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Title: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/07/17/3245447/fulham-in-talks-to-loan-lukaku-from-rivals-chelsea (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/07/17/3245447/fulham-in-talks-to-loan-lukaku-from-rivals-chelsea)

Fulham in talks to loan Lukaku from rivals Chelsea

The west London neighbours are close to reaching agreement on a deal that would take the teenager across the capital for 12 months

Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku is closing in on a loan move to Fulham, Goal.com can reveal.

The west London rivals are in advanced talks on a deal that would take Lukaku across the capital on a season-long loan.

Martin Jol has sanctioned a move for the Belgian teenager after Chelsea made it clear they were looking to offload, either on loan or permanent deals, some of the fringe players of their first-team squad.

Chelsea have no problem in allowing Lukaku, 19, to move to Craven Cottage as long as he is guaranteed the opportunity to play more games than he would at Stamford Bridge.

Lukaku has spoken of his frustration at the lack of first-team chances during a disappointing debut season at Chelsea following his £18 million transfer last summer from Anderlecht.

He said he was "really angry" that he started only a single Premier League match and claimed that he was treated poorly by former manager Andre Villas-Boas.

Despite the departures of Didier Drogba and Salomon Kalou this summer and Nicolas Anelka in January, Lukaku remains a long way behind Fernando Torres and Daniel Sturridge in the pecking order.

Chelsea and Fulham have now agreed the basic terms of a loan deal, which would be broadly similar to Gael Kakuta's spell at Craven Cottage in the second half of the 2010-11 season, when the young Frenchman's wages were equally shared between the two clubs.  

If the deal is completed, Lukaku will become Fulham's third forward signing of the transfer window.

The west Londoners have already signed Mladen Petric and Hugo Rodallega on frees, from Hamburg and Wigan Athletic respectively, but sold Andy Johnson to QPR and lost out to Reading in their bid to sign Russian Pavel Pogrebnyak, their loan star of last season.
Title: Re: Romeleu Lukaku to join on loan?
Post by: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 08:40:27 AM
I wouldn't say no to an £18m striker for a season even if he is a Chelsea player. Would that make him the most expensive player ever to play for us?

Duff was £17m at one point.
Title: Re: Romeleu Lukaku to join on loan?
Post by: JBH on July 17, 2012, 08:43:35 AM
As this article is by goal.com I will take it with a pinch of salt
But if it is true then I would say that it is a really good loan signing. :028:
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 08:43:35 AM
As this article is by goal.com I will take it with a pinch of salt
But if it is true then I would say that it is a really good loan signing. :028:

That was my initial thought, but as its all over twitter  had to post a story from somewhere and they were quickest to get one up.

Thought it would also be a good discussion point as it is a Chelsea player, but also he is the Chelsea player signed as their replacement for Drogba in the long run with an insane price tag.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
I hate loan moves of this type. It only serves to give rival clubs players experience whilst potentially holding back our own young players development.
If it was with a view to a permenant deal I'd be happy but thats never going to be the case.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
I hate loan moves of this type. It only serves to give rival clubs players experience whilst potentially holding back our own young players development.
If it was with a view to a permenant deal I'd be happy but thats never going to be the case.
agreed. all this does is leaves us in the same boat we are in this time next year. how can you plan for the future with loans such as this. we are an established prem team so leave the big loan sigingings to the newbies and the desperates
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us.  
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us.  

I've heard tht he is a talent who wants to play football but has not had a real chance at Chavski and is looking to prove how good he is, also a mate of Moussa so that may help, I am not a fan of loans but if it gives us more time to find the right player then it is worth giving him a try  :028:
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us. 

I've heard tht he is a talent who wants to play football but has not had a real chance at Chavski and is looking to prove how good he is, also a mate of Moussa so that may help, I am not a fan of loans but if it gives us more time to find the right player then it is worth giving him a try  :028:
so urley he will follow dembele to united then?  we are setting ourselfs are for a massive fall. we could potentially lose lakuka dembele dempsey diarra kacka and probably others all for nothing at the end of the season coming. how would we replace all of those in one window. we need to be planning ahead now we already have enough quick fixes
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 09:22:31 AM

Some or all of those might resign but in any event our future is in our academy. Whilst our 16 to 19 year olds progress short term fixes aren't the worst strategy.

Largely depends who else we could get that's affordable.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:23:41 AM
we are setting ourselfs are for a massive fall. we could potentially lose lakuka dembele dempsey diarra kacka and probably others all for nothing at the end of the season coming. how would we replace all of those in one window. we need to be planning ahead now we already have enough quick fixes
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How do you know the club aren't planning for the future?? Who say's Kacka and Diarra won't sign a new contract, Moussa may leave at the end of  this season but that is not a suprise and as for Clint who knows what he really wants.

This is Football and this sort of thing happens all the time so  S001.gif
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 09:22:31 AM

Some or all of those might resign but in any event our future is in our academy. Whilst our 16 to 19 year olds progress short term fixes aren't the worst strategy.

Largely depends who else we could get that's affordable.
providing that some actually kick on. very few decent strikers come through english academys.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us.  

I've heard tht he is a talent who wants to play football but has not had a real chance at Chavski and is looking to prove how good he is, also a mate of Moussa so that may help, I am not a fan of loans but if it gives us more time to find the right player then it is worth giving him a try  :028:

he has talent no question, but giving our position there is no point having him for one season and then him going back to chelsea. We need a striker who is going to stay for 3-4 years and develop into a star man. That is what we need as we already have trotta as the young man desperate to play
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:38:48 AM

he has talent no question, but giving our position there is no point having him for one season and then him going back to chelsea. We need a striker who is going to stay for 3-4 years and develop into a star man. That is what we need as we already have trotta as the young man desperate to play
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Who's to say Petric isn't that player?
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:38:48 AM

he has talent no question, but giving our position there is no point having him for one season and then him going back to chelsea. We need a striker who is going to stay for 3-4 years and develop into a star man. That is what we need as we already have trotta as the young man desperate to play

Who's to say Petric isn't that player?
[/quote]star man at 36?
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:38:48 AM

he has talent no question, but giving our position there is no point having him for one season and then him going back to chelsea. We need a striker who is going to stay for 3-4 years and develop into a star man. That is what we need as we already have trotta as the young man desperate to play

Who's to say Petric isn't that player?
star man at 36?
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He is 31 so in 3 years he will be 34 which as far as I'm concerned isn't that old to be a star man.

Who is too say that Trotta will even make it as a Premier league striker because if he was that good then we would have had bigger teams trying to pick him up now
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 17, 2012, 09:38:48 AM

he has talent no question, but giving our position there is no point having him for one season and then him going back to chelsea. We need a striker who is going to stay for 3-4 years and develop into a star man. That is what we need as we already have trotta as the young man desperate to play

Who's to say Petric isn't that player?
star man at 36?


He is 31 so in 3 years he will be 34 which as far as I'm concerned isn't that old to be a star man.

Who is too say that Trotta will even make it as a Premier league striker because if he was that good then we would have had bigger teams trying to pick him up now
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frei is a good young player, so why have no bigger teams come in for him????

get a better argument sunshine :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Lighthouse on July 17, 2012, 10:07:01 AM
So are we to assume that if the loan comes off we are no longer in the market for forwards like Rhodes etc? It would mean we are buying and loaning players either out of clever management or necessity
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: VicHalomsLovechild on July 17, 2012, 10:07:07 AM
You can have a plan, but if the players in that plan go somewhere else you're back to square one. Bringing in competion for Trotta short term can only help his development. I guess Dave will be the starting forward + another from the remaining three. 
Title: Re: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: MJG on July 17, 2012, 10:27:45 AM
I would rather buy a player than loan one. Its about building a team long term not just for a year.
Title: Re: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: epsomraver on July 17, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2012, 10:27:45 AM
I would rather buy a player than loan one. Its about building a team long term not just for a year.

Don't have that sort of time in the top flight, instant success is demanded by all, fans as well
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on July 17, 2012, 10:33:57 AM
This type of loan will always be attractive to clubs of our stature...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: MJG on July 17, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on July 17, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2012, 10:27:45 AM
I would rather buy a player than loan one. Its about building a team long term not just for a year.

Don't have that sort of time in the top flight, instant success is demanded by all, fans as well
we already have one striker on a one year contract and I would prefer not to have another (striker)on just a years loan..
Unproven as well ;)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Andy_M on July 17, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
Got to say I'd take this every day of the week. Specially if we are only paying 50% of his wages. If he's no good it's not like we are paying him a lot of money to be no good and we can always cancel the loan and send him back.

There aren't exactly many strikers knocking around at the moment of that quality in the price bracket we as a club would be able to afford.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Legate21 on July 17, 2012, 10:51:40 AM
Personally I would take Lukaku and let Trotta go out on loan to a Championship team for the year. People say about it possibly stopping Trotta's development, but personally I think these two guys are on completely different levels. Lukaku is a full international, and scored 41 in 98 for Anderlecht aged 17/18. I think he would have more of an impact that Trotta this year, and if we are being put off by the price of the likes of Rhodes and other strikers we don't know about then this will help us out until Jol finds himself a diamond.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: elgreenio on July 17, 2012, 10:51:50 AM
would rather this than a ridiculously inflated Rhodes
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Basil on July 17, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
I would like this as it gives us a year to develop all these youngster we sign every week whilst not signing someone up for 4 years and blocking their progress in the medium term.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Andy_M on July 17, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Quote from: Basil on July 17, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
I would like this as it gives us a year to develop all these youngster we sign every week whilst not signing someone up for 4 years and blocking their progress in the medium term.

I think this is a VERY good point!

Signing players on these one year deals and loan deals means we are not tied into having players at the club paying there wages for years to come and will allow the club to bring through the promising youngster we have.

Jol has done a brilliant job in moving on the older higher wage earners and must have freed up a considerable amount of money by doing so, so why undo this good work unless the right player is available, which at the moment it doesn't seem that they are.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: MontenegroWhite on July 17, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
He wouldn't be starter for us, as I thing Jol will use Hugo and Petrić as first options. Lukaku would just took place on the bench and put Trotta definitely out.

Also I thing his wage is too high for bench player (even if we pay 50% only)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:33:55 AM

It's great for posters to have faith in Trotta but I've seen nothing yet to justify it.

Jol has said that the kids have to be better than the senior pros for them to replace them. On that basis the more competition at the club the better.

You can't bring in kids hoping they'll be good enough. Jol is clearly willing to give them opportunities. From that they have to prove themselves too good to be dropped.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:33:55 AM

It's great for posters to have faith in Trotta but I've seen nothing yet to justify it.

Jol has said that the kids have to be better than the senior pros for them to replace them. On that basis the more competition at the club the better.

You can't bring in kids hoping they'll be good enough. Jol is clearly willing to give them opportunities. From that they have to prove themselves too good to be dropped.

I'm with you there. I have seen little in Trotta to make me believe in him but I don't see the point in Lukaku warming the bench like that other lad we had on loan from them.
We could always use it as a test. Throw Trotta on from the bench, if he can't cut it, the proofs there that we can get shot and get someone else in January
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:41:47 AM

And until then?

That's why we need depth and a couple of loan signings give us that.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:33:55 AM

It's great for posters to have faith in Trotta but I've seen nothing yet to justify it.

Jol has said that the kids have to be better than the senior pros for them to replace them. On that basis the more competition at the club the better.

You can't bring in kids hoping they'll be good enough. Jol is clearly willing to give them opportunities. From that they have to prove themselves too good to be dropped.
so do prey tell what good things you have seen of lakuka. he was pants against us in carling cup so i pressume you have seen lakuka more times than you have trotta (which would mean you have spent far too much time watching scum reserves)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 11:47:42 AM
competition is one thing in a club but the way Jol played towards the end of the season we played with on up front with the midfield chopping and changing around the lone striker.

Im assuming that is how we will line up this year. Therefore petric and the rod will be the main two guys starting and fighting for the one position. Lukaku does not play on the wings he was brought in to take over the drogba role. He will be third/fourth choice should dempsey stay or we sign rhodes

This is a pointless signing as it wont be competition for places being 4th/5th choice.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:52:20 AM

I don't know how Jol wants us to play.

After January last season Jol had Pog as his only striker most of the time with AJ and Sa usually injured.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.

I'm not trashing him - I hope he succeeds - he just hasn't impressed me the way that, say, Frei and Kakaniclic have and earlier, Luke Cornwall and Elliott Omusuzi did.

I'm wrong more often than I'm right.

Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Mr_Moon on July 17, 2012, 12:16:05 PM
Don't believe it unless Agent ITK says so
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 12:18:36 PM
Also as Lukaku is under 21 (he is 19) he wouldnt have to be included in our 25 man squad meaning we can sign more players over that age and have him as option as well
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 12:18:36 PM
Also as Lukaku is under 21 (he is 19) he wouldnt have to be included in our 25 man squad meaning we can sign more players over that age and have him as option as well
yes but his wages will be huge. he cost them 18 mil so he must be on a fair whack. even if we only paid half it would probably still make him one of our highest earners
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.


I know a guy assosiated with the Watford training ground and he said at the time that they loved Kakanicilc, but Trotta wasn't looking impressive at all.
I saw him play in one game for the reserves and really wasn't impressed. I know its only one game but....
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Admin on July 17, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.


I know a guy assosiated with the Watford training ground and he said at the time that they loved Kakanicilc, but Trotta wasn't looking impressive at all.
I saw him play in one game for the reserves and really wasn't impressed. I know its only one game but....

Trotta will not make it at this level. Wycombe maybe, Fulham no..
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: leonffc on July 17, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.


I know a guy assosiated with the Watford training ground and he said at the time that they loved Kakanicilc, but Trotta wasn't looking impressive at all.
I saw him play in one game for the reserves and really wasn't impressed. I know its only one game but....
but surely the same rule some are saying for rhodes must apply to trotta. that rule being he will now be playing with better players, so surely he can only really be judged on what he does with our propper first team. not the reserves pretending to be them in the cup but a propper 10 plus trotta. this has happend for only a few mins and he did not look out of place in that very short time.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 17, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Fulham eye loan move for Chelsea's starlet Lukaku after Belgian struggled at Stamford Bridge By Sportsmail Reporter

Fulham are considering a deal to take Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku on a season-long loan.

Talks between the clubs are understood to be ongoing for the player that cost Chelsea £18million last summer.
Martin Jol has sanctioned a move for the Belgian teenager after Chelsea made it clear they were looking to offload, either on loan or permanent deals, some of the fringe players of their first-team squad.

If the deal is completed, Lukaku will become Fulham's third forward signing of the transfer window.
The west Londoners have already signed Mladen Petric and Hugo Rodallega on free trasnsfers, from Hamburg and Wigan respectively, but sold Andy Johnson to QPR and lost out to Reading in their bid to sign Russian Pavel Pogrebnyak, their loan star of last season.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2174763/Fulham-keen-Chelseas-Romelu-Lukaku-loan.html#ixzz20stbSL89 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2174763/Fulham-keen-Chelseas-Romelu-Lukaku-loan.html#ixzz20stbSL89)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: HatterDon on July 17, 2012, 05:16:49 PM
Just saw this item reported on SSN. Looking good.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: EJL on July 17, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
He wouldn't get a game. He'd have the same amount and quality of competition like Kakuta did.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: In the Enclosure on July 17, 2012, 08:42:14 PM
Think he is much better than Kakuta based on the goals he scored in Belgium - A good addition
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
Kakuta at 19 had not played 1 senior game

Lukaku at 19 has played 95 games (14 for belgium) with 35 goals. A whol different class, the only thing the 2 players have in similar is the both have Kaku in their name.

This kid is outstanding and will be one of the best strikers in the world one day
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: HatterDon on July 17, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: os5889 on July 17, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
Kakuta at 19 had not played 1 senior game

Lukaku at 19 has played 95 games (14 for belgium) with 35 goals. A whol different class, the only thing the 2 players have in similar is the both have Kaku in their name.

This kid is outstanding and will be one of the best strikers in the world one day

I rise to state my agreement with what the distinguished member for somewhere in Wales just said. I'm very excited about having this guy. Hope it works out.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Travers Barney on July 17, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
I don't... I want my own Club players to score for my team.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Travers Barney on July 17, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
Even more so players who don't play for that lot.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: sipwell on July 17, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us. 

I have to jump to the defence of my compatriot here. How would you feel if you play Champion's League football one day (Anderlecht) and in a poor reserve competition with plenty of players who are never going to cut it the next (Chelsea)? I would have a bloody bad attitude as well. Lukaku is considered to be one of the greatest Belgian talents, has scored goals both in Europa League games and in the Belgian competition (probably not the best but currently one where half of England is fishing in). I don't think your mate at Chelsea can put forward similar statistics.

Evidently my answer is yes. He is a target man. He is a goal scorer. He is a team player.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Admin on July 17, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
Jesus this boy looks strong and knows how to finish

Romelu Lukaku : The greatest talent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUQkplAKBdc#)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Patterson on July 17, 2012, 11:50:56 PM
Quote from: sipwell on July 17, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on July 17, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
no thanks, failed to etablish himself at chelsea and the reserves. Have a friend who plays for the under 20/19's and told me that he has a bad attitude, and thinks he is god. We have trotta who is that cover sorted for us. 

I have to jump to the defence of my compatriot here. How would you feel if you play Champion's League football one day (Anderlecht) and in a poor reserve competition with plenty of players who are never going to cut it the next (Chelsea)? I would have a bloody bad attitude as well. Lukaku is considered to be one of the greatest Belgian talents, has scored goals both in Europa League games and in the Belgian competition (probably not the best but currently one where half of England is fishing in). I don't think your mate at Chelsea can put forward similar statistics.

Evidently my answer is yes. He is a target man. He is a goal scorer. He is a team player.

As a half-Belgian, I agree 100%.  He's a big man who has great composure for such a young player.  I'd have him on in a split second and play Petric or Rodallega off him regularly.  I'd rather him than Carroll personally.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: MrCheviot on July 18, 2012, 04:35:29 AM
Quote from: Andy_M on July 17, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
Got to say I'd take this every day of the week. Specially if we are only paying 50% of his wages. If he's no good it's not like we are paying him a lot of money to be no good and we can always cancel the loan and send him back.

There aren't exactly many strikers knocking around at the moment of that quality in the price bracket we as a club would be able to afford.

This. Maybe in a season or two once teams start ridding themselves of fringe youngsters they stockpiled pre-FFP, but thus far we've been rebuffed by every young striker (or their club) we've been linked with, save Hugo.

Assuming we used all of the 10M for Dempsey and put it towards a striker - who'd we get? Could we tempt anyone? 

Until we know how Petric and Rodallega and Kasmi and Ruiz work out, (and Trotta, who should go out on loan for game time), I think a loan like this gives us some time to see how things develop. If we end up losing Dembele also, what looks like resignation in the transfer market would actually be prudence. Or, what looks like a squad weakness on paper may turn out to be just fine, so I suspect Jol would be over the moon with an option like Lukaku for one year.

Looking at it another way, if he's good enough a loan season with us won't make his future, he'll make it anyway. I don't subscribe to the idea that we're making an opponents player better to our detriment.

Anyway, I'm all for it. Certainly a better option than the striker from Juve we've been linked with. And quite possibly better than 6M for Rhodes.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: K33NY on July 18, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
Huge talent this guy, such a hard worker and great goalscoreer when he was in Anderlecht he he comes on a loan I think we will see some nice goals this season! :D
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: NogoodBoyo on July 18, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
"I rise to state my agreement with what the distinguished member for somewhere in Wales just said. I'm very excited about having this guy. Hope it works out."
Or was Hatter talking about that other Welshie in the band, Orrgan Morrgan?
Nogood "never said nuffink, I didn't" Boyo
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 18, 2012, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.

I'm not trashing him - I hope he succeeds - he just hasn't impressed me the way that, say, Frei and Kakaniclic have and earlier, Luke Cornwall and Elliott Omusuzi did.

I'm wrong more often than I'm right.


i hope you are watching him tonight :)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 18, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2012, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.

I'm not trashing him - I hope he succeeds - he just hasn't impressed me the way that, say, Frei and Kakaniclic have and earlier, Luke Cornwall and Elliott Omusuzi did.

I'm wrong more often than I'm right.


i hope you are watching him tonight :)


Hardly possible and I assume you aren't either.

I hope he's playing well and succeeds. A couple of goals in a friendly though proves nothing.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: fulhamben on July 18, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 18, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2012, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 17, 2012, 11:43:40 AM

I have no opinion on Lukaku but I assume that Jol and his scouting team do.
ok then how many times have you seen trotta to justify your comment?

I've seen his first team appearances for Fulham such as they are and a couple of games for Wycombe.

He didn't impress at Watford but I didn't see those.

I'm not trashing him - I hope he succeeds - he just hasn't impressed me the way that, say, Frei and Kakaniclic have and earlier, Luke Cornwall and Elliott Omusuzi did.

I'm wrong more often than I'm right.


i hope you are watching him tonight :)


Hardly possible and I assume you aren't either.

I hope he's playing well and succeeds. A couple of goals in a friendly though proves nothing.
it proves more than it would by not scoring in friendlies.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 18, 2012, 07:09:42 PM

I'll be seeing us at Wycombe next week.

They've just given a trial to Ismael Ehui. He scored plenty in youth and reserve team football and played in a pre season game against Celtic. He looked good and I was impressed.

He never played a competitive first team match for us and went straight to non league.

I want ALL our young players to succeed but very few do at this level.

Whether you or I are right about Trotta will be known in a year or two. I hope you turn out to be right.
Title: Re: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: MJG on July 18, 2012, 07:11:46 PM
I have said this on twitter but what more can Trotta do. He's a young striker scoring at all levels and on loan and yet people still give him a hard time.
He deserves a run and the chance in the match day squad. We have a young striker who can score goals show some faith.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: OZ-WHITE on July 19, 2012, 02:24:18 PM
There has been some negativity about the loan for Romelu Lukaku but we need a centre forward and Romelu is a talented player if he slots in 9 or 10 goals this season and we did'nt pay for him and only paid half his wages its a solid deal

Now its likely that Deuce will be going so our attack would look like this

Duff...............................Ruiz
................  Rodallega...........
......Lukaku.....................Petric


With Trotta coming off the bench and Ruiz on the wing it looks solid enough to me

.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: mccscratch on July 19, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
He netted two goals in the friendly with Seattle last night... played well enough... but heck Eddie "The All Star" Johnson looked pretty good too... turned several defenders and created multiple chances...
Title: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: ElissonSnygg on July 21, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
According to the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet we've loaned Lukaku next season. I doubt that this is true (like they have some secret source or something). But thought I put it up just as any other rumour.

Edit: I know that a lot of rumours in Aftonbladet are from Daily Mirror, but can't find anything there about Lukaku.
Title: Re: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: MOR : on July 21, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Whole thread on it on page 2...
Title: Re: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 21, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
Old news, and Villa are the favourites now according to twitter
Title: Re: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: ElissonSnygg on July 21, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
But it says it's a done deal, which confuses me.
Title: Re: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: Burt on July 21, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
Didn't he score twice for them in a friendly a couple of days ago? I think he is staking a claim to staying put.
Title: Re: Lukaku to Fulham on loan
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 21, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
well he just scored 2 goals in their opening tour game so maybe they might keep him
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: ElissonSnygg on July 22, 2012, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 21, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
Old news, and Villa are the favourites now according to twitter
Quote from: Burt on July 21, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
Didn't he score twice for them in a friendly a couple of days ago? I think he is staking a claim to staying put.
Quote from: MasterHaynes on July 21, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
well he just scored 2 goals in their opening tour game so maybe they might keep him

Well it looks like I wasn't that wrong this morning after all: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on July 22, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
Maybe it's part of the deal with Mousse going the other way  090.gif
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: RidgeRider on July 22, 2012, 12:30:27 AM
Quote from: ElissonSnygg on July 22, 2012, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 21, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
Old news, and Villa are the favourites now according to twitter
Quote from: Burt on July 21, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
Didn't he score twice for them in a friendly a couple of days ago? I think he is staking a claim to staying put.
Quote from: MasterHaynes on July 21, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
well he just scored 2 goals in their opening tour game so maybe they might keep him

Well it looks like I wasn't that wrong this morning after all: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Maybe The Sun is reading the Swedish papers or this board.? :dft012:

Not a very wordy article either is it? Having another option up top is not a bad thing. Though the last time we borrowed one of their youngsters he ended up in France having shown very little.
Title: Re: Romelu Lukaku to join on loan for the season from Chelsea?
Post by: ElissonSnygg on July 22, 2012, 12:40:49 AM
Quote from: RidgeRider on July 22, 2012, 12:30:27 AM
Quote from: ElissonSnygg on July 22, 2012, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 21, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
Old news, and Villa are the favourites now according to twitter
Quote from: Burt on July 21, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
Didn't he score twice for them in a friendly a couple of days ago? I think he is staking a claim to staying put.
Quote from: MasterHaynes on July 21, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
well he just scored 2 goals in their opening tour game so maybe they might keep him

Well it looks like I wasn't that wrong this morning after all: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4442516/Romelu-Lukaku-to-join-Fulham-on-a-season-long-loan-deal.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Maybe The Sun is reading the Swedish papers or this board.? :dft012:

Not a very wordy article either is it? Having another option up top is not a bad thing.

Haha yeah, that'd be kinda cool though  :59:  

Sorry if the response sounded arrogant. Looking forward to hear more about the agreement tomorrow!