Hey guys, as some of you may already know, I've got a little blog. And I want to include some biographical notes on some of Fulham's star performers over the years.
I've included Dennis Turner's wonderful list and have added some other players, who played some rule during the last successful seasons. What I'd like to know is what you think about this list.
Here's the current one:
ARNOLD, John
BACUZZI, Joe
BAIRD, Chris
BARNETT, Gary
BARRETT, Bert
BARRETT, Les
BEASLEY, Pat
BEECHAM, Ernie
BENTLEY, Roy
BLACK, Ian
BLAKE, Mark
BOA MORTE, Luis
BRAZIL, Gary
BREVETT, Rufus
BROWN, Roger
BROWN, Stan
BUSBY, Viv
CALLAGHAN, Fred
CHAMBERLAIN, Tosh
CHAPLIN, Alec
CHARLTON, Ted
CLARK, Lee
CLARKE, Allan
COHEN, George
COLEMAN, Chris
COLLINS, Arthur 'Pat'
CONEY, Dean
CONWAY, Jimmy
COOK, Maurice
DAVIES, Gordon
DAVIES, Simon
DAVIS, Sean
DEMPSEY, Clint
DEMPSEY, John
DUFF, Damien (???)
EARLE, Steve
ECKHARDT, Jeff
FINCH, Jack
FINNAN, Steve
FREEMAN, Harry
FRYER, Jack
GALE, Tony
GERA, Zoltan (???)
GIBBONS, Syd
GOLDIE, Billy
HAMMOND, Jim
HANGELAND, Brede
HAYLES, Barry
HAYNES, Johnny
HERRERA, Robbie
HILL, Jimmy
HOPKINS, Jeff
HOUGHTON, Ray
HUGHES, Aaron
JEZZARD, Bedford
KEEPING, Mike
KEY, Johnny
KONCHESKY, Paul (???)
LACY, John
LANGLEY, Jim
LAWLER, Robin
LEGGAT, Graham
LEWINGTON, Ray
LLOYD, Barry
LOCK, Kevin
LOWE, Eddie
MACEDO, Tony
MALBRANQUE, Steed
MARSHALL, John
MELLOR, Peter
MITCHELL, John
MITTEN, Charlie
MONEY, Richard
MOORE, Bobby
MORGAN, Simon
MULLERY, Alan
MURPHY, Danny
O'CONNELL, Brian 'Pat'
OLIVER, Len
PARKER, Paul
PENN, Frank
PESCHISOLIDO, Paul (???)
PEYTON, Gerry
PIKE, Martin
PRICE, Johnny
QUESTED, Len
REYNOLDS, Arthur
ROBSON, Sir Bobby
ROOKE, Ronnie
ROSS, Harry
SAHA, Louis
SCHWARZER, Mark
SCOTT, Peter
SHARP, Jimmy
SLOUGH, Alan
STANNARD, Jim
STEVENS, Arthur
STRONG, Les
SYMONS, Kit
TAYLOR, Jim
TAYLOR, Maik
THOMAS, Glen
THOMAS, Bob
TOMPKINS, Jim
TOOTILL, Alf
TORRANCE, Jimmy
VAN DER SAR, Edwin
WALKER, Willie
WHITE, Walter 'Wattie'
WILSON, Robert
ZAMORA, Bobby (???)
Would you exclude some of them or include others?
Help appreciated, especially from the likes of Mr Peabody, Mr CorkedHat, Bog and the other more 'experienced' members of this board.
THANKS A LOT!
Always difficult, this sort of thing. In the long run it comes down to personal opinion.
At first glance I would say that 'my' early years are pretty well represented. But, when considering more recent times, I would have thought that John Collins, although he played only about 60 times, was a pretty important player for us at a vital time. In my view Alain Goma has as good claims as many of the centre-backs listed. And I am sure that the omission of a certain German right-back will be considered as little short of heresy in some quarters.
If we take the period 1950- 1975 my preference would be as follows;
Haynes, Leggat, Cohen, Mullery, Rooke, Macedo, Jezzard, Langley, Barrett, Bacuzzi, Quested, Jim Taylor, Bentley, Stevens, Conway, Robson, Mitten, Eddie Lowe, Lawler, Stan Brown, Callaghan
I know I shall be in the minority here because at the time the Fulham crowd used to give him some stick, but I used to love Johnny Key. He was one of the fastest wingers going around and one or two of his goals were sensational.
Of those who did not receiver an international cap, Arthur Stevens was probably the most unfortunate. He played at a time when the media in particular loved Stanley Matthews and whilst old Stan could get out of bed each morning, there would be no cap for Arthur.
Roy Bentley, an England international, came to us from Chelsea as a striker who was said to be way past his best. We converted him into a centre half and as a result there were many who thought he should be capped again even though by this time he was into his thirties.
As characters go, I suppose we should include Tosh Chamberlain, but Tosh was the most unpredictable and erratic footballer I can remember. Some of his shots would take the leather off the ball but alas many of them ended up in Bishops Park. He used to frustrate the hell out of Haynes even though they were close mates.
I must say that I wouldn't have missed these years of following Fulham for the world. They were fabulous.
Can't comment on most the players on that list but Paul Konchesky? Not sure about that one.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 30, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
Can't comment on most the players on that list but Paul Konchesky? Not sure about that one.
Yeah, that's why I put some question marks behind it. I think I won't include him, tbh. Just an idea, played more than 100 matches for Fulham and was part of the Europa League team while putting in some nice performances.
Thanks for the report, Mr CorkedHat. Would've loved to see the team of the 60s in action, especially the Maestro.
Rich Allen did something relevant for The Times a few years ago. Can't immediately spot it on his own site, but it seems to be reproduced with various people's comments at:-
http://cc.fulhamfc.com/forum/topics/the-50-greatest-fulham-players?xg_source=activity (http://cc.fulhamfc.com/forum/topics/the-50-greatest-fulham-players?xg_source=activity)
Why not Sylvain Legwinski? He must of played over 100 games for Fulham and great team player.
...we have something similar on FOF which may help:-
http://www.friendsoffulham.com/players.php (http://www.friendsoffulham.com/players.php)
Hey Corked Hat.... you forgot Reg Stratton in your list. :doh:
take ZAMORA, Bobby off
Quote from: nickmuir on May 30, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
take ZAMORA, Bobby off
no, one of the main heros in which was/is arguably Fulham's best ever era.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 30, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: nickmuir on May 30, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
take ZAMORA, Bobby off
no, one of the main heros in which was/is arguably Fulham's best ever era.
Totally agree.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 30, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: nickmuir on May 30, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
take ZAMORA, Bobby off
no, one of the main heros in which was/is arguably Fulham's best ever era.
Agree, doesn't matter what he's done now or where he's at he was good for the club and his goals were vital to our European run.
How about Nick Cusack? Key in our promotion season which kicked this all off.
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on May 30, 2012, 06:00:16 PM
Hey Corked Hat.... you forgot Reg Stratton in your list. :doh:
You are quite right M. Fox – what was I thinking? :005:
One name who isn't there but should be is Bobby Keetch.
Now Bobby had about as much finesse as a turd in a teacup but in an era where ball players such as McIlroy, Eastham, Giles, Brady, Quixall, Burnside, Jeffrey, Atyeo et al reigned supreme, a team needed a player with a bit of grunt. Instead of standing there admiring their silky skills, Bobby with his flowing golden locks would be up at 'em like an exocet missile.
He was not, however, a dirty player (Michael Brown is a dirty player) but Bobby was robust and hard. Admittedly one or two tackles were ill-timed and we had to fish the recipient out of the Thames, but everyone makes the odd mistake.
Mind you he was a nightmare at away games. He could certainly rev up the local yokels and if they couldn't get to him to murder him, anyone wearing black and white would suffice.
Bobby a collector of antiques was a character in every sense of the word but tragically died at a ridiculously young age.
As caught by someone else, Zamora and Konchesky but no Brian McBride?
Vic Halom anyone?
Leroy Rosenior
How about Maurice '5000' Voltz?
How very sad indeed no Alain Goma, the light on my landing ............
Mr Hat good call ....................Bobby Keetch yay -hay !!! deserves to be in there as the best looking Fulham player ever
Shouldn't Super Mac be in there ???.....................I know he only played a few games for us
Fulham v Blackburn Rovers 1968 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuQ4SyvckVg#)
but he came back as a manager .............................and what a manager he was
Newcastle United v Fulham (February 1983) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL8vCgNYBBw#)
and he did signed this guy
Ray Houghton Top Ten Fulham Goals.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-clhFzQ8mh0#)
Garry Barnett but no Brian McBride. Some mistake surely!
Here are my views
Player of the 40's close between Len Quested, Jim Taylor, Joe Bacuzzi & Ronnie Rooke
Player of the 50's has to be Johnny Haynes, with Beddy Jezzard, Bobby Robson Charlie Mitten & Arthur Stevens as close runners up.
Player of the 60's again Johnny Haynes, with Graham Leggett, Tony Macedo, Alan Mullery, George Cohen, Jimmy Langley, Eddie Lowe Rodney Marsh, Allan Clarke, Bobby Keetch & Roy Bentley.
Player of the 70's Joint Alan Mullery & Bobby Moore, with mentions to George Best, Alan Slough, Peter Mellor, Les Barrett, Jimmy Conway Gerry Peyton oh yes Ivor.
Player of the 80's Gordon Davis, with Close runners up Tony Gale, Roger Brown, Ray Houghton, Gerry Peyton, Kevin Locke & Robert Wilson.
Player of the 90's Simon Morgan along with Nick Cusack, Darren Freeman, Micky Conroy, Robbie Herria, Terry Angus & Mark Blake
Finally the 00's I find this one quite difficult, because we had so many good players but in my opinion the best is oh, this difficult but I have to go for Edwin and close are Louis Saha, John Collins, Miak Taylor, Steed, Luis Boa Morte, Rufus Brevett, Barry Hayles, Brian McBride, Clint Dempsey, Lee Clark & the players that got us to the Europa Final.
This is just my opinion.
Quote from: Peabody on May 31, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
Here are my views
Player of the 90's Simon Morgan along with Nick Cusack, Darren Freeman, Micky Conroy, Robbie Herria, Terry Angus & Mark Blake
Think I'd have to add in Colman and Horsfield
Quote from: BarryP on May 31, 2012, 03:51:27 AM
As caught by someone else, Zamora and Konchesky but no Brian McBride?
totally slipped under my radar, sorry. Wasn't included in Dennis Turner's list and beyond that, I only looked at the Hodgson years. My bad.
Leggy, McBride, possibly Zat Knightmare as well?!
Updated:
ANGUS, Terry
ARNOLD, John
BACUZZI, Joe
BAIRD, Chris
BARNETT, Gary
BARRETT, Bert
BARRETT, Les
BEASLEY, Pat
BEECHAM, Ernie
BENTLEY, Roy
BEST, George
BLACK, Ian
BLAKE, Mark
BOA MORTE, Luis
BRAZIL, Gary
BREVETT, Rufus
BROWN, Roger
BROWN, Stan
BUSBY, Viv
CALLAGHAN, Fred
CHAMBERLAIN, Tosh
CHAPLIN, Alec
CHARLTON, Ted
CLARK, Lee
CLARKE, Allan
COHEN, George
COLEMAN, Chris
COLLINS, Arthur 'Pat'
CONEY, Dean
CONWAY, Jimmy
COOK, Maurice
CUSACK, Nick
DAVIES, Gordon
DAVIES, Simon
DAVIS, Sean
DEMPSEY, Clint
DEMPSEY, John
DUFF, Damien
EARLE, Steve
ECKHARDT, Jeff
FINCH, Jack
FINNAN, Steve
FREEMAN, Harry
FRYER, Jack
GALE, Tony
GERA, Zoltan
GIBBONS, Syd
GOLDIE, Billy
GOMA, Alain
HAMMOND, Jim
HANGELAND, Brede
HAYLES, Barry
HAYNES, Johnny
HERRERA, Robbie
HILL, Jimmy
HOPKINS, Jeff
HOUGHTON, Ray
HUGHES, Aaron
JEZZARD, Bedford
KEEPING, Mike
KEETCH, Bobby
KEY, Johnny
KONCHESKY, Paul
LACY, John
LANGLEY, Jim
LAWLER, Robin
LEGGAT, Graham
LEGWINSKI, Sylvain
LEWINGTON, Ray
LLOYD, Barry
LOCK, Kevin
LOWE, Eddie
MACEDO, Tony
MALBRANQUE, Steed
MARSH, Rodney
MARSHALL, John
MCBRIDE, Brian
MELLOR, Peter
MITCHELL, John
MITTEN, Charlie
MONEY, Richard
MOORE, Bobby
MORGAN, Simon
MULLERY, Alan
MURPHY, Danny
O'CONNELL, Brian 'Pat'
OLIVER, Len
PARKER, Paul
PENN, Frank
PESCHISOLIDO, Paul
PEYTON, Gerry
PIKE, Martin
PRICE, Johnny
QUESTED, Len
REYNOLDS, Arthur
ROBSON, Sir Bobby
ROOKE, Ronnie
ROSENIOR, Leroy
ROSS, Harry
SAHA, Louis
SCHWARZER, Mark
SCOTT, Peter
SHARP, Jimmy
SLOUGH, Alan
STANNARD, Jim
STEVENS, Arthur
STRONG, Les
SYMONS, Kit
TAYLOR, Jim
TAYLOR, Maik
THOMAS, Glen
THOMAS, Bob
TOMPKINS, Jim
TOOTILL, Alf
TORRANCE, Jimmy
VAN DER SAR, Edwin
VOLZ, Moritz
WALKER, Willie
WHITE, Walter 'Wattie'
WILSON, Robert
ZAMORA, Bobby
Others? Vic Halom, John Cutbush, Zat Knight, John Collins, Darren Freeman, Geoff Horsfield
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Here are my views
Player of the 90's Simon Morgan along with Nick Cusack, Darren Freeman, Micky Conroy, Robbie Herria, Terry Angus & Mark Blake
Think I'd have to add in Colman and Horsfield
Plus Peshc?
No Kelly Haag on the list either.
Quote from: Peabody on May 31, 2012, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: dgnffc on May 31, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
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If he hadn't become MrQuote from: Peabody on May 31, 2012, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: dgnffc on May 31, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Peabody on May 31, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
Here are my views
Player of the 90's Simon Morgan along with Nick Cusack, Darren Freeman, Micky Conroy, Robbie Herria, Terry Angus & Mark Blake
Think I'd have to add in Colman and Horsfield
Plus Peshc?
Here are my views
Player of the 90's Simon Morgan along with Nick Cusack, Darren Freeman, Micky Conroy, Robbie Herria, Terry Angus & Mark Blake
Think I'd have to add in Colman and Horsfield
Plus Peshc?
If he hadn't become Mr Karen Brady, then yes!
What on earth has who he married got to do with his footballing ability?
I know they played for Fulham but to me Bobby Moore will always be West Ham and George Best will always be Man United - but I accept anyone's argument to th contrary
Quote from: Peabody on May 31, 2012, 07:59:20 PM
What on earth has who he married got to do with his footballing ability?
Nothing whatsoever
I'm surprised it does not include Reg Matthewson, Jimmy Dunne John Richardson, all came in after we started the slide from 1st to third in the late sixties. I always though Richardson was a great defender, bit gangly but good on the ball and scored a lot of important goals. Reg came to us from sheff Utd at the and of his career, was like Baird is today play anywhere along the back 4 and was as safe as houses.Dunne was a good midfield player and gave barrett and Conway the cover needed for them to maruade down the Wings.
They were key parts in turning it around and getting us back up and establishing us in div 2, especially Richardson.
A big player for us at Centre half has to be Paul Went, he did the playing with bloody head in bandages long before Butcher. A really great Centre Half Forwards dreaded playing against, a leader and scorer of important goals, shame injury curtailed his career, not surprising though as he was reckless with his body. Those that saw him play would agree he should be on the list.
Vic Halom could be a possible looking at some of theothers included
Just to say that I totally endorse Corked Hat's list. My fav era is the 50's. Johnny Key I agree also. If for only scoring two at the Hammy End against Spurs in a memorable 4-1 back in the win the early 60's. (In other words I cannot remember exactly when!)
Paul Went was a good player but was only with us a short time and anyway, his tackle put Les Strong out of the cup final.
Quote from: Peabody on June 01, 2012, 04:42:07 PM
Paul Went was a good player but was only with us a short time and anyway, his tackle put Les Strong out of the cup final.
He played over 50 games. His tackle on Strong was typical of him , he just threw himself into everything, even Les did not blame him. If he would not have been so 110% in every game he probaly would have played 3 times the number of games he did. Paul Went was a colussus at the back, an earlier version of Tont Adams, just broader and heavier.
Quote from: bog on June 01, 2012, 01:34:56 PM
Just to say that I totally endorse Corked Hat's list. My fav era is the 50's. Johnny Key I agree also. If for only scoring two at the Hammy End against Spurs in a memorable 4-1 back in the win the early 60's. (In other words I cannot remember exactly when!)
Feb '65......0-0 at half time...we blitzed them in the second half.
Quote from: Peabody on June 01, 2012, 04:42:07 PM
Paul Went was a good player but was only with us a short time and anyway, his tackle put Les Strong out of the cup final.
Sure was a strong lad...He made his league debut for Orient at the age of 15.
