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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MJG on February 22, 2011, 06:50:06 PM

Title: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: MJG on February 22, 2011, 06:50:06 PM
Was answering someone on the official forum about how we had only got 2 pts from 8 games against the top 6 teams and thought I would look at other clubs against them.

if you take just the bottom half of the lge here are how many pts they have got off of Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool/Man City/Man Utd & Spurs and how many games played.

Blackburn 4pts from 9 games

Everton 13-9

Birmingham 8-9

AV 6-10

Blackpool 6-7

WBA 5-8

wigan 6-8

WHU 3-7

Wolves 12-11

Now what do people think that means about us as a team?
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: White Noise on February 22, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
It means that it is very difficult to score goals against the top teams because they are all so well organised defensively but if you play without any recognised strikers against them it is pretty much impossible. 
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: ImperialWhite on February 22, 2011, 07:02:09 PM
Quote from: White Noise on February 22, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
It means that it is very difficult to score goals against the top teams because they are all so well organised defensively but if you play without any recognised strikers against them it is pretty much impossible.  

But that doesn't explain why teams even worse than us at scoring goals are doing well against the big sides.

Birmingham - bottom of the goals scored table - 6 more points than us.
Wolves - second from bottom of the goals scored table - 10 more points than us.
Wigan - third from bottom of the goals scored table - 4 more points than us.

(we're 17th in the table)
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: MJG on February 22, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
If we take the 8 games we have played against them and say we have had two players upfront on each occasion (one withdrawn maybe).
They have been filled in those games by:
Dempsey 5
A Johnson 4
Dembele 3
Kamara 2
Zamora 1
Gera 1

I would also say that the other 9 teams I listed must have had injures as well so the striker issue is a factor but I dont think its the only one.
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: White Noise on February 22, 2011, 07:08:17 PM
True enough. Don't know then.  :032:
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: TonyGilroy on February 22, 2011, 07:09:51 PM
It means we did better against lesser teams.

However you crunch the stats the fact is that we are currently 12th which I reckon most of us would accept as OK.
Title: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: ImperialWhite on February 22, 2011, 07:11:55 PM
For the two Chelsea games, I think fear is certainly a factor. We went for two 0-0s, and we almost managed it. Possibly explains the thrashing by Man City too.
Title: Re: Re: Our record against the top 6 this season
Post by: MJG on February 22, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
I see blackpool are keeping these stats going against spurs. Wonder if they can blow another ht lead.