This is too funny not to share and may help you guys get over your frustrations regarding yesterday's game. I unfortunately did not see it (nor did I see the summary) but no doubt I'll see it soon and be as grumpy/annoyed as some of you are ;-)
Yesterday it was announced that former international (he quit playing for the national team as a result of a disagreement with the manager) Stijn Stijnen was banned to the B-team of Club Brugge, a former Belgian glory but still playing regular European football. It was odd at first since Stijnen was what was called "the face of Club Brugge", defending the team when in crisis and being its captain. After his injury last year, he never really recovered and a younger goalie is now keeping instead of him. He had vented frustration, but that is normal I guess.
Now it turned out that Stijnen (or somebody in his environment) had been anonymously posting on internet fora of/on the club, criticizing his two competitors for a place in goal and his other team mates, criticizing the manager and criticizing the management for being short-sighted. He was also very active in telling how good he was and how committed he was to Club Bruges. All in all, he had been active since November (!) in this operation, earning himself a reputation as a critical poster and 'Stijnen lover'. Funnily enough he was, at one time, holding a conversation with himself (with two accounts) of how good "Stijnen" was and how bad all the others.
If somebody needs a goalkeeper with a bad reputation (and in my opinion a bad goalkeeper), he'll probably be extremely cheap.
Now, who would be the secret Fulham player posting on this board? Any thoughts? :011:
I know Volzy used to post, and i suspect Etuhu was on here not that long ago.
Don't know about posting, but I know for a fact that several read the site ever so often.
Which begs another question, who do you think of the current Fulham players sit when they pee? :032:
I reckon Danny sits. He is too old and clever to stand
Quote from: finnster01 on February 21, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Don't know about posting, but I know for a fact that several read the site ever so often.
Which begs another question, who do you think of the current Fulham players sit when they pee? :032:
I reckon Danny sits. He is too old and clever to stand
Out of interest, how do you know some of the players pop in?
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on February 21, 2011, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: finnster01 on February 21, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Don't know about posting, but I know for a fact that several read the site ever so often.
Which begs another question, who do you think of the current Fulham players sit when they pee? :032:
I reckon Danny sits. He is too old and clever to stand
Out of interest, how do you know some of the players pop in?
Because some told me when I asked.
Quote from: finnster01 on February 21, 2011, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on February 21, 2011, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: finnster01 on February 21, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Don't know about posting, but I know for a fact that several read the site ever so often.
Which begs another question, who do you think of the current Fulham players sit when they pee? :032:
I reckon Danny sits. He is too old and clever to stand
Out of interest, how do you know some of the players pop in?
Because some told me when I asked.
Funny, I wonder what they think of us idiots posting at all hours about something as relatively inconsequential to the greater scheme of things like football.
Also, for some players, it cannot do their mindset much. At least Sally cannot speak English atm!
Chris Coleman definitely used to read them because someone was working round his house and he had the official baord up on his computer.
RH referred directly to Zamora reading too many messagebaords when all the agressive goal celebration stuff was going on.
I think its human nature to read them. You see interviews with retired sports stars where they say that they would advise young sports pros to just not read the papers but in any dressing room/club you will always get them and lets face it, football players have eff all else to do.
I think that, even though most sports professional are not the brightest, they still recognise that many members of the public are suffering from different strengths of mental illness and that a lot of what the fans do/say should be looked at in that context. When you realise how many different forms of mental illness there are and how many people suffer from them it makes life a whole lot clearer.
Now, back to my OCD! :59:
Put it this way if you was a footballer wouldn't you want to know what the fans are saying bout you. And as WN put it "they have feck all else to do" .
I resent that Mr FFC sir.
We work really hard.
I have to get up by 9am every day, and when it is not a match day have to undertake the arduous task of communting from Oxshott to Motspur Park in my Bentley in time for lunch. Then after a couple of hours stretching and fannying around with this weird round object I have to go home and boot up the Playstation. I'm lucky if I am back by 4pm!
Quote from: Burt on February 21, 2011, 01:22:51 PM
I resent that Mr FFC sir.
We work really hard.
I have to get up by 9am every day, and when it is not a match day have to undertake the arduous task of communting from Oxshott to Motspur Park in my Bentley in time for lunch. Then after a couple of hours stretching and fannying around with this weird round object I have to go home and boot up the Playstation. I'm lucky if I am back by 4pm!
How come you are posting then during the afternoon, mr. Burt, Sir?
The one thing I don't like on the board is when posters get over critical of individual Fulham players. If I played, I think I would respond to the individual accordingly and let him know who I am. (My Scottish temperament). It is OK to say that, for example, Baird dropped his standards yesterday. I am sure nobody knows that better than Baird.
I doubt EJ read this site, else he surely would have defended himself. :58:
I do hope Sanchez reads it though :bump:
Quote from: jarv on February 21, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
The one thing I don't like on the board is when posters get over critical of individual Fulham players. If I played, I think I would respond to the individual accordingly and let him know who I am. (My Scottish temperament). It is OK to say that, for example, Baird dropped his standards yesterday. I am sure nobody knows that better than Baird.
I doubt EJ read this site, else he surely would have defended himself. :58:
I do hope Sanchez reads it though :bump:
Sanchez can read? :58:
Quote from: sipwell on February 21, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
Quote from: Burt on February 21, 2011, 01:22:51 PM
I resent that Mr FFC sir.
We work really hard.
I have to get up by 9am every day, and when it is not a match day have to undertake the arduous task of communting from Oxshott to Motspur Park in my Bentley in time for lunch. Then after a couple of hours stretching and fannying around with this weird round object I have to go home and boot up the Playstation. I'm lucky if I am back by 4pm!
How come you are posting then during the afternoon, mr. Burt, Sir?
Mr Hughes gave us the day off so we could plan our well deserved trip to the Algarve. Packing takes a lot of time, and also trying to figure out which of my many mistresses to take with me has proven to be a bit of a headache.
Quote from: jarv on February 21, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
The one thing I don't like on the board is when posters get over critical of individual Fulham players. If I played, I think I would respond to the individual accordingly and let him know who I am. (My Scottish temperament). It is OK to say that, for example, Baird dropped his standards yesterday. I am sure nobody knows that better than Baird.
I doubt EJ read this site, else he surely would have defended himself. :58:
I do hope Sanchez reads it though :bump:
I liked it when Adrian Durham referred to Jamie Carragher as a bottler for withdrawing from international duty to concentrate on his club football. Carragher phoned up and offered him out on live radio.
I'm sure the club and staff read the boards, how many times has a mistake been made on the main site,mentioned on a forum and then changed.
Also, and I'm taking the credit on this one, earlier in the season I posted how in the pre match warm-up the twenty odd coaches we had would watch what was going on and also one would bring out about 12 bottles of lucozade or something like that, and then carry them back to the cottage, only to then bring them all back out when the players came out...and then at ht back to the cottage and then out for the second half.....next game they come out pre match and stay in the dugout. Sad that I spot these things but hey we dont have any pre match cravenettes to watch.
Quote from: White Noise on February 22, 2011, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: jarv on February 21, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
The one thing I don't like on the board is when posters get over critical of individual Fulham players. If I played, I think I would respond to the individual accordingly and let him know who I am. (My Scottish temperament). It is OK to say that, for example, Baird dropped his standards yesterday. I am sure nobody knows that better than Baird.
I doubt EJ read this site, else he surely would have defended himself. :58:
I do hope Sanchez reads it though :bump:
I liked it when Adrian Durham referred to Jamie Carragher as a bottler for withdrawing from international duty to concentrate on his club football. Carragher phoned up and offered him out on live radio.
Just proves the point that players read about themselves and also listen to call-in programes. At least carragher answered the questions and put his pov.
Didn't Lampard also phone in when some radio host started opining on the breakdown of his marriage? Absolutely took the bloke to pieces on air if memory serves. And good on him - frankly it's nobody else's fecking business and therefore they have no right to comment, irrespective of whether you're Prince Charles, Frank Lampard or Mr Jones from no. 24.
The only problem is that the players phoning in gives these parasites yet more publicity. Catch-22 in my opinion
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
Didn't Lampard also phone in when some radio host started opining on the breakdown of his marriage? Absolutely took the bloke to pieces on air if memory serves. And good on him - frankly it's nobody else's fecking business and therefore they have no right to comment, irrespective of whether you're Prince Charles, Frank Lampard or Mr Jones from no. 24.
The only problem is that the players phoning in gives these parasites yet more publicity. Catch-22 in my opinion
Depends on your outlook. As far as I am concerned, if you make money from being famous and in the public eye, then you forfeit a right to a certain amount of privacy. I am not a huge fan of gossip and the celebrity industry myself, but if you are making money from other people via your 'image rights' and whatnot, then you are fair game.
It may not be nice, but tough luck, you can just as easily do a Paul Scholes and stay away from all media spotlight.
Fair comment, AFC. I just don't hold with putting anyone on that much of a pedestal (for good or ill) that you think you somehow have a right to know the details of all the goings-on in their life.
A very subjective topic, for sure. My views are undoubtedly formed from personal experience - just gets right under my skin when people sound off to all and sundry when they don't have the first clue what they're talking about!
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Fair comment, AFC. I just don't hold with putting anyone on that much of a pedestal (for good or ill) that you think you somehow have a right to know the details of all the goings-on in their life.
A very subjective topic, for sure. My views are undoubtedly formed from personal experience - just gets right under my skin when people sound off to all and sundry when they don't have the first clue what they're talking about!
Completely agree, and again I am not particularly interested in John Terry or whatever but when they make money from selling their wares publicly, they should be held accountable.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on February 22, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Fair comment, AFC. I just don't hold with putting anyone on that much of a pedestal (for good or ill) that you think you somehow have a right to know the details of all the goings-on in their life.
A very subjective topic, for sure. My views are undoubtedly formed from personal experience - just gets right under my skin when people sound off to all and sundry when they don't have the first clue what they're talking about!
Completely agree, and again I am not particularly interested in John Terry or whatever but when they make money from selling their wares publicly, they should be held accountable.
I agree with the priniciple, but Frank Lampard doesn't make money from being famous, does he? (asides from sponsorship I suppose, but I'd imagine Scholes also goes in for a bit of that sort of thing).
Quote from: ImperialWhite on February 22, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on February 22, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Fair comment, AFC. I just don't hold with putting anyone on that much of a pedestal (for good or ill) that you think you somehow have a right to know the details of all the goings-on in their life.
A very subjective topic, for sure. My views are undoubtedly formed from personal experience - just gets right under my skin when people sound off to all and sundry when they don't have the first clue what they're talking about!
Completely agree, and again I am not particularly interested in John Terry or whatever but when they make money from selling their wares publicly, they should be held accountable.
I agree with the priniciple, but Frank Lampard doesn't make money from being famous, does he? (asides from sponsorship I suppose, but I'd imagine Scholes also goes in for a bit of that sort of thing).
Thats what I am talking about though - why should people who continously do immoral things (JT) get paid for being public role models (which is essential what endorsements in advertisement are)?
Obviously Lampard has actually done nothing wrong, but for me, the price you pay for making boatloads of money for shilling a product is public scrutiny.
As for Scholes, he is rare in that he does not court public opinion, I actually cannot name an ad he has been in. Lampard on the other hand has been in Tesco ads, Pepsi ads, Walkers crisps and Addidas.
It's an interesting debate; at what point do they cross the line from somebody who does an effective job within a very public industry to someone who trades on a particular image for personal benefit. The Terry case is a strange one, as I don't think he's ever traded on an image of being a wholesome family man so the gossip about him last year wasn't really contradictory to that.
In the case of Lampard, the marriage breakdown (and I think custody/care of the children was commented on as well) is not something that is part of the Lampard "package", if you see what I mean - e.g. he's not doing a "Wayne and Colleen", where each trades off the other's image to strengthen their own. So for me that one stands as a case outside the usual debate about the ramifications of courting media attention
Another interesting angle is to what degree they're put there by the media to be shot at. Brings in their agenda as well, thus forming some sort of mutual alliance that neither has any particular control over.
I guess I just fail to see the lure or point of being famous. Maybe why I enjoy the relative anonymity of places such as this!
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:17:31 AM
It's an interesting debate; at what point do they cross the line from somebody who does an effective job within a very public industry to someone who trades on a particular image for personal benefit. The Terry case is a strange one, as I don't think he's ever traded on an image of being a wholesome family man so the gossip about him last year wasn't really contradictory to that.
In the case of Lampard, the marriage breakdown (and I think custody/care of the children was commented on as well) is not something that is part of the Lampard "package", if you see what I mean - e.g. he's not doing a "Wayne and Colleen", where each trades off the other's image to strengthen their own. So for me that one stands as a case outside the usual debate about the ramifications of courting media attention
Another interesting angle is to what degree they're put there by the media to be shot at. Brings in their agenda as well, thus forming some sort of mutual alliance that neither has any particular control over.
I guess I just fail to see the lure or point of being famous. Maybe why I enjoy the relative anonymity of places such as this!
sorry to have to post this but:
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/PA-7464452.jpg)
That is John Terry winning 'Daddy of the year 2009'
If I was rich, I would be one of those behind the scenes rich people who secretly control the entire world, not a celebrity.
...The Doctor said: "Maybe why I enjoy the relative anonymity of places such as this!"
Oi!!!
There should be a right of privacy for private matters but that should be forfeited at the point that someone markets themselves - endorsements, sponsorship, employing PR people to make you money etc.
At that point I think you are fair game for whatever unpleasant things the media can find. Assuming, of course, that they're true.
AFC: I didn't even realise he'd "won" that! I stand corrected. I guess that particular deal has ended then!
LBNo11: You know what I mean! I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of people off here who know me by sight. Strangely liberating to have the freedom to say what you want without someone shouting in your face if they don't agree with you - provided there's mutual respect of course, which is something that FoF excels at. Might also explain why I'm not a massive Facebook user, despite having an account
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on February 22, 2011, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:17:31 AM
It's an interesting debate; at what point do they cross the line from somebody who does an effective job within a very public industry to someone who trades on a particular image for personal benefit. The Terry case is a strange one, as I don't think he's ever traded on an image of being a wholesome family man so the gossip about him last year wasn't really contradictory to that.
In the case of Lampard, the marriage breakdown (and I think custody/care of the children was commented on as well) is not something that is part of the Lampard "package", if you see what I mean - e.g. he's not doing a "Wayne and Colleen", where each trades off the other's image to strengthen their own. So for me that one stands as a case outside the usual debate about the ramifications of courting media attention
Another interesting angle is to what degree they're put there by the media to be shot at. Brings in their agenda as well, thus forming some sort of mutual alliance that neither has any particular control over.
I guess I just fail to see the lure or point of being famous. Maybe why I enjoy the relative anonymity of places such as this!
If I was rich, I would be one of those behind the scenes rich people who secretly control the entire world, not a celebrity.
Nah, I'd go down the John Madejski route. If I won the lottery I'd buy a football club, rename the stadium and build a statue of myself from solid gold to put in the board room before the end of the week.
...AFCB, that is and was obscene and a reminder why I stopped buying Daddies sauce and why I wanted to find an outlet for OK sauce.
Terry father if the year? Didn't they find out that the MD of the company that made the sauce was a supporter of the dark side..?
PS: Can you remove that picture too..?
Quote from: LBNo11 on February 22, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
...AFCB, that is and was obscene and a reminder why I stopped buying Daddies sauce and why I wanted to find an outlet for OK sauce.
Terry father if the year? Didn't they find out that the MD of the company that made the sauce was a supporter of the dark side..?
PS: Can you remove that picture too..?
I would remove it, but it sums up so perfectly this topic as well as actually being a fantastically bad look for mr.Terry
Bill Hicks on Jay Leno doing Dorito's commercials -
You do a commercial and you are off the artistic roll call forever. End of story.
If you do a commercial there is a price on your head. Everything you say is suspect and every word that comes out of your mouth is like a turd falling into my drink (caution bad language - NSFW) -
Bill Hicks rips Jay Leno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti73SgrLadU#)
Liam Rosenior definitely read Craven Cottage Newsround at least once.
I hope his magnificent goal-stopping 'fro was suitably commended!
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 10:28:19 AM
AFC: I didn't even realise he'd "won" that! I stand corrected. I guess that particular deal has ended then!
LBNo11: You know what I mean! I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of people off here who know me by sight. Strangely liberating to have the freedom to say what you want without someone shouting in your face if they don't agree with you - provided there's mutual respect of course, which is something that FoF excels at. Might also explain why I'm not a massive Facebook user, despite having an account
I'm watching you... :58:
Quote from: The Doctor on February 22, 2011, 11:13:33 AM
I hope his magnificent goal-stopping 'fro was suitably commended!
it was funny, I wrote how I'd seen him leaving the ground with his dad, and in fact it was his best mate... I wasn't the first to make the mistake, and said mate was a bit miffed as he was only in his 20s. Leroy does look very young though, in my defence....
Why would he be miffed?! Imagine all the "kids eat free" deals you could take advantage of!
Various players relatives are on Cottage Corner and probably on here. I think Stockers Mum is on here and his sister keeps an eye on Cottage Corner for him and he looks in himself. I think Zoltans Dad or brother is on Cottage Corner and I have posted about others on here that I have found on there. Stockers Aunt is on CC and I think Duff's brother. The players therefore probably here about some of the stuff on the boards one way or another. Stockers was answering messagebaord questions on his Twitter recently.
When Stockers joined from Darlo his Mum posted to say how proud they were.
On topic (:P): the Bruges player's contract was ended yesterday. He is a free agent now. Apparently he also posted on the forum of a team he wanted to go and play for (he told them how good he was).
Apparently the writer(s) didn't know that a forum always logs your IP. His girlfriend and brother admitted to writing all those threads/replies in the forum.
The great irony of it all is that Telenet - ISP in Belgium - has a system of fixed IPs... and is one of the sponsors of Bruges FC. In other words: they are responsible for the fact that one of the players of the team they financially support has been sacked now (and Bruges didn't receive any money for him, instead they LOST a transfer fee and had to cough up money to terminate his contract).
