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Poll
Question:  Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Option 1: Dishwasher votes: 2
Option 2: Tumble dryer votes: 4
Option 3: Multi-tasking servant votes: 1
Title: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on January 23, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Ok fed up with no transfer news so i though i'd ask a practical question, obviously i realise a few guys may not use the equipment in the title so please ignore me if this is the case.
My quandry is that i only have space for either a dish washer or tumble dryer, therefore just wondered what other people think is preferable? There is only two of us in the household which should be taken into account.
Sorry in advance if this thread is too far away from football to be on this forum
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: MOR : on January 23, 2013, 10:51:03 PM
Tumble dryer every time...

(http://www.which.co.uk/media/images/in-content2/panasonic-tumble-dryer-305981.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: MJG on January 23, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
As a bloke i already have a dishwasher so I would treat her to a tumble dryer.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on January 23, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
Clothes dry naturally, dishes don't wash themselves...
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Lighthouse on January 23, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
Well I would always pick the dishwasher. Tumble dryer is fine but frankly stuff can be dried in many other ways. Who needs to dry stuff quickly nowadays?  A dish washer is handy to put the dishes and cups and plates and when full stick it on. Saves time in my busy life.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: LBNo11 on January 23, 2013, 11:06:05 PM
...tumble drier definitely, very practical in the winter/wet weather days to get clothes/towels/dishclothes etc.,dry.

If there are only two of you there will not be that much cutlery or crockery to wash up, and that can be done quickly in a sink - so tumble drier would be my choice...
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Burt on January 23, 2013, 11:08:29 PM
Dishwasher... Clothes can be hung, or slung over radiators, etc.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Burt on January 23, 2013, 11:09:33 PM
Oh, and if you have OCD like me, stacking the dishwasher just so is a very satisfying experience!

:dft011:

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Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Senior Supporter on January 23, 2013, 11:13:45 PM
Getting the tumble dryer and putting the dishes in it could be quite entertaining  :Get Coat gif:
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Lighthouse on January 23, 2013, 11:18:08 PM
Using the same old dishes in the same old formation. We need to use more cutlery and give every plate a chance to be used and be washed. Why can't people see this?  :Get Coat gif:
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Jimpav on January 23, 2013, 11:19:53 PM
Tumble dryer is very useful. Granted clothes can be hung up around the house but this does little to help condensation and can take a while to dry.

I do love the dishwasher but it's a luxury that has only really come into its own since having a baby/toddler that generates endless dirty cups and plates that need washing and sterlilising.

Oh and to get really technical make sure you get a condenser drier (not one that you have to hang a pipe out the door/window).
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: ron on January 23, 2013, 11:25:32 PM
Washing dishes by hand is the worst chore out, and takes twice as long as you think.  Clothes best dry naturally on a clothes horse in the spare room (tumble drying often shrinks clothes).

No contest. Just let 'er indoors get on with all of it by not getting in the way....that's what pubs are for.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Holders on January 24, 2013, 12:26:05 AM
Tumble dryers are inefficient and costly - go for the dishwasher. I used to think it wasn't worth the fag of loading/unloading but the stuff comes out so nice...
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: VicHalomsLovechild on January 24, 2013, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: JustOverTheRiver on January 23, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
Clothes dry naturally, dishes don't wash themselves...

Um and clothes wash themselves ?
Takeaways and paper plates do away with washing up and a tumble dryer provides you with nice soft towels  065.gif
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on January 24, 2013, 12:33:07 AM
Dishwasher. Lost too many expensive pieces of outdoor clothing by forgetting they should not be tumbled. Stupid me!
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: The Bronsons on January 24, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
Buy an X-Box instead. Eat pizza out of cardboard boxes. Wear pyjamas all day.

It works for my son.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on January 24, 2013, 01:29:11 AM
There is no need to compromise ....innit !!! 
get a new  dishwasher and and Washer/Dryer 

here for the washer/dryer
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/sp/washer-dryers.html (http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/sp/washer-dryers.html)


Here for the dishwasher 
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/cl/13/Dishwashers?attr_2000040=2008295 (http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/cl/13/Dishwashers?attr_2000040=2008295)
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=275881 (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=275881)
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on January 24, 2013, 01:30:11 AM
Quote from: The Bronsons on January 24, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
Buy an X-Box instead. Eat pizza out of cardboard boxes. Wear pyjamas all day.

It works for my son.

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Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: YankeeJim on January 24, 2013, 02:09:58 AM
Well, in an attempt at a serious answer to what I felt was a serious question I'll put in my 2 cents worth. I spent near 5 years as a single parent.  Hanging clothes out was  a pain and sometimes nature didn't cooperate in Southern California. I hardly think it does in England. So I either had wet clothes or had them hanging all over the flat. That, and when they were hung out I had to stay home so that they didn't grow legs.  Not a good thing when you are working 6 days a week.
I bought a thing that had a sponge on one end and you could put dish soap in the handle. All you had to do was a quick swipe and rinse and put the wet dish in basket & let it air dry. As a result, I seldom used the dishwasher.
Get a clothes dryer. Toss the wet things in and run down to the pub for a pint.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on January 24, 2013, 03:06:52 AM
Quote from: Berserker on January 23, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Ok fed up with no transfer news so i though i'd ask a practical question, obviously i realise a few guys may not use the equipment in the title so please ignore me if this is the case.
My quandry is that i only have space for either a dish washer or tumble dryer, therefore just wondered what other people think is preferable? There is only two of us in the household which should be taken into account.
Sorry in advance if this thread is too far away from football to be on this forum

Put it this way, Mr B can't dry the clothes, but he can wash the dishes.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Snibbo on January 24, 2013, 03:15:03 AM
Dishwasher every time. Why? Because when you've eaten a good meal, the last thing you want to do is the dishes.

Never had real problems drying clothes in England or Ireland when I lived there, and they dry on the line in 30 mins in the Adelaide summer.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Forever Fulham on January 24, 2013, 05:44:44 AM
This seems like a disguised survey of values.  You need a water source and drain access for a dishwasher.  For a dryer, you need a vent to the outside, though I've seen dryers in garages, back patios, bathrooms and laundry rooms that weren't ducted.  So, you get a new dishwasher and you find the location you hadn't previously considered for your dryer.  In Europe, they sell stacking washer dryer units far more than you see in the States.  Space considerations.  Have you thought of stacking a dryer atop your washing machine?
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Burt on January 24, 2013, 08:57:01 AM
Quote from: The Bronsons on January 24, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
Buy an X-Box instead. Eat pizza out of cardboard boxes. Wear pyjamas all day.

It works for my son.

Substitute PS3 for xbox and that is an accurate description of Burt Jr!
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: dlc on January 24, 2013, 09:21:02 AM
Tumble drier without a doubt. Its nice to grab a few minutes to yourself whilst the other half is washing the dishes.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: ffc73 on January 24, 2013, 09:44:20 AM
There is only Mrs FFC73 and myself and when faced with the same question our answer was a dishwasher + a second clothes drier.  For us, it has proved the right choice.

However.  Mrs FFC73 frequently points out that if she knew I'd spend the huge saved hand dishwashing time reading this forum then she might have decided on the tumble drier.....
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: epsomraver on January 24, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
Got to be a tumble dryer Mrs B and here is why

DRYING washing indoors could be a health hazard, a study has claimed.

Experts say hanging laundry on radiators and airers releases moisture into the air that can cause asthma, hay fever and other allergic conditions.

Research by the Glasgow-based Mackintosh Environmental Architecture Research Unit (MEARU) found that drying clothes indoors raises moisture in the home by 30 per cent on wash days and 15 per cent on average.

The moisture can encourage dust mites and mould spores which can trigger allergic reactions.

Add to that the time you run a bowl of hot water to wipe down work tops and serving areas then with two of you you might as well do the dishes as well.

Professor Colin Porteous, of MEARU, said: "Because of increased awareness of the energy consumption of tumble dryers, many people are choosing to dry clothes passively within their home.

"This results not only in a severe energy penalty, because of increased heating demand, but also a potential health risk due to higher moisture levels."

The study showed that indoor drying also causes environmental and economic problems which housebuilders should take into account.

The current trend for airtight construction and smaller homes contributes towards moisture build-up, the researchers added.

The study suggests that separate drying spaces should be included in the design of new homes, either communal areas or as part of individual properties, while a short-term solution would be to improve ventilation.

It adds: "Our research gives strong justification for the changes, both in terms of health and wellbeing and associated economic impacts."
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Airfix on January 24, 2013, 10:45:20 AM
Er.  I admit that I've just scanned the answers, many of which are very interesting, but I do feel that they all miss a vital point here.

There are two of us in our household (Myself and Mrs AF) and we have a dishwasher and a (wait for it.....  :drums: :drums: :drums:........)

WASHER-DRYER!!

Problem solved, thank you.

Move along.

Who shall we sign?
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Lighthouse on January 24, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: Airfix on January 24, 2013, 10:45:20 AM
Er.  I admit that I've just scanned the answers, many of which are very interesting, but I do feel that they all miss a vital point here.

There are two of us in our household (Myself and Mrs AF) and we have a dishwasher and a (wait for it.....  :drums: :drums: :drums:........)

WASHER-DRYER!!

Problem solved, thank you.

Move along.

Who shall we sign?


Yeah well it's this sort of short termism that will cause chaos. Everybody knows a washer dryer doesn't dry as well as a tumble dryer. Jol should know that and so should everybody else by now.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: epsomraver on January 24, 2013, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Airfix on January 24, 2013, 10:45:20 AM
Er.  I admit that I've just scanned the answers, many of which are very interesting, but I do feel that they all miss a vital point here.

There are two of us in our household (Myself and Mrs AF) and we have a dishwasher and a (wait for it.....  :drums: :drums: :drums:........)

WASHER-DRYER!!

Problem solved, thank you.

Move along.

Who shall we sign?

Big problem with washer dryers are initial  cost, they are not as effecient at drying  and if one bit fails you lose both capacities
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: DukeTyrion on January 24, 2013, 12:19:47 PM
Dishwasher ... just because.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: The Equalizer on January 24, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
A set of golf clubs. I get my manservant to do the dishes and laundry.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Airfix on January 24, 2013, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 24, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
A set of golf clubs. I get my manservant to do the dishes and laundry.

... and anything else that requires one to reach shelves and counters above 2'6"....
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: grandad on January 24, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Wife, washing line
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: sipwell on January 24, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
I would go for the tumble dryer (although I am with AF9 on this one: the combination works brilliantly). Doing the dishes is a social thing in our household. You eat, chat and do the dishes together (and continue to chat). For me personally it also has a calming effect (you focus on the dishes and you become zen). I guess I just described my future job! :P


(and I am weird)
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on January 24, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: sipwell on January 24, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
I would go for the tumble dryer (although I am with AF9 on this one: the combination works brilliantly). Doing the dishes is a social thing in our household. You eat, chat and do the dishes together (and continue to chat). For me personally it also has a calming effect (you focus on the dishes and you become zen). I guess I just described my future job! :P

(and I am weird)

Nope not weird. My father, when he was alive and retired, used to do all the washing up in the kitchen with the radio on. He said it had a calming effect and he loved doing it. I stress this was after he had retired, before that my Brother and myself had a rota system of household chores that included the washing up.

Thanks all for your answers. I'm afraid the washer dryer is out of the question at the moment as the washing machine was only bought a year ago, so far too new to replace. 

I'll look at the different options of both, and cost etc. at the weekend, and maybe treat myself if we lose to Man Utd. 

Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: A Humble Man on January 24, 2013, 01:42:59 PM
It is not difficult washing and drying up of dishes.  Drying clothes in a flat is difficult as they will be drooping over everything, which is not very appealing to visitors.

You can get domestic washer dryers you know which save the space of one appliance but you would have to sell your washing machine.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: DukeTyrion on January 24, 2013, 01:49:20 PM
Looking to the future, if you have a Washing Machine and a Dishwasher, and the washing machine ever breaks down, you will have the option of replacing it with a washer/dryer.

If you have a Washing Machine and a Tumble Dryer, you are effectively snookering yourself, as you would then be in a position where you would have to get rid of 2 appliances and get 2 in, to get to the same position.

So, I guess the question is, are you going to be in the flat for some time?
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on January 24, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on January 24, 2013, 01:49:20 PM
Looking to the future, if you have a Washing Machine and a Dishwasher, and the washing machine ever breaks down, you will have the option of replacing it with a washer/dryer.

If you have a Washing Machine and a Tumble Dryer, you are effectively snookering yourself, as you would then be in a position where you would have to get rid of 2 appliances and get 2 in, to get to the same position.

So, I guess the question is, are you going to be in the flat for some time?

Good thinking. I would think I will be living in the same place for the next 6 years, and then will probably move to Scotland or Belgium
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: F(f)CUK on January 24, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
Only recently bought a slimline dishwasher as we only recently extended the house to have a kitchen large enough. It's OK, but all our plates are now chipped.

Always has a tumble dryer. Recently changed to a hose outlet and condensers make the air too humid and lead to damp if not careful.

In other words - no contest - tumble dryer every time.

Washer dryers are OK but tend to break quicker.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Basil on January 24, 2013, 02:47:02 PM
This is honestly the most interesting topic on this forum for weeks.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: King_Crud on January 24, 2013, 04:27:03 PM
I once got rising damp from drying clothes indoors, but I'd still go for a dishwasher. I absolutely hate washing the dishes
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: michaelread on January 24, 2013, 04:29:02 PM
I wish i had more hands, so i could give this thread 4 THUMBS DOWN. :046: :046: :046: :046:
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: King_Crud on January 24, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: michaelread on January 24, 2013, 04:29:02 PM
I wish i had more hands, so i could give this thread 4 THUMBS DOWN. :046: :046: :046: :046:

cocaine is a hell of a drug
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: A Humble Man on January 24, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
You will never pull a member of the sex you fancy if you have to pull the clothes down first. Get a tumble dryer and use paper plates etc.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: TheDaddy on January 24, 2013, 06:18:48 PM
Tumble Dryer being delivered friday with two little ones its an endless stream of dirty clothes accidents ie explosive nappies  :028:

As for washing up as Burt says with my OCD i clean as i go "haven't been caught yet licking the plates !
Title: Re: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on February 10, 2013, 10:43:23 AM
Thanks all for advice. Bought dishwasher in the end and it was delivered yesterday...yay. Decorating living room now and the arguement between Mr B and my self will be whether we get rid of the piano!!
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: A Humble Man on February 10, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Berserker on February 10, 2013, 10:43:23 AM
Thanks all for advice. Bought dishwasher in the end and it was delivered yesterday...yay. Decorating living room now and the arguement between Mr B and my self will be whether we get rid of the piano!!

Good music, which is hard to find these days, should take priority over every other aspect of life. 
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on February 10, 2013, 06:02:15 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 10, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Berserker on February 10, 2013, 10:43:23 AM
Thanks all for advice. Bought dishwasher in the end and it was delivered yesterday...yay. Decorating living room now and the arguement between Mr B and my self will be whether we get rid of the piano!!

Good music, which is hard to find these days, should take priority over every other aspect of life. 

Yes that is exactly Mr B's arguement, me playing the piano is not good music!!!
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: jarv on February 10, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
drier edefinitely. good in winter and clothes come out softer and no need to iron most these days.  to save energy (and money) in summer, I hang them out but then I have to iron to get rid of the stiff wrinkles.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: A Humble Man on February 10, 2013, 06:27:26 PM
Most women just use irons to straighten their hair now.
Title: Re: Re: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on February 10, 2013, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 10, 2013, 06:27:26 PM
Most women just use irons to straighten their hair now.

Yes i know what you mean, alot of people think i'm odd not straightening my curly hair. I sometimes feel a bit put out when people say i would look better with straight hair, especially seeing it is not what i was actually  born with!
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Shredhead on February 10, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
Right choice, getting the dishwasher. Ours has saved a lot of grief in our house due to differing expectations of washing up quality. My to top for drying clothes is to get one of those old fashioned ' Shirley' clothes driers  on a pulley above the stairs.

I've curly hair. Be proud.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: King_Crud on February 11, 2013, 10:34:01 AM
I have curly hair and hate it
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: sipwell on February 11, 2013, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: King_Crud on February 11, 2013, 10:34:01 AM
I have curly hair and hate it

Why do you hate it? I like mine.
Title: Re: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Berserker on February 11, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
When i was a young girl i hated my hair. My mum used to keep it short and dress me in jeans, and people used to think i was a little boy. As a concession, because i wanted long hair, she bought me a clip on pony tale so i could pretend. Now i'm older i embrace my curly unruly hair. Also if your hair is curly it's alot easily to  put it 'up' on top, if it's straight you need an awful lot of pins to hold it in place. Of course that last sentence wouldn't be a plus if you were a fella
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: sipwell on February 11, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Berserker on February 11, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
When i was a young girl i hated my hair. My mum used to keep it short and dress me in jeans, and people used to think i was a little boy. As a concession, because i wanted long hair, she bought me a clip on pony tale so i could pretend. Now i'm older i embrace my curly unruly hair. Also if your hair is curly it's alot easily to  put it 'up' on top, if it's straight you need an awful lot of pins to hold it in place. Of course that last sentence wouldn't be a plus if you were a fella

curly hair with men usually is a woman's magnet. At least, that is what I am told.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: jarv on February 11, 2013, 12:58:00 PM
Given my hair has been receding for years and very thin on top, I would settle for any hair now to replace the baldy bits.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: mangoputney on February 11, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
Gotta be tumble

Hate washing up with a passion though
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: west kowloon white on February 11, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
Brilliant decision Beserker-enjoy.I am trying to use my equipment as much as possible but it's age means need extra tablets.
Title: Re: NFR: Dishwasher or Tumble dryer
Post by: Sniffer on February 11, 2013, 07:25:55 PM
Neither