Poll
Question:
We are about to sign an Arsenal stricker- Park Chu Young?
Option 1: likely
votes: 4
Option 2: unlikely
votes: 24
I have a Korean friend and he said that all Korean papers now say Pack chu Young is moving to Craven cottage. This rumor seems to have reliable source. We replace Dempsey with Park. It is likely...
Never heard of him!
Blackburn were interested in buying him. Sounds our level.
There was the rumour on here before, think Admin might have fiound it somewhere from Korean sources (sorry if it was someone else). have also read that Wenger is unlikley to play him, so its a possible. Probably not the 'big target man' that is missing from our squad line up, but probably quick. I think he's quite young (not just his name) as well.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 29, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
Blackburn were interested in buying him. Sounds our level.
I'm hoping this is sarcasm.
Heard he was going on loan to Celta Vigo.
talented, but a bit lightweight for the premier league
My friend said that Korean papers said that we need to sign him for the club's asian marketing and we are desperate to find a stricker who can replace Dempsey.
We had LG which was a Korean sponsor and had a Korean player... Park is quite good though..
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on August 29, 2012, 09:32:02 AM
Heard he was going on loan to Celta Vigo.
Celta vigo just gave up and we will have him ; Spanish papers said yesterday.
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on August 29, 2012, 09:30:16 AM
There was the rumour on here before, think Admin might have fiound it somewhere from Korean sources (sorry if it was someone else). have also read that Wenger is unlikley to play him, so its a possible. Probably not the 'big target man' that is missing from our squad line up, but probably quick. I think he's quite young (not just his name) as well.
I think he is 27 mate
What does a sricker do?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 29, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
Blackburn were interested in buying him. Sounds our level.
Urm, it was a while ago.. I heard we launched 3.5m bid for him. It was not a Korean source.
We neeed midfielders JOL!!!
Park was very good for Monaco. Got pace, can finish, brutally thumped out of the Arsenal first team for no reason.
He will be part of a deal taking Dempsey the other way
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
He will be part of a deal taking Dempsey the other way
Nice to see we are all so positive about life isnt it.
We need forwards badly but need player types we haven't got in the side. Others will know about him more than I do. We need wide players and again Richardson fits in that role. But I need to be real about out ambitions now. We have reached as far as we are ever going to go. So naturally one is saddened that we have reached the highest level we are ever going to reach. My bad for having ambitions above our station.
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
He will be part of a deal taking Dempsey the other way
Lee Chung-Yong from Bolton would be a better bet.
Quote from: Fusili on August 29, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
He will be part of a deal taking Dempsey the other way
Lee Chung-Yong from Bolton would be a better bet.
He would be great. Major reason they went down cos he was out. Is he fit again?
Quote from: beijing ben on August 29, 2012, 10:30:41 AM
Quote from: Fusili on August 29, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
He will be part of a deal taking Dempsey the other way
Lee Chung-Yong from Bolton would be a better bet.
He would be great. Major reason they went down cos he was out. Is he fit again?
He is fit again, but the player we will sign would be Park not Lee.
Sky Sports understands Fulham have made enquires for West Ham midfielder Mark Noble. #FFC #WHUFC
Thoughts?
Yes please, young, British and a very good player.
1 year left on contract, can see this happening.
Please make this happen. We need something!
Decent player but will no doubt be over priced!
I'd take him, but your probably right JBH he will be over priced.
Defensive playmaker, more in the mould of Danny Murphy.
I'd be happy with this.
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 10:38:55 AM
Decent player but will no doubt be over priced!
One year left on his contract.
Hes West Ham to the bone though!! Not sure if he'd wanna leave
Doesnt really get the pulse racing. Massive step down from Dembele. Dont really see the point of replacing our better players with lesser ones. Whatever though... Past caring now.
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Based on the quality of the players we had at the begining of the transfer window this guy would've only ever been a squad player. It's official, we're going backwards... looks like we'll need another Hodgson miracle now.
Dembele was a one off. It will be very very difficult to replace him
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
As you father is a West Ham fan it is his right to moan about Noble just as we moan about our players all the time.
But as was said ealier, he would not be a direct replacement for Moussa just an addition to the squad to replace the likes of MUrphy/Etuhu etc
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Dembele was a one off. It will be very very difficult to replace him
What about approching Real Madrid to get Kaka on loan?
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Dembele was a one off. It will be very very difficult to replace him
What about approching Real Madrid to get Kaka on loan?
Sure, why not?
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Then where would noble play? The big mistake is to put him on the wing. He plays in the middle for west ham. However, we already have ruiz in the advanced position and again as we have seen he does not play well on the wing either.
Noble is only 24 or 25 and will want first team football so this singing would not have come off had dembele remained i think.
Noble under Jol has the potential to be very different to Noble under Allardyce, Curbishley or whoever.
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
thats probably because of sam allerdyce's long ball bypass midfield tactics.
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Then where would noble play? The big mistake is to put him on the wing. He plays in the middle for west ham. However, we already have ruiz in the advanced position and again as we have seen he does not play well on the wing either.
Noble is only 24 or 25 and will want first team football so this singing would not have come off had dembele remained i think.
Oh I don't know, how about central midfield, as well as covering other positions? Thats a relevation! A player who can play more than one position...
We've been interested in Noble for a long time, we're moving for him now because last year of his contract, push for the end of the window=lower price. Brinkmanship.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: JBH on August 29, 2012, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Dembele was a one off. It will be very very difficult to replace him
What about approching Real Madrid to get Kaka on loan?
Sure, why not?
I could need some excitement yes !
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Then where would noble play? The big mistake is to put him on the wing. He plays in the middle for west ham. However, we already have ruiz in the advanced position and again as we have seen he does not play well on the wing either.
Noble is only 24 or 25 and will want first team football so this singing would not have come off had dembele remained i think.
Oh I don't know, how about central midfield, as well as covering other positions? Thats a relevation! A player who can play more than one position...
We've been interested in Noble for a long time, we're moving for him now because last year of his contract, push for the end of the window=lower price. Brinkmanship.
Then why have we gone in for him after we have sold dembele...we have had all summer to bed him in? The price would have been cheaper at the start as West ham will now need to find someone etc...it just baffles me if he was a target like you said, why have we left it so late? Maybe the funds coming in from dembele? That suggests then he is coming in to fill his void
I very much doubt this will happen. He's West Ham through and through, a type of player we sadly don't have. A player who is actually a fan of his football club.
And yes, apparently he doesn't want to move.
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Then where would noble play? The big mistake is to put him on the wing. He plays in the middle for west ham. However, we already have ruiz in the advanced position and again as we have seen he does not play well on the wing either.
Noble is only 24 or 25 and will want first team football so this singing would not have come off had dembele remained i think.
Oh I don't know, how about central midfield, as well as covering other positions? Thats a relevation! A player who can play more than one position...
We've been interested in Noble for a long time, we're moving for him now because last year of his contract, push for the end of the window=lower price. Brinkmanship.
Then why have we gone in for him after we have sold dembele...we have had all summer to bed him in? The price would have been cheaper at the start as West ham will now need to find someone etc...it just baffles me if he was a target like you said, why have we left it so late? Maybe the funds coming in from dembele? That suggests then he is coming in to fill his void
You've just ignored what I've said about Brinkmanship. Players values don't go up at the end of the window, especially if theres one year left on the contract.
Noble in a Fulham shirt or a West Ham shirt on Upton Park saturday?
Only god knows.
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 29, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM
massive step down. Dembele had the ability to win the ball back and then run past 3 players. We need a player of this mould if we want any chance of finishing top ten.
My father is a west ham fan and moans about noble and his ability to drift in and out of games. Really does not get me excited
AGAIN, Noble is not the dembele replacement.
Nothing gets you at the moment. Mark my words, its the bankruptcy/blue square south/ 1,000 fans/ Al-Fayed leaving, you name it, its happening. 092.gif
We're not being renamed Fulham Park Rangers, we're not having Craven Cottage taken away. We've sold a player. People.
Then where would noble play? The big mistake is to put him on the wing. He plays in the middle for west ham. However, we already have ruiz in the advanced position and again as we have seen he does not play well on the wing either.
Noble is only 24 or 25 and will want first team football so this singing would not have come off had dembele remained i think.
Oh I don't know, how about central midfield, as well as covering other positions? Thats a relevation! A player who can play more than one position...
We've been interested in Noble for a long time, we're moving for him now because last year of his contract, push for the end of the window=lower price. Brinkmanship.
Then why have we gone in for him after we have sold dembele...we have had all summer to bed him in? The price would have been cheaper at the start as West ham will now need to find someone etc...it just baffles me if he was a target like you said, why have we left it so late? Maybe the funds coming in from dembele? That suggests then he is coming in to fill his void
You've just ignored what I've said about Brinkmanship. Players values don't go up at the end of the window, especially if theres one year left on the contract.
I havnt ignored just I was just backing up my theory. If noble was always part of the plan then why have we left it so late? It would be wiser to have got him in before the season started. I just think he wil be coming into replace dembele thats all. Each to their own opinion! ha
With so little time left, will the plan go to plan?
Not sure why he would want to leave the club he loves.
It would be a good signing, but I can't see beyond this just being another lazy rumour.
According to the Head of Sport at the Daily Mail, Lee Clayton, West Ham are open to any offers and in fact would encourage them as apparently Allardyce doesn't rate him.
I hope we don't sign him. I've lived in Korea for about 9 years and have seen him a lot. He is not good enough for the Premier League, which is why Arsenal never use him despite not having enough strikers. He gets in good positions but has a poor first touch and never seems to shoot on target. He wouldn't be great for marketing either as Koreans hate him over his military service delay. Besides Koreans are not the type to buy shirts or attend matches. Only a few thousand showed up for the 2008 pre-season tour and most were ex-pats.
...welcome Fulham Gentleman, and I appreciate your comments and insight. When we had Seol Ki-Hyeon we received no support from Koreans despite New Malden (which has one of the worlds largest Korean population outside of Korea) being around the corner from Motspur Park and a 265 bus ride away from Fulham...
Quote from: Fulham Gentleman on August 29, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
I hope we don't sign him. I've lived in Korea for about 9 years and have seen him a lot. He is not good enough for the Premier League, which is why Arsenal never use him despite not having enough strikers. He gets in good positions but has a poor first touch and never seems to shoot on target. He wouldn't be great for marketing either as Koreans hate him over his military service delay. Besides Koreans are not the type to buy shirts or attend matches. Only a few thousand showed up for the 2008 pre-season tour and most were ex-pats.
Thanks. The problem is the club does not know what you know. Why don't you email the club to let them the truth? I also heard that a lot Koreans hate him. It would not be a good idea to sign him then. I talked with a scottish Fulham supporter just now and he said he heard this rumor from the club. If it is true, the club has no idea about him. It's a problem.
Quote from: LBNo11 on August 29, 2012, 12:04:58 PM
...welcome Fulham Gentleman, and I appreciate your comments and insight. When we had Seol Ki-Hyeon we received no support from Koreans despite New Malden (which has one of the worlds largest Korean population outside of Korea) being around the corner from Motspur Park and a 265 bus ride away from Fulham...
Cheers. I met Seol Gihyeon, and most of the team, during the 2008 Korea tour. He was the only one I personally did not like. Koreans are not football supporters in general, but tend to go for big brand names. Not surprising Koreans in London do not support the team well.
Quote from: fulhamate on August 29, 2012, 12:12:18 PM
Quote from: Fulham Gentleman on August 29, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
Thanks. The problem is the club does not know what you know. Why don't you email the club to let them the truth? I also heard that a lot Koreans hate him. It would not be a good idea to sign him then. I talked with a scottish Fulham supporter just now and he said he heard this rumor from the club. If it is true, the club has no idea about him. It's a problem.
I'll give it a go.
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
According to the Head of Sport at the Daily Mail, Lee Clayton, West Ham are open to any offers and in fact would encourage them as apparently Allardyce doesn't rate him.
That's interesting. I've always rated him. Would prefer Ramsey though ...
Quote from: Chopper on August 29, 2012, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
According to the Head of Sport at the Daily Mail, Lee Clayton, West Ham are open to any offers and in fact would encourage them as apparently Allardyce doesn't rate him.
That's interesting. I've always rated him. Would prefer Ramsey though ...
I very much doubt Ramsey will leave Arsenal now.
Mr Lampard is/was West Ham through and through-that argument surely tosh ,knowing loyalty of footballers to boot-can see him being an Sam reject-hasn't he bought for his role-a name that won't spring to mind??
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 29, 2012, 12:47:55 PM
Mr Lampard is/was West Ham through and through-that argument surely tosh ,knowing loyalty of footballers to boot-can see him being an Sam reject-hasn't he bought for his role-a name that won't spring to mind??
slightly different with frank though. he handed in a request the second harry was sacked. family loyalty over club loyalty for that one
It would be nice to be able to disconnect from everything until Saturday morning. Hate all these shitey twitter rumours but cant help but read them
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 01:13:52 PM
It would be nice to be able to disconnect from everything until Saturday morning. Hate all these shitey twitter rumours but cant help but read them
This is from sky sports.
Re Lampard/West Ham loyalty-a fat Chelsea contract must have softened the "family loyalty"cross to bear...not that have anything against the guy-find him a refreshingly intelligent footballer.
is Moussa Sissoko still available?
Quote from: hesedmedia on August 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
is Moussa Sissoko still available?
Yes. €7m is the reported fee. I'd definitely pay that.
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on August 29, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: hesedmedia on August 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
is Moussa Sissoko still available?
Yes. €7m is the reported fee. I'd definitely pay that.
That'd be roughly the same value;quality ratio as Dembele for 15m, I think. Would love love love that to happen, but I know he's probably got his sights set on Pool or Utd or some such.
Quote from: hesedmedia on August 29, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on August 29, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: hesedmedia on August 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
is Moussa Sissoko still available?
Yes. 7m is the reported fee. I'd definitely pay that.
That'd be roughly the same value;quality ratio as Dembele for 15m, I think. Would love love love that to happen, but I know he's probably got his sights set on Pool or Utd or some such.
Fell out of form last year... I'm not sure MUFC or LFC would bid for him now.
as some of you may know if you followed the old cottage corner on the ffc site, i work out in belgium and get to see all french, belgian and dutch league football, and also get to see all the rumours and bids etc that are made. In these countries all fees are revealed, and most bids seem to be revealed.
ANyway we have according to reports in france and french speaking belgum mae a bid of 6.5 million pounds for Gomis, no news either way on this bid as to refusal or accepted. This morning it was reveale din the belgian press we have made a bid for bentke, unlike villas bid it has yet to be rejected. according to dutch speakin g belgian press the chadli deal is not dead and talks have resumed due to player coming back to us as he has dropped his saary demands, previously his aget had stated he would not accepte any less than 5.5 times his current salary (which meant circa 72.5 k per week). We hold an interest in steekelnburg however accoridng to press this is more for next summer, Steeklenberg has stated he admires Jol more than any other manager apprently. We have enquired about either Mbokani and or Suarez from anderlecht, but anderlecht have not confirmed which, saurez is a player who players behind a stiker, mbokani is just a goal scorer (but has attitude).
Would you be able to point us in the direction of some links to these rumours?
I'm sure Chadli is coming back to us.
I mean, its not like hes injured or anything. fp.gif
Suarez failed a medical for CSKA a few weeks ago and Mbokani scored for Anderlecht last night to send them into the Champions League. Can't see either coming really.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 29, 2012, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: Chopper on August 29, 2012, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
According to the Head of Sport at the Daily Mail, Lee Clayton, West Ham are open to any offers and in fact would encourage them as apparently Allardyce doesn't rate him.
That's interesting. I've always rated him. Would prefer Ramsey though ...
I very much doubt Ramsey will leave Arsenal now.
I know, wishful thinking.
i will get the links for you, as I am in the UK today. will get a collegue to send me them over.
I had not heard re benteke till today when one of the guys in work rang me to tell me.
The anderlecht stuff is from a guy i work with who is on the board at anderlecht for the clubs fans, i know that sounds suspect but I dont normally post anything about transfers as what ever anyone says someone will say it is all BS.
but yes moon i agree re suarez he failed the edical 3 times, and cska called it off as they didnt want to wait for the player to become fit before playing him. re mbokani, seems unlikey however Anderlecht need money , they tend to sell one player for money each summer. suarez deal was for circa 12 million euros so they may be tempted.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
i will get the links for you, as I am in the UK today. will get a collegue to send me them over.
I had not heard re benteke till today when one of the guys in work rang me to tell me.
The anderlecht stuff is from a guy i work with who is on the board at anderlecht for the clubs fans, i know that sounds suspect but I dont normally post anything about transfers as what ever anyone says someone will say it is all BS.
but yes moon i agree re suarez he failed the edical 3 times, and cska called it off as they didnt want to wait for the player to become fit before playing him. re mbokani, seems unlikey however Anderlecht need money , they tend to sell one player for money each summer. suarez deal was for circa 12 million euros so they may be tempted.
I don't really know about Anderlecht's finances except they'll surely come into a lot of money now for reaching the group stages. Saying that, Dinamo Zagreb who were in dire straits have just sold Badelj now they've reached the groups.
sorry mate we are looking for men he dont qualify he plays for west ham !!!
For me it's:
Loic Remy
Mark Noble
John Guidetti
Charlie Adam
Maarten Stekelenburg
Quote from: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2012, 04:44:48 PM
For me it's:
Loic Remy
Mark Noble
John Guidetti
Charlie Adam
Maarten Stekelenburg
Chadli.
Brama
Slightly unrealistic but Van Der Vaart would be nice...
Gomis, Stekelenburg, Noble, Richardson, Chadli. We'll probably get one of those, Richardson.
Huddlestone Adam or Noble
Gomis
1 of the top 3 and Gomis, would at least see us not desperately threadbare
Chadli
Berbatov would be kind of interesting
I can honestly see nobody significant coming in over the next couple of days.
The financial system in the club is a joke, I'm sorry but we need to move with the times and start paying players decent wages, and as already pointed out by many - the contract system is a complete p!ss take.
Nobody exciting will come in - we wont spend more then 4-5 million quid before friday night.
Were left with a squad of either very old players or kids for the next year
Sorry to say it but 2009 - 2012 will go down as the clubs golden years...
Moussa Sissoko.
Will be interesting to see what happens during these last couple of days. I can't imagine that Jol/Mackintosh has gone through almost an entire transfer window without scouting possible replacements for Dempsey/Dembele as there is/was always an obvious possibility that they would be sold.
Quote from: twang on August 29, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
Moussa Sissoko.
Great shout. He seems Dembele-esque too in that he's 23, was linked with some big clubs before having a relatively poor year, will surely make it to a top European club at some point, plus he only has a year left on his contract.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 29, 2012, 05:06:16 PM
Quote from: twang on August 29, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
Moussa Sissoko.
Great shout. He seems Dembele-esque too in that he's 23, was linked with some massive clubs before having a relatively poor year, will surely make it to a top European club at some point, plus he only has a year left on his contract.
+ he's a "Moussa"
Fer?
Leroy Fer, to replace Moussa in the middle, stunning player on his day.
Edit: Haha, FFC1987 just beat me to it!
Strootman, Douglas, Berbatov and/or Chadli.
Hangeland signing a deal may cheer me up also.
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Sissoko is a beast, would love to see him at Fulham. It's unlikely though.
Mark Noble
Berbatov
Richardson
Sissoko
Gomis
Any decent player.
Umm by the sounds of it it's more like..
Mark Noble
Kieran Richardson
Kenywe Jones
David Bently
Anton Ferdinand
Joey Barton
Paul Konchesky
How about nicking the spine of FC Twente with Fer, Chadli and Douglas....Ha
Our premiership stay is over. We only have the ambition of a league 1 club...
Quote from: twang on August 29, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
Moussa Sissoko.
Will be interesting to see what happens during these last couple of days. I can't imagine that Jol/Mackintosh has gone through almost an entire transfer window without scouting possible replacements for Dempsey/Dembele as there is/was always an obvious possibility that they would be sold.
:plus one:
Would love this to happen and I'm a bit surprised he hasn't been linked anywhere besides Liverpool back in June.
Someone send this link to fulham...loads of freebes
http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist (http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist)
Would Bendtner be a decent punt?
http://www.football-italia.net/24455/viola-fury-juve-snatch-berbatov (http://www.football-italia.net/24455/viola-fury-juve-snatch-berbatov)
Linked with him at the bottom of that. He's only 24, doesn't seem to be that expensive, had an almost 1 in 3 goal scoring record at Sunderland, plus he's a good target man which is what we need as a plan b.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 29, 2012, 05:28:19 PM
Would Bendtner be a decent punt?
http://www.football-italia.net/24455/viola-fury-juve-snatch-berbatov (http://www.football-italia.net/24455/viola-fury-juve-snatch-berbatov)
Linked with him at the bottom of that. He's only 24, doesn't seem to be that expensive, had an almost 1 in 3 goal scoring record at Sunderland, plus he's a good target man which is what we need as a plan b.
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Agreed- Worth a punt!
*Agreed- Worth a punt
Giovani Dos Santos - 1 year left /would be VERY nice!
Quote from: MJG on August 29, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Someone send this link to fulham...loads of freebes
http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist (http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist)
What do you reckon, a combo of Bowyer and Buzsaky to replace Dembele :011:
Quote from: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2012, 05:35:28 PM
Giovani Dos Santos - 1 year left /would be VERY nice!
Yeah I'd agree with that, never really been given the chance with Spurs. Would of thought he'd be fairly cheap as well.
Quote from: zander on August 29, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 29, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Someone send this link to fulham...loads of freebes
http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist (http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist)
What do you reckon, a combo of Bowyer and Buzsaky to replace Dembele :011:
funny that bowyer was the one i noticed as well.
I would be happy with Noble as an upgrade on Sidwell as our 3rd midfielder, but I wouldn't want to be reliant on him as a starter.
Quote from: mikie on August 29, 2012, 05:16:17 PM
Our premiership stay is over. We only have the ambition of a league 1 club...
Defo a WUM. Defo
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 29, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Re Lampard/West Ham loyalty-a fat Chelsea contract must have softened the "family loyalty"cross to bear...not that have anything against the guy-find him a refreshingly intelligent footballer.
Actually think he was always a scum fan believe it or not.
Quote from: mikie on August 29, 2012, 05:16:17 PM
Our premiership stay is over. We only have the ambition of a league 1 club...
:55:
I am trying to think of players in my brief sorrow (sniffle, sniffle) of coming to terms with Dembele gone and can't think of anyone yet. Suggestions welcomed.
My view on this is lets not sign any big players this window. I wouldn't mind a couple of squad players in case of injuries, but what I would like to see now is Frei, Kaca, Mescha, (maybe Kasami although Im not convinced about him yet) a chance to shine. Now I know its a huge risk but one I'd like to see taken this once. If its not working by January then sign some players then, even on loan if need be to get us by.
With the new stand being built soon, I'd be happy with our money going on that and giving these youngsters a chance.
I'm sure plenty wont agree with me but you've got to realise that although we've had a fantastic couple of seasons, we are still a small club. I personally think that we can do ok with the team that played against Utd but with Sidwell in place of Dembele with Mescha and Frei having a go intermittently.
Ramsey, Huddlestone, Chadl, A.Striker
Ramsey to play in the Dembele role alongside Diarra/Ruiz, Huddlestone to play off the bench, cups etc and mix it up against the Stokes of this world - perhaps in a 4-4-2, Chadl to slot in wide and a striker
I'd be happy with that
Quote from: tommy on August 29, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
My view on this is lets not sign any big players this window. I wouldn't mind a couple of squad players in case of injuries, but what I would like to see now is Frei, Kaca, Mescha, (maybe Kasami although Im not convinced about him yet) a chance to shine. Now I know its a huge risk but one I'd like to see taken this once. If its not working by January then sign some players then, even on loan if need be to get us by.
With the new stand being built soon, I'd be happy with our money going on that and giving these youngsters a chance.
I'm sure plenty wont agree with me but you've got to realise that although we've had a fantastic couple of seasons, we are still a small club. I personally think that we can do ok with the team that played against Utd but with Sidwell in place of Dembele with Mescha and Frei having a go intermittently.
if we have only got 20mm to play with we def wont be getting anyone big in. that equates to 2 centimeters
If i had 20mil I would spend the reported 9m that Van der Vaart is available for on him, and then try and bring in one or maybe even two of Ramsey, Chadli and Gomis.
Two possibilities for me.
1. Stick Frei in. He has heaps of potential (Iniesta-esque), plus Kaca and Mesca giving us good other options out wide, he could be a suprise package in the middle. Maybe a bit too lightweight though.....
2. Someone like Chadli or Leroy Fer. We need a dynamic midfielder who can take a man on. I´m not interested in a ´quarter-back´, we already have Sidwell and Diarra
I would like Derek Boateng from Dnipro who played against us in the Europa League. He is a very strong defensive midfielder and, although not in the same style, will plug the gap left with the loss of Dembele.
I think Derek Boateng or Steven N'Zonzi to replace Mousa and Tom Huddlestone on loan with a view to permanent then I would be happy
Or what's it going to be?
e.g. new Riverside Stand.
I really hope Mr Burt that the money won't be used for the stand. :012:
Likewise....
Quote from: FulhamChris24 on August 29, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Two possibilities for me.
1. Stick Frei in. He has heaps of potential (Iniesta-esque), plus Kaca and Mesca giving us good other options out wide, he could be a suprise package in the middle. Maybe a bit too lightweight though.....
2. Someone like Chadli or Leroy Fer. We need a dynamic midfielder who can take a man on. I´m not interested in a ´quarter-back´, we already have Sidwell and Diarra
I agree with the Frei idea. Many on the board have been advocating Frei as a central player for awhile anyways. You would def lose something defensively with him in the middle, but would be interesting to see him taking guys on with the dribble from there.
I don't think you can replace a player of Dembele's quality at FFC by purchasing it as a finished item. You have to develop a raw talent. Took Dembele 18 months to develop at CC into the player he is now. Spread the money around on 1 or 2 high quality youngsters and use the rest to continue to build depth.
Quote from: cebu on August 29, 2012, 09:02:47 PM
I really hope Mr Burt that the money won't be used for the stand. :012:
The only thing that's worried me about the expansion of the ground is that we'd cut back on expenditures elsewhere to the point where we might be "in the dreaded zone." What good is an enlarged seating capacity if we're in the Championship?
Quote from: WolverineFFC on August 29, 2012, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: FulhamChris24 on August 29, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Two possibilities for me.
1. Stick Frei in. He has heaps of potential (Iniesta-esque), plus Kaca and Mesca giving us good other options out wide, he could be a suprise package in the middle. Maybe a bit too lightweight though.....
2. Someone like Chadli or Leroy Fer. We need a dynamic midfielder who can take a man on. I´m not interested in a ´quarter-back´, we already have Sidwell and Diarra
I agree with the Frei idea. Many on the board have been advocating Frei as a central player for awhile anyways. You would def lose something defensively with him in the middle, but would be interesting to see him taking guys on with the dribble from there.
I don't think you can replace a player of Dembele's quality at FFC by purchasing it as a finished item. You have to develop a raw talent. Took Dembele 18 months to develop at CC into the player he is now. Spread the money around on 1 or 2 high quality youngsters and use the rest to continue to build depth.
Agree with the defensive comment, Frei can be lightweight ATM. I think Chadli might fit your description?
Matt Phillips - Blackpool
Peter Whittingham - Cardiff
Marc Albrighton - Villa
Chris Brunt - WBA
Kyle Naughton - Spurs
Armand Traoré - QPR
Ashley Williams - Swansea
That should bolster the squad up a bit...and we'd still have some change...
Quote from: MOR : on August 29, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
Matt Phillips - Blackpool
Peter Whittingham - Cardiff
Marc Albrighton - Villa
Chris Brunt - WBA
Kyle Naughton - Spurs
Armand Traoré - QPR
Ashley Williams - Swansea
That should bolster the squad up a bit...and we'd still have some change...
Albrighton and Naughton are on the market? JUMP ON IT!
Ramsey (Arsenal)
Bannan (Villa)
Mertens (Eindhoven)
Toivonnen (Eindhoven)
Doyle (Wolves)
Gameiro (PSG)
Hoarau (PSG)
Huddlestone (Spurs)
Hooper (Celtic)
Kayal (Celtic)
Kieran Richardson, Berbatov and Bafetimbi Gomis - Jol after all 3
Fulham look set to respond swiftly to the sale of Moussa Dembele to Tottenham Hostpur, with Manchester United's Dimitar Berbatov the latest to be linked with a surprise move to Craven Cottage - with Fiorentina enraged that the striker turned his back on them.
Fulham have already had a £2 million bid accepted for Sunderland's Kieran Richardson, with that transfer dependent on personal negotiation and, as Martin Jol seeks a first-choice forward, follow it with bids for Lyon's Bafetimbi Gomis and now Berbatov.
For his part, the Bulgarian is understood to be hugely open to a move to the Cottage, having previously enjoyed his time under Jol with Spurs.
Fiorentina were originally believed to be at the front of the queue for Berbatov, before first Juventus and then Fulham declared their interest.
And after a day of twists and turns, Fiorentina have released a statement condemning the behaviour of Berbatov and Juventus after the player went back on a verbal agreement to join the Serie A club.
The Manchester United striker is believed to have also done the same to Juve, instead citing family reasons for opting to join Premier League side Fulham.
reallly need a midfielder
Definatley need a creative mid. Desperately
We need a CM, a LB another two strikers at least.
Quote from: General on August 29, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
We need a CM, a LB another two strikers at least.
Richardson is a left back if we sign him.
I'd be very happy to sign Richardson, Noble, Berbatov and either Gomis or a young striker. Noble is probably the longest shot out of the four..which is ridiculous, haha.
definitely need a center mid. sidwell, diarra, davies & baird as CM options doesn't really cut it. Would be surprised if both Gomis & Berba came in
Quote from: Flupp on August 29, 2012, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
reallly need a midfielder
RAMSEY !!!!
Would be. Great signing but arsenal wont want to let anymore CM's go I wouldn't have thought.
Don't forget to add in Siem De Jong who someone mentioned earlier. Typical Fulham, let an entire team go of players and then sell one of our best to fund a whole new team in the last 2 days of the transfer window. Genius!
I'd love for us to go for Callejon again, us another creative CM like Fer or Strootman.
And according to the Guardian we're also interested in:
Jol, who had previously considered a move for Genk's Christian Benteke, has also enquired with West Ham over the potential availability of their midfielder Mark Noble, who has entered the final year of his contract at Upton Park and has yet to agree terms on an extension. There is interest, too, in the much-coveted Blackpool winger Matt Phillips, a target for Southampton already this summer, while Wolfsburg's Iranian-German midfielder, Ashkan Dejagah, has also been heavily scouted.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9507278/Manchester-United-striker-Dimitar-Berbatov-could-return-to-London-with-Fulham-after-late-bid-by-Martin-Jol.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9507278/Manchester-United-striker-Dimitar-Berbatov-could-return-to-London-with-Fulham-after-late-bid-by-Martin-Jol.html)
thing is the "hockey stick" effect pervades all businesses. Most of the big deals are done at the very end even though supporters, CEO's, and especially CFO's wish it wasn't. In nearly every business, waiting till the last minute puts somebody in a position to get a good deal or act rashly out of desperation. Football is no different and I think we'll bring in some more bodies.
I honestly can't remember a window where we were all satisfied.....maybe Hodgson's first window was good..as it turned out.
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 29, 2012, 11:29:56 PM
thing is the "hockey stick" effect pervades all businesses. Most of the big deals are done at the very end even though supporters, CEO's, and especially CFO's wish it wasn't. In nearly every business, waiting till the last minute puts somebody in a position to get a good deal or act rashly out of desperation. Football is no different and I think we'll bring in some more bodies.
I honestly can't remember a window where we were all satisfied.....maybe Hodgson's first window was good..as it turned out.
i think we were satisfied last year with the addition of ruiz and riise. Thats all we really needed I felt at this stage last year.
The Koreans in the Korean quarter of Beijing knew who we were because of Seol. They followed him a lot to the extent that all our games were shown live here in the Korean bars (unless a clash with ManU: Park, which was extremely rare). Surprised the attitude was less enthusiastic in his homeland
I honestly care less if we gain Korean support, I would personally be happy just to see him put the ball in the oppositions goal. If we happen to gain a little Korean support I guess that would just be a bonus.
Going back to the original title of this thread, I'm beginning to view the coming season with a little trepidation. My previous optimism is waning and wobblin' (in fact its "waning" quite hard here at the moment"). If we lose our 2 best players just 2 games into the new season, I fear it will upset the balance of the squad, regardless of who we buy, to the extent that we could be looking over our shoulders at the relegation battle rather than up at the top half of the table.
However, I'm prepared to admit that this could just be Fulhamish pessimism.
FC Silver Fox can we just point out that yes we've lost Dembele and he will be a massive loss, but 2 games into the season, Clint featured in neither game and we didn't seem to miss his goalscoring too much....
True, Andy. Thanks for that dollop of optimism.
The Independent are reporting that Sunderland have accepted an offer from Fulham for Frazier Campbell, believed to be in the region of £2m.
I wonder if we are waiting to see if we can get Gomis before pushing this one through.
Would not be my first or even tenth choice, but if its £2M then don't see the harm in getting him.
Oh dear. Not good.
shocking news simply shocking
If we get him in quick for 2m and move on, then fine I guess. If it's Campbell ahead of other targets (Berba, Gomis..) then no, no, no.
How about a £2m bid for a central midfielder now to bolster that area too? Or a big bid for Douglas Costa.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fulham-potential-last-minute-transfer-deals-8092259.html?action=gallery&ino=1 (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fulham-potential-last-minute-transfer-deals-8092259.html?action=gallery&ino=1)
They've got confused with Richardson, unless Campbell plays Fullback...
I wouldn't write him off.
His goalscoring record pre Sunderland was excellent and he had a bad injury there.
It may be that all he needs is a fresh start with a manager who believes in him.
why ? seriously why?
we have petric, the rod, possibly berba and dont forget if dempsey stays that is another option!
Quote from: ddeuce on August 30, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fulham-potential-last-minute-transfer-deals-8092259.html?action=gallery&ino=1 (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fulham-potential-last-minute-transfer-deals-8092259.html?action=gallery&ino=1)
They've got confused with Richardson, unless Campbell plays Fullback...
Haha! Oh dear... Maybe they added Campbell's name to the original Richardson story for a bit of page padding.
Damn ddeuce, you beat me to it xD
It seems pretty obvious that The Independent has confused Frazier Campbell with Kieran Richardson. Campbell is a striker, Richardson plays on the left-wing or full-back.
Looks like they may have made a mistake and might well have meant Richardson as they are talking about a versatile left sided player.
Please! It's extremely poor journalism. As someone has said, he apparently plays at left wing or full back......
oh well, as i said not really bothered if he came or not.
Good quality squad player. Berbatov is probably waiting for a better offer in England before deciding to join us. Petric and Rodders are not going to cope a full season. So makes sense that we need two more strikers at least. Cambell linked before so hopefully some truth.
Clearly we are just wanting to survive this season. Cambell is good enough.
Have Spurs been mugged!
There is a lot of sentimental stuff been on her for a couple of days but was Mousa that good? he can certainly skip past defenders when he likes, he's strong on the ball. But wouldn't you expect a midfielder like that to be scoring 10-15 goals per season? If he could score goals I would say yes may be even £20m at todays prices but I'm not sure that we haven't had a major result here
he's replaced Luka Modric, 17 goals in 159
More unrealistic than sentimental, perhaps. I think we have achieved a really good deal, if it is £19m and £4m add ons. At the beginning of last season I felt he wasn't that special playing more forward, and sometimes I wasn't convinced about his selection. At this time I thought he was almost 'crab like' in his style of play - moving and passing to the side, lack of shooting and scoring... In his new midfield position he has progressed consistently and rapidly. It's clear that this is destined to be his best position in the future. I'm not sure about his 'greatness' or ability to hold a position in the Spurs team for Champions League games. I do think he is an excellent and inspirational player and I think has displayed great honesty and integrity in his time at Fulham. The current transfer rumours coming on to this site, I think without a doubt, we will have a real fight on our hands to stay in the premiership. Perhaps he will return to us later in his Spurs career, as other players have successfully done, viz. Mullery and Rodney Marsh!
On a point of order Marsh didn't come from Spurs and was not a success on his return.
We're all sucked in but in truth no transfer rumour should be believed.
If we don't bring in a central midfielder and striker good enough to start we're in trouble but I'm still hopeful that we'll do OK.
You know the club's trying and I don't blame them if they won't spend silly money. How much money is "silly" is of course the big question.
Quote from: username on August 30, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
Have Spurs been mugged!
There is a lot of sentimental stuff been on her for a couple of days but was Mousa that good? he can certainly skip past defenders when he likes, he's strong on the ball. But wouldn't you expect a midfielder like that to be scoring 10-15 goals per season? If he could score goals I would say yes may be even £20m at todays prices but I'm not sure that we haven't had a major result here
And he can't save penalties either. :doh:
Quote from: HatterDon on August 30, 2012, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: username on August 30, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
Have Spurs been mugged!
There is a lot of sentimental stuff been on her for a couple of days but was Mousa that good? he can certainly skip past defenders when he likes, he's strong on the ball. But wouldn't you expect a midfielder like that to be scoring 10-15 goals per season? If he could score goals I would say yes may be even £20m at todays prices but I'm not sure that we haven't had a major result here
And he can't save penalties either. :doh:
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Yes Maestro, Marsh did not return from Spurs ...I think it was Man City? - but, you may have understood what I was driving at in my post - that sometimes inspirational players like Mullery, Marsh, Bobby Robson....and Dembele do return after time, and bring something exciting and hugely value in their play back to Fulham. Do you agree?
merging with other topic...
I don't think Spurs have been mugged, I think we have been mugged, and yes I do think Dembele is that good. It's not just his ability to beat people, he's got a great eye for a pass too. I think he's a terrific player.
Quote from: BishopsParkFantastic on August 30, 2012, 01:16:59 PM
Yes Maestro, Marsh did not return from Spurs ...I think it was Man City? - but, you may have understood what I was driving at in my post - that sometimes inspirational players like Mullery, Marsh, Bobby Robson....and Dembele do return after time, and bring something exciting and hugely value in their play back to Fulham. Do you agree?
They sometimes come back but rarely successfully.
Mullery and Robson of course but that was a long time ago.
Ivor wasn't the player he had been. I can't think of any successful examples since Mullery and Marsh really was a piss taking let down.
Mousa is going to be one of the best centre midfielders in the league this season. Let's not kid ourselves with the no end product or no final ball. He's improved loads since he was moved into centre midfield and is now getting 90%+ passing success rate matches plus completing a stupid amount of dribbles. He's not going to be a player that makes ridiculous Pirlo through balls but his dribbling open up space for others by drawing other defenders towards him. Add that to the amount of tackles he makes and he is probably the best box to box centre mid in the league. I admit his finishing isn't great but he still has a very powerful shot but he usually smashes it at the keeper, he needs to be more accurate with his finishing but that is not a huge part of his game any more. Spurs can count themselves very lucky because Mousa is probably one of best players you can watch live at the moment and I am gutted he has gone.
Mouse that Great? What other clubs actually made offers? Man U £5m think. Who else, and why not?
