So we signed this German who just got relegated to BL2. This means we now have Riether :German-flag:, Grygera, Kelly ROI flag, Baird, and Hughes all of whom have recent experience as RB. Meanwhile, we have only one striker -- unless you count Trotta.
It seems also that Jol prefers loans from the Bundesliga -- and not of the young variety.
Where's all the U-25s to make the squad younger?
I may well arsk.
Grygera might be crocked, Baird might be leaving, Hughes isn't a right back, and it's as certain as can be that Jol is fully aware that we need strikers, and not just a decent squad player or two. Apart from that, good analysis. S001.gif
Too busy setting up twitter accounts perhaps?
I would worry if we were spending significant transfer money on 30+ players, but seeing as they are coming in for free, we can see they will only add to the squad.
Grygera and Kelly out of contract, can see Baird leaving to maybe Southampton where he used to be club captain, Hughes and Senderos frequently found out when playing at RB. Not much strength there in my opinion. I think we needed a right back urgently
Is this the first sign of the board going into meltdown, or can we all hold our nerve for a tad longer?
The players don't return from their holidays until Monday, do they?
No going into meltdown is we have signed two old players who will be gone in a season and we have no forwards and appear to be skint by ridding ourselves of two old but good first teamers. We have no money and look to be heading for relegation. Diddy David is leaving and Ray Lewington is leaving. Oh God Oh God we are in real trouble. Help Help.
It could be worse, the club could have done a 'Cardiff' and changed our colours so that we play in blue like them lot down the road
We only have 56 days of the transfer window left... Better get a move on!!!
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 07, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
No going into meltdown is we have signed two old players who will be gone in a season and we have no forwards and appear to be skint by ridding ourselves of two old but good first teamers. We have no money and look to be heading for relegation. Diddy David is leaving and Ray Lewington is leaving. Oh God Oh God we are in real trouble. Help Help.
Good to see you back in traditional Lofty mode! Missing the blingo end of the scale though!
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 07, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
No going into meltdown is we have signed two old players who will be gone in a season and we have no forwards and appear to be skint by ridding ourselves of two old but good first teamers. We have no money and look to be heading for relegation. Diddy David is leaving and Ray Lewington is leaving. Oh God Oh God we are in real trouble. Help Help.
Thus it gets worse for you as Diddy has actually left/stood down/stepped aside and Lew has gone/moved on/closed the door. Sugar in the ovaltine time!
If you want to feel worse I think Jol is putting his thoughts towards a Ruiz led attacking midfield. A sort of Barcelona meets Spain meets tanker crash .................................... a fully laden one at that.
Oh no think of the environmental issues!
I do miss Bling and hope he posts more regularly.
As a fan who still gets a nosebleed and the shakes when we don't play two strikers. The thought of sticky stocky ticky tocky football at relegation fighting Fulham leaves me with a Ruized slick in need of forward detergent. Hoards of volunteers washing and trying to clean up the mess of dazed and confused Fulham players washed up not knowing how to score or enter the penalty box. No Jol. Sort it out.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 07, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
I do miss Bling and hope he posts more regularly.
As a fan who still gets a nosebleed and the shakes when we don't play two strikers. The thought of sticky stocky ticky tocky football at relegation fighting Fulham leaves me with a Ruized slick in need of forward detergent. Hoards of volunteers washing and trying to clean up the mess of dazed and confused Fulham players washed up not knowing how to score or enter the penalty box. No Jol. Sort it out.
You are a genius sir. Pudding for this rain lashed eeveningwill be a twist on sticky, stocky, ticky, tocky toffee pudding ........ with custard. Reap and weep Jol.
Mrs B. I suggest you bring tissues for the oopeninggame......... and a life jacket. 'We are surprisingly cool and calm in the Brainstrust, not yet officially renamed 'The Enclave'. If we are scoring from midfield and looking to play with the ball thats fine. Lets face it the last couple of target men have not worked out, Sa was lost and AJ was inconsistent to say the least. A double diamond formation. Do they still sell that stuff. Sticky. stocky, ticky, tocky, toffee pudding and a pint of DD.
Off to stock up with sand bags ..........
If your group is an enclave then i am an outpost. I'll use my secret stock of smuggled in PG sock monkeys to lob at infiltrating away fans into the neutral end. Oh i need to get a nice cup of tea now, then buy some sticky toffee pud now you've put the idea in my head, yum yum
I'd much rather save money on other positions for squad players. He could be not spending £2-3m on certain positions because he might want £10m+ player(s) up in attacking positions. He's replacing players with better quality replacements so far.
Five to one baby, one in five are the actual words.
The song's a finger up at the hippies (the one in five signifying the central digit) who are anti-war, the Nam war to be precise. Hence these lyrics:
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Okay I'm currently reading up about this song, I may not actually be right here. The above lines are 2 fingers at hippies but there's plenty more to it. Five to one can be a ratio, young to old, pot smokers to non-pot smokers, might be average life expectancy in Nam. There's a hint it might be about wanking too, five to one being the ratio between...yeah you get it
Quote from: BalDrick on July 07, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
Five to one baby, one in five are the actual words.
The song's a finger up at the hippies (the one in five signifying the central digit) who are anti-war, the Nam war to be precise. Hence these lyrics:
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Okay I'm currently reading up about this song, I may not actually be right here. The above lines are 2 fingers at hippies but there's plenty more to it. Five to one can be a ratio, young to old, pot smokers to non-pot smokers, might be average life expectancy in Nam. There's a hint it might be about wanking too, five to one being the ratio between...yeah you get it
I never was sure what his exact meaning was on that song. I'd be interested if you found out anything concrete on what he did mean.
A good reminder for me though to upload my old Doors CD's onto my ITunes.
Quote from: NorthernWhite on July 07, 2012, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: BalDrick on July 07, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
Five to one baby, one in five are the actual words.
The song's a finger up at the hippies (the one in five signifying the central digit) who are anti-war, the Nam war to be precise. Hence these lyrics:
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Okay I'm currently reading up about this song, I may not actually be right here. The above lines are 2 fingers at hippies but there's plenty more to it. Five to one can be a ratio, young to old, pot smokers to non-pot smokers, might be average life expectancy in Nam. There's a hint it might be about wanking too, five to one being the ratio between...yeah you get it
I never was sure what his exact meaning was on that song. I'd be interested if you found out anything concrete on what he did mean.
A good reminder for me though to upload my old Doors CD's onto my ITunes.
Found out nothing except nobody really knows and the man who may have known
is alive and well and pumping gas in a petrol station in the deep south has been dead for over 40 years. He said it wasn't political but to believe anything he said, especially by then when he was a walking bottlebank, would have been a tad naive. 5-1 was the ratio of youngsters to oldsters then (baby boom), some say the ratio of Vietcong to soldiers in Nam, the ratio of stoners to non-stoners, the list goes on. Few more on here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_to_One. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_to_One.)
Cracking song though
Cheers Baldrick and guess we'll never know. Shame he was off his t*ts by the end.
Downloaded some of the albums last night, agreed, cracking song.
thanks for the correction, Mr. Baldrick.
As for the "underlying meaning," I never heard either of those meanings. Personally, I think it's kind of silly to extrapolate rock/soul/blues lyrics. Even those that tell a story succeed because of their musicality and not any underlying meaning.
Two quotes leap to mind:
1. The Guess Who. when asked about their song "Share the Land" promoting collectivishm said, "No, we're not communists. We just liked the rhyme."
2. Don McLean, when asked if it was cool that 20 plus years later people were still arguing about what the lyrics mean, said "Of course. It's always cool when someone turns one of your compositions into a parlor game."
Those of you who dig Google and poetry, search for Billy Collins' poem "Introduction to Poetry."
Quote from: HatterDon on July 08, 2012, 03:54:54 PM
thanks for the correction, Mr. Baldrick.
As for the "underlying meaning," I never heard either of those meanings. Personally, I think it's kind of silly to extrapolate rock/soul/blues lyrics. Even those that tell a story succeed because of their musicality and not any underlying meaning.
Two quotes leap to mind:
1. The Guess Who. when asked about their song "Share the Land" promoting collectivishm said, "No, we're not communists. We just liked the rhyme."
2. Don McLean, when asked if it was cool that 20 plus years later people were still arguing about what the lyrics mean, said "Of course. It's always cool when someone turns one of your compositions into a parlor game."
Those of you who dig Google and poetry, search for Billy Collins' poem "Introduction to Poetry."
Believe me, I'm dreadful at knowing what songs are about, never stops me enjoying them though. But this one is quite intriguing I think. Here are the lyrics anyway:
Yeah, c'mon
Love my girl
She lookin' good
C'mon
One more
Five to one, baby
One in five
No one here gets out alive, now
You get yours, baby
I'll get mine
Gonna make it, baby
If we try
The old get old
And the young get stronger
May take a week
And it may take longer
They got the guns
But we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah
We're takin' over
Come on!
Yeah!
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/doors/five+to+one_20042584.html (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/doors/five+to+one_20042584.html) ]
Your ballroom days are over, baby
Night is drawing near
Shadows of the evening crawl across the years
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful dimes
Gonna' make it, baby, in our prime
Come together one more time
Get together one more time
Get together one more time
Get together, aha
Get together one more time!
Get together one more time!
Get together one more time
Get together one more time
Get together, gotta, get together
Ohhhhhhhh!
Hey, c'mon, honey
You won't have along wait for me, baby
I'll be there in just a little while
You see, I gotta go out in this car with these people and...
Get together one more time
Get together one more time
Get together, got to
Get together, got to
Get together, got to
Take you up in my room and...
Hah-hah-hah-hah-hah
Love my girl
She lookin' good, lookin' real good
Love ya, c'mon
Quote from: Rupert on July 07, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Is this the first sign of the board going into meltdown, or can we all hold our nerve for a tad longer?
The players don't return from their holidays until Monday, do they?
..... but you must expect peeps to get a bit ancy .........Jol has had a whole year to line up his targets as it appears he knew that The Dazzler was not his kind of player very early on
...............and six weeks to bag em
unless he knows that the D's are not going after all :023:
Well I'm going to be strong :dft002:
Always dangerous, I think, to over-intellectualize on the meaning of rock lyrics - particularly when the lyricist's head was in the kind of state Morrison's must have been in.
When asked the 'meaning' of his songs Dylan provided many different answers, my favourite probably being, "If you don't understand it, it's not for you." And Don McLean, on being asked the meaning of American Pie famously said, "It means I'll never have to work again."
By the time 'Waiting For The Sun' came out many of us (then) teenagers naively thought that we were on the brink of some kind of revolution in which the youth of the world would take over the running of things from the old regime. A load of bollocks, of course, particularly as very few of us were actually prepared to do anything practical to bring it about. But lyrics such as 'They've got the guns, but we've got the numbers. Gonna win, yeah. We're taking over' seemed to hold a particular message, and, this, presumably was Morrison's intention. In retrospect, of course, his, 'Nobody here gets out alive,' has a certain poignancy.
Quote from: cmg on July 08, 2012, 07:54:20 PM
Always dangerous, I think, to over-intellectualize on the meaning of rock lyrics - particularly when the lyricist's head was in the kind of state Morrison's must have been in.
When asked the 'meaning' of his songs Dylan provided many different answers, my favourite probably being, "If you don't understand it, it's not for you." And Don McLean, on being asked the meaning of American Pie famously said, "It means I'll never have to work again."
By the time 'Waiting For The Sun' came out many of us (then) teenagers naively thought that we were on the brink of some kind of revolution in which the youth of the world would take over the running of things from the old regime. A load of bollocks, of course, particularly as very few of us were actually prepared to do anything practical to bring it about. But lyrics such as 'They've got the guns, but we've got the numbers. Gonna win, yeah. We're taking over' seemed to hold a particular message, and, this, presumably was Morrison's intention. In retrospect, of course, his, 'Nobody here gets out alive,' has a certain poignancy.
I think it's the same with certain films. I had a discussion years ago with my other half about Mulholland Drive by David Lynch, he really wanted to know what it meant, but my arguement was why does it have to mean anything.
