and frustrating them....
COYW!
Poor defending. First attack for city.
Unbelievable - has Hangerland got a bet on ? or leaving ..... another defensive mistake .... sack em all
love sake, same poo different week. schwarzer please attempt to parry a save properly for once as opposed to dropping it to someones feet every time
Kara gave it away, but Schwarzer has to do better than what he did. happening to often im afraid
You would think that Jol would have learnt that all teams think that can attack us hard for 10 minutes, FFC will f*ck it and concede - GAME OVER
I can just copy and paste comments from previous games...
"give ball away in midfield"
"Shwarzer fails to clear danger"
"cross fails to beat first man"
"Berbatov drops deep"
YASM!!
(Yet Another Schwarzer Mistake)
Scwharzer just parried in front of goal.... rookie mistake from our most experienced player.... on the plus side we just played 2 minutes of lovely football, I can see us scoring
OMG Remy has only scored
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 03:16:26 PM
OMG Remy has only scored
they now have something we dont, a striker!!!
From now on Berbatov will be called : Strolin' Bones
...appears he has no intention of getting swetty today
Deano ??? is that you hon, and where have you been ??.....travelling I presume :54:
Not looking bad. With a ST think we could be very good.
i say it time n time again..... we are not a threat with Berba and Ruiz being our "attackers"
Quote from: TWFL on January 19, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
Not looking bad. With a ST think we could be very good.
:plus one: :plus one:
Quote from: TWFL on January 19, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
Not looking bad. With a ST think we could be very good.
52% possession but zero shots on goal
when City attack they are an instant danger as they have strikers actally playing up top and attack with pace not allowing our midfield to get back into position.... when we attack we have a slow build up going through our 2 attackers which allows city to get back and then we have noone in the box
Wow, how poor are we at crossing
lovely cross by the Greek and no one trying to get on the end of it
Passing the ball around well but can't see us scoring a goal even if we played for 300 minutes...
"try to play out of the back and give the ball away" where have we heard that before?
Let's all blame Schwartzer again.
Our CB's are playing too far apart all season, we are getting carved apart through the centre of the park, the full backs are playing slightly higher , hence the CB positioning, to play more attacking football (although they never cross the ball past the first defender).
The centre midfield is not good or strong enough to protect the CB's, Berbatov unsettled the balance by doing what he wants and who is the main scapegoat this season?
A man, who granted isn't as good as he was 2 years ago but none the less, a man who is getting NO protection and is probably nervous at what the shocking Hangeland is going to do next.
Personally I feel sorry for Mark Schwartzer who made some exceptional saves last week.
wow, a chance. Shame, jussst for a second there I thought Sidders had squeezed it in
Howard Webb now on QPR payroll. WH should have had a clear pen.
We need an out and out striker. This Ruiz/Berbatov partnership isnt threatening. They're too similar players
haha berbatov
Richardson looking decent at least.
No pace whatsoever when we break on the counter, berbatov keeps slowing the game down to HIS pace, not the TEAMS pace
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 03:34:30 PM
Howard Webb now on QPR payroll. WH should have had a clear pen.
I think this will prove to be another good signing for them, Tony Fernandes is really showing his ambition.
:005:
Brede always seems to hold the ball one touch too many
Quote from: Baider on January 19, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
No pace whatsoever when we break on the counter, berbatov keeps slowing the game down to HIS pace, not the TEAMS pace
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
We need an out and out striker. This Ruiz/Berbatov partnership isnt threatening. They're too similar players
just a shame alot of fans have taken so long to see this and some still cant.... hopefully Jol will accept it and change things. i think he is the type of guy where if his picks arent working he will just keep picking them anyway
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Baider on January 19, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
No pace whatsoever when we break on the counter, berbatov keeps slowing the game down to HIS pace, not the TEAMS pace
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
We need an out and out striker. This Ruiz/Berbatov partnership isnt threatening. They're too similar players
just a shame alot of fans have taken so long to see this and some still cant.... hopefully Jol will accept it and change things. i think he is the type of guy where if his picks arent working he will just keep picking them anyway
It's a partnership that was working very well at the start of the season and they're probably our two most influential players going forward. It's not as if it's an easy decision to leave one of them out, heck if he left Ruiz out 90% of this forum would be dismayed.
2bf if we hadn't conceded early on I'd be happy so far
Kcat - I am good how are you? Nah no travels, just had loads going on etc...
Leon - Hello mate, how are you? I agree that Hangeland is playing awful at the moment, but as a goalie you should never palm it out infront of your goal, he should have done much better IMO
First half summary, lots of the ball but no chances... Have we had a shot on target? Richardson is playing well finally, as is reither... Hangeland is having a nightmare, we look ok, but ruiz and berba offer us no threat as "strikers"
Quote from: alexbishop on January 19, 2013, 03:47:04 PM
2bf if we hadn't conceded early on I'd be happy so far
yep, me too.
Used rope for sale to any Fulham supporter.
In fact I'll give it away - at least would be 1 less same old message posted!
Duff not in the game. Kara keeps falling over. Sidwell good, Richardson good. Berba Ruiz not getting it together. Game not over yet.
Quote from: leonffc on January 19, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
Let's all blame Schwartzer again.
Our CB's are playing too far apart all season, we are getting carved apart through the centre of the park, the full backs are playing slightly higher , hence the CB positioning, to play more attacking football (although they never cross the ball past the first defender).
The centre midfield is not good or strong enough to protect the CB's, Berbatov unsettled the balance by doing what he wants and who is the main scapegoat this season?
A man, who granted isn't as good as he was 2 years ago but none the less, a man who is getting NO protection and is probably nervous at what the shocking Hangeland is going to do next.
Personally I feel sorry for Mark Schwartzer who made some exceptional saves last week.
Its not a case of that but if he makes a mistake for the goal I will say so.... he did.
Quote from: Enter the Frei on January 19, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Baider on January 19, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
No pace whatsoever when we break on the counter, berbatov keeps slowing the game down to HIS pace, not the TEAMS pace
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
We need an out and out striker. This Ruiz/Berbatov partnership isnt threatening. They're too similar players
just a shame alot of fans have taken so long to see this and some still cant.... hopefully Jol will accept it and change things. i think he is the type of guy where if his picks arent working he will just keep picking them anyway
It's a partnership that was working very well at the start of the season and they're probably our two most influential players going forward. It's not as if it's an easy decision to leave one of them out, heck if he left Ruiz out 90% of this forum would be dismayed.
IMO it wasnt a partnership looking good, they had 1 good (stand out) game together
Promising performance, the final ball isn't quite there but we've nearly opened them up a few times. If we'd won a few more games we'd be more confident. Berbatov is making good runs and Ruiz has nearly put him through a few times.
On the other hand City are giving us all the time in the world on the ball, expect them to defend much better and attack much better in the second half.
We'll need an early goal or we'll probably concede again.
If Stockdale had parried that shot out back into the area he would have been crucified. But City haven't broken sweat yet and we are slow as usual on the break. But I still think we need a forward and try and look dangerous.
However we looked ok and keeping the ball without looking dangerous against the richest club in the World has to be a good thing. Their bench cost more than our squad.
Need to have a chance and a bit of luck.
Quote from: Enter the Frei on January 19, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Baider on January 19, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
No pace whatsoever when we break on the counter, berbatov keeps slowing the game down to HIS pace, not the TEAMS pace
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
We need an out and out striker. This Ruiz/Berbatov partnership isnt threatening. They're too similar players
just a shame alot of fans have taken so long to see this and some still cant.... hopefully Jol will accept it and change things. i think he is the type of guy where if his picks arent working he will just keep picking them anyway
It's a partnership that was working very well at the start of the season and they're probably our two most influential players going forward. It's not as if it's an easy decision to leave one of them out, heck if he left Ruiz out 90% of this forum would be dismayed.
Ruiz is very very very hit n miss.....
i really like the guy and also would find it very difficult to drop him or even Berba but for the sake of the team sometimes u have to make these dicisions... or play both WITH a striker and lose our wide men
Dejagah looks quite a smart player, pleasing to see he can play on either wing.
Interesting to see how Man City are almost letting us play our football. Though we don't seem to prove much threat in terms of shooting oppertunities, it does appear they have been on the back foot almost the entire 1st half.
New gk, striker , centre mid, winger and centre back needed... Looking good!
Dejagah needs to go to the right where he can combine with Riether and Berba, Duff isn't really involved at all. Berba needs to stop dropping and stay up top, while Ruiz should be the one coming back to hold possession and distribute. Sidwell is doing well and Karagounis has been good, except for that awful pass on the City goal.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on January 19, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
Kcat - I am good how are you? Nah no travels, just had loads going on etc...
Leon - Hello mate, how are you? I agree that Hangeland is playing awful at the moment, but as a goalie you should never palm it out infront of your goal, he should have done much better IMO
First half summary, lots of the ball but no chances... Have we had a shot on target? Richardson is playing well finally, as is reither... Hangeland is having a nightmare, we look ok, but ruiz and berba offer us no threat as "strikers"
I'm good cheers Deano, yourself?
I haven't seen this one admittedly but Stockdale got moaned at for doing this against Swansea too. His feet positioning, angle of the shot and waiting forward at the back post meant he couldn't palm it wide. He did well to palm it away albeit through the centre but Hughes didn't react and Hangeland was nowhere to be seen.
I didn't see he what else he could do but being the keeper he gets the blame. Just as MS is copping it. If the defence stop the shots & crosses there is less chance of the keeper being beaten. Our defence ain't performing I'm afraid.
Golden boy Brede needs to take some of the blame but they must be acting on Jols tactics - which could be why Brede looks to be off!?
Quote from: The Moose on January 19, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
Dejagah looks quite a smart player, pleasing to see he can play on either wing.
???
decent performance, but it means love all if we have nothing to show for it
According to the BBC commentary "Fulham haven't crumbled after conceding such an early goal" and "are giving it a good go" - since we're away, to the current league champions, I'm happy with that.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 19, 2013, 03:57:22 PM
Interesting to see how Man City are almost letting us play our football. Though we don't seem to prove much threat in terms of shooting oppertunities, it does appear they have been on the back foot almost the entire 1st half.
Blackpool and Wigan let us play football because they know we can't penetrate. We're great at going sideways, all a team needs to do is sit deep and stay disciplined and they can wait until we give one of our square passes away, then hit us on the break.
We are not signing a new striker and the Berbatov-Ruiz partnership is here to stay. Deal with it.
i am happy with the amount of 2nd balls (other than the goal) we are winning.....
i cant keep saying it but without a striker we are struggling to become a threat when it actually comes to scoring
i hope we bring in a striker and drop one of our 2 more 'technically gifted' players or we have to lose our wide men and keep Berba and Ruiz and play a striker with them
Quote from: leonffc on January 19, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 19, 2013, 03:57:22 PM
Interesting to see how Man City are almost letting us play our football. Though we don't seem to prove much threat in terms of shooting oppertunities, it does appear they have been on the back foot almost the entire 1st half.
Blackpool and Wigan let us play football because they know we can't penetrate. We're great at going sideways, all a team needs to do is sit deep and stay disciplined and they can wait until we give one of our square passes away, then hit us on the break.
QPR away a great example of that
Quote from: The Moose on January 19, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
We are not signing a new striker and the Berbatov-Ruiz partnership is here to stay. Deal with it.
deal with a relegation battle
Quote from: The Moose on January 19, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
We are not signing a new striker and the Berbatov-Ruiz partnership is here to stay. Deal with it.
only here to stay until june if we finish in bottom 3 lmfao.... jump ship, jump ship :hook: man overboard!!!!
Really weird game this.
I can only think city are playing like this because they don't see much of a threat?
But then berbatov and Ruiz are playing for the opposition..
We're bossing this game, COYW!!!!
Quote from: The Moose on January 19, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
We are not signing a new striker and the Berbatov-Ruiz partnership is here to stay. Deal with it.
seriously, i would be happy with them if one stays upfront... problem i have is they both drop deep AT THE SAME TIME, normally within 10 yards of one another playing 1-2s and then a wide ball and no run into the box.... so if one stays up top i am all for it
we've caught the lack-of-movement virus again
Before the Sunderland game and the subsequent dip in form, we were the leagues second top goal scorers, behind only Man Utd, with the same players upfront. We don't need strikers, we need a solid, fit and consistent midfield (Ruiz, Diarra & Sidwell), and then the form will pick up and the goals will come.
Berbatov now at right back...
Quote from: leonffc on January 19, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 19, 2013, 03:57:22 PM
Interesting to see how Man City are almost letting us play our football. Though we don't seem to prove much threat in terms of shooting oppertunities, it does appear they have been on the back foot almost the entire 1st half.
Blackpool and Wigan let us play football because they know we can't penetrate. We're great at going sideways, all a team needs to do is sit deep and stay disciplined and they can wait until we give one of our square passes away, then hit us on the break.
:plus one: :plus one: :plus one:
And this situation is a direct result from the loss of Dempsey, Dembele, & Murphy which we did not adequately prepare for nor did we adequately address after the fact and apparently aren't going to do a damn thing about in this transfer window.
what are the odds on them getting a 2nd via the penalty spot?
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
Before the Sunderland game and the subsequent dip in form, we were the leagues second top goal scorers, behind only Man Utd, with the same players upfront.
True but is it a dip in form or have we been figured out?
Hangeland has looked back to his best today.
Not figured out. The difference is Diarra's still injured.
Kacaniklic for Duff.
Have we had a shot? I still have no idea what tactics we play
richardson injured again
our player fitness is a joke
C´mon the Spammers 1-1
We deserve that. We've created absolutely nothing
Game over
thats that then
And there you have it.
getting carved like turkey
I picked up a stream about 20 minutes ago. This is absolutely pathetic. Dreadful, dreadful football. I'm off. :Get Coat gif:
Quote from: leonffc on January 19, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
Before the Sunderland game and the subsequent dip in form, we were the leagues second top goal scorers, behind only Man Utd, with the same players upfront.
True but is it a dip in form or have we been figured out?
until the Sunderland game Berba and Ruiz had only started 2 games together.. as u correctly state we WAS 2nd highest scorers!!!
Hangeland was one of worst players first half, but is playing better this half..... Berbatov are you going to do anything today???
2-0 game over. Let's hope West Ham get a win today. I never fancies us against them but I prefer to play them on the back of a win, as opposed to them coming here looking to end a win-less streak.
Rodallega for Berbatov.
We just don't have a penetration otherwise we are neat and tidy. Petric coming on but I would prefer Rodders.
Stupid substitution. Ruiz is not a winger!
Apparently Berbatov now playing center mid.
Petric on ..............................it'd Dio time at Citti :scarf:
How has that not been given a corner?
Awful viewing this. But then it's city, hardly an unexpected defeat.
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: leonffc on January 19, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
Before the Sunderland game and the subsequent dip in form, we were the leagues second top goal scorers, behind only Man Utd, with the same players upfront.
True but is it a dip in form or have we been figured out?
until the Sunderland game Berba and Ruiz had only started 2 games together.. as u correctly state we WAS 2nd highest scorers!!!
we have won 1 game with them starting together......
Berbatov has such a horrible attitude, not what Fulham are about in the slightest..... yet again he has done nothing today....
Playing against us is so easy. Let us play the ball around without doing anything, then counter with pace.
We never look like scoring, and cant defend. We're starting games effectively with a 4-6-0 formation. Our crossing is terrible, but is doubly pointless as we never have any players in the box.
I actually think Berbatov is becoming a hindrance. His slowing down of the game doesnt help. Just have problems all over the pitch. Realistically we need a GK 2 CBs, LB, 2 CM, 1 ST minimum.
I still think we'll get relegated
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 04:38:21 PM
Playing against us is so easy. Let us play the ball around without doing anything, then counter with pace.
We never look like scoring, and cant defend. We're starting games effectively with a 4-6-0 formation. Our crossing is terrible, but is doubly pointless as we never have any players in the box.
I actually think Berbatov is becoming a hindrance. His slowing down of the game doesnt help. Just have problems all over the pitch. Realistically we need a GK 2 CBs, LB, 2 CM, 1 ST minimum.
I still think we'll get relegated
:plus one: to the formation and Berba
Absolutely no urgency. We need our captain to inspire us on the pitch.
People will talk about us playing City and having no chance. But we really have never looked as if we were going to have an attempt. City have walked through this with ease. We have looked neat at times. But without anything up front yet again we just look very easy to turn over.
Our attacks are just water off a duck's back. Won't score in two matches today.
Another game without a single shot, embarrassing....
Do not understand why Zorbo has not been subbed ................ the bloke must be knackered
78 mins no shots on target
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 19, 2013, 04:42:25 PM
We have looked neat at times. But without anything up front yet again we just look very easy to turn over.
:plus one:
Duff has been rubbish the past few games. Why oh why won't Jol sub him?
Duff has been poor today.
i would like to see Ruiz and Petric to start up top next league game they seem to be close friends and i think that may rub off onto the pitch
and as much as i didnt like the idea of Rodders wide maybe have him back in there
Reading, QPR and Sunderland picking up points so far.
same story, different week. 3 months of uninspired play. We really our dreadful. Nobody's fault though I guess.
city 17 shots 2 goals. 55% possession to us and zero shots on target, 2 off target
I´m not really worried . City have lost only twice all season. What do people expect. We have competed but against a world class side.
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
i would like to see Ruiz and Petric to start up top next league game they seem to be close friends and i think that may rub off onto the pitch
and as much as i didnt like the idea of Rodders wide maybe have him back in there
They were good together pre-season and vs Norwich (Petric and Ruiz that is ).
Rodders on the wing has been tried and failed
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 19, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
same story, different week. 3 months of uninspired play. We really our dreadful. Nobody's fault though I guess.
Hi Ridge, good to hear from you again here. I wonder how many shots we have had in the last 15 games? Less than one game last season?
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
I´m not really worried City have lost only twice all season. What do people expect. We have competed but against a world class side.
Finally someone talking sense!
Once again, Berbatov lets Citeh's defense get back in place by strolling around the bleedin place.
You can't use away to city as an example of our overall form, I think.
We've been awful, yeah, but really were we likely to be good? Are most teams outside Manchester likely to be good here?
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
I´m not really worried . City have lost only twice all season. What do people expect. We have competed but against a world class side.
I expect to do more with 55% possession against any team.
We are so boring to watch
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
I´m not really worried City have lost only twice all season. What do people expect. We have competed but against a world class side.
Finally someone talking sense!
This is rubbish. We can't keep saying this and making excuses when the same thing happens at QPR and home to Wigan etc etc.
I really cant see us getting to 40 points this season. Even another 10 points looks out of reach. Thrown away too many points at home.
We have been terrible for so long. I dont know how we're going forward as a club. Teams below us are picking up points. Very very worrying
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
Brebatov needs to get over himself, all that tutting, head shaking, hands on head, hands on hips and glaring
If I was his team mate I would give him a good hard slap where it hurt
Quote from: Riverside on January 19, 2013, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Humbled on January 19, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
i would like to see Ruiz and Petric to start up top next league game they seem to be close friends and i think that may rub off onto the pitch
and as much as i didnt like the idea of Rodders wide maybe have him back in there
They were good together pre-season and vs Norwich (Petric and Ruiz that is ).
Rodders on the wing has been tried and failed
agreed mate regarding rodders, i am the 1st person to moan about rodders playing wide... just like to see him in the team to be honest...
would 100% like to see Ruiz and Petric start against the hammers (not united in the cup) as off the field they seem to be pals and i think we would play as more of a team
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
So true! 092.gif
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
I simply do not believe that Diarra and one other player will make that much difference. I wish it would but I really don't see that turning our season around.
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
mate, its how berba plays..... he drops deep regardless who he plays for/with and him and Ruiz are too similar... Berba in a smaller team such as ours will always demand the ball and attempt to start every move regardless of his position. just watch him he will hapilly collect the ball on the edge of our own box and this creates a huge hole up top for us, he could counter this by busting a bollock to get into the box after laying the ball off but he doesnt.
difference is he didnt throw his weight around as much at United cos A he was NEVER the best player and B the manager was NEVER scared to drop him
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 19, 2013, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 19, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
I´m not really worried City have lost only twice all season. What do people expect. We have competed but against a world class side.
Finally someone talking sense!
This is rubbish. We can't keep saying this and making excuses when the same thing happens at QPR and home to Wigan etc etc.
Every week, someone finds some excuse why it was ok to play rubbish football or to drop more points because we are not in the bottom three yet. How long can this happen before we ALL wake up and realize we are in big trouble and finally yell "Houston, we have a problem!".
When is it ok to point the finger? Not this week I guess because we are playing Man City. Oh well.
A few points about today. Firstly Jol got the substitutions wrong again, been a few games now. Rodallega should've come on for Berbatov and Kacaniklic for Duff. Secondly central midfield lacked creativity with Karagounis having a quiet game so Berba had to drop deep again. Thirdly lack of movement all over the pitch meant Ruiz couldn't weave his magic and meant we had no tempo.
Finally Hangeland did nothing to motivate the boys, really poor captain.
On the bright side Hangeland looked back to his best.
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
I really cant see us getting to 40 points this season. Even another 10 points looks out of reach. Thrown away too many points at home.
We have been terrible for so long. I dont know how we're going forward as a club. Teams below us are picking up points. Very very worrying
You can't see us getting ten more points? Really? in the last 13 games when our form has been awful we have got that.
Look on the bright side ,we are 6 pts off relegation zone plus a vastly better GD but we are only 4 pts off 10th. We will finish top half.
I say to the board about Jol back him or sack him. It's clear we need additions. All our relegation rivals have spent money.
Berba technically is CLASS.... but he has to play with certain players to look good for more than just his 1st touch
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
I really cant see us getting to 40 points this season. Even another 10 points looks out of reach. Thrown away too many points at home.
We have been terrible for so long. I dont know how we're going forward as a club. Teams below us are picking up points. Very very worrying
Well yes, when teams below us play each other, they are going to pick up points. QPR picked up one point, which isn't good enough for them, Newcastle lost at home to Reading, Sunderland passed us by beating Wigan, but that just means we still have a six point cushion to the relegation zone. Considering the fixtures, this hasn't been too bad a day for us so far.
I would say that if you can't find 10 realistic points the rest of the season then you're not trying very hard. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. This was never going to be a good game to judge us by. Ironically, conceding the early goal may have helped keep the score down, but despite the infamous "lack of cutting edge" we can't be too disappointed with the result.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 19, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 19, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
same story, different week. 3 months of uninspired play. We really our dreadful. Nobody's fault though I guess.
Hi Ridge, good to hear from you again here. I wonder how many shots we have had in the last 15 games? Less than one game last season?
Hola Beamer! Been gettin' my behind kicked in the game of life, so haven't been on as much.
I think I am going to go back and count the shots, just for fun......
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
This. It really isn't a tactical mystery, our creators are all naturally advanced players dropping deeper than they should.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on January 19, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
Kcat - I am good how are you? Nah no travels, just had loads going on etc...
Leon - Hello mate, how are you? I agree that Hangeland is playing awful at the moment, but as a goalie you should never palm it out infront of your goal, he should have done much better IMO
First half summary, lots of the ball but no chances... Have we had a shot on target? Richardson is playing well finally, as is reither... Hangeland is having a nightmare, we look ok, but ruiz and berba offer us no threat as "strikers"
Good to see you posting again, don't be a stranger
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 19, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 19, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
The reason why we're not creating chances is because of our make-shift midfield and their inability to probe. This means Ruiz and Berbatov have to come deep to collect the ball, meaning there's then nobody up front to play through. It's hardly rocket science, but without Diarra returning (and being kept fit) or another CM/DM being brought in, it ain't gonna change.
I simply do not believe that Diarra and one other player will make that much difference. I wish it would but I really don't see that turning our season around.
Sidwell and Karagounis are playing quite well, to improve on either of those two we are going to have to spend big time.
No shots on target today and only two shots on target against Wigan, something is seriously wrong.
Ruiz and Berbatov , our two realy talented players, are not producing the goods.
Just one point about Fulham subs. Jol´s subs have scored more (8) goals than any other team in the Prem. Perhaps he should start with them instead.
Had a lot of the ball. lots of nearly chances but no real ones. Oh how we desperately need a creative midfielder and a replacement for Hughes who is not the player he used to be and of course a new keeper. If Jol can make those three signings we have a chance.
At least ruiz is trying to make something happen, berbatov is awful, he expects everything to be given to him on a plate.. Seriously who does he think he is, unless he's dropped we won't improve
Quote from: Ordar on January 19, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
I really cant see us getting to 40 points this season. Even another 10 points looks out of reach. Thrown away too many points at home.
We have been terrible for so long. I dont know how we're going forward as a club. Teams below us are picking up points. Very very worrying
and teams picking up points? we need 4 teams to go above us. QPR are 10! points behind and i don't really agree Newcastle, Villa and Wigan are cleaning up massive amounts of points, do you? Southampton have just taken a massive gamble and we wont finish behind Reading add to that Norwich and west ham are falling.
Agree that it is midfield that is causing us the problems. We need a box to box player who can drive us forward and with speed.
And it looks like Stoke are being found out, no reason we can't gain four points on them as long as we beat them at home. West Ham and Norwich also on fairly bad runs, Newcastle had higher expectations than us and have been on an even worse run. Basically we're not the only fans wondering where our form is leading us. Home against West Ham next is a great opportunity for some momentum against another side struggling for form, especially if we can get a good signing by then.
This squad with this manager has zero chance of finishing top half, most likely bottom six, very possibly bottom four. Staying up will be due more to poor quality of at least three others, not due to skills or initiative of players or selection and tactics of manager.
RidgeRider
"Every week, someone finds some excuse why it was ok to play rubbish football or to drop more points because we are not in the bottom three yet. How long can this happen before we ALL wake up and realize we are in big trouble and finally yell "Houston, we have a problem!"."
If we are relegated there will still be those who will assert (without any very clear evidence) that Jol is an excellent coach, argue he was unlucky (losing Dempsey and Dembele, and with injuries), let down by the Board failing to spend (in my view they are right to be cautious with a manager who has wasted money as Jol has), and is just the man to bring us back up again!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 19, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
Used rope for sale to any Fulham supporter.
In fact I'll give it away - at least would be 1 less same old message posted!
No takers on the rope then?
I must say I am surprised. I thought someone would take it for nothing and then pass it on - there's only about 20-30 others in need and I think it's still got enough strength left in it for that!
