six seven!!! If that slang is used in the UK.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: hongkongfulham on March 04, 2026, 09:56:47 PM
could we get Ramsdale?
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: fulhamfever on March 04, 2026, 10:08:04 PM
Sam Johnstone
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on March 04, 2026, 10:09:59 PM
Should do a poll really,.I think most people will be Leno In.



Title: Re: leno out
Post by: irishfulham on March 04, 2026, 10:11:36 PM

It's also the job of strikers to score.
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Prob be a good idea for keeper not to kick it right to the striker then.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Coastwalker on March 04, 2026, 10:12:21 PM
Jim Stannard come on down.😄
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: irishfulham on March 04, 2026, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on March 04, 2026, 10:09:59 PMShould do a poll really,.I think most people will be Leno In.




Done
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: _Putney_ on March 04, 2026, 10:33:02 PM
Onana
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: FishaPrice on March 04, 2026, 10:48:09 PM
Leno in. That was an unfortunate miscommunication. Leno thought Bassey was going to take possession and Leno did not realize he was getting closed down from behind. Did anyone give him a shout, "man on!"?
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: cookieg on March 04, 2026, 11:01:34 PM
I've never seen a poll that that asks if we should offload Rail or. U is for missing loads of goals or TC for inability to defend. Seems like Leno is this season's scapegoat.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: fulhamfever on March 04, 2026, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: FishaPrice on March 04, 2026, 10:48:09 PMLeno in. That was an unfortunate miscommunication. Leno thought Bassey was going to take possession and Leno did not realize he was getting closed down from behind. Did anyone give him a shout, "man on!"?

Miscommunication 😂😂😂get rid of the ball then ask questions later that was a playground error
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Fulham 1879 on March 04, 2026, 11:17:53 PM
As long as we don't get Onana as his replacement he can go.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: SerbianLad on March 04, 2026, 11:19:33 PM
I've defended him a few times this season,because I thought some of the criticism he received was unjust, but his error today is indefensible.

I'm not saying we should get rid, I think we should assess it when the season is over, I'm just saying that today he made a terrible mistake, and, in my opinion, he's the only reason we lost. I think it would have been a 0-0 draw if he didn't make that mistake.

It was worse than the Josh King vs Brentford mistake and that's without adding the factor that he's a veteran player and not a teenager. I'm sorry, but what he did today was completely unacceptable to me. He had full control of the situation and then instead of clearing the ball he just stopped and stood for a moment before he started running backwards. Every time they showed the replay it looked more baffling. I really don't know what his thought process was there. Terrible...
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: H4usuallysitting on March 04, 2026, 11:20:08 PM
In for me...their all in for me
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: itombomb on March 04, 2026, 11:22:41 PM
He's been in decline for a while and we absolutely should be looking to upgrade asap. He makes the odd great save, but he makes as many (if not more) howlers, he has the worst stats on expected saves in the league, and he's well below average with the ball at his feet.

Given the way the club operate I expect we'll see him for another season and then he'll be off when his contract is done. What we should do is try and offload him for any transfer fee someone is willing to pay, and bring in a replacement.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Chi_FFC on March 04, 2026, 11:36:58 PM
Quote from: itombomb on March 04, 2026, 11:22:41 PMWhat we should do is try and offload him for any transfer fee someone is willing to pay, and bring in a replacement.
I suspect the club would be delighted if they could get something for him this summer, but because of his performances and hefty contract I doubt there will be any takers.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: love4ffc on March 05, 2026, 12:54:29 AM
For the record, I am of the mind that it is time to move on from Leno.  I really like the guy, but I do think it is time to move on.  He is reported to be making £130K per week / £7 million per year.  That is more than Arsenal's David Raya at £100K per week.  For me, that is too much money being spent on a keeper who keeps making major mistakes, costing games and points. 

I think it would be better to bring in a new keeper this summer.  If we don't replace him enough ahead of time, we could find ourselves in a real bind and out of time. 
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Bassey the warrior on March 05, 2026, 01:01:07 AM
Quote from: FishaPrice on March 04, 2026, 10:48:09 PMLeno in. That was an unfortunate miscommunication. Leno thought Bassey was going to take possession and Leno did not realize he was getting closed down from behind. Did anyone give him a shout, "man on!"?

Agree, Leno is more at fault but it's not a howler. He could've taken charge but so could Bassey, it was a mix up. Leno did all the hard work by getting in position and retaining his composure. It was unfortunate that's what cost us in the end, but West Ham did create and spurn other chances.

That being said, I think we should upgrade if an opportunity arises as his shot stopping from range isn't always the best but CM and striker are higher priority. Also, retaining Silva and Wilson and signing Chuk.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Jim© on March 05, 2026, 09:30:30 AM
I've been saying that Leno needs replacing for 2 seasons, so not a knee jerk on another one of his **** ups last night.

You need a keeper that will prevent goals, not give them away. In the last few games his has given points away- W Ham and Everton when he punched the ball into his own net. There's more going back. Also, his save % is low, really low. He is now second bottom of the Premier League keepers, with only Leeds lower than him. https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepers/Premier-League-Stats

Look at keepers like Sels last season, he was gaining points for Forest with his displays, Kepa at Bournemouth too. We have the opposite and it needs fixing. His wages are a bit of a millstone around our neck too, £130k a week for Sunday league stuff, not good enough.

Go get that Stoke keeper and let him learn...
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Milo on March 05, 2026, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: fulhamfever on March 04, 2026, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: FishaPrice on March 04, 2026, 10:48:09 PMLeno in. That was an unfortunate miscommunication. Leno thought Bassey was going to take possession and Leno did not realize he was getting closed down from behind. Did anyone give him a shout, "man on!"?

Miscommunication 😂😂😂get rid of the ball then ask questions later that was a playground error

I suppose at the highest level they could argue "booting it out" is a bit lower league.. and to try to turn possession is the ideal scenario.

So clearly it was a miscommunication issue. Neither took responsibility for it. You either shout "mine" or you shout "your ball" or equivalent. Clearly it wasn't firm enough.

I suspect it was Leno who wasn't firm enough as it's always the GK who needs to lead that scenario if he's the one out of position.

Something Leno needs to work on at both corners and general play.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Andy S on March 05, 2026, 10:07:59 AM
All keepers make mistakes. There is no need to replace him yet. Even tonight he made some good stops
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: hopper on March 05, 2026, 10:21:52 AM
Definitely feel we need to upgrade on Leno - and this isn't a reaction to last night. His shot stopping performance is low, let's a lot of long range shots fly past him, his distribution is poor.

Rarely drops a howler like he did last night, but it doesn't help his cause.

Can't imagine there's been many/any games last two seasons where the opposition fans leave feeling he kept us in it.

I think this image that he's a dependable keeper is completely off. He was absolutely superb in our first season back up, but three seasons now of being below average unfortunately and he's on high wages.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: FFC007 on March 05, 2026, 01:00:38 PM
Jose Sa would be available for next season....

Title: Re: leno out
Post by: KentFulham on March 05, 2026, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: hopper on March 05, 2026, 10:21:52 AMDefinitely feel we need to upgrade on Leno - and this isn't a reaction to last night. His shot stopping performance is low, let's a lot of long range shots fly past him, his distribution is poor.

Rarely drops a howler like he did last night, but it doesn't help his cause.

Can't imagine there's been many/any games last two seasons where the opposition fans leave feeling he kept us in it.

I think this image that he's a dependable keeper is completely off. He was absolutely superb in our first season back up, but three seasons now of being below average unfortunately and he's on high wages.

It was only 2 weeks ago he punched the ball into the net
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Jim© on March 05, 2026, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: FFC007 on March 05, 2026, 01:00:38 PMJose Sa would be available for next season....



Just don't think he'd be a big step up for us. If we really want to progress, we'll need a keeper that is saving more shots than he should. Don't think Sa or Leno is that. Sa, like Leno has had one above average season in the last 4.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 05, 2026, 01:58:12 PM
It's all about bad habits, and once they creep in to a players game, especially a goalkeeper then it is difficult to reverse. He is suppose to train during the a week so he should be able to do the basics with his eyes closed, but he doesn't.
Yes he makes agile saves, but so
do all keepers and even on a Sunday morning.
There is more to Goalkeeping than that.
You have to command your area have strong upper body strength.
A keeper is facing play and often his defenders aren't so he has to talk to them all the time and loud enough for everyone of them to
hear.
His timings coming off his line.
Getting his angles right, cleanly dealing with crosses and his distribution.
He always looks nervous when a defender passes the ball back to him, and more often than not he wellies the ball into row Z.
He just rarely looks comfortable.
Plus I do not think he is concise or loud enough in his communication.
So for me, if Fulham want to progress they need a bigger more powerful keeper who will command his area as if it was his front garden, and be more precise when handling crosses.
Otherwise we will all be saying the same things in 12 months time.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: bobbo on March 05, 2026, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Coastwalker on March 04, 2026, 10:12:21 PMJim Stannard come on down.😄
you sure 😖
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Craven Mad on March 05, 2026, 02:09:51 PM
I've not been convinced by Leno for a few seasons now. I like him, but I don't think he's cutting it tbh.

Personally id really like to see us going for Carl Rushworth. He's been the best keeper in the Championship this season, on loan from Brighton (but in the final year of contract, so should be available) and is young/british. He's the perfect candidate to start challenging Leno's starting spot next season, with the intention of being first choice the season after.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: sunburywhite on March 05, 2026, 03:17:08 PM
Get Trafford
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: WindyCity on March 06, 2026, 03:35:21 PM
As some forum members know, I've never really warmed up to Leno.  I will acknowledge that his first season in a FFC shirt was probably his best.  I recall even voting him motm several times during his first season.  That said, I also felt in that first FFC season he looked rather dodgy in many games.  These last couple of seasons he's been bang mediocre, if not sub mediocre.  Just not confident in him keeping a clean sheet.  For a mid table club, we should have many more clean sheets than we do.  The goals conceded recently v Spurs and WHU were just terrible, and obviously cost us ground in the table.  I would have no problem with FFC looking for keeper upgrade next season.  If he stays with club, so be it, but might be nice to bring in a backup that could challenge.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Jimmy Hill on March 06, 2026, 03:41:16 PM
Better the devil you know. He will be playing for us next season.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Somerset Fulham on March 06, 2026, 09:03:57 PM
He is still more than good enough.  The knee jerks on this forum from some after an admittedlty bad night are mental, Bassey could have also sorted that problem out but didn't..

That said, there would be no harm with a rejig in the keeping department. We can start to look at that sort of improvement in the squad now.

If Lecomte isn't good enough to seriously challenge Leno (and it doesn't appear that he is), then perhaps we need to look at replacing Lecomte with somebody younger and seriously up and coming to take over and remain between the sticks for the best part of a decade moving forward.

Somebody mentioned Trafford, I can't imagine that Ramsdale staying put for long in a club no better than us and he needs to find a home. I am sure there are others.

That is the route that I would take anyway.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: SerbianLad on March 06, 2026, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on March 06, 2026, 09:03:57 PMRamsdale
Please no. Serial loser. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Fulham.
Title: Re: leno out
Post by: Somerset Fulham on March 06, 2026, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on March 06, 2026, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on March 06, 2026, 09:03:57 PMRamsdale
Please no. Serial loser. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Fulham.

Fair! Fair!  :slap: I was just trying to think of names, and think if he was actually settled with a path to number one it could work out.

But totally hear you pal!