Baring any injuries, any opinions on a different team selection to the below?
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I think Baird is suspended and Diarra might still be injured unfortunately.
will be a tougher game than arsenal in the sense that no one expected us to really get anything from the game. We struggled against villa when everyone expected us to walk over them.
I think Jol will go for a safe bet i think
schwarzer
reither hughe hangeland rise
sidwell diarra/karagounis
duff ruiz dejagah
berbs
Thought Sidwell had his best game for a long time on saturday......
Have seen nothing to suggest that Jol will play Duff on the left, he lacks pace and loses the goalscoring threat of being able to cut inside on his other foot. Oh, and Baird's suspended isn't he. Expect Sidwell and Diarra in midfield with Kaka on the left.
Would rather see Senderos start ahead of one of the H's, not sure which as neither have been playing well recently.
Fitness allowing I think the only current doubts are whether Duff or Dejegah play wide right and it's between Kaka and Richardson on the left.
I think Jol will go for Duff and Kaka.
Diarra comes in if fit - if not it really can only be Karagoulis. Time to see if he can hack it still.
I do though have a sneaking suspicion that Senderos could get the nod over Hughes.
Schwarzer
Riethe Senderos Hangeland Riise
Diarra Sidwell
Duff Ruiz Berbatov Kaka
Richardson will be out and Baird is suspended so I would go
Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise
Dejagah Sidwell Diarra Kacaniklic
Ruiz
Berbatov
Subs - Stockdale , Senderos , Kelly , Karagounis , Kasami , Rodallega , Petric
Will not be surprised to see Rodallega start left midfield
I had totally forgotten about Bairds suspension. I was going on the basis that Diarra was going to be available as it didnt seem like a long term injury.
Askan will destroy whoever Sunderland play at LB (are they playing John O'Shea there?), so he's got to start for me. We need pace down the flanks if Ruiz + Berba are starting.
I agree about Senderos replacing Hughes, but I dont think Jol will do it. (even though I would.) Senderos is great at attacking the ball in the air and has good distribution. No brainer for me
Maybe we should try and convert Duff to a CM like Utd did with Giggs? Thoughts?
Rodallega on the left is a good shout, I think it all depends who sunderland start on the right. If it's someone half decent with pace I doubt Jol will want a repeat of the Everton game with Kaka giving Riise little or no support defensively
Quote from: Ordar on November 14, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
I had totally forgotten about Bairds suspension. I was going on the basis that Diarra was going to be available as it didnt seem like a long term injury.
Askan will destroy whoever Sunderland play at LB (are they playing John O'Shea there?), so he's got to start for me. We need pace down the flanks if Ruiz + Berba are starting.
I agree about Senderos replacing Hughes, but I dont think Jol will do it. (even though I would.) Senderos is great at attacking the ball in the air and has good distribution. No brainer for me
Maybe we should try and convert Duff to a CM like Utd did with Giggs? Thoughts?
I think Danny Rose is the Sunderland LB at the moment
I think Duff will start not Dejagah. I do not think hugo on the left is a good idea at all, Kaka is the man for the job.
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on November 14, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Rodallega on the left is a good shout, I think it all depends who sunderland start on the right. If it's someone half decent with pace I doubt Jol will want a repeat of the Everton game with Kaka giving Riise little or no support defensively
How did Kaca get on with his covering on Saturday against Arsenal?
If he gets 90 mins tonight for Sweden do you think that will make a difference to his selection for Sunday?
Dejagah is playing today in Iran, might be a close shave fitness wise, wouldn't be surprised to see Duff get the nod.
I think with Ruiz & Berbatov upfront It's key to have genuine pace down the wings to peg teams back allowing space for Ruiz to get on the ball and link with Berbatov so Jol should go with Dejagah & Kacaniklic
I'm thinking something along the lines of this..
(http://footballformation.co.uk/team/4231/141112161356.png)
Quote from: Boggers on November 14, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on November 14, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Rodallega on the left is a good shout, I think it all depends who sunderland start on the right. If it's someone half decent with pace I doubt Jol will want a repeat of the Everton game with Kaka giving Riise little or no support defensively
How did Kaca get on with his covering on Saturday against Arsenal?
If he gets 90 mins tonight for Sweden do you think that will make a difference to his selection for Sunday?
He was up against Walcott for the majority of it who didn't do any covering himself so a lot of our attacking play was coming down Kaca's side so in truth he didn't actually have to do a great deal of covering. But he did get back to help Riise out when needed.
If he plays 90 mins tonight that may have some bearing on his selection although as we are playing on Sunday he has an extra day to recover.
duff will be fresh, isnt this why he quit international football? and raring to solidify his place. defo give him the nod
Shows how strong our squad is when Petric is not in anyone's starting 11s as he is a quality player
Quote from: Junichi on November 14, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
I'm thinking something along the lines of this..
(http://footballformation.co.uk/team/4231/141112161356.png)
So 2 decisions for a fans choice
Duff or Dejegah
Hughes or Senderos
I am 50 / 50 on both .
Jol will see them in training - in Jol we trust
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on November 14, 2012, 02:26:34 PM
Have seen nothing to suggest that Jol will play Duff on the left, he lacks pace and loses the goalscoring threat of being able to cut inside on his other foot. Oh, and Baird's suspended isn't he. Expect Sidwell and Diarra in midfield with Kaka on the left.
Yes drop Duff, our second leading goal scorer
Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise
Sidwell Karagounis
Dejagah Kacaniklic
Ruiz
Berbatov
Subs
Stockdale, Kelly, Senderos, Duff, Tavares, Rodallega, Petric
Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on November 16, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise
Sidwell Karagounis
Dejagah Kacaniklic
Ruiz
Berbatov
Subs
Stockdale, Kelly, Senderos, Duff, Tavares, Rodallega, Petric
Not a bad shout could happen, although I hope Diarra is fit and maybe Kasami on the bench for Kelly
I would prefer to see Senderos start getting games as well, plus Stockdale - but that's another story.
Diarra, Baird & Richardson missing I would like to see Jol go with
Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise
Dejagah Sidwell Kasami Kacaniklic
Ruiz
Berbatov
Although I expect Duff & Karagounis to get the nod over Kasami & Dejagah
Mignolet
O'Shea, Bramble, Cuellar, Rose
Colback, Larsson
Johnson, Sessegnon, McClean
Saha
This game is ideal for Senderos to return. I personally would have had him in last week, but he should definitely start this.
We should also start with Dejagah and Riether combining on the right.
Quote from: TheDon on November 16, 2012, 02:54:29 PM
Mignolet
O'Shea, Bramble, Cuellar, Rose
Colback, Larsson
Johnson, Sessegnon, McClean
Saha
not a bad team sunderland have there, hopefully our attackers are too clever and classy for their defenders.
Lets go all out attack since our defensive midfielders are all injured!
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Realising I am out of kilter with the rest :022:
.........................but I would drop Riisa put Duff in there instead because he has a better understanding with Hangeland
Things to take into consideration are:-
1. Baired suspended.
2. Diarra Injured
3.Tavares has a knock
4. Sunderland don't leak goals
5. Our keewper and back four pick themselves.
6. our tactical subs good just turn the game for us
How about:-
Sendoros Sidwell
Duff Ruiz Kaka
Berbatov
Subs Dejagah for Duff
The Ancient Greek for Sendoros
Rodallega for Kaka
Quote from: filham on November 16, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
Sendoros Sidwell
Senderos starting when he hasn't yet seen a minute of action this season? And as a CM no less? Surely you jest.
Quote from: MikeR on November 16, 2012, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: filham on November 16, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
Sendoros Sidwell
Senderos starting when he hasn't yet seen a minute of action this season? And as a CM no less? Surely you jest.
Well he has to make a start some time and it is less risky to make his start at the begining of a match in midfield than comming on to replace an injured Hughes or Hangeland in the last ten minutes of critical game with the score at 1-1.
jol said it, either drop bryan into midfield and stick petric up top with berbs. Or bring Karagounis into CM with sidders.
Only other decision is dejagah or duff on the right.
so we will either see kara or petric come in. with kaca on the left team stays the same
Quote from: filham on November 16, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
Things to take into consideration are:-
1. Baired suspended.
2. Diarra Injured
3.Tavares has a knock
4. Sunderland don't leak goals
5. Our keewper and back four pick themselves.
6. our tactical subs good just turn the game for us
How about:-
Sendoros Sidwell
Duff Ruiz Kaka
Berbatov
Subs Dejagah for Duff
The Ancient Greek for Sendoros
Rodallega for Kaka
sunderland dont leak goals and you think it would be better to play the more defencivly minded duff over ashkan?
I reckon he'll drop Ruiz back. He tends to drop back into mf anyway
Doesn't matter who plays, the squad is exceptionally strong. If Fletcher is out for them, I don't see where the goals are coming from
I really don't want Ruiz in a CM position (as one of 2) would rather go with Karagounis. I might even gamble on Kasami as a sub to replace the Greek after an hour.
Yeah I think maybe Karagounis starting next to Sidwell with Kasami on for fresh kegs on the hour
Or Riether CM and Kelly RB?
I would rather Karagounis with Sidwell in the middle however I think Jol desperate to give Petric a game and playing Ruiz in CM allows him to do this. Anyway i trust Jol to make right call.
Ruiz in centre mid is a worry he is not great defensively but then again I thought the same about Dembele moving there, Jol knows best
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on November 16, 2012, 06:59:31 PM
Yeah I think maybe Karagounis starting next to Sidwell with Kasami on for fresh kegs on the hour
How come you always say exactly what I think?!! :)
With some many options, do you realize that the only certain players for Sunday are:
Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise
Sidwell ?
? ? ?
Berbatov
I am almost sure Jol will surprise us, as well as Sunderland. :)
This is one of most interesting things for me this weekend - how will we start? Anyway, in Jol I trust!
Quote from: Ordar on November 16, 2012, 06:04:55 PM
I reckon he'll drop Ruiz back. He tends to drop back into mf anyway
Doesn't matter who plays, the squad is exceptionally strong. If Fletcher is out for them, I don't see where the goals are coming from
"If Fletcher is out for them, I don't see where the goals are coming from"King Louise Saha, unfortunately seems to always come up trumps against us!
i dunno, think ruiz looked more combative last week. Maybe he would be allright in CM. Risky move for sure. WOuld love to see petric come in and score, great player
If Jol is to keep the winning formula, then 4-2-3-1. Simply replace Baird with Karagounis
At home though, 4-4-2 is probably better, giving the extra width and an extra striker up front. Get a feeling, Petric will get picked ahead. Kind of due a start, keep him happy and all. Kara can wait. Plus let's face it. Petric is a cracking player. Hope he scores and Berba and Brian work their magic.
I think he will start Ruiz centre midfield with Petric & Berba upfront, I actually think he should keep it the same and bring Karagounis in for Baird, we are playing well and attacking well so keep it the same, mind you Petric hardly a bad player to come in
