Apparantly so????
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on March 11, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Apparantly so????
No, that was another SLW text to Ska who then sent out a mass one which got out of control as usual. A couple of women them two seriously. If it came from that plonker SLW you know damn well it was over exagerated by about 200 times. It was more than likely him being on the source all day, fogetting his glasses seeing double and then reporting 100 Fulham fans all fighting with it other when really it was one bloke bending down to pick up his program.
Quote from: Admin on March 11, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on March 11, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Apparantly so????
No, that was another SLW text to Ska who then sent out a mass one which got out of control as usual. A couple of women them two seriously. If it came from that plonker SLW you know damn well it was over exagerated by about 200 times. It was more than likely him being on the source all day, fogetting his glasses seeing double and then reporting 100 Fulham fans all fighting with it other when really it was one bloke bending down to pick up his program.
Wouldn't that need to be
50 blokes bending down to pick up the programme..?
Quote from: ron on March 11, 2010, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: Admin on March 11, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on March 11, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Apparantly so????
No, that was another SLW text to Ska who then sent out a mass one which got out of control as usual. A couple of women them two seriously. If it came from that plonker SLW you know damn well it was over exagerated by about 200 times. It was more than likely him being on the source all day, fogetting his glasses seeing double and then reporting 100 Fulham fans all fighting with it other when really it was one bloke bending down to pick up his program.
No
Wouldn't that need to be 50 blokes bending down to pick up the programme..?
If it kicks off at the Cottage next week, let's just quickly put them in military uniform and they'll scarper . :005:
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on March 11, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Apparantly so????
Admin didnt even watch the game and just sent negative text all night.. some fan!
I blame the Riverside Rugrats. Those people can turn seriously nasty once they've been at the Stones special one wine and the mobility coach turns up late!
there were a couple of idiots having a go at each other, the problem was that as they pushed and shoved it sent other people down the stand. More than one ended up several flights of seats down, head first, it was like skittles at one point! having 14 odd stone of supprised Fulham fan coming at you head first from 5 rows up wasn't amusing.
The two who started it were caught on CTV, one of them has been identified, a season ticket holder, and will be 'dealt' with by the club.
If he gets away with less than a life time ban he's going to be lucky
Scott for someone that didn't even watch the game mate these are pretty strong words. For what it is worth, seeing a load of Fulham fans bundling into each other with more rushing up from the bottom to get involved is not a good look. Yesterday was a good day and most people behaved really well, but there were a couple of right a**eholes out there (as you'd probably expect).
It certainly wasn't handbags and I got caught up in a bit of in on the stairwell. While it might not have been World War 1, it was still an ugly scene which made us look like Stoke fans.
I've never understood why the feck you would be interested in fighting with your own fellow supporters! Ridiculous!
There are a couple of guys on the old Offal that would take a poke :014: at their own mothers if she piped up out of turn... what can you do the idiots surround us all we can do is hold to our own sense of decency (such as it is). :dft012:
It was an utter disgrace - I dont think I've felt as embarrased as a Fulham fan, ever.
The trouble was that there were 4-5 utter morons who were not willing to let their various arguments go, so there was a lot of pushing and squaring up to each other which meant other people were falling down the steep terracing and people were getting hurt. So it started as a few drunks out of order and just got out of hand to the point where it became close to a pitched battle.
From my point of view I saw the same few troublemakers I saw in Rome also keeping it going. I've grown to hate these particular individuals, and no, hate is not to strong a word for it.
Certainly it wasnt just a case of handbags and it was really getting out of hand.
The stewards and police just watched from the front and did next to nothing, yet I saw one old boy who'd been caught up in it looking in a very bad way and needing help - which wasn't coming.
I had planned to write a report on a disappointing result but a great day in Torino, but to be honest the whole thing has sickened me to the point of maybe giving up altogether. That just wasn't the Fulham I love last night and no it wasn't just a few. We've sadly attracted a growing group of drunken trouble makers and anyone who stands up to them gets pilloried.
Depressing
NJ
We've always had a few. My worst experience was many years ago when we were playing Leicester at home in a game where promotion was a possibility. Walking to the Cottage with my two then young sons we got caught up in a running knife fight between several Fulham "supporters" and a few equally loathsome yobs from Leicester. Only a very small minority then, and no doubt a similarly small minority now, but sadly we can't assume we don't have a few bits of trash in toe.
Such a shame....
One clear difference today is that away supporters HAVE to be in a small seperated area.
In the past you had large terraces or no questions asked if you wanted to sit or stand in an enclosure. I never stood in the crowd behind the goal because I preferred the side on view and less "committed" company. My choice but it meant that I could avoid potential trouble.
These days I'm stuck with the good bad and ugly of our away supporters (on the rare occasion I go) together with stewards who treat me like scum.
So I mostly give away games a miss.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2010, 02:42:38 PM
One clear difference today is that away supporters HAVE to be in a small seperated area.
In the past you had large terraces or no questions asked if you wanted to sit or stand in an enclosure. I never stood in the crowd behind the goal because I preferred the side on view and less "committed" company. My choice but it meant that I could avoid potential trouble.
These days I'm stuck with the good bad and ugly of our away supporters (on the rare occasion I go) together with stewards who treat me like scum.
So I mostly give away games a miss.
At home games I sit with a good bunch in H7 or with my mates who are a good giggle in H3,I have a choice,if I go to away games there is more chance of sitting next to a numpty and I can't be bothered with the hassle, I don't have a choice and thats what keeps me away,it would me getting a ban for slapping an idiot who is beating somebody else up not the person who deserves it,and none of this would happen if stewarding was up to a high standard,not just some kid they get in for weekend work
Quote from: SouthLondonWhite on March 12, 2010, 11:04:19 AM
Scott for someone that didn't even watch the game mate these are pretty strong words. For what it is worth, seeing a load of Fulham fans bundling into each other with more rushing up from the bottom to get involved is not a good look. Yesterday was a good day and most people behaved really well, but there were a couple of right a**eholes out there (as you'd probably expect).
It certainly wasn't handbags and I got caught up in a bit of in on the stairwell. While it might not have been World War 1, it was still an ugly scene which made us look like Stoke fans.
Come on Jay, you know me it was a bit of banter at the time but if it did kick off out their between our own fans like you say them I'm speachless.
I don't agree with it, don't tolerate it, I would never, ever want to see any of my close friends caught up in it either. So if you was, then I appologize for that at least...
By the way, I was watching the game last night, I was just winding bumbder up who has now decided to jump on the Europa League gravy boat after being Mr. negative himself by saying I was watching Master Chef instead.
Whilst we are on the subject, any familliar faces that you recognize from around the Cottage that were starting the trouble? I'd love to know who they were. Young, middle aged old etc?
Quote from: Admin on March 12, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: SouthLondonWhite on March 12, 2010, 11:04:19 AM
Scott for someone that didn't even watch the game mate these are pretty strong words. For what it is worth, seeing a load of Fulham fans bundling into each other with more rushing up from the bottom to get involved is not a good look. Yesterday was a good day and most people behaved really well, but there were a couple of right a**eholes out there (as you'd probably expect).
It certainly wasn't handbags and I got caught up in a bit of in on the stairwell. While it might not have been World War 1, it was still an ugly scene which made us look like Stoke fans.
Come on Jay, you know me it was a bit of banter at the time but if it did kick off out their between our own fans like you say them I'm speachless.
I don't agree with it, don't tolerate it, I would never, ever want to see any of my close friends caught up in it either. So if you was, then I appologize for that at least...
By the way, I was watching the game last night, I was just winding bumbder up who has now decided to jump on the Europa League gravy boat after being Mr. negative himself by saying I was watching Master Chef instead.
Whilst we are on the subject, any familliar faces that you recognize from around the Cottage that were starting the trouble? I'd love to know who they were. Young, middle aged old etc?
most of them were in their mid twenties
Not very smart thing to do if you want to see Fulham in Europe again, or Fulham at all for that matter.
Problem is, with us doing good in the fair play league and a shot at getting back into Europe, this nonsense will not help, is stupid, selfish, hurts the club, and most importantly ruins the experience for proper Fulham fans and puts their health at risk on top.
We can do without fans like this.
Sadly true. Just got off plane at Gatwick. Quite nasty and took a shine off the trip. Bit knackered and despondent but will try and write a report over the weekend.
the trouble started just before Juve scored their second and was still going on after we scored!
at one point most, most around me anyway, were singing to those causing the rumpus that they should go and support Chelsea!, I'm trying to think of something that would be more of an insult to a Fulham fan?
it shows how strongly the vast majority (over 99%) of us felt about it.
Quote from: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on March 12, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2010, 02:42:38 PM
One clear difference today is that away supporters HAVE to be in a small seperated area.
In the past you had large terraces or no questions asked if you wanted to sit or stand in an enclosure. I never stood in the crowd behind the goal because I preferred the side on view and less "committed" company. My choice but it meant that I could avoid potential trouble.
These days I'm stuck with the good bad and ugly of our away supporters (on the rare occasion I go) together with stewards who treat me like scum.
So I mostly give away games a miss.
I agree totally Sid, I have had the same experience at away games, couple of chelsea rejects screaming c**t at our players every 5 minutes, when I said to calm it I got "what are you a steward or sumfink?" I go with my missus and I may be old fashioned but I don't want that and nor does she, she used to work for the club and very rarely missed any games for 30plus years,still a S?T holder. but not away games now, only the odd one or two, we really have attracted some plebs!
At home games I sit with a good bunch in H7 or with my mates who are a good giggle in H3,I have a choice,if I go to away games there is more chance of sitting next to a numpty and I can't be bothered with the hassle, I don't have a choice and thats what keeps me away,it would me getting a ban for slapping an idiot who is beating somebody else up not the person who deserves it,and none of this would happen if stewarding was up to a high standard,not just some kid they get in for weekend work
Sadly the worst think was when women got caught up in it, the lovely Chez got caught up in it and to SLW credit, when and saved her from a potential horrible experience, trouble was Fulham fans were drinking all day and some couldnt handle the drink, although thats no excuse, so well done SLW, im sure youre a hero in Chezs eyes now, did take the polish of a good trip though
Sounds like a truly horrible experience. I have read elsewhere that these exploits were filmed and Fulham know who the instigators are. If that is the case, do you think that the Club should name and shame them?
Quote from: SouthfieldWhite on March 12, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Sadly the worst think was when women got caught up in it, the lovely Chez got caught up in it and to SLW credit, when and saved her from a potential horrible experience, trouble was Fulham fans were drinking all day and some couldnt handle the drink, although thats no excuse, so well done SLW, im sure youre a hero in Chezs eyes now, did take the polish of a good trip though
Yeah thats pretty much what i heard Southfield.. Well done SLW... picked a good time to grow some Bo%%ox!! ha ha Nah well done mate x
i hope they can identify the troublemakers and ban 'em for good!
Quote from: mrska on March 12, 2010, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: SouthfieldWhite on March 12, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Sadly the worst think was when women got caught up in it, the lovely Chez got caught up in it and to SLW credit, when and saved her from a potential horrible experience, trouble was Fulham fans were drinking all day and some couldnt handle the drink, although thats no excuse, so well done SLW, im sure youre a hero in Chezs eyes now, did take the polish of a good trip though
Yeah thats pretty much what i heard Southfield.. Well done SLW... picked a good time to grow some Bo%%ox!! ha ha Nah well done mate x
Chez was pi*sed up and looked like she was going to smash them all over the gaff.
Quote from: Admin on March 12, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: SouthLondonWhite on March 12, 2010, 11:04:19 AM
Scott for someone that didn't even watch the game mate these are pretty strong words. For what it is worth, seeing a load of Fulham fans bundling into each other with more rushing up from the bottom to get involved is not a good look. Yesterday was a good day and most people behaved really well, but there were a couple of right a**eholes out there (as you'd probably expect).
It certainly wasn't handbags and I got caught up in a bit of in on the stairwell. While it might not have been World War 1, it was still an ugly scene which made us look like Stoke fans.
Come on Jay, you know me it was a bit of banter at the time but if it did kick off out their between our own fans like you say them I'm speachless.
I don't agree with it, don't tolerate it, I would never, ever want to see any of my close friends caught up in it either. So if you was, then I appologize for that at least...
By the way, I was watching the game last night, I was just winding bumbder up who has now decided to jump on the Europa League gravy boat after being Mr. negative himself by saying I was watching Master Chef instead.
Whilst we are on the subject, any familliar faces that you recognize from around the Cottage that were starting the trouble? I'd love to know who they were. Young, middle aged old etc?
No worries mate.
No I didn't recognise anyone, although it definately wasn't any of the Yoof so I am glad to see that they havn't been mentioned by anyone.
what the f*ck were the stewards doing during all this?
Quote from: Lork on March 13, 2010, 12:03:45 AM
what the f*ck were the stewards doing during all this?
do you mean all 3 of them? they eventually sorted it out, however they go a lot of stick/abuse while trying!
Quote from: bigalffc on March 12, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
i hope they can identify the troublemakers and ban 'em for good!
We've got a good record on this, at least. Remember the nonsense v QPR at the Cottage about twelve years ago? Fifty of theirs and fifty of "ours", along with a dozen or so of Chelsea mates, arranged for a fight in the Enclosure which kicked off as soon as the game started. The ref quickly switched his linos to opposite sides to avoid the trouble. I watched so called FFC fans climb on top of true supporters in their haste to get out of the seats and join the fun.
Our fifty got lifetime bans, despite lots of bleating that they were "only protecting their own" (strange way to protect somebody by stepping on their head, but there you go), QPR claimed they had insufficient evidence to do anything to their thugs, so the following season when they came to the Cottage we hit them with stringent restrictions (season-ticket holders only, name printed on ticket, stewards asking for tickets at random, if you lose your ticket you are out, etc), laughed at their bleating that this was in some way unfair (you let thugs flourish, it is your problem) and only a few thousand of theirs were able to attend.
Since then we have had few problems whilst QPR have been in the news occasionally for more thuggery, for one example after a pre-season friendly against Chelsea.
So yes, as long as we can identify the culprits, ban them and ignore thair "but we're Fulham through and through" nonsense. Not my Fulham.
Quote from: Rupert on March 13, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: bigalffc on March 12, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
i hope they can identify the troublemakers and ban 'em for good!
We've got a good record on this, at least. Remember the nonsense v QPR at the Cottage about twelve years ago? Fifty of theirs and fifty of "ours", along with a dozen or so of the dark side mates, arranged for a fight in the Enclosure which kicked off as soon as the game started. The ref quickly switched his linos to opposite sides to avoid the trouble. I watched so called FFC fans climb on top of true supporters in their haste to get out of the seats and join the fun.
Our fifty got lifetime bans, despite lots of bleating that they were "only protecting their own" (strange way to protect somebody by stepping on their head, but there you go), QPR claimed they had insufficient evidence to do anything to their thugs, so the following season when they came to the Cottage we hit them with stringent restrictions (season-ticket holders only, name printed on ticket, stewards asking for tickets at random, if you lose your ticket you are out, etc), laughed at their bleating that this was in some way unfair (you let thugs flourish, it is your problem) and only a few thousand of theirs were able to attend.
Since then we have had few problems whilst QPR have been in the news occasionally for more thuggery, for one example after a pre-season friendly against the dark side.
So yes, as long as we can identify the culprits, ban them and ignore thair "but we're Fulham through and through" nonsense. Not my Fulham.
:022:
Such a shame that so many fans had their entire trip ruined by these thugs
I urge all fans to ignore these idiots, I can assure you they never attend away games usually and were just brought shame to us fans, our club and indeed our nation with their actions
It was ignoring them at away games over the lasy couple of season, at away games that brought us to this day..........
