for him to sing the national Anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, is it fair to call him a hypocrite for enjoying the privilege of representing Team GB, accepting an OBE from the Queen of said Country?
I wonder if he sang when he captained the England school boy team?
Yes it is. Personally I don't even know the national anthem never mind wanting to sing it. If he wants to make a point he shouldn't have accepted the OBE.
WHO CARES
Sure all he has to do is not sing
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WHO CARES
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Some people do, even if you don't, can you please have something a little more creative to say or simply don't post.
Quote from: Admin on July 29, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WHO CARES
Some people do, even if you don't, can you please have something a little more creative to say or simply don't post.
I'm not going to waste my words beyond what I have to on a subject that is so tedious now. Why do people care about whether people sing the national anthem or not, it's just finding any old excuse to have a go at players.
I felt torn when England played Wales. I would have to liked to sing both anthems but was in the England part at Wembley
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: Admin on July 29, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WHO CARES
Some people do, even if you don't, can you please have something a little more creative to say or simply don't post.
I'm not going to waste my words beyond what I have to on a subject that is so tedious now. Why do people care about whether people sing the national anthem or not, it's just finding any old excuse to have a go at players.
Well you did waste your words by typing "WHO CARES" in large capitals to make a statement. Just move along..
I object to people objecting to Giggs refusing to sing.
Over-ruled.
Nogood "m'lud" Boyo
Quote from: Admin on July 29, 2012, 08:08:08 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: Admin on July 29, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WHO CARES
Some people do, even if you don't, can you please have something a little more creative to say or simply don't post.
I'm not going to waste my words beyond what I have to on a subject that is so tedious now. Why do people care about whether people sing the national anthem or not, it's just finding any old excuse to have a go at players.
Well you did waste your words by typing "WHO CARES" in large capitals to make a statement. Just move along..
I would also say "WHO CARES?!?!??!?....but I'm fraidyscared of being castigchised by an irritated Admin :take a bow:.
Nogood "but I don't care, really, maybe Giggs sings like a potato peel, isit" Boyo
I object to people who are objecting that the objection was overruled ! "officer"
Abject objecting
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on July 29, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
I would also say "WHO CARES?!?!??!?....but I'm fraidyscared of being castigchised by an irritated Admin :take a bow:.
Nogood "but I don't care, really, maybe Giggs sings like a potato peel, isit" Boyo
I don't care either, but I do care when someone else comes along and just types WHO CARES in capitals to make a statement. If someone doesn't really care, they'll just read and move on.
I'm offering him some friendly advice.
Calm gentlemen please
Someone should of seen this coming, Pearce was always passionate about singing the national anthem, albeit the English one, it doesn't really show a togetherness when so many don't sing, but maybe they should change the GB anthem to rule Britania or something
Other than that I agree with Admin
I'm adding to the "don't cares".
It's just a national anthem.
Sing it if you want to. Don't sing it if you don't want to - this isn't North Korea.
How much passion are we required to show? Shall we make our athletes weep with joy too?
While we're at it, how do the Northern Ireland athletes feel about playing for Team GB? Why isn't it Team UK?
I'm Welsh and while I am extremely pro royalist and feel very British I do not and could not sing God Save The Queen as it is the English National Anthem. I am not english, nor will I ever be, nor would I want to and I would say the feeling would probably be mutual with the majority of english people.
If there was an anthem that was different to the English one for Great Britain I would happily sing along.
However there is not. So why when the kingdom unites should the celtic nations be expected to tow the line and sing along joyfully?
Do you think the English boys would sing along to Flower of Scotland or Land of My Fathers if they were the overarching British anthems?
Also from a political (Ed hold back the keys) point of view given the eagerness of Mr Blatter to reduce British influence in FIFA any sign of weakness that potentially gives him the opportunity to merge FA's (even with his assurances I am still sceptical) must be avoided.
The Scots and Northern Irish elected to make their statement by not becoming involved at all. The Welsh have sent out a clear signal that we are not England by not singing along merrily.
Can't you all just be thankful that we came along given all the standout players have been welsh brits.
Whilst Team GB are standing around arguing over the rights and wrongs of whether to sing God Save The Queen, UAE storm through and slot in an equaliser
Quote from: The Doctor on July 29, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
Whilst Team GB are standing around arguing over the rights and wrongs of whether to sing God Save The Queen, UAE storm through and slot in an equaliser
Good goal, poor english defending...
If your boys had sung the bloody anthem, our lads wouldn't have needed to berate them and could therefore have focussed on the game.
Haven't seen the standings, but hope there's still something for us to play for on Wednesday
Quote from: The Doctor on July 29, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
If your boys had sung the bloody anthem, our lads wouldn't have needed to berate them and could therefore have focussed on the game.
Haven't seen the standings, but hope there's still something for us to play for on Wednesday
So long as we draw tonight a win will see us through on Wednesday, a win and we need a point
Either way, will be tricky enough. I'm sure Uruguay will have been stung by their results so far. Must admit it was well funny watching Suarez moaning on earlier...I like to think that Senegal have got some small measure of vengence for Ghana's WC 2010 exit.
Get in...we've bundled it in. An English lad playing for a Welsh club. How unifying
The Welsh players are probably the better players, that's only because Pearce picked the only decent welsh players on the whole planet where he has picked some of the worst English players ;-)
The Queen is still head of Great Britain I believe so why can't they sing God Save the Queen isn't it boyos;-)
Wooo, an Englishman playing at Swansea scores a goal from a cross by a Welshman playing at Liverpool.
Oh look, as soon as a decent English player comes on we score ;-)
Danny Sturridge thinks he's Ruiz. 3-1
Quote from: os5889 on July 29, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
Wooo, an Englishman playing at Swansea scores a goal from a cross by a Welshman playing at Liverpool.
An Englishman playing at Swansea in THE ENGLISH LEAGUE ;-)
Quote from: SouthfieldWhite on July 29, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
The Welsh players are probably the better players, that's only because Pearce picked the only decent welsh players on the whole planet where he has picked some of the worst English players ;-)
The Queen is still head of Great Britain I believe so why can't they sing God Save the Queen isn't it boyos;-)
I know, but unfortunately its also the English anthem too, big problem that.
3-1, great goal
Some footballers don't sing the anthem because it helps them to stay level and 'in the zone.' That's absolutely fine and I'm sure that they're proud of their country. It makes me a bit uneasy, though, to witness many Scots and Welsh footballers (both male and female) refusing to sing the anthem on the grounds that they are 'very Scottish' or Welsh (as Kim Little did.) Great Britain is not just English.
Then again, it's a very personal choice and we shouldn't have to impose pride onto these people. They're professional athletes. We can't do anything about it. I just hope that they're proud to represent their country. It's be great if England could have a separate anthem, though, such as 'Jerusalem.'
I'm sorry but singing God save the queen in front of the world would threaten the independence of bothe the welsh and english FA's.
That bitter Blatter would do anything he could to manoeuvre more power to his cronies.
In my opinion singing the anthem and showing complete union would lead to our special arrangement of 4 FA's in the United Kingdom being withdrawn and then it wouldn't be so fun would it.
Noone else in the World has it...
Quote from: Oiseau on July 29, 2012, 09:20:14 PM
Some footballers don't sing the anthem because it helps them to say level and 'in the zone.' That's absolutely fine and I'm sure that they're proud of their country. It makes me a bit uneasy, though, to witness many Scots and Welsh footballers (both male and female) refusing to sing the anthem on the grounds that they are 'very Scottish' or Welsh (as Kim Little did.) Great Britain is not just English.
Then again, it's a very personal choice and we shouldn't have to impose pride onto these people. They're professional athletes. We can't do anything about it. I just hope that they're proud to represent their country. It's be great if England could have a separate anthem, though, such as 'Jerusalem.'
I did want to suggest Jerusalem as its always refreshing to hear at the cricket, but I'm sure having it as the anthem would get the PC brigade out in force given its religious leanings.
Quote from: os5889 on July 29, 2012, 09:27:29 PM
I did want to suggest Jerusalem as its always refreshing to hear at the cricket, but I'm sure having it as the anthem would get the PC brigade out in force given its religious leanings.
There's always Pomp & Circumstance No 1/Land of Hope and Glory
Quote from: The Doctor on July 29, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: os5889 on July 29, 2012, 09:27:29 PM
I did want to suggest Jerusalem as its always refreshing to hear at the cricket, but I'm sure having it as the anthem would get the PC brigade out in force given its religious leanings.
There's always Pomp & Circumstance No 1/Land of Hope and Glory
WE SHALL OVERCOME
We shall overcome, we shall overcome,
we shall overcome some day;
Oh! Deep in my heart I do believe,
we shall overcome some day.
We'll walk hand in hand, . . .
We are not afraid, . . . today . . .
The truth shall make us free . . .
We shall live in peace . . .
Quote from: os5889 on July 29, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
I'm sorry but singing God save the queen in front of the world would threaten the independence of bothe the welsh and english FA's.
That bitter Blatter would do anything he could to manoeuvre more power to his cronies.
In my opinion singing the anthem and showing complete union would lead to our special arrangement of 4 FA's in the United Kingdom being withdrawn and then it wouldn't be so fun would it.
Noone else in the World has it...
Hasn't Blatter actually said that it's extremely unlikely that they'll look into merging the British and Northern Irish teams? I don't exactly trust him myself either but it is promising.
Land of Hope and Glory would be better. It still has cries of imperialism in it, but the piece itself is better than God Save the Queen which is full of the outdated concepts of religion and monarchism.
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Land of Hope and Glory would be better. It still has cries of imperialism in it, but the piece itself is better than God Save the Queen which is full of the outdated concepts of religion and monarchism.
No reason the words have to be included. Just use Elgar's orginal composition. Plenty of nations have an instrumental anthem and the music in that piece is evocative enough IMO.
Quote from: The Doctor on July 29, 2012, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Land of Hope and Glory would be better. It still has cries of imperialism in it, but the piece itself is better than God Save the Queen which is full of the outdated concepts of religion and monarchism.
No reason the words have to be included. Just use Elgar's orginal composition. Plenty of nations have an instrumental anthem and the music in that piece is evocative enough IMO.
Good point. It's a good tune to hum to though, can we hum?
Would sound a bit weird. You can bob up and down like Prommers if you want. That'd psyche Johnny Foreigner right out to see all of Wembley doing that in unison
What's that other Elgar piece that's played alot, think it was in the film Elizabeth, and one i think is absolutely bueatiful
Without wishing to cause disharmony ...he!he!... I would like to point out that the sixth verse of God Save the Queen is;
Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.
I wonder why the Scots don't sing it? Mind you not many people sing it these days.
...of course the last line nowadays would be 'God save the Queen'...
The Spanish never sing their anthem. :hook:
All members of national teams should be made to take full part in pre-match ceremonies whatever their personal feelings. You can't possibly go wrong that way:
(http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ARSEhapgood1.jpg)
England v Germany Berlin May 1938
Quote from: Berserker on July 29, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
What's that other Elgar piece that's played alot, think it was in the film Elizabeth, and one i think is absolutely bueatiful
Nimrod:-
Edward Elgar - Nimrod (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhnMd1Jl7SA#)
I am a Scot. I see no way the Scots can support the singing of a song which celebrates the Engish royals. It is nothing personal (with most Scots) but given the history it is hard for many to accept. Fact is, it is not any personal hatred or jealousy. Scotland just does not care about joint football ventures. I believe Scotland and Northern Ireland chose not to be part of this, but I could be wrong. Despite the recent peace in Ireland, can you imagine the trouble this might have caused with some people. The Scots would just ignore it, even if say, Bannan and Rhodes had been selected..
So, what did we end up with? An English team, (and a couple of ageing Welshmen, OK 5 Welsh) with an English manager, playing at Wembley and singing the English national anthem.
I watched today's game and enjoyed it and have to say I felt neutral. The Brasil game (what I saw of it) was miles better.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on July 29, 2012, 08:19:58 PM
I object to people objecting to Giggs refusing to sing.
Me too.
I may have mentioned this before.
Where have you all gone?
Oh well I will say it again. WTF are we doing singing National Anthems and appearing under flags of Nations. It made sense when the Olympic Games were amateur but now it makes no sense. Tennis,soon to be Golf and Football amongst other sports have slowly made the Olympic Gold Medal just another part of the Pro Calender.
So Team Olympics must take over from this silly Nation pride.
Re Giggs - I just object to the Welsh per se :015:
Oooh, I see a four-fingered Welsh longbowman launching his arrow right up into Lofty's bulb in his Repunszel house by Bognor.
And just to confuse the gabardene masses further, when I post a letter home, I have to put GB on it, but when I list my country of origin on immigration forms I have to use the abbreviation, UK.
And my pasaporte says that I am a "subject" of THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND.
Nogood "identity crisis or branding balls-up, isit" Boyo
Say, I have a novel (if not naive) idea to end all this silly fuss surrounding 'Team GB':
How about England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland just stop this charade and become independent sovereign nations?
How the hell did my bulb get broken? Oh well must send for more hair extensions.
Quote from: jarv on July 29, 2012, 11:01:45 PM
I am a Scot. I see no way the Scots can support the singing of a song which celebrates the Engish royals. It is nothing personal (with most Scots) but given the history it is hard for many to accept. Fact is, it is not any personal hatred or jealousy. Scotland just does not care about joint football ventures. I believe Scotland and Northern Ireland chose not to be part of this, but I could be wrong. Despite the recent peace in Ireland, can you imagine the trouble this might have caused with some people. The Scots would just ignore it, even if say, Bannan and Rhodes had been selected..
So, what did we end up with? An English team, (and a couple of ageing Welshmen, OK 5 Welsh) with an English manager, playing at Wembley and singing the English national anthem.
I watched today's game and enjoyed it and have to say I felt neutral. The Brasil game (what I saw of it) was miles better.
I'm English but neither a royalist nor a christian and, like you Jarv, I cannot relate whatever to a dreary dirge that celebrates both. Neither are the royals "English": the Tudors were Welsh, the Stuarts Scottish, the Plantagenates French, the "Windsors" German x Russian - the English royal line ended years before that lot.
What every country needs is a secular song of which they can feel proud (the Scolts and Welsh seem to have theirs, ours is sadly lacking except for the rather overlooked Land of Hope and Glory) and maybe an overall one for the whole UK. "Jerusalem" for England - I think not!
Quote from: jarv on July 29, 2012, 11:01:45 PM
I am a Scot. I see no way the Scots can support the singing of a song which celebrates the Engish royals. It is nothing personal (with most Scots) but given the history it is hard for many to accept. Fact is, it is not any personal hatred or jealousy. Scotland just does not care about joint football ventures. I believe Scotland and Northern Ireland chose not to be part of this, but I could be wrong. Despite the recent peace in Ireland, can you imagine the trouble this might have caused with some people. The Scots would just ignore it, even if say, Bannan and Rhodes had been selected..
So, what did we end up with? An English team, (and a couple of ageing Welshmen, OK 5 Welsh) with an English manager, playing at Wembley and singing the English national anthem.
I watched today's game and enjoyed it and have to say I felt neutral. The Brasil game (what I saw of it) was miles better.
Even if the Scottish FA had let their players be considered for selection to the GB squad none of the current crop would have made it into the team because they just aren't good enougth 065.gif
Does it really matter whether he sang it or not? There was a time when none of the Belgian players would sing our anthem (beautiful by the way, with fairly neutral lyrics) and nobody really made a fuss. I think that if no journalist would have asked a question about it, nobody would have 'noticed'. This is like looking for a stick to beat someone...
As has been said already "God save the Queen" is the anthem for the united kingdoms, even with verse 6, which is my favorite :005: :005:
As an Englishman I would much prefer Land of Hope and Glory when England play & GSTQ when we compete as GB/UK.
Anyway if the SNP win their referendum all this will be academic in a few Olympics time :scarf:
Quote from: fulham pete on July 30, 2012, 09:34:03 AM
As has been said already "God save the Queen" is the anthem for the united kingdoms, even with verse 6, which is my favorite :005: :005:
As an Englishman I would much prefer Land of Hope and Glory when England play & GSTQ when we compete as GB/UK.
Anyway if the SNP win their referendum all this will be academic in a few Olympics time :scarf:
Being English I would actually prefer the Hokey Kokey as the anthem 098.gif
Quote from: JBH on July 30, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
Being English I would actually prefer the Hokey Kokey as the anthem 098.gif
Agree entirely.
As a Athiest Republican I certainly wouldn't sing our national anthem.
Quote from: timmyg on July 30, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
Say, I have a novel (if not naive) idea to end all this silly fuss surrounding 'Team GB':
How about England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland just stop this charade and become independent sovereign nations?
Ha ha! Can't foresee any problems!
The Scots (some of them) want independence. There is a referendum coming up soon-ish.
The Northern Irish - well... some of them are rather passionate about staying in the UK. Some the opposite.
The Welsh? Actually the Welsh don't want independence, do they?
I (personally) don't see much gain for anyone with a break-up of the union.
The Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish would be economically poorer.
England would be stuck with being English and successive Tory governments.
If the English were allowed their own National Anthem as Scotland and Wales singing the National Anthem wouldn't cause such a problem. I despair of this Country at times all other Nations are proud of their National Flag and Anthems, and fly their flags with pride. Rant over!
Our national anthem is about how great our monarch is. Hardly stirring stuff compared to most others.
How about an anthem that is a combination of the Countys. So when say England and Northern Ireland are involved in one team we could have one anthem. Or if the Scots and Welsh are in a team we could have another. 080.gif
Or an anthem without words would work. The theme to Black Beauty or the Persuaders. fp.gif
Forget about religion causing wars. Invented borders cause wars. SORT IT OUT WORLD.
That's not his fault it's the fault of the british institution which takes in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to not make them feel like they're part of Britain and that the queen is their monarch too - representing them etc.
The arguement of her being English and not welsh too is entirely void as she's German/English...
I feel, as a scot by blood, with a bit of Irish and English in me and having been brought up in England to be completely in support of our monarchy - I feel she represents me and I'm proud to have her be my voice on the international stage - moreso than any politician.
Living in London brings it into a more poignant focus but I don't think i'd change it. I can see why Scots and Welsh don't want it, but a large number of those countries do... it's personal preference but I can imagine in time a giggs of the future may not share gigg's sentiments.
Quote from: JBH on July 30, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
Being English I would actually prefer the Hokey Kokey as the anthem 098.gif
"Manamana" by the muppets for me
Quote from: King_Crud on July 30, 2012, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: JBH on July 30, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
Being English I would actually prefer the Hokey Kokey as the anthem 098.gif
"Manamana" by the muppets for me
That or this:
Kermit the Frog - Lime in the Coconut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wg_L0wGTyA#)
Rooney's good at it too-says alot .Some are nationalistic only when it comes to state handouts others pay for.
Our anthem is great.
Short, but stirring.
And all the above just goes to show how far politics and all its trappings should be kept away from sport...
Most countries manage to screw up their national anthems anyway. Italy and Spain are quite jolly, but most of the rest are either dirge-like or over- aggressive, or both. I kind of like the US anthem (it certainly gets plenty of air time - I suspect that Pete Rose must be vying with our own HM for the record of "Most Times Listened To Own National Anthem") but it's impossible to sing it, unless you undergo a castration just before the bombs start bursting in air.
My favourite Nat Anthem story is that of East Germany (DDR), an excellent tune as I remember it. Somebody realised that some of its words could be construed as advocating a united Germany, so the citizens of this freedom-loving country were banned, under pain of arrest by the Stasi, from singing the words of their own National Anthem!
When the Aussies decided to ditch GSTQ as their National Anthem, it disappointed me that they lacked the bottle to choose the obvious national song, and instead went for the bland New Candralia job they use today. The mistake was shown most obviously when, at the last knockings of the closing ceremony of the Sydney Olympics, a 75 year old geezer (Slim Dusty) shuffled on with a guitar and led the assembled masses in an unforgettable version of 'Waltzing Matilda' It even brought tears to my eyes - and I've never been nearer to Australia than Earl's Court.
The history of national anthems by cmg - a highly entertaining essay! Well done that man.
Nogood "mae hen gwlad fy'n hadau, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Meerkat on July 30, 2012, 10:31:34 AM
If the English were allowed their own National Anthem as Scotland and Wales singing the National Anthem wouldn't cause such a problem. I despair of this Country at times all other Nations are proud of their National Flag and Anthems, and fly their flags with pride. Rant over!
Quite right. It saddens me when people from other parts of the UK refer to GSTQ as "the English" national anthem, it isn't! It's the anthem of the UK as a whole for the time being, like it or not. As an Englishman I'm as ashamed of it as Mr Giggs.
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: Admin on July 29, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on July 29, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WHO CARES
Some people do, even if you don't, can you please have something a little more creative to say or simply don't post.
I'm not going to waste my words beyond what I have to on a subject that is so tedious now. Why do people care about whether people sing the national anthem or not, it's just finding any old excuse to have a go at players.
If you really didn't care, you wouldn't comment on it, rather than commenting on why you are not commenting (by commenting).
I quite like Greece's and, of course, France's -- but I prefer ALL national anthems (a) to be instrumental and (b) NOT played at sporting events.
As to the individual nations, I was surprised to hear that athletes from Northern Ireland were competing under the rubric "Team GB." It would seem that it's GB and not UK specifically to exclude them.
On the other foot, we're one of about 60 or so countries in The Americas, but the only one that routinely calls itself America and its citizens Americans, so I guess we've got no right to question what I just questioned. :Get Coat gif:
I have not read every comment, but the game in Cardiff should open with Land of my fathers as a mark of respect to the Welsh players in the team and the local supporters. Might increase the attendance too.
Quote from: jarv on July 30, 2012, 06:41:20 PM
I have not read every comment, but the game in Cardiff should open with Land of my fathers as a mark of respect to the Welsh players in the team and the local supporters. Might increase the attendance too.
Would seem to be pandering to them a little bit? It's no more theirs than it is Englands or Scotlands. The GB anthem is 'God Save the Queen' so let's play that and be done with it.
Quote from: HatterDon on July 30, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
As to the individual nations, I was surprised to hear that athletes from Northern Ireland were competing under the rubric "Team GB." It would seem that it's GB and not UK specifically to exclude them.
See, I see that from completely the opposing perspective. Officially, the country is called "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" so to my mind the adoption of "Team GB" seems more exclusive of NI than "Team UK" just because of the wording in the country name.
That said, I've no idea why "Team GB" is the preferred name...I guess because it's more natural to say that we're British than UKish or UKers (which leaves itself open to casual obscene mocking!)
Quote from: The Doctor on July 30, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on July 30, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
As to the individual nations, I was surprised to hear that athletes from Northern Ireland were competing under the rubric "Team GB." It would seem that it's GB and not UK specifically to exclude them.
See, I see that from completely the opposing perspective. Officially, the country is called "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" so to my mind the adoption of "Team GB" seems more exclusive of NI than "Team UK" just because of the wording in the country name.
That said, I've no idea why "Team GB" is the preferred name...I guess because it's more natural to say that we're British than UKish or UKers (which leaves itself open to casual obscene mocking!)
i think the team name is full is 'great britain and northern ireland', abbreviated to 'team gb'. that explains how NI can be included, but i agree it's weird that they don't just call it 'united kingdom' and 'team uk'
some prat at an ad agency thought it was "cool" to use team GB
This would be a perfect time to whip out "Rule Britannia", ya know, as in Prydain Fawr or Breatainn Mhòr!
Quote from: LordNelson on July 30, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
This would be a perfect time to whip out "Rule Britannia", ya know, as in Prydain Fawr or Breatainn Mhòr!
That would be fine for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish but, strictly speaking, the English aren't actually ethnically "Britons" except for inhabiting the island of that name.
Quote from: Holders on July 30, 2012, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: LordNelson on July 30, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
This would be a perfect time to whip out "Rule Britannia", ya know, as in Prydain Fawr or Breatainn Mhòr!
That would be fine for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish but, strictly speaking, the English aren't actually ethnically "Britons" except for inhabiting the island of that name.
I personally think I have some Viking origins
Quote from: Berserker on July 30, 2012, 11:11:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 30, 2012, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: LordNelson on July 30, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
This would be a perfect time to whip out "Rule Britannia", ya know, as in Prydain Fawr or Breatainn Mhòr!
That would be fine for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish but, strictly speaking, the English aren't actually ethnically "Britons" except for inhabiting the island of that name.
I personally think I have some Viking origins
With a name like Berserker, I would hope you have!
