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Title: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 20, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
The season we finished 7th under Roy we scored 39 goals? We scored 5 on sat which we didn't really do under Roy.

Would be interesting to compare the differentiation in results between Hodgson, Hughes and Jol though. Under Hodgson, we kind of laboured against the poor teams but performed very well against the good ones. Hughes was good against poor teams, not very good vs the better teams and Jol has a bit of a mixed bag.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: NogoodBoyo on August 21, 2012, 02:43:45 AM
I don't know jack, but I do find it odd, I do.
Nogood "odd todd, itis" Boyo
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: nose on August 21, 2012, 10:48:02 AM
Roy's teams were very organised and imensely suited to european style football but in my opinion were very dull. We rarely looked in much danger at the back but rarely broke from defence flooding forward. On saturday it was refreshing to see how quickly we turned defence into attack and how many players got forward to join in.
I suspect we will take one or two beatings of a kind we would never have expected from a roy team, but already under jol we have had a few very impressive big wins, and i suspect we will become a much more attacking, attractive side. As long as we score one more than the opposition I am in favour.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: HatterDon on August 21, 2012, 04:52:26 PM
What I enjoyed is that -- occasionally -- we broke quickly in counter attack. I know that "route 1 football" is frowned upon, but it does make a nice change of pace from what we did last year: pass the ball sideways 8 or 10 times until the opponents got back in their half of the pitch and in position. It was pretty to watch, but very easy to defend.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: Scrumpy on August 21, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on August 21, 2012, 04:52:26 PM
What I enjoyed is that -- occasionally -- we broke quickly in counter attack. I know that "route 1 football" is frowned upon, but it does make a nice change of pace from what we did last year: pass the ball sideways 8 or 10 times until the opponents got back in their half of the pitch and in position. It was pretty to watch, but very easy to defend.

Exactly this. Jol has spoken in pre-season with the lads about 'mixing it up'. Last season was all very pretty, but all went down the middle of the field with never an option out wide. And as you say HD, too slow to really catch defences out. The long diagonal ball from Diarra or Hangeland to an on-rushing full back is creating a shed load of chances for us now. This began to work well towards the end of last season, once Riise got his fitness back, and has got better and better since.

I have to say that I am enjoying watching the present team (ie from about Christmas last year to date) more than any other since the Tigana Championship season. Is it too early to start worrying about the fact that Jol's contract only runs to the end of this season?  fp.gif
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 21, 2012, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on August 21, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on August 21, 2012, 04:52:26 PM
What I enjoyed is that -- occasionally -- we broke quickly in counter attack. I know that "route 1 football" is frowned upon, but it does make a nice change of pace from what we did last year: pass the ball sideways 8 or 10 times until the opponents got back in their half of the pitch and in position. It was pretty to watch, but very easy to defend.

Exactly this. Jol has spoken in pre-season with the lads about 'mixing it up'. Last season was all very pretty, but all went down the middle of the field with never an option out wide. And as you say HD, too slow to really catch defences out. The long diagonal ball from Diarra or Hangeland to an on-rushing full back is creating a shed load of chances for us now. This began to work well towards the end of last season, once Riise got his fitness back, and has got better and better since.

I have to say that I am enjoying watching the present team (ie from about Christmas last year to date) more than any other since the Tigana Championship season. Is it too early to start worrying about the fact that Jol's contract only runs to the end of this season?  fp.gif

Dont worry - the club have an option for a further year on Jol, so unless there is a disaster, I am sure he will be staying.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: Berserker on August 21, 2012, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 21, 2012, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on August 21, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on August 21, 2012, 04:52:26 PM
What I enjoyed is that -- occasionally -- we broke quickly in counter attack. I know that "route 1 football" is frowned upon, but it does make a nice change of pace from what we did last year: pass the ball sideways 8 or 10 times until the opponents got back in their half of the pitch and in position. It was pretty to watch, but very easy to defend.

Exactly this. Jol has spoken in pre-season with the lads about 'mixing it up'. Last season was all very pretty, but all went down the middle of the field with never an option out wide. And as you say HD, too slow to really catch defences out. The long diagonal ball from Diarra or Hangeland to an on-rushing full back is creating a shed load of chances for us now. This began to work well towards the end of last season, once Riise got his fitness back, and has got better and better since.

I have to say that I am enjoying watching the present team (ie from about Christmas last year to date) more than any other since the Tigana Championship season. Is it too early to start worrying about the fact that Jol's contract only runs to the end of this season?  fp.gif

Dont worry - the club have an option for a further year on Jol, so unless there is a disaster, I am sure he will be staying.

I had an discussion with a Chelsea fan yesterday who said he didn't see a problem with changing managers every year. He said that people critize Chelsea for it but they have won more trophies than anybody else, plus it hasn't done any harm to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: SP3 on August 21, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
Makes a bit of a difference though if you can buy pretty much whoever the new bloke wants.
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: Berserker on August 21, 2012, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: SP3 on August 21, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
Makes a bit of a difference though if you can buy pretty much whoever the new bloke wants.

Very true
Title: Re: anyone else find it odd?
Post by: Scrumpy on August 21, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
Dont worry - the club have an option for a further year on Jol, so unless there is a disaster, I am sure he will be staying.


Ah, that's good news. Cheers.