I know its all just rumours, and this one a Twitter rumour at that, but could anyone see any logic in a move for Holden?
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yes please
Yes please, as long as his knee decides to stay in its socket.
I could see the sense in it for Fulham but I am not so sure I could see the sense in it for Holden unless he planned on moving back out to the right wing for a year or until Mr. Murphy decides he is finally done. I think he would fit the Murphy role pretty well but with no European football he would certainly not have a nailed down spot for the coming season.
Quote from: BarryP on May 18, 2012, 03:36:16 PM
I could see the sense in it for Fulham but I am not so sure I could see the sense in it for Holden unless he planned on moving back out to the right wing for a year or until Mr. Murphy decides he is finally done. I think he would fit the Murphy role pretty well but with no European football he would certainly not have a nailed down spot for the coming season.
A season that eases him back into a central midfield role might do him good.
Or we continue playing 4-3-3 and he takes Moussa's place.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on May 18, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
A season that eases him back into a central midfield role might do him good.
I wouldn't argue with that at all but Holden always struck me as having a bit of the bulldog in him and getting him to sit on a bench for a seaon might rub him the wrong way. My guess is he will want to be playing to make an impression on Klinsmann for the 2014 World Cup.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on May 18, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
Or we continue playing 4-3-3 and he takes Moussa's place.
I am a big Holden fan but every time I have seen him played forward it hasn't worked well. He seems more of a Murphy than a Dembele to me. Don't get me wrong if he winds up a Fulham man I will be well pleased. I am sure Jol can figure out how to use him. If nothing else he has a terrific free kick.
Yes please. A classy player, and he'll fill our American quota if Dempsey leaves.
I think he's more of a box to box midfielder than a true Murphy replacement (Diarra's more of a Murphy type player IMO). Holden's got a good touch, passes well, but I think his stamina and workrate are his best attributes. I believe he lead the Premier League in successful tackles last year. A better Sidwell, when he's healthy.
I can't see this happening sorry to say.
Yes! A very classy player and a fantastic midfield general IMHO
Stuart Holden and Chong-Yong Lee are the reason that Bolton went down. Stuart Holden is superb, I do see this happening, especially if we're getting rid of Sidwell, Etuhu and probably Dembele too.
I think he'd be a great replacement if Dembele goes and could easily slip in with Murphy and Diarra
How many games has he played this season? I think its only 1, so he's coming off a season missed and would take another 6 months to get up to match fitness I would say.
I saw him in Bolton Reserves against us earler in the season and he was coming back from an injury then and was pretty poor TBH.
Yes. Very classy player. Big fan.
Can't see Bolton selling him since his value is next to nothing at the moment. If he returns to pre-injury form next season and the Wanderers don't bounce back up, then he'll go. Holden wants to pay back the club back for sticking by him through injuries (they extended his contract a couple seasons ago even after the cretin De Jong broke his ankle in a friendly).
If up to full tilt then yes, but he seems like the kind of player who would stick by Bolton as they have stuck by him during his past two knee injuries.
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
If a few of their players had been uninjured, i.e. Holden they wouldn't have got the results they had. However i do like to think we are becoming a club where we don't have to look over the relegated bargain bin.
Quote from: andersons11 on May 18, 2012, 06:28:46 PM
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
If a few of their players had been uninjured, i.e. Holden they wouldn't have got the results they had. However i do like to think we are becoming a club where we don't have to look over the relegated bargain bin.
Don't get me wrong I have no issues with it! We have never signed a player from a team newly relegated except DD.
Would love Holden but if he's got dodgy knees, he won't pass our medical!
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: andersons11 on May 18, 2012, 06:28:46 PM
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
If a few of their players had been uninjured, i.e. Holden they wouldn't have got the results they had. However i do like to think we are becoming a club where we don't have to look over the relegated bargain bin.
Don't get me wrong I have no issues with it! We have never signed a player from a team newly relegated except DD.
I know, if they are quality doesn't matter where they are from, i don't care if they were signed from the lowest level of Czech football or the highest of English, if they can put it in the net then the Cottage is where they should play.
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
Would you not sign the likes of Hoilett and Holden if they were available?
If Dempsey goes, then yes. This club needs to keep their American quota.
Quote from: timmyg on May 18, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
If Dempsey goes, then yes. This club needs to keep their American quota.
Theres a quota now? ;) 086.gif
Quote from: The King on May 18, 2012, 06:46:52 PM
Quote from: Matt Inglis on May 18, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Signing players that have just been relegated isn't really our style though is it?
Would you not sign the likes of Hoilett and Holden if they were available?
I would snap your hand off, I am just pointing out we don't tend to go for these players so we probably won't this time either.
Quote from: andersons11 on May 18, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: timmyg on May 18, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
If Dempsey goes, then yes. This club needs to keep their American quota.
Theres a quota now? ;) 086.gif
It's called "The Eddie Johnson Rule."
Definitely welcome him here. Bit weary of his injury though.
Quote from: nevzter on May 18, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: andersons11 on May 18, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: timmyg on May 18, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
If Dempsey goes, then yes. This club needs to keep their American quota.
Theres a quota now? ;) 086.gif
It's called "The Eddie Johnson Rule."
Clever name
Quote from: Crede15 on May 18, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
I think he's more of a box to box midfielder than a true Murphy replacement (Diarra's more of a Murphy type player IMO). Holden's got a good touch, passes well, but I think his stamina and workrate are his best attributes. I believe he lead the Premier League in successful tackles last year. A better Sidwell, when he's healthy.
Exactly how I view the players. Diarra will probably gradually take over Murphy's role next season (if Danny stays, that is) and we'll need to add some quality in midfield if we lose one of, or the worst case scenario: both, Dem's. A fit Holden certainly fits that bill and if he's got some sort of clause which would allow him to leave for a smallish fee it's worth a try without a doubt.
I personally like having an American in the team
So we finally get the cripple AJ of the books and replace him with anouther one. Why? So many players we could go for, cant see the point in going for a sicknote.
Jonny Evans and Nigel De Jong have hampered Holden's career with reckless, injury-causing tackles. He's already shown his quality in the Prem - fitness is a huge question though. Recently he pledged his allegiance to Bolton, but who knows and Fulham would benefit from a fit Holden in the squad.
COYW
Quote from: andersons11 on May 18, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: timmyg on May 18, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
If Dempsey goes, then yes. This club needs to keep their American quota.
Theres a quota now? ;) 086.gif
Well, DUH! Someone has to score. starsnstripes
no don't need him get somebody else
Quote from: SoCalJoe on May 18, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Can't see Bolton selling him since his value is next to nothing at the moment. If he returns to pre-injury form next season and the Wanderers don't bounce back up, then he'll go. Holden wants to pay back the club back for sticking by him through injuries (they extended his contract a couple seasons ago even after the cretin De Jong broke his ankle in a friendly).
My southern California friend is correct. Holden will want to repay the respect shown to him by Bolton.
And I really don't want any more Yanks at Craven Cottage, thanks.
Quote from: HatterDon on May 20, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: SoCalJoe on May 18, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Can't see Bolton selling him since his value is next to nothing at the moment. If he returns to pre-injury form next season and the Wanderers don't bounce back up, then he'll go. Holden wants to pay back the club back for sticking by him through injuries (they extended his contract a couple seasons ago even after the cretin De Jong broke his ankle in a friendly).
My southern California friend is correct. Holden will want to repay the respect shown to him by Bolton.
And I really don't want any more Yanks at Craven Cottage, thanks.
I want the best players that can be enticed to come to the Cottage in black and white Yanks or not.
The guy had about hlalf a season where he was bgood, apart from that seen very little from him due to injuries, I'm not convinced.
Quote from: HatterDon on May 20, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: SoCalJoe on May 18, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
And I really don't want any more Yanks at Craven Cottage, thanks.
Well Heaven forbid!
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Do you think we're getting rid of Sidwell?? Etuhu I can see going but Sidwell I thought might stay and fight for his place once fully fit!
Quote from: Frankie-Peter Taylor on May 18, 2012, 05:08:27 PM
Stuart Holden and Chong-Yong Lee are the reason that Bolton went down. Stuart Holden is superb, I do see this happening, especially if we're getting rid of Sidwell, Etuhu and probably Dembele too.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on May 20, 2012, 07:14:26 PM
Do you think we're getting rid of Sidwell?? Etuhu I can see going but Sidwell I thought might stay and fight for his place once fully fit!
Quote from: Frankie-Peter Taylor on May 18, 2012, 05:08:27 PM
Stuart Holden and Chong-Yong Lee are the reason that Bolton went down. Stuart Holden is superb, I do see this happening, especially if we're getting rid of Sidwell, Etuhu and probably Dembele too.
Sidwell will stay. Jol all but confirmed this with his lines about Dickson, he said something like "...we've also got Diarra and Sidwell there..."
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 20, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on May 20, 2012, 07:14:26 PM
Do you think we're getting rid of Sidwell?? Etuhu I can see going but Sidwell I thought might stay and fight for his place once fully fit!
Quote from: Frankie-Peter Taylor on May 18, 2012, 05:08:27 PM
Stuart Holden and Chong-Yong Lee are the reason that Bolton went down. Stuart Holden is superb, I do see this happening, especially if we're getting rid of Sidwell, Etuhu and probably Dembele too.
Sidwell will stay. Jol all but confirmed this with his lines about Dickson, he said something like "...we've also got Diarra and Sidwell there..."
I hope Sidwell stays, one of my favourite players, although he can be a bit of a liability with some of his tackles.
Holden was pretty good at Bolton when fit, but if we are going to get back into Europe there are better opportunities.
