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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: JBH on July 18, 2012, 08:55:24 AM

Title: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: JBH on July 18, 2012, 08:55:24 AM
Could a fully fit Bryan Ruiz play the sme role as Clint Dempsey?

I think that he may be able to handle the role  065.gif
Title: Re: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: MJG on July 18, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
He can play on the left or anywhere in those forward roles. Its when you give him defensive duties it all falls down. So could he do Dempseys defensive work with Riise..I don't believe he can.
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: cottage cheese on July 18, 2012, 09:04:25 AM
i dont, most of dempseys goals have been throwing himself at crosses and smashing them in with his head. That is something that cant be taught..it was in his makeup to make those runs at corners and crosses to either tap them in or use his head. I cant see ruiz getting stuck in like dempsey did in the role.

Having said that, Ruiz would bring his own style and I think we would play more to the floor if ruiz takes over from dempsey. Which potentially could bring the goals but I dont think he would play the same role as dempsey.
Title: Re: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: MJG on July 18, 2012, 09:14:51 AM
Also its not Clint's role we need to replace, its his goals.
His role has mostly been on the left cutting inside and getting in the box.
With Frei-Kaca and Dave possibly, we have different types playing different roles. We might actually get someone attacking and taking on the right backs. Which was never Clint's game.
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: Mr Fulham on July 18, 2012, 09:15:45 AM
I'd still like us to go for Chadli. :Belgique:
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: cottage cheese on July 18, 2012, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2012, 09:14:51 AM
Also its Clint's role we need to replace, its his goals.
His role has mostly been on the left cutting inside and getting in the box.
With Frei-Kaca and Dave possibly, we have different types playing different roles. We might actually get someone attacking and taking on the right backs. Which was never Clint's game.

no it was not, but then the goals he provided and the late runs he made proved to be more effective to taking on defenders. So you are right we need to replace the goals firstly
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: ClarksOriginal on July 18, 2012, 09:36:29 AM
I don't think Ruiz is suited to playing as a winger in the PL as he was in the Eredivisie. The full-backs here are a different class and he struggles defensively.

In my opinion Ruiz's best position is in a 4231, sitting behind the striker. That way he can exploit his vision, technique and shooting prowess.

http://www.cottagersconfidential.com/2012/7/9/3147320/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-ruiz-fulham-fc (http://www.cottagersconfidential.com/2012/7/9/3147320/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-ruiz-fulham-fc)



I'd also agree with Mr Fulham, get after Chadli.
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: JimmyDunnesBum on July 18, 2012, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
So could he do Dempseys defensive work with Riise..I don't believe he can.

defence isn't clint's strongpoint - so many times he left jar exposed last season - so there is room for improvement in this area  . agree ,not sure if ruiz is the man to fix it for us though .
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: Mr_Moon on July 18, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
Could we not ask Man City for Vladimir Weiss on loan?
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: ClarksOriginal on July 18, 2012, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 18, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
Could we not ask Man City for Vladimir Weiss on loan?

Now that is a great shout.
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: Burt on July 18, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
Has Dempsey left then?
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: Mr Fulham on July 18, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 18, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
Could we not ask Man City for Vladimir Weiss on loan?

Buy him I say.
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: Azeedo on July 18, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Honestly we really don't know what Ruiz is capable of, that was the case with Dembele his first year until Jol found a position were his was able to to find his game... I think we are to quick to judge, is up to Jol to get Ruiz to the same level he was during his Twente spell, which by the way he was the star of the team above Chadli and Dejong........
Title: Re: DEMPSEY'S REPLACEMENT??
Post by: costarican white on July 18, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Azeedo on July 18, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Honestly we really don't know what Ruiz is capable of, that was the case with Dembele his first year until Jol found a position were his was able to to find his game... I think we are to quick to judge, is up to Jol to get Ruiz to the same level he was during his Twente spell, which by the way he was the star of the team above Chadli and Dejong........

Bien dicho!