Jol thinks its Berbatov.
How about Mullery, Moore, Marsh, Best. Of those I would say Moore or Best would be bigger.
Best and Moore were at the end of their careers.
The biggest wtf signing was Edwin Van Der Sar by a mile.
Arguably the best goalkeeper in the world at the time coming to Fulham? No way.
Agree with that Tony.
I don't see Berbatov in the same jaw dropping signing as ANY of those mentioned. Great player but we really will have to stop thinking the club doesn't deserve to be where they are. Jol is right to play up Berbatov for his ego but someone needs to point out we have had plenty of bigger fish. Or at least they were at the time.
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In fairness to Jol he probably arrives at the cottage by boat and has only see the other statue 064.gif
I thought that the signing of Allan Clarke heralded a great new beginning back in the 'sixties, when it seemed that we were able to attract quality players to build a bright future. How sadly that false dawn turned out.
But don't dismay folks, the bright future is here and now!
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 16, 2012, 09:47:46 AM
I don't see Berbatov in the same jaw dropping signing as ANY of those mentioned. Great player but we really will have to stop thinking the club doesn't deserve to be where they are. Jol is right to play up Berbatov for his ego but someone needs to point out we have had plenty of bigger fish. Or at least they were at the time.
Yeah its not like Berbatov cost 30 million a few seasons ago, or top scored in the Premier League.
Lets get this straight: Berbatov should be playing top 4, not top 10. This is a massive signing for us.
How about Chris Coleman? Considering our league standing at the time and then his Fulham career from there he was a fantastic signing!
Alongside Van Der Sar, this is the biggest signing in our recent history.
Berbatov was amongst the best strikers in world football less than 2 seasons ago when Man United paid in excess of 30m for him. At 31, he's hardly past it and is still a world class centre-forward. To be honest, seeing him in a Fulham shirt hasn't quite sunk in but i'm glad he's here.
We are an established PL side now so we can attract higher-quality players, but Berbatov could have gone to any Champions League club (with the possible exceptions of Madrid + Barca) and made the starting XI - it's a huge coup. I think we have Jol to thank for this one.
I think if you look at the impact Berbatov can have with us, then I wouldn't argue against him being our biggest signing. If his goals get us to our highest ever league position 6th/7th again then he could be our biggest ever signing. He has a lot of work to do though before he can have that title.
Depends if we rule out players who hadn't yet developed into top-notch, or who were megastars way beyond peak. (I'd rule out both). If so, then Van der Sar is the nearest comparison and tops Berba for impact at the time, since we were less accustomed then to having top names. However, goalscorer trumps goalkeeper in the glamour stakes, and since we have never signed one with such a high pedigree, so recently attained, I make Jol right.
ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
George Best. By a mile. He may have been past his best, but he was the Beckham of the era, and added 10-15,000 on to our attendances overnight.
He may have a point-Van Der Sar a good shout-otherwise over the hill types-whilst the Moore/Mullery period was gratifying at that level..just something tells me he won't be a Fulham legend-really hope to be proved wrong.
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
And was not much more than a night...had forgotten we'd sold our two best players-Jol's really cunning!!
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
The manager plays a large part in attracting people to a club. If you're Dimitar Berbatov and you've played under Jol before, you'd be more pleased to work with him than say Lawrie Sanchez managing Everton.
And no, Wigan is too small a club. A series of circumstances that led to him joining us including a large part played by Jol.
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
The manager plays a large part in attracting people to a club. If you're Dimitar Berbatov and you've played under Jol before, you'd be more pleased to work with him than say Lawrie Sanchez managing Everton.
And no, Wigan is too small a club. A series of circumstances that led to him joining us including a large part played by Jol.
so then you will have to admit that a large part of dembele leaving was due to the fact jol could not persuade him to stay for another year. you cant have it both ways. no one put a gun to dembeles head to sign for spurs, he could have said no
Yep-you can have it both ways-the departure of the Dems has been exhausted on this board-yet some still don't get it-extraordinary is putting it mildly.
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Yep-you can have it both ways-the departure of the Dems has been exhausted on this board-yet some still don't get it-extraordinary is putting it mildly.
oh i get it. a fee was agreed and dembele wanted to go.. much the same as a fee was agreed for berba and he wanted to come. just dont see how all the credit is given to one man for signing a player and whenever a player is sold its all down to the board, even though jol has said he thought he would have stayed. but yes it is never anything to do with the manger when a player is sold. just as the board play zero part in the signing of players. fair play to jol for sitting down with berbas agent and draughting a 50 page contract
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
The manager plays a large part in attracting people to a club. If you're Dimitar Berbatov and you've played under Jol before, you'd be more pleased to work with him than say Lawrie Sanchez managing Everton.
And no, Wigan is too small a club. A series of circumstances that led to him joining us including a large part played by Jol.
so then you will have to admit that a large part of dembele leaving was due to the fact jol could not persuade him to stay for another year. you cant have it both ways. no one put a gun to dembeles head to sign for spurs, he could have said no
No, a large fact of Dembele leaving was his desire to move to a bigger club and Spurs offering that opportunity.
Remember, not everyone is a fanatical Fulham fan.
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
The manager plays a large part in attracting people to a club. If you're Dimitar Berbatov and you've played under Jol before, you'd be more pleased to work with him than say Lawrie Sanchez managing Everton.
And no, Wigan is too small a club. A series of circumstances that led to him joining us including a large part played by Jol.
so then you will have to admit that a large part of dembele leaving was due to the fact jol could not persuade him to stay for another year. you cant have it both ways. no one put a gun to dembeles head to sign for spurs, he could have said no
No, a large fact of Dembele leaving was his desire to move to a bigger club and Spurs offering that opportunity.
Remember, not everyone is a fanatical Fulham fan.
that really is a dumb comment. do you think dempsey and dembele are fanatical spurs fans? in fact how many players actually play for the team they used to support. im gonna say under half a percent.
Quote from: Burt on September 16, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
George Best. By a mile. He may have been past his best, but he was the Beckham of the era, and added 10-15,000 on to our attendances overnight.
I really do not agree at all with you on this, 5 minute wonder on a pay and play basis.
Moore and Best will have larger and longer reputations in football history than Berbatov and they were wonderful for Fulham in their ways but it was a little coda in terms of their careers and we were not in the top division. Haynes was clearly the most significant player in our history but he signed as a youth. Van der Sar was very significant and arguably a challenger but goalkeepers tend to have a lower profile.
It is perfectly reasonable for Jol to say he is the biggest signing: he was recently the top scorer in the PL, he could easily still be a significant force for Man. Utd. or any Champions League team. We have never had such a high profile player in their prime.
Try enjoying it rather than having an unresolvable argument.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 16, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Moore and Best will have larger and longer reputations in football history than Berbatov and they were wonderful for Fulham in their ways but it was a little coda in terms of their careers and we were not in the top division. Haynes was clearly the most significant player in our history but he signed as a youth. Van der Sar was very significant and arguably a challenger but goalkeepers tend to have a lower profile.
It is perfectly reasonable for Jol to say he is the biggest signing: he was recently the top scorer in the PL, he could easily still be a significant force for Man. Utd. or any Champions League team. We have never had such a high profile player in their prime.
Try enjoying it rather than having an unresolvable argument.
well thats killed this thread, whats next :)
The biggest signing AT THE SIGNING .........(whether we like it or not ) was Marlet , we already had VDS, Saha we were playing freaking brilliant, when his signing was announced and the cost, we kinda believed we WERE Manchester United of the south ......... just for a moment mind !!
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ever thought he has said this to deter from the fact that he has just sold to of our best players ever
It wasn't Jol that sold them but I doubt any other Fulham manager could have got Berbatov to sign for us.
so if jol doesnt sell players then surely he doesnt sign them either.
Do you really think that Jol thought it would be a good idea to sell Dempsey and Dembele? There are financial realities beyond his control that he has to live with just as we do.
Berbatov has made a point of saying that Jol attracted him to Fulham.
and do you really think that jol was given a budget and could sign anyone without asking the board for permission first? love all this its mangers that buy players and boards that sell them.. prey tell whos fault is it then that all the players we tried to sign on deadline did not materialise.. yes jol would have been a factor but then it was also said so was our location. if jol was at say wigan do you think he would of gone there?
The manager plays a large part in attracting people to a club. If you're Dimitar Berbatov and you've played under Jol before, you'd be more pleased to work with him than say Lawrie Sanchez managing Everton.
And no, Wigan is too small a club. A series of circumstances that led to him joining us including a large part played by Jol.
so then you will have to admit that a large part of dembele leaving was due to the fact jol could not persuade him to stay for another year. you cant have it both ways. no one put a gun to dembeles head to sign for spurs, he could have said no
No, a large fact of Dembele leaving was his desire to move to a bigger club and Spurs offering that opportunity.
Remember, not everyone is a fanatical Fulham fan.
that really is a dumb comment. do you think dempsey and dembele are fanatical spurs fans? in fact how many players actually play for the team they used to support. im gonna say under half a percent.
Ohhh dear. Logic fails you again.
I said remember not everyone supports Fulham, I.E not everyone wants to play for them all the time. Like Dembele and Like Dempsey who wanted to move on to a bigger club with better chance of Champions League Football.
any way to get this back on track, Van Der Saar was and still is a world name and he join little old Fulham from Juve
Haynes at a hundred quid a week.True legend.
Can't really argue with Van der Sar. However one moment I can't forget is being at Gillingham [before the day turned black] when Peter Beardsley's name was read out before the start. It genuinely felt like the beginning of something with that particular signing.
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Quote from: Burt on September 16, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
George Best. By a mile. He may have been past his best, but he was the Beckham of the era, and added 10-15,000 on to our attendances overnight.
I really do not agree at all with you on this, 5 minute wonder on a pay and play basis.
I was going by the wording of the title of the thread... Please do not misinterpret "biggest" for "best" (no pun intended). If it was "best" then I would agree with you wholeheartedly.
All this makes you realise that whilst we may not be "big" or "fashionable", we have attracted some great names through the years.
Quote from: ron on September 16, 2012, 09:58:20 AM
I thought that the signing of Allan Clarke heralded a great new beginning back in the 'sixties, when it seemed that we were able to attract quality players to build a bright future. How sadly that false dawn turned out.
But don't dismay folks, the bright future is here and now!
Clarke wasn't a big name when we signed him. $35k from Walsall, did not cause a great stir from my memory. I saw him play his first game for us, and he looked leggy and a bit awkward. Went on to be our best ever striker of course.
Brede Hangeland is quite big, in height sense that is.
I think Andy Cole is a good shout. He had played CL football and won top flight titles. Then he came to struggling Fulham.
My vote would be for Graham Leggat.
Edwin was in hindsight amazing, but at the time there was actually some thought he may have been done after having a series of horror shows for Juve which cost them the Scudetto and them splashing the cash on Buffon to replace him.
Still, regarding our position it was pretty crazy.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 16, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
you will have to admit that a large part of dembele leaving was due to the fact jol could not persuade him to stay for another year.
Jol has himself been explicit about his disappointment with that. He has just suggested that Dembele and Murphy were one of the best midfields in last season's prem, and he has previously expressed his disappointment that Danny didn't stay after he had thought they had shaken on an agreement. Jol's candour obviates the need for any of us to "admit" these things. Meanwhile, Berbatov has been explicit about Jol's importance in persuading him to come here, making something else that none of us has to "claim" or speculate.
We can of course only guess whether other managers might have kept the Dems here for longer in all the circumstances or attracted Berba. My own is that few could.
Jol is not a historian of the club,but someone charged with moral boosting for everyone involved. And he knows better who and how was chasing Berba.Understandably his sense of pride was talking at the time he said what he said.And last but not least , who is to say he wasn't talking probably to the board of the club, not to the journos and the fans..:).... :dft012:
In the Prem era, id say that Berbatov is our biggest signing. He cost £30m a few years ago and was the leagues top scorer when he wasnt even a regular starter.
I agree on Berba. Certainly the highest profile player who is still at the top of his game. I forgot about Van Der Sar, good shout by Mr. Gilroy, but for me the striker is a more glamorous position receiving much more press and fan following. I think Berba will approach 20 goals this season if he stays healthy.
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Quote from: ron on September 16, 2012, 09:58:20 AM
I thought that the signing of Allan Clarke heralded a great new beginning back in the 'sixties, when it seemed that we were able to attract quality players to build a bright future. How sadly that false dawn turned out.
But don't dismay folks, the bright future is here and now!
Clarke wasn't a big name when we signed him. $35k from Walsall, did not cause a great stir from my memory. I saw him play his first game for us, and he looked leggy and a bit awkward. Went on to be our best ever striker of course.
I remember that a lot of the *ahem* bigger clubs were interested though, and the fact that we got an exciting young talent cheap, and from under the noses of the others made us feel special !
Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on September 16, 2012, 02:04:22 PM
Brede Hangeland is quite big, in height sense that is.
I think Andy Cole is a good shout. He had played CL football and won top flight titles. Then he came to struggling Fulham.
....and for my money treated us as his pension fund with a fair bit of walking-hands-on-hips football.
If we are talking about signings where your immediate reaction was 'feck me hows he joined us' I would go for VDS.
Biggest name in football to join was Best by a country mile.
I always thought Pesky was a top signing at the time. A million quid for a striker to join us in the third tier was massive at the time.
Now with Berbatov we have a world class (I don't use that word lightly) striker, who even at 31 should be at a CL club. He's here I believe because of only one reason and that's Jol.
Now if we can have a decent run to the new year I believe we can attract another level of player as we get headlines because of berbatov.
Cant disagree with Jol really. Berbatov is an unreal player, the technique for his first goal yesterday was sublime. How many strikers in the PL have finished with that calmness and quality? One touch and sticks it top bins! He could be playing for Juventus winning titles and competing for the CL but hes chosen a mid table side in us. Im delighted and i cant actually believe he is our player, Van Der Sar is another one, he was the best keeper around and chose to sign for little old Fulham! But in the modern game goalkeepers are never seen as massive signings in regards to a striker or offensive player.
FulhamBen...Dembele had a get out clause so no..Jol didnt sell him, Spurs hit the clause and he wanted out. Dempsey yes its Jols fault that hes gone, but i cant say that im fussed about him as i think Kaca, Frei will develop into top drawer players and Dejagah could be very promising. You really think Berbatov would have signed for us is Roy Hodgson was still here? No chance, he signed because of Jol. Managers rarely can tell the board no this player cant be sold. Fergie is probably the only man that can? Your posts are ridiculous and stupid!
Please keep it civil guys
Big Jim
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Quote from: MJG on September 16, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
If we are talking about signings where your immediate reaction was 'feck me hows he joined us' I would go for VDS.
Biggest name in football to join was Best by a country mile.
I always thought Pesky was a top signing at the time. A million quid for a striker to join us in the third tier was massive at the time.
Now with Berbatov we have a world class (I don't use that word lightly) striker, who even at 31 should be at a CL club. He's here I believe because of only one reason and that's Jol.
Now if we can have a decent run to the new year I believe we can attract another level of player as we get headlines because of berbatov.
Oh yee of little faith, he IS at a CL club!!!!!!! :022:
No mention of AJ so far. Would he make anyones short list? We certainly splashed the cash on him and he looked to be a great buy after we finished 7th.
I was pretty happy at the time but his pedigree falls well short of Berbatov. I can only attribute this to our Europa league final. So exciting to see how we have evolved so rapidly.
Since Hamburg we've attracted a significantly higher class of player and managers than we ever could have hoped to recruit before this. Dembele, Ruiz, Petric, Diarra etc signings that we wouldnt have seen in the old days.
To me this reinforces the wow factor of EVDS- more so that we kept hold of him for some time. No disrespect to the other players in the Coleman era but they just weren't on
a par.
I was thinking of AJ earlier, particularly all the hype and excitement that surrounded his signing.
When I submitted this topic I did not intend to put Jol down or dismiss the signing of Berbatov.
I agree that VDS is up there, but I still say that Moore or the joint signing of Best and Marsh was the more amazing signing. If pushed the double signing has to be the single biggest signing.
This could be an age thing.
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Jol thinks its Berbatov.
How about Mullery, Moore, Marsh, Best. Of those I would say Moore or Best would be bigger.
Jol thinks that Fulham's history began when he replaced Hughes.
But Berbatov IS a huge signing.
I suppose it depends what era you're from. For me, Berbatov is the player with the biggest reputation we have signed. If we're looking at purely at reputation and footballing ability, I guess it is Best, Moore and Berba.
I don't no if he is big but due 2 getting Tosh we get Johnny Haynes. Either way big 4 team
Welcome to FoF Mr Chalky sir...
Don't know if Berba is the biggest, but you fellas have had some great players play for you. VdS I remember. Best obviously..
Who was the biggest name pre Prem NOT to play with us. We seemed to have every well known player here at one time or another. I remember years ago trying to convince somebody that Jimmy Greaves never played for Fulham. The reply was ' But everybody at one time or another plays for you'.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 21, 2012, 08:20:06 AM
Who was the biggest name pre Prem NOT to play with us. We seemed to have every well known player here at one time or another. I remember years ago trying to convince somebody that Jimmy Greaves never played for Fulham. The reply was ' But everybody at one time or another plays for you'.
His son did!
I have just been discussing my post with a work colleague. He thinks that the signing of Keegan (Wilkins) as manager was bigger than the signing of Berbatov.
Quote from: FF(C)UK on September 21, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
I have just been discussing my post with a work colleague. He thinks that the signing of Keegan (Wilkins) as manager was bigger than the signing of Berbatov.
It was massive but not necessarily in a good way.
The sacking of Mickey Adams seemed horribly wrong and a fair few old school supporters abandoned the club as a result. I very nearly did.
With hindsight it's clear that it was right and necessary but Wilkins in particular was never liked and we only got round to appreciating Keegan at about the time he was leaving.
With even more hindsight of course the club's biggest signing was MAF. That was the big game changer.
As LB No11 says without doubt and by a country mile, Johnny Haynes. I really dont know how anyone can come close to this.
Quote from: Peabody on September 21, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
As LB No11 says without doubt and by a country mile, Johnny Haynes. I really dont know how anyone can come close to this.
I think the thread is about the impact when someone signs.
It was a coup to get Haynes to sign because he was captain of England Schoolboys but no one would have predicted the player he would become and the length of service to the club.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on September 21, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: Peabody on September 21, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
As LB No11 says without doubt and by a country mile, Johnny Haynes. I really dont know how anyone can come close to this.
I think the thread is about the impact when someone signs.
It was a coup to get Haynes to sign because he was captain of England Schoolboys but no one would have predicted the player he would become and the length of service to the club.
...on that basis therefore I would suggest Bobby Moore, the impact of having a former England captain and world cup winner was sensational for a club our size and our league status...
Quote from: TonyGilroy on September 16, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
The biggest wtf signing was Edwin Van Der Sar by a mile.
Arguably the best goalkeeper in the world at the time coming to Fulham? No way.
has to be this
Quote from: TonyGilroy on September 21, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: Peabody on September 21, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
As LB No11 says without doubt and by a country mile, Johnny Haynes. I really dont know how anyone can come close to this.
I think the thread is about the impact when someone signs.
It was a coup to get Haynes to sign because he was captain of England Schoolboys but no one would have predicted the player he would become and the length of service to the club.
The thread title is The biggest signing in Fulham's history. By your own admission, JH did sign for us and went on to have an enormous impact on our club. No one knows when we sign a player what impact he will have so, Johnny Haynes is the biggest ever signing for Fulham FC.
Jimmy Hill for me. Without him there would not be a Fulham.
I believe the biggest signing was McBride. He wasn't the best player. (He was good, though.) Rather, it was who he was. To the club, he was the perfect good will ambassador. Unflaggingly polite, generous with his time, professional, positive, never ever an embarrassment. A teammate in the truest sense, promoting good chemistry. I know of no one who ever had a bad thing to say about the man. Do you? That he was an American was a bit of an oddity, but not really. Not any more than, say, a Bulgarian, or Chech, or Swede, or Malian. If it was odd at all, it had more to do with the timing of his arrival. American players were unproven on the world stage. There was no American pro league of any consequence. The club was taking a chance. And now? This Jackie Robinson (first African American player in major league baseball in the U.S.) caught the attention and fueled the dreams of hundreds of thousands of American (and Canadian!) youngsters playing the game. Regardless of whatever xenophobic Anti-American sentiment there is that causes otherwise smart rational English fans to dump on Dempsey after 5 years of dedicated service, the Americans are coming over in ever-larger numbers to Europe. And McBride was their beacon of hope. The club has had success with North American players and as a result will likely be disposed to more at some point in the future. So, if I'm looking for significance, as in, 'who was the most significant or important signing', I'd go with McBride. I'm sure Australian fans, and Japanese fans, and so on all have similar stories of a key exported player who served as a symbol, a lightning rod of hope for youngsters coming up. They all must have respective "McBride" stories of their own. (Speak up!) The only thing that makes Fulham's McBride story of such additional weight is the sheer size of the player pool coming up in the U.S.
No way is it Berbatov. I believe we are about his level, Eufa football chasing side. No way he would be 1st choice at a top 4 side and I would argue top 6. Edwin undoubtably #1. Followed by Marlet. These 2 players could easily have signed for a top 4 side. Although Marlet obviously didn't live up to the hype.
Reasonable fans can disagree about a great many things, but how can you possibly think that Berbatov isn't a world class player? You must be aware of his stats, his history of performance. Come on, now! I can just cry when I think what might have been. If only Jol had obtained Dimitar before he lost Dembele and Dempsey, they both might have seen a very different future at Fulham. And you can add Diarra to that lofty perch as well--until he got hurt. Sigh. Shutting down now.
Was a world class player! Hope I'm proved wrong my friend........
Quote from: AlbanianWhite on September 21, 2012, 09:27:54 PM
No way is it Berbatov. I believe we are about his level, Eufa football chasing side. No way he would be 1st choice at a top 4 side and I would argue top 6. Edwin undoubtably #1. Followed by Marlet. These 2 players could easily have signed for a top 4 side. Although Marlet obviously didn't live up to the hype.
You don't know what are you talking about do you? S001.gif
Take a chill pill? You obviously have Berbatov tinted glasses on. But don't worry , you are not alone!
Let's keep things civil please chaps, I don't want to set Jaws, my killer goldfish, on to anyone.
The fact that there is not massive agreement here just goes to show how many greats we have had through the years...and that each of us are entitled to our opinion on that.
Now, back to George Best... :dft011:
Well said Burt, couple of nasty digs there. Now back to Johnny Haynes.
Breed Hangeland has been a huge signing for the club
Quote from: AlbanianWhite on September 22, 2012, 08:57:09 AM
Take a chill pill? You obviously have Berbatov tinted glasses on. But don't worry , you are not alone!
Yes,I agree. I'll never walk alone...lol.... :dft012:
Not sure if anyone has mentioned him yet, but the biggest and most important signature we have ever had involving Fulham was the piece of paper uncle Mo signed which bought the club.
End of thread.
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Silly Dullard anyone ? (Awaits mass beating with large stick) 064.gif
