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Title: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: King_Crud on July 04, 2012, 12:27:40 PM
The Ruiz one is a bit WTF, but otherwise do you agree?

Quote10. Gabriel Zakuani
After beginning his career at Leyton Orient, Fulham decided to spend £1million on the central defender, rising to £1.5million on appearances. They needn't have worried about that extra £500,000, as Zakuani never even made a first team appearance for the club. He joined Peterborough after three barren seasons.

9. Jon Harley
Harley was unable to break into the first team at a west London club (Chelsea), before he moved clubs and was unable to break into the first team at a west London club (Fulham). The difference was that Fulham paid £3.5million for the full back, who left on a free transfer after 25 Premier League games in three seasons.

8. Bryan Ruiz
Perhaps I am being unfair and Ruiz just hasn't settled yet, but figures of £10.6million (the fee) and two Premier League goals in 27 games (the return) after arriving from the Dutch league are Afonso Alves-like statistics. Ruiz will need to hit the ground running next season or he will move sharply up this list.

7. Andrejs Stolcers
The Latvian arrived from Spartak Moscow after just six months at the Russian club. Such was his impressive form that Fulham paid £2million for his services. Staying at Fulham for four years, he only managed to make 25 appearances, never impressing significantly, and even being loaned out to Yeovil. He ended his career at Hayes and Yeading.

6. Hamer Bouazza
Bouazza is a strange one, because he actually looks a decent player at times, but just too often goes missing for massive periods of games. Fulham paid Watford £3million for the Algerian, but he just didn't cut it in the Premier League. He moved on loan to Charlton after just one season, and then permanently to Sivasspor in Turkey on a permanent deal, with a significant loss made.

5. Abdeslam Ouaddou
Joining Fulham in 2001 for £2million, the club hoped that Ouaddou would form part of a solid defence made up primarily of Frenchmen. Given that he played just 21 times (and most of these as a substitute) in two seasons before being released on a free shows exactly why Jean Tigana's preference for French-based players didn't always pay dividends.

4. Diomansy Kamara
The signing of Kamara was a huge gamble for Fulham. They paid £6million for a player who had only scored five goals in his two previous Premier League seasons combined. The Senegal striker vowed to 'score lots of goals at Fulham'. You suspect 12 league goals in four seasons wasn't exactly what Fulham had in mind, and they loaned Kamara first to Celtic and then Leicester, before allowing his contract to expire.

3. Leon Andreasen
Bought for £2million a few days after, and for a similar price to, Brede Hangeland, Andreasen pretty much stunk the place out in his sole season at the Cottage. Joining on a three-and-a-half year deal, the Dane initially returned to Germany after six months of sub appearances and struggling for form. Hangeland, meanwhile, remained as the one Scandinavian rock.

2. Eddie Johnson
If you pay £3million for a striker in the modern era, you cannot necessarily expect him to be top scorer in the Premier League. You could, however, expect him to score a single league goal, and register more than four shots on target in the league in three seasons. Johnson was loaned out three times before finally being released, and is damn well lucky not to be at the top of this list.

1. Steve Marlet
Let's get the good bit out of the way: Marlet actually scored 11 league goals for Fulham. Unfortunately, he cost them £11.5million, played less than 15 games per season in his four campaigns (actually being on loan at Fulham's expense for two-and-a-half years), and is seen as one of the biggest wastes of money in Premier League history. So bad was Marlet that Al-Fayed actually took former manager Tigana to court, insinuating that the gaffer had deliberately overpaid for the striker, taking a cut himself. That's a hit to the ego of any player.

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Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: JBH on July 04, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Quote from: King_Crud on July 04, 2012, 12:27:40 PM
The Ruiz one is a bit WTF, but otherwise do you agree?

Quote10. Gabriel Zakuani
After beginning his career at Leyton Orient, Fulham decided to spend £1million on the central defender, rising to £1.5million on appearances. They needn't have worried about that extra £500,000, as Zakuani never even made a first team appearance for the club. He joined Peterborough after three barren seasons.

9. Jon Harley
Harley was unable to break into the first team at a west London club (Chelsea), before he moved clubs and was unable to break into the first team at a west London club (Fulham). The difference was that Fulham paid £3.5million for the full back, who left on a free transfer after 25 Premier League games in three seasons.

8. Bryan Ruiz
Perhaps I am being unfair and Ruiz just hasn't settled yet, but figures of £10.6million (the fee) and two Premier League goals in 27 games (the return) after arriving from the Dutch league are Afonso Alves-like statistics. Ruiz will need to hit the ground running next season or he will move sharply up this list.

7. Andrejs Stolcers
The Latvian arrived from Spartak Moscow after just six months at the Russian club. Such was his impressive form that Fulham paid £2million for his services. Staying at Fulham for four years, he only managed to make 25 appearances, never impressing significantly, and even being loaned out to Yeovil. He ended his career at Hayes and Yeading.

6. Hamer Bouazza
Bouazza is a strange one, because he actually looks a decent player at times, but just too often goes missing for massive periods of games. Fulham paid Watford £3million for the Algerian, but he just didn't cut it in the Premier League. He moved on loan to Charlton after just one season, and then permanently to Sivasspor in Turkey on a permanent deal, with a significant loss made.

5. Abdeslam Ouaddou
Joining Fulham in 2001 for £2million, the club hoped that Ouaddou would form part of a solid defence made up primarily of Frenchmen. Given that he played just 21 times (and most of these as a substitute) in two seasons before being released on a free shows exactly why Jean Tigana's preference for French-based players didn't always pay dividends.

4. Diomansy Kamara
The signing of Kamara was a huge gamble for Fulham. They paid £6million for a player who had only scored five goals in his two previous Premier League seasons combined. The Senegal striker vowed to 'score lots of goals at Fulham'. You suspect 12 league goals in four seasons wasn't exactly what Fulham had in mind, and they loaned Kamara first to Celtic and then Leicester, before allowing his contract to expire.

3. Leon Andreasen
Bought for £2million a few days after, and for a similar price to, Brede Hangeland, Andreasen pretty much stunk the place out in his sole season at the Cottage. Joining on a three-and-a-half year deal, the Dane initially returned to Germany after six months of sub appearances and struggling for form. Hangeland, meanwhile, remained as the one Scandinavian rock.

2. Eddie Johnson
If you pay £3million for a striker in the modern era, you cannot necessarily expect him to be top scorer in the Premier League. You could, however, expect him to score a single league goal, and register more than four shots on target in the league in three seasons. Johnson was loaned out three times before finally being released, and is damn well lucky not to be at the top of this list.

1. Steve Marlet
Let's get the good bit out of the way: Marlet actually scored 11 league goals for Fulham. Unfortunately, he cost them £11.5million, played less than 15 games per season in his four campaigns (actually being on loan at Fulham's expense for two-and-a-half years), and is seen as one of the biggest wastes of money in Premier League history. So bad was Marlet that Al-Fayed actually took former manager Tigana to court, insinuating that the gaffer had deliberately overpaid for the striker, taking a cut himself. That's a hit to the ego of any player.

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2012/07/top-10-worst-premier-league-signings-fulham/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+offthepost%2FTLAa+%28Off+The+Post%29 (http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2012/07/top-10-worst-premier-league-signings-fulham/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+offthepost%2FTLAa+%28Off+The+Post%29)

Total disagree about Bryan Ruiz he has all ready shown his class and was injured just as he started producing.

The one player missing of the list who should be at #1 is Lee Cook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 04, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Stolcers was bought during the championship promotion year? .Think Kamara repayed his fee alone with those goals at Man City, also think its far too early to put Ruiz in there
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: cottage cheese on July 04, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
i thought andreason was what we needed at that time a bit of steel in the midfield.

have people forgotten about simon elliot,
elrich,
runstrom,
drobny,
lastuvka (remember conceded goals by letting the ball run under his arm)
warner
brown(such a thug and had 1 good game against chelsea)
radzinksi (utter utter sh**e)
healy


i have so many who deserve to be on this list over kamara (who saved us)

Title: Re: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: MJG on July 04, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
Elrich was the worst footballer in the Prem let alone only Fulham's.
Title: Re: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: JBH on July 04, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Disagree about Radz he was pretty decent.

What about Litmanen??
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: The King on July 04, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: JBH on July 04, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
What about Litmanen??


No.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: cottage cheese on July 04, 2012, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: The King on July 04, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: JBH on July 04, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
What about Litmanen??


No.

jari is a legend. he saved us from relegation with his presence...a

nd radz played as a striker mostly and it took him till march to score his first goal that season against west brom. He was just speed with no end product, could not takle nor pass.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: HatterDon on July 04, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
The measure of how much Steve Marlet is hated is the fact that he's considered worse than Eddie Johnson.

Kind of a pointless article, isn't it?
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: beijing ben on July 04, 2012, 01:30:24 PM
Elrich, Litmanen and Cook are good calls. Some players were bad but maybe shouldn't be included because of how they became popular with the fans. Radz and Warner definitely fall into that category. Terrible performances yes, but loved by many fans nonetheless

Marlet's huge transfer fee is the biggest contributer to him always being number one in things like this, along with the manner of his leaving. But he did show true quality on a couple of occasions, especially at home to Bolton, where he completely ran the show. Players like Cook, Litmanen, Elrich, Zakuani etc., contributed very little, or literally nothing..
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: sunburywhite on July 04, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
David Elm?

Johnson had to be the worst footballer I have ever seen (apart from Ken Hewkins)
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 04, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
That list is nonsense. At £3m each and a return of zilch in apperances and goals, Johnson & Cook are easily our worst signings.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 04, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 04, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Stolcers was bought during the championship promotion year? .Think Kamara repayed his fee alone with those goals at Man City, also think its far too early to put Ruiz in there

Yes, I remember him scoring a cracker away to Tranmere on a Friday night.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 04, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 04, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 04, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Stolcers was bought during the championship promotion year? .Think Kamara repayed his fee alone with those goals at Man City, also think its far too early to put Ruiz in there

Yes, I remember him scoring a cracker away to Tranmere on a Friday night.

And on this note what about the Harley special against Villa form fully 35 yardshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8dCPT4puo8

How can any Fulham player scoring a goal like that in a Fulham shirt be listed in worst ever players?
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: nickmuir on July 04, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
ruiz is good but he is just lazy
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Senior Supporter on July 04, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: nickmuir on July 04, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
ruiz is good but he is just lazy

Stats showed that he covered more ground than anyone in several matches.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Jack Fulham on July 04, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on July 04, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
The measure of how much Steve Marlet is hated is the fact that he's considered worse than Eddie Johnson.

Kind of a pointless article, isn't it?


I thought it is looking at value for money hence why Marlet is top.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: YankeeJim on July 04, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
Perhaps we should move EJ to the top ofthe list in honor of Finnister1. He did love him so!
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Luke on July 04, 2012, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 04, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
Elrich was the worst footballer in the Prem let alone only Fulham's.

Totally agree with this, me and my old man still use him as the "Well at least he's not as bad as..." whenever we see a poor piece of play.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Alan_C on July 04, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Bobby Petta, Simon Elliot, Paul Parker (the return of) and possibly more controversial Steve Sidwell.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Burt on July 04, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 04, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
i thought andreason was what we needed at that time a bit of steel in the midfield.

have people forgotten about simon elliot,
elrich,
runstrom,
drobny,
lastuvka (remember conceded goals by letting the ball run under his arm)
warner
brown(such a thug and had 1 good game against chelsea)
radzinksi (utter utter sh**e)
healy


i have so many who deserve to be on this list over kamara (who saved us)



Radzinski - utter sh**e - really?

OK, he wasn't world class, but I would have him down as average rather than at the other end of the spectrum.

Enrich - totally agree.

Marlet has got to top the list really. Completely underwhelmed with him.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: General on July 04, 2012, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 04, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
i thought andreason was what we needed at that time a bit of steel in the midfield.

have people forgotten about simon elliot,
elrich,
runstrom,
drobny,
lastuvka (remember conceded goals by letting the ball run under his arm)
warner
brown(such a thug and had 1 good game against chelsea)
radzinksi (utter utter sh**e)
healy


i have so many who deserve to be on this list over kamara (who saved us)



Was just about to say Elrich - think you're being pretty harsh on Brown and Radzinski though - I loved Radzinski and he gave his all for this club, definitely doesn't deserve to be in the league with the likes of Litmanen, Elrich, Drobny, Warner et al..
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Mr Fulham on July 04, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: Alan_C on July 04, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Bobby Petta, Simon Elliot, Paul Parker (the return of) and possibly more controversial Steve Sidwell.
Sidders? Why?
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: cottage cheese on July 05, 2012, 09:46:56 AM
i always hated brown, offered nothing and gave away stupid fouls.
I understand some people liked radz but for me could not pass, shoot and tackle!(always shy and never got a foot in)

There are so many more shocking players that have graced the shirt like stoor??? kallio?? nicolas jensen (who lived on his reputation for that stunning goal for city) apart from that he was soo bad. 

We always have a habit of buying random keepers like batista and herrera (who nearly saved the pen against spurs)
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: beijing ben on July 05, 2012, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 05, 2012, 09:46:56 AM
i always hated brown, offered nothing and gave away stupid fouls.
I understand some people liked radz but for me could not pass, shoot and tackle!(always shy and never got a foot in)

There are so many more shocking players that have graced the shirt like stoor??? kallio?? nicolas jensen (who lived on his reputation for that stunning goal for city) apart from that he was soo bad. 

We always have a habit of buying random keepers like batista and herrera (who nearly saved the pen against spurs)

Stoor and N Jensen are good shouts..
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: clintclintdeuce on July 05, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Stephen Davis?
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Gozorich on July 05, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: MasterHaynes on July 04, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 04, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 04, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Stolcers was bought during the championship promotion year? .Think Kamara repayed his fee alone with those goals at Man City, also think its far too early to put Ruiz in there

Yes, I remember him scoring a cracker away to Tranmere on a Friday night.

And on this note what about the Harley special against Villa form fully 35 yardshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8dCPT4puo8

How can any Fulham player scoring a goal like that in a Fulham shirt be listed in worst ever players?


I took an American relative to the 'Harley' game. He had never seen a football match in his life but he was so taken by Harley's goal that he started watching 'soccer' in the States.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: HatterDon on July 05, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: clintclintdeuce on July 05, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Stephen Davis?

Davis was an excellent player. He just had an asshat for a manager.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Andy_M on July 05, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on July 05, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: clintclintdeuce on July 05, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Stephen Davis?

Davis was an excellent player. He just had an asshat for a manager.

Hehehe 'asshat' don't think I've ever heard anyone called that, but I like it!

Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 04, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: Alan_C on July 04, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Bobby Petta, Simon Elliot, Paul Parker (the return of) and possibly more controversial Steve Sidwell.
Sidders? Why?

Echo this as to why?!? I thought he was great at the end of the Hughes season. OK maybe great is a bit over the top, but was a very solid player!
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: alfie on July 05, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Gonna come down slightly on the side of Marlet, i knew him quite well and his big transfer fee had bugger all to do with him.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Berserker on July 05, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
I think Sidders is alright,  the only thing i worry about is his getting a red card as he can be a bit of a dirty tackler
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 05, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: MasterHaynes on July 04, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 04, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 04, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Stolcers was bought during the championship promotion year? .Think Kamara repayed his fee alone with those goals at Man City, also think its far too early to put Ruiz in there

Yes, I remember him scoring a cracker away to Tranmere on a Friday night.

And on this note what about the Harley special against Villa form fully 35 yardshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8dCPT4puo8

How can any Fulham player scoring a goal like that in a Fulham shirt be listed in worst ever players?


I see FFC has just put this goal on the main site voting it in at no 3 of all time best goals, so, worst player scores 3rd best ever goal doesn't really go scan does it.

Did one of his missed piledrivers into the Hammy end hit you on the head? I can't see any other reason how he would get in to anyones worst ever list
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Mike on July 05, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
A number of these players are well known because they were good enough to play for Fulham a fair few times. Elrich on the other hand displayed the ability of being the worse ever player each time he trotted on to the pitch. I remember fondly sitting next to my young lad watching him for the first time. The ball was rolled out to him on the wing and as he went to control it; it went under his foot. Fair enough every one has an off day. The second piece of evidence was the open goal miss from about a yard. The player by whom all need to be measured from when marking out of 10. When playing really badly they get at least a 1 because they weren't as bad as Elrich.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: valdeingruo on July 05, 2012, 08:23:09 PM
I cant agree with the Ruiz bit, both goals he has taken were class, he covers alot of ground and looked to be gaining confidence before injury. I look to Dembele for adjustment period since they came from the same league. He has barely one season under his belt and hasnt left us yet, shouldnt even be considered imo.

Kamara, yeah he should have scored more, but would you be willing to trade 6 mil for a next season in the top flight, i think so.

As for HD's asshat comment, love it and agree. Wonder if we may see some "team 12" "oldco" "rangers" or whatever you want to call them now end up here.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Alan_C on July 05, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 04, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: Alan_C on July 04, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Bobby Petta, Simon Elliot, Paul Parker (the return of) and possibly more controversial Steve Sidwell.
Sidders? Why?

I don't rate him. A box to box player that doesnt do much between. Unlike the others he arrived really at what might've referred to as a smaller club and frankly brings nothing over others already not regulars in the team. Will be shown up as a player that can't pass or build up play if he gets a chance this season.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: HatterDon on July 05, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: Alan_C on July 05, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 04, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: Alan_C on July 04, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Bobby Petta, Simon Elliot, Paul Parker (the return of) and possibly more controversial Steve Sidwell.
Sidders? Why?

I don't rate him. A box to box player that doesnt do much between. Unlike the others he arrived really at what might've referred to as a smaller club and frankly brings nothing over others already not regulars in the team. Will be shown up as a player that can't pass or build up play if he gets a chance this season.

You do get the feeling that the scout that recommened him to Chelsea had to look for a new job about a month after Sidwell got to the Dog Track.
Title: Re: 10 Worst Fulham Premier League Signings
Post by: Holders on July 06, 2012, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: alfie on July 05, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Gonna come down slightly on the side of Marlet, i knew him quite well and his big transfer fee had bugger all to do with him.


I agree, I think he is far over-abused. His fee and the manner of his going were out of his control. Played in position he could be influential, Coleman got more out of him and didn't want him to go but by then the die was cast. I shall never forget his goal against Newcastle.

I also disagree with Ruiz being on this list, his almost-telepathic understanding with Dempsey promised so much before his injury and Dempsey's possible departure.

And Kamara? Worth it for his goals at Man City alone, if you were to ask Mo.

Not so many seasons ago Baird would have been on this list but not to be seen on the strength of some gritty performances he's won the fans over, even if he's scarcely seen now.