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Title: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Frankie-Peter Taylor on May 13, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
With a respectable top ten finish for Martin Jols team, it seems set that the main transfer rumours will be with regards to possible exits to Clint Dempsey and Moussa Dembele. Am I being really optimistic by honestly thinking that they will both be playing their football at Craven Cottage this year? I know our transfer rumours with players coming in suggests that Martin Jol is playing for exits, but obviously these are just rumours and I really want to see our club pull out the stops to keep these to highly talented footballers. I've posted on here before about Dembele and Dempsey and why they shouldn't go and why they wouldn't go. I really hope they see sense in that they are actually part of something special and they are both key players in a team with fans that love them. We've seen with Liverpool that they love to jump on the backs of one poor performance, and actually squad wise, I think we might just be better. Also, with Arsenal (to be fair they've mainly been linked with Dempsey), Dempsey would be second fiddle to van Persie up front, and also somewhere behind the imminent arrival of Podolski, and other wingers Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Gervinho out wide. They only thing I can see happening is Dembele to Manchester United because they are desperate for a classy central midfielder, but I feel £12m is an injustice and I hope Martin Jol and Mohamed Al Fayed do too.

Another thing we can also expect is us being linked with players from the Eredivise, of Dutch decent or players that Martin Jol has previously managed. It will be an interesting summer for little old Fulham to see to what extent Martin Jol goes to in an aim to lower the average age of the squad, could it mean exits for players like Damien Duff, Dickson Etuhu, Bjorn Helge Riise, Steve Sidwell and Andy Johnson? There is a hell of a lot of people that need to come in to replace the hefty amount of squad players we have left. Also the starting eleven could do with some tweaking with a new right back, centre back, winger and striker needed. Kelly's had a good season but we could well do with a better option there. Aaron Hughes is getting on a bit and it's clear to see that Philippe Senderos has lost his place in Martin Jols squad. I do expect that Martin Jol does see this a problem and will probably sign his own partner for Brede Hangeland, one comfortable in possession as well. A central midfielder will probably be neccesary at some point with possible exits for Sidwell and Etuhu. A winger to replace Damien Duff and possibly Dempsey as well, before Ruiz got injured, it seemed that he had been moved behind the striker so perhaps a younger version of Duff will be coming to Craven Cottage. Lastly, we could well do with a top class striker to give the Pog a battle, NOT to play up with him. A fight for the same position can bring out the best out of each player, I know this is a different class but look at Real Madrid, Jose has used both Benzema and Higuian and the have both scored barrells to try and get the starting berth, this could work for Fulham FC.

A full pre-season with the same manager as the season before seems like it was ages ago, hopefully the consistency can help us get a better start in the league and crack on from August, it's been a good season and hopefully things can get better.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Avoiding relegation. Still.

I'll hope for Top10 finished though. Doubt we can achieve more than that.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: fulhamthroughandthrough on May 13, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Going to say it now, QPR will finish above us next season and we will only take 1 point off them. We will finish 14th
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: mangoputney on May 13, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
13th n season long of gloating hahahahas :$
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: YankeeJim on May 13, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamthroughandthrough on May 13, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Going to say it now, QPR will finish above us next season and we will only take 1 point off them. We will finish 14th

Go look in the mirror and repeat after me:

I WILL NOT BE FULHAMISH!
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Avoiding relegation. Still.

I'll hope for Top10 finished though. Doubt we can achieve more than that.

Quote from: mangoputney on May 13, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
13th n season long of gloating hahahahas :$

Quote from: fulhamthroughandthrough on May 13, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Going to say it now, QPR will finish above us next season and we will only take 1 point off them. We will finish 14th


We will have our best season ever next season. Remember my words because I am coming back to haunt you this time next year. And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Yes. But I'm not in dreamland.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: RidgeRider on May 13, 2012, 10:47:19 PM
Lets see what happens in the transfer window. Too early to suggest where we will end up. I'm always optimistic so I think Jol will continue to improve the squad and we will compete for 6th or 7th next season.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Jambo on May 13, 2012, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on May 13, 2012, 10:47:19 PM
Lets see what happens in the transfer window. Too early to suggest where we will end up. I'm always optimistic so I think Jol will continue to improve the squad and we will compete for 6th or 7th next season.

Agreed.  To early to say until we see who comes and probably more importantly who goes.  Would like to think we are established enough to expect a comfortable mid table to top 10 finish
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Yes. But I'm not in dreamland.

You're not in the real world either. We have just equalled our best ever points tally and never really got going until the second half of the season. I do not see your logic in saying that we will be looking to avoid relegation!! We are a decent side and with a few signings during the summer window, there is no reason as to why we should not improve again. Perhaps if you dreamt a little more you would see that we are going in the right direction, instead of seeing us as a team that is struggling to survive.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Mr Fulham on May 14, 2012, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Yes. But I'm not in dreamland.

You're not in the real world either. We have just equalled our best ever points tally and never really got going until the second half of the season. I do not see your logic in saying that we will be looking to avoid relegation!! We are a decent side and with a few signings during the summer window, there is no reason as to why we should not improve again. Perhaps if you dreamt a little more you would see that we are going in the right direction, instead of seeing us as a team that is struggling to survive.
Avoiding relegation ALWAYS has to be our main target. We shouldn't forget where we are coming from and who we are. Remember West Ham. Remember Pompey.

If Dempsey and/or Dembele leave, it will be difficult to replace them. We will most likely struggle for goals if Dempsey leaves.

Without a new stadium, I can't see us going higher than Top8/Top9. So I'm expecting Fulham to avoid relegation and hope for a top10 finish. But I think we're as good as we can get at the moment. Can't see us achieving bigger things without significant investment into the club' infrastructure. I don't want us to leave the Cottage, but we'd have to if we want to break into the Top7.

If the Dems leave, I'm also not that sure that Jol will stay - same situation with Hamburg a few years ago. Very good debut season, then the club sold their main assets, notably Kompany and van der Vaart. Jol left because of this.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: valdeingruo on May 14, 2012, 12:17:07 AM
You arent a real supporter unless you are hopelesly optomistic, chuck out the previous seasons results and expect to win the league! Fulham for the trebble. COME ON YOU WHITES. scarf yee-haw! :goalski: Belgique starsnstripes 000en.gif 1499 1491 :dead horse: 093.gif 079.gif
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: fulhamthroughandthrough on May 14, 2012, 12:21:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 14, 2012, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Yes. But I'm not in dreamland.

You're not in the real world either. We have just equalled our best ever points tally and never really got going until the second half of the season. I do not see your logic in saying that we will be looking to avoid relegation!! We are a decent side and with a few signings during the summer window, there is no reason as to why we should not improve again. Perhaps if you dreamt a little more you would see that we are going in the right direction, instead of seeing us as a team that is struggling to survive.
Avoiding relegation ALWAYS has to be our main target. We shouldn't forget where we are coming from and who we are. Remember West Ham. Remember Pompey.

If Dempsey and/or Dembele leave, it will be difficult to replace them. We will most likely struggle for goals if Dempsey leaves.

Without a new stadium, I can't see us going higher than Top8/Top9. So I'm expecting Fulham to avoid relegation and hope for a top10 finish. But I think we're as good as we can get at the moment. Can't see us achieving bigger things without significant investment into the club' infrastructure. I don't want us to leave the Cottage, but we'd have to if we want to break into the Top7.

If the Dems leave, I'm also not that sure that Jol will stay - same situation with Hamburg a few years ago. Very good debut season, then the club sold their main assets, notably Kompany and van der Vaart. Jol left because of this.
brilliant post although i think you are being overly negative on Jol leaving. he'll stay if he is given funds to reinvest
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Burt on May 14, 2012, 07:13:20 AM
My hopes and desires for next season:
1. Avoid relegation.
2. A good run in one of the two cup competitions.
3. What the hell - a good cup run in both competitions.
4. A fan base that continue to be grounded, rather than "big club" with the sense of entitlement that goes with it.
5. FOF to rule the message board world.
Title: Re: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: MJG on May 14, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
Three top nine finishes in four years should make me not worry about relegation. But 40 pts is the first priority and we take whatever comes next.
I would like a really good start to the season for a change. 10 pts from first 5 games would be nice and have about 17pts after 10 games is good.
All out attack on the cups no pissing around in them.

I fully expect to be teased with great signings only to be waiting, watching Sky at 5 to12 on Aug 31st and see we sign a third reserve striker from some other club.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 14, 2012, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 13, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 13, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
And you reckon you are Fulham supporters????
Yes. But I'm not in dreamland.

You're not in the real world either. We have just equalled our best ever points tally and never really got going until the second half of the season. I do not see your logic in saying that we will be looking to avoid relegation!! We are a decent side and with a few signings during the summer window, there is no reason as to why we should not improve again. Perhaps if you dreamt a little more you would see that we are going in the right direction, instead of seeing us as a team that is struggling to survive.
Avoiding relegation ALWAYS has to be our main target. We shouldn't forget where we are coming from and who we are. Remember West Ham. Remember Pompey.

If Dempsey and/or Dembele leave, it will be difficult to replace them. We will most likely struggle for goals if Dempsey leaves.

Without a new stadium, I can't see us going higher than Top8/Top9. So I'm expecting Fulham to avoid relegation and hope for a top10 finish. But I think we're as good as we can get at the moment. Can't see us achieving bigger things without significant investment into the club' infrastructure. I don't want us to leave the Cottage, but we'd have to if we want to break into the Top7.

If the Dems leave, I'm also not that sure that Jol will stay - same situation with Hamburg a few years ago. Very good debut season, then the club sold their main assets, notably Kompany and van der Vaart. Jol left because of this.

If you want us to leave the Cottage, you are NOT a Fulham supporter. If the day ever came where we left the Cottage for a new stadium, that would be curtains for me as a Fulham supporter, and before you  ask, I would not and could not EVER support another team.
As far as expectations go, we are a good team and to say that we shouldn't forget where we come from is akin to saying we could very easily slip backwards. What part of we have been in the Prem for 11 years is it that you do not want to understand?
Now lets address the D&D issue. Get this straight in your head. If either or both left, we would survive and go forward we are FULHAM FOOTBALL CLUB and NEVER forget that son. We are bigger than any individual player or players. I don't want them to go but if they want to go then it's a bye bye from Blingo and good luck. We survived 9 years in the prem without Dembele and we can continue to survive if he goes. Same with Dempsey, we would buy replacements of MJ's choosing that would fit into his system.
What people like you seem to fail to understand is that we are NOT the little club down by the river any more. We are a decent sized club that many clubs would love to emulate and it really p1sses me off when we are termed as "a small club" we are not giants in the world of football but we are not minnows either.
I do not comprehend your rational in saying that if Dembele goes that MJ will also go. That is in my eyes a very stupid statement to make. Do you really think that MJ came to us because MD was with us? Pathetic.

And just to reiterate, NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: MasterHaynes on May 14, 2012, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 13, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamthroughandthrough on May 13, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Going to say it now, QPR will finish above us next season and we will only take 1 point off them. We will finish 14th
Nice one!. We have a long summer to get through when all the positives from this season will fade and all the negatives will be amplified and despondency and worry about next season will takeover. I need to write your slogan across the bathroom mirror to give me a shove back to reality, We are a good team, We can achieve something next season and We will beat QPR..twice! We will stay at the Cottage forever

Go look in the mirror and repeat after me:

I WILL NOT BE FULHAMISH!
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on May 14, 2012, 09:31:04 AM
Quote from: Burt on May 14, 2012, 07:13:20 AM
My hopes and desires for next season:
1. Avoid relegation.
2. A good run in one of the two cup competitions.
3. What the hell - a good cup run in both competitions.
4. A fan base that continue to be grounded, rather than "big club" with the sense of entitlement that goes with it.
5. FOF to rule the message board world.

Spot on here, Burt.

I would probably add - continue to play exciting, passing football whilst making the team younger+energetic
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: SJH on May 14, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
Top 10 again, whatever happens transfers in / transfers out. But Jol's line with Dembélé - one more season with me and you'll have your pick of clubs - might work out; he's clearly a player who looks to plan his career.

As for the stuff about QPR - they still have the same ground capacity as this season (and they still have the same training 'facilities' when it comes to convincing players to sign), and they still have a mess: too many signings by too many managers, too much deadwood, too many players on wages way above anything that is sensible for a club their size and way above those players' abilities. That's a noose round their necks when it comes to new signings / wages. And they still have Barton, a self-deluding thug who, unless they can find a way of sacking him or he does something that gets him sent down again, they are stuck with.

Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: cottage cheese on May 14, 2012, 09:43:06 AM
it all depends who we sign..we need two strikers
a replacement for murphy, dembele and demspey (if they go)
players to come into the squad if davies.baird,duff?bhr and aj if they go..we need a squad
a right back and center back i feel.

Thats potentially 6-7 players if you break it down. I just hope we get our signings early to fit them in!
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on May 14, 2012, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: SJH on May 14, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
Top 10 again, whatever happens transfers in / transfers out. But Jol's line with Dembélé - one more season with me and you'll have your pick of clubs - might work out; he's clearly a player who looks to plan his career.

As for the stuff about QPR - they still have the same ground capacity as this season (and they still have the same training 'facilities' when it comes to convincing players to sign), and they still have a mess: too many signings by too many managers, too much deadwood, too many players on wages way above anything that is sensible for a club their size and way above those players' abilities. That's a noose round their necks when it comes to new signings / wages. And they still have Barton, a self-deluding thug who, unless they can find a way of sacking him or he does something that gets him sent down again, they are stuck with.



They have Barton on £60k a week for 3 more years.

hahahahahaha.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Matt Inglis on May 14, 2012, 09:44:05 AM
I don't expect us to finish in the top half next season. I believe Jol will be given a bit more control in this transfer window and won't just be working with what he's been left with. In other words, I can see players like Duff heading for the exit as you mentioned.
The Dems are certain to leave, I'm afraid, which is another pointer to a season of consolidation as whoever we bring in will need to adjust to the league (possibly) but mainly to playing with each other. For this reason I can see a few shabby home defeats, especially against the bigger sides as those are games where you need to be strong as a unit (See:- Wigan).
With regards to my aims, I'd say a solid, mid-table finish achieved without a sniff of a relegation battle; strong replacements for any of our top quality players that leave; a GOOD CUP RUN, how long have we been saying that? Finally, I suppose my biggest aim is just to increase my personal away following, I'm going to try and make a few more trips further north next season as I hope many others do because I believe it is at least partially up to the fans now to improve the away record.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: cebu on May 14, 2012, 11:39:36 AM
1. Keep our best players
2. Get in one or two players - genuine contenders for the 1st team
3. Get the improvements to the Riverside through the approval process
4. Top ten finish with 40 points being reached quicker than we've ever done it before
5. A Wembley final - preferably the FA Cup!
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: mangoputney on May 14, 2012, 12:10:06 PM
Spot on Burt, Blingo surely being Fulhamish indicates being a Fulham supporter??? its called being realistic

great season, enjoyed it home and away, but very dependent on Demps and Pog service

if you was at WHL lane yesterday, was blatantly obvious

season ticket already renewed, have faith in Jol's ability to sign players, would love to retain our top ten status, would love to improve our away form by even 20%, that alone would get us in the 8th - 11th mix
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...

I mean it 110%
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: mangoputney on May 14, 2012, 12:10:06 PM
Spot on Burt, Blingo surely being Fulhamish indicates being a Fulham supporter??? its called being realistic

great season, enjoyed it home and away, but very dependent on Demps and Pog service

if you was at WHL lane yesterday, was blatantly obvious

season ticket already renewed, have faith in Jol's ability to sign players, would love to retain our top ten status, would love to improve our away form by even 20%, that alone would get us in the 8th - 11th mix


We will finish higher than 8th next season just watch.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Vinnieffc on May 14, 2012, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: andersons11 on May 14, 2012, 12:17:07 AM
You arent a real supporter unless you are hopelesly optomistic, chuck out the previous seasons results and expect to win the league! Fulham for the trebble. COME ON YOU WHITES. scarf yee-haw! :goalski: Belgique starsnstripes 000en.gif 1499 1491 :dead horse: 093.gif 079.gif

Mods - as we have 2 x ROI players in the team/squad, and chance of an Irish flag on here ?
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: sipwell on May 14, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
Simples: Champions' League football and three pieces of silverware (not u18 cups and the like). 
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: TonyGilroy on May 14, 2012, 01:43:32 PM
THIS squad with youngsters improving fast could be expected to do better next season than this.

Obviously if we lose players they'll need to be replaced and that will be a major test for Jol but I would expect him to pass that test.

The most interesting thing for me this season is Newcastle demonstrating that a Champions League place is possible for an ordinary club. We're no worse than them in my opinion. Seems to me that the Manchester pair have pulled away from the pack with the clubs that were once their equals falling back towards that pack.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 02:12:12 PM
I just want to see Fulham at Wembley ... surely it's not too much to ask >.<
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...

I mean it 110%

That's dumb.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: The Equalizer on May 14, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...

I mean it 110%

That's dumb.

Not really. Were you around during the Back To The Cottage campaign? Craven Cottage is our home and IS the club. Without it we are nothing. If Fulham ever left the Cottage I would stop following football completely and head off to The Stoop every other saturday.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: TonyGilroy on May 14, 2012, 03:04:48 PM

which is an entirely understandable attitude but may not be universal.

Moving from CC isn't a financially sound option for us so it's not really worth discussing but if we could move into a bigger stadium reasonably nearby I wouldn't oppose it in principle.

Our London location means that unlike clubs like Reading and Southampton it's not an option. I was at the Madjeski for a conference recently though and we're missing out big time by not having other money making possibilities within our stadium. Conferences, restaurants, hotels, shops etc.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Basil on May 14, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Ruiz..a full pre season and a knowledge of the league I expect him to be our star player and he feels like a new signing going into August for me. Sublime skills.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on May 14, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...

I mean it 110%

That's dumb.

Not really. Were you around during the Back To The Cottage campaign? Craven Cottage is our home and IS the club. Without it we are nothing. If Fulham ever left the Cottage I would stop following football completely and head off to The Stoop every other saturday.

It was rather aimed at the notion that you can tell someone that they're not a fan. A Fulham fan that wants the club to be bought out by multi-billionaires and moved to Milton Keynes and changed to a blue strip is still a fan if they want the team to win, surely?

Either way, I'd hate for Fulham to leave the Cottage but sometimes clubs have to do that sort of thing to keep themselves going.
A stadium does not a football team make.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: The Equalizer on May 14, 2012, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on May 14, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
NO REAL FULHAM SUPPORTER WOULD EVER WANT US TO LEAVE THE BEST GROUND IN THE WORLD. Perhaps you would be better off supporting another team.

Just checking if this is like an ironic joke or if you actually mean it...

I mean it 110%

That's dumb.

Not really. Were you around during the Back To The Cottage campaign? Craven Cottage is our home and IS the club. Without it we are nothing. If Fulham ever left the Cottage I would stop following football completely and head off to The Stoop every other saturday.

It was rather aimed at the notion that you can tell someone that they're not a fan. A Fulham fan that wants the club to be bought out by multi-billionaires and moved to Milton Keynes and changed to a blue strip is still a fan if they want the team to win, surely?

Either way, I'd hate for Fulham to leave the Cottage but sometimes clubs have to do that sort of thing to keep themselves going.
A stadium does not a football team make.

Yeah, I agree that it was a poor choice of words from Blingo in that instance. However, I truly believe, as do a VAST amount of Fulham supporters that the stadium and the club are inextricably linked. We can move to a different ground, but we would become an entirely different and unfamiliar entity at that point. Much akin to Wimbledon splitting to become the MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon.

A club called 'Fulham' would continue to exist, but it would not be OUR club or OUR Fulham, and hence what we all know, love and support would simply cease to exist.

Them's the facts as I see them.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: HatterDon on May 14, 2012, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 02:12:12 PM
I just want to see Fulham at Wembley ... surely it's not too much to ask >.<

I'm with you Sir Duke. I want to see Danny lead the boys out at Wembley more than anything else next season.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
For me it is very simple rhys....no CC no Fulham. I have followed Fulham for the best part of 49 years now and I see it very much in the way I have written it above. No one will change that.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: SJH on May 14, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on May 14, 2012, 04:09:54 PMA stadium does not a football team make.

I don't think of Craven Cottage as a stadium - for me it's a football ground. And IS Fulham; the one great continuity, CC represents the uniqueness of Fulham, and for me represents FFC's connection to my youth and my past and the area I grew up in. Fulham wouldn't be Fulham without CC, or not in my view. Just another football club. I can see the arguments against that, realise that other clubs have moved ground, other clubs have prospered and maintained support. Not for me, though.

I'm sure that's not a universal view, but I'd guess it's not unusual among our 'core' support.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 06:53:15 PM
On the stadium thing ... I am not exactly sure where I stand.

Naturally I would not accept Fulham leaving CC to ground share, or become nomads, like when we went to the QPR dump and I would love to stay at Craven Cottage ... but;

What if our support grew in 10 years time to the point we could fill out a 50,000 seat stadium and a decent plot of land became available, perhaps even Bishops Park (not going to happen, used to example purposes) ... would a brand new, 50,000 seater stadium that was also pure Fulham be so very out of the question?

As I said before, I would like to stay at CC ... but I try to keep an open mind over what the future might bring.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 06:53:15 PM
On the stadium thing ... I am not exactly sure where I stand.

Naturally I would not accept Fulham leaving CC to ground share, or become nomads, like when we went to the QPR dump and I would love to stay at Craven Cottage ... but;

What if our support grew in 10 years time to the point we could fill out a 50,000 seat stadium and a decent plot of land became available, perhaps even Bishops Park (not going to happen, used to example purposes) ... would a brand new, 50,000 seater stadium that was also pure Fulham be so very out of the question?

As I said before, I would like to stay at CC ... but I try to keep an open mind over what the future might bring.

For us to have a new stadium we would have to move away from Fulham, so as I see it, it wouldn't be Fulham any more.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 06:53:15 PM
On the stadium thing ... I am not exactly sure where I stand.

Naturally I would not accept Fulham leaving CC to ground share, or become nomads, like when we went to the QPR dump and I would love to stay at Craven Cottage ... but;

What if our support grew in 10 years time to the point we could fill out a 50,000 seat stadium and a decent plot of land became available, perhaps even Bishops Park (not going to happen, used to example purposes) ... would a brand new, 50,000 seater stadium that was also pure Fulham be so very out of the question?

As I said before, I would like to stay at CC ... but I try to keep an open mind over what the future might bring.

For us to have a new stadium we would have to move away from Fulham, so as I see it, it wouldn't be Fulham any more.

But if some land became available in Fulham, what then? (not likely to happen, but just throwing the question out there anyway)?
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 06:53:15 PM
On the stadium thing ... I am not exactly sure where I stand.

Naturally I would not accept Fulham leaving CC to ground share, or become nomads, like when we went to the QPR dump and I would love to stay at Craven Cottage ... but;

What if our support grew in 10 years time to the point we could fill out a 50,000 seat stadium and a decent plot of land became available, perhaps even Bishops Park (not going to happen, used to example purposes) ... would a brand new, 50,000 seater stadium that was also pure Fulham be so very out of the question?

As I said before, I would like to stay at CC ... but I try to keep an open mind over what the future might bring.

For us to have a new stadium we would have to move away from Fulham, so as I see it, it wouldn't be Fulham any more.

But if some land became available in Fulham, what then? (not likely to happen, but just throwing the question out there anyway)?

That will never happen m8.
Title: Re: What to expect from Fulham this summer and next season.
Post by: Rupert on May 14, 2012, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: Blingo on May 14, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on May 14, 2012, 06:53:15 PM
On the stadium thing ... I am not exactly sure where I stand.

Naturally I would not accept Fulham leaving CC to ground share, or become nomads, like when we went to the QPR dump and I would love to stay at Craven Cottage ... but;

What if our support grew in 10 years time to the point we could fill out a 50,000 seat stadium and a decent plot of land became available, perhaps even Bishops Park (not going to happen, used to example purposes) ... would a brand new, 50,000 seater stadium that was also pure Fulham be so very out of the question?

As I said before, I would like to stay at CC ... but I try to keep an open mind over what the future might bring.

For us to have a new stadium we would have to move away from Fulham, so as I see it, it wouldn't be Fulham any more.

But if some land became available in Fulham, what then? (not likely to happen, but just throwing the question out there anyway)?

I'm afraid you are wasting your time, asking that question. I've never had a straight answer to it, and I've been asking it for well over a decade. For some people, if we do not play at the Cottage then we cease to be Fulham, that is their ground state of being, fair enough, it's potentially their loss. I know we lost a few of the old sweats when we moved to the Megaloftusdome for two years, they refused to watch us there as it wasn't really Fulham playing, apparantly, and by the time we went back to the Cottage they had found other pursuits for their weekends. Their loss, big time. They probably watched Juventus, Hamburg and the like on the TV and told their mates that it was their team winning, only they don't go any more.

If we moved from Craven Cottage there would definately be a fall out, many of our current hard core would refuse to go to the new place, they would probably try to start up AFC Fulham, playing in black shorts, white shirts and the Hammersmith and Fulham crest (which might cause some fuss with their younger members who would want to keep the "traditional" black and white shield with the stylised FFC on it  :005:). Whether or not I would be one of that disillusioned group would depend on where we went, and why. Outside London, and called Staines FC? I'm out at that point. Another ground somewhere in the borough and still Fulham FC? Say, a mile up the Fulham Road? I'd almost cerainly still be on board for that (and frankly, Blingo, if you think that means I'm not a Fulham fan then I think you are a buffoon, presumably one of us is right).

The difficult one would be something inbetween those extremes. It would be an interesting time, and no mistake.