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Title: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: NorthernWhite on August 29, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
According to German media, us and PSG have offered between 10-12 million Euro's for Papiss Cisse and Rubin Kazan have offered 15 million. Cisse has ruled out moving to Rubin Kazan.

I would love this to come off, he'll be a hit in the Premier League I'm sure.

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Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2011, 04:45:16 PM
Wow, great news! Let's hope for Premier League  :HD:
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: zzamora on August 29, 2011, 04:56:17 PM
YES PLEASEE
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: The King on August 29, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Cisse and Elia? How bloody awesome would that be. Then again, we don't have that money so we'll get Jerome.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: LukeJennings on August 29, 2011, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: The King on August 29, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Cisse and Elia? How bloody awesome would that be. Then again, we don't have that money so we'll get Jerome.

I could see us getting these two and it would be amazing, but loose the likes of baird -.- who is essential for europa
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: HatterDon on August 29, 2011, 07:46:28 PM
I'd love us to get that Cisse guy. FFC will be the happiest he's been since he put Charlie Adam on his fantasy squad last season.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: LukeJennings on August 30, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
Sunderland are making a club-record £14m bid for Freiburg striker Papiss Demba Cisse

Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: TonyGilroy on August 30, 2011, 08:48:04 AM

The great thing about this stage of the transfer window is that clubs have a stark choice. Pay what it costs to get option 1 or go lower down the list to get the player you can afford.

If we want Cisse we'll have to pay the price - we can't afford to end up with no one.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: LukeJennings on August 30, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
Sunderland are making a club-record £14m bid for Freiburg striker Papiss Demba Cisse

Uh-oh.

I reckon this is just paper talk. Ellis Short has publicly demanded results from Quinn and Bruce after the investment he's put in this summer and last, and they've already spent 8mil (rising to 12mil) on a striker, Connor Wickham, this window.

I believe Bruce would have to sell before any more are bought, and there's no rumours about any of Sunderland's players leaving.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: LukeJennings on August 30, 2011, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: LukeJennings on August 30, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
Sunderland are making a club-record £14m bid for Freiburg striker Papiss Demba Cisse

Uh-oh.

I reckon this is just paper talk. Ellis Short has publicly demanded results from Quinn and Bruce after the investment he's put in over this summer and last, and they've already spent 8mil (rising to 12mil) on Connor Wickham in this window.

Hm yeah you could have a point there, we really need a signing like this!
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:04:04 AM
According to sources on Twitter, Papiss is in England today having talks with Fulham and Stoke.

The veracity if the source is called into doubt when it then goes on to say that Stoke are favourites.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:04:04 AM
According to sources on Twitter, Papiss is in England today having talks with Fulham and Stoke.

The veracity if the source is called into doubt when it then goes on to say that Stoke are favourites.

I'd say if it's down to a two horse race between us and Stoke then it's the respective managers that are going to make or break the deal.

Stoke have already called time on two deals (Cole and someone else whose name eludes me) because whilst Pulis has stated the money is there for transfers they are unwilling to break their wage structure and give in to players demands (sound familiar?).

Therefore the clubs are very similar (except for style of football), similar ground size, similar wage structure, both in the Europa League groups stage. Unless Cisse does some serious homework on both clubs then it really could come down to who impresses him the most, Jol or Pulis.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: TonyGilroy on August 30, 2011, 09:20:32 AM


Where to live? London or Stoke?

Tough one.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:04:04 AM
According to sources on Twitter, Papiss is in England today having talks with Fulham and Stoke.

The veracity if the source is called into doubt when it then goes on to say that Stoke are favourites.

I'd say if it's down to a two horse race between us and Stoke then it's the respective managers that are going to make or break the deal.

Stoke have already called time on two deals (Cole and someone else whose name eludes me) because whilst Pulis has stated the money is there for transfers they are unwilling to break their wage structure and give in to players demands (sound familiar?).

Therefore the clubs are very similar (except for style of football), similar ground size, similar wage structure, both in the Europa League groups stage. Unless Cisse does some serious homework on both clubs then it really could come down to who impresses him the most, Jol or Pulis.

You would hope that a man who has managed HSV, Ajax and Spurs would impress Cisse more than a man who has managed Gillingham.

Time for Mo to pull out all the stops and give Cisse a tour of London via Helicopter
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: BalDrick on August 30, 2011, 09:22:52 AM
'If we want Cisse we'll have to pay the price - we can't afford to end up with no one.'

So true.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:22:11 AM
You would hope that a man who has managed HSV, Ajax and Spurs would impress Cisse more than a man who has managed Gillingham.

Time for Mo to pull out all the stops and give Cisse a tour of London via Helicopter

Indeed! That's why, if this rumour is to be believed, my money is on Jol every time.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:27:00 AM
I don't think I could describe the devastation that I would feel if Stoke pipped us to Cisse.

I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

Perhaps there isn't much substance to their link with Cisse?
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

Perhaps there isn't much substance to their link with Cisse?

Or maybe they have been priced out the market by Cisse?
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: LukeJennings on August 30, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

Perhaps there isn't much substance to their link with Cisse?

Or maybe they have been priced out the market by Cisse?

We should go for Cisse, But bloody hell that would be a good loan move for stoke!
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: Luke on August 30, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
'If we want Cisse we'll have to pay the price - we can't afford to end up with no one.'

Totally agree, this is the price we have to pay to move forwards as a club.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: elgreenio on August 30, 2011, 10:19:19 AM
Could just go for Lukaku if we dont fancy Cisse  :59:
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: rhyspabsolom on August 30, 2011, 10:25:28 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

Perhaps there isn't much substance to their link with Cisse?

Quote from: @Stevo_footballThought Lukaku said no loan as part of deal?
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: BalDrick on August 30, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

Perhaps there isn't much substance to their link with Cisse?

Or they have a Plan B?

What happened to Crouch, personally rate him?
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: Blingo on August 30, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
Put the money down and buy Cisse, the boy is TOP CLASS and we would more than get our money back further down the line.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: Yarden on August 30, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
If we get Cisse I will Celebrate untill sunday! Whould really be amazing and should solve all our problems up front.
Him and Zamora up front, glad I`m not going to be the CB trying to stop that :011:
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
According to Twitter:

Freiburg confirm four clubs have now bid for striker Papiss Demba Cisse. All rejected. Club still holding out for £13m #ffc #nufc #rubin

Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: MJG on August 30, 2011, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
According to Twitter:

Freiburg confirm four clubs have now bid for striker Papiss Demba Cisse. All rejected. Club still holding out for £13m #ffc #nufc #rubin


just pay it and move on Fulham ffs
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
According to Twitter:

Freiburg confirm four clubs have now bid for striker Papiss Demba Cisse. All rejected. Club still holding out for £13m #ffc #nufc #rubin

Doesn't mean anything really.

Knowing how we do business, and the size of our club, with the mooted transfer fee it wouldn't surprise me if any bid we've made has been with the condition it must not be made public.

We've never actually been mentioned by Freiburg, only the press.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Sky Sports sources understand Stoke City are in talks with Chelsea over a potential loan move for Romelu Lukaku.

The Lukaku deal has fallen foul of a Premier League rule stating a player cannot be loaned to another top flight club in the same window in which he signed for the parent club.

Stoke are now apparently in for Bendtner.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: TonyGilroy on August 30, 2011, 02:50:47 PM

For Stoke rather than us to get Bendtner would seriously piss me off.

Unless, of course, we get someone better.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Bendtner has scored 22 goals in 98 appearances for arguably one of the best attacking teams in the Premier League.

Hardly outstanding given the team he had around him, and not surprising he fell down the pecking order. It speaks volumes that Wenger puts Gervinho, Chamakh, Coquelin and Frimpong ahead of him.

I'd feel nothing if he went to Stoke.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Bendtner has scored 22 goals in 98 appearances for arguably one of the best attacking teams in the Premier League.

Hardly outstanding given the team he had around him, and not surprising he fell down the pecking order. It speaks volumes that Wenger puts Gervinho, Chamakh, Coquelin and Frimpong ahead of him.

I'd feel nothing if he went to Stoke.

You'd feel nothing until he scored against us and Stoke relegate us to the Championship
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
Any player we've been linked with who signs for another Premier League club will score against us. We are Fulham remember, that's the sort of thing that regularly happens to us. New signing gets their maiden goal, those going through a dry spell break their duct; it's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Bendtner has scored 22 goals in 98 appearances for arguably one of the best attacking teams in the Premier League.

Hardly outstanding given the team he had around him, and not surprising he fell down the pecking order. It speaks volumes that Wenger puts Gervinho, Chamakh, Coquelin and Frimpong ahead of him.

I'd feel nothing if he went to Stoke.

1. he hardly played the 90 minutes, and had the odd five minute cameo ON THE WINGS!

2. Gervinho is a completely different player. Chamakh is a classy centre forward. Coquelin and Frimpong are defensive midfielders. Hardly Bendtner's position.... :dead horse:
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: MJG on August 30, 2011, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
Any player we've been linked with who signs for another Premier League club will score against us. We are Fulham remember, that's the sort of thing that regularly happens to us. New signing gets their maiden goal, those going through a dry spell break their duct; it's just the way it is.
i'm putting my house on Torres to score a hatrick against us if he's still not producing.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Coquelin and Frimpong are defensive midfielders. Hardly Bendtner's position.... :dead horse:

No, but it means he chose to play five across the middle rather than two upfront. If Bendtner were as class as he'd have you believe he'd have played the last two games when they were short on strikers.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Coquelin and Frimpong are defensive midfielders. Hardly Bendtner's position.... :dead horse:

No, but it means he chose to play five across the middle rather than two upfront. If Bendtner were as class as he'd have you believe he'd have played the last two games when they were short on strikers.

Arsenal with a 4-4-2 formation? ahahaha.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 03:21:54 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Coquelin and Frimpong are defensive midfielders. Hardly Bendtner's position.... :dead horse:

No, but it means he chose to play five across the middle rather than two upfront. If Bendtner were as class as he'd have you believe he'd have played the last two games when they were short on strikers.

Not playing two up front does not mean that the team is not attacking.

Wenger is not a huge fan of 4-4-2 and has always preferred a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation with one central striker. Robin Van Persie usually takes this role and Bentdner is usually pushed out of position out wide.
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: elgreenio on August 30, 2011, 03:29:17 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2011, 03:21:54 PM
Wenger is not a huge fan of 4-4-2 and has always preferred a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation with one central striker. Robin Van Persie usually takes this role and Bentdner is usually pushed out of position out wide.

it's not that he isnt a huge fan (Arsenal always used to play 4-4-2), its more the case of him not having the players for it. Song/Wilshere/Rosicky/Ramsey don't scream presence, where Vieira/Gilberto/Petit were more than capable in a central midfield 2.

But yes Bendtner has been used mainly as a winger, and when has played centrally how often do you see Arsenal whip the ball in the box from the touchline to their striker, not so much.


Is Cisse similar to Bendtner or are we just speculating on strikers we've been linked with?
Title: Re: Papiss Cisse update
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2011, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on August 30, 2011, 03:29:17 PM
Is Cisse similar to Bendtner or are we just speculating on strikers we've been linked with?

I don't believe they are necessarily like for like, so it's more speculating who we've been linked with.