Belgian press indicates that Igor De Camargo is in London doing medical tests at Fulham. De Camargo is a strong striker (a big boy with a good shot and a good header) but the only problem is that he is injury prone (faulty knees). He was not playing a lot in Borussia Monchengladbach and wants a change. He is not a top goalscorer but he kicks in quite a few and is a terror for defence. In the run-up to the World Cup, De Camargo (who is a naturalized Belgian) wants to secure a place in the Belgian squad, so he is desperate for first team football (and proof his worth vis-à-vis Benteke and Lukaku).
Igor de Camargo.jpg
de Camargo at practice with Mönchengladbach in 2011.
Personal information
Full name Igor Alberto Rinck de Camargo
Date of birth 12 May 1983 (age 29)
Place of birth Porto Feliz, Brazil
Height 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in)
Playing position Forward
Club information
Current club Borussia Mönchengladbach
Number 10
Youth career
1998–2000 Estrela FC Porto Feliz
2000–2001 Racing Genk
Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2000–2005 Racing Genk 25 (2)
2003–2004 → Beringen-Heusden-Zolder (loan) 32 (10)
2005–2006 Brussels 28 (14)
2006–2010 Standard Liège 114 (32)
2010– Borussia Mönchengladbach 52 (13)
National team‡
2009– Belgium 9 (0)
faulty knees? then there is no way he will pass our medical.
Yes please. We need a bully up there at the moment.
'Igor de Camargo.jpg' is an interesting stat.
"Give him a chance before he's kicked a ball" etc.
Now that's out of the way, can I just mention that he's 30 in 4 months time. When is this youth revolution happening? People will no doubt mention Riether, that he's almost 30 too and has been good for us. Fair enough, but how many of these types of signings do we have to make? They'll steadily decline and have to be replaced again in 2-4 years with no re-sale value. Other teams such as Newcastle have proven this window that there are good, hungry and talented young players out there. Why aren't our scouts picking up on some of these?
Well he fits our player criteria, nearly 30, dodgy knees and doesn't score many ! Shouldn't cost too much !
Quote from: SKSW6 on January 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
"Give him a chance before he's kicked a ball" etc.
Now that's out of the way, can I just mention that he's 30 in 4 months time. When is this youth revolution happening? People will no doubt mention Riether, that he's almost 30 too and has been good for us. Fair enough, but how many of these types of signings do we have to make? They'll steadily decline and have to be replaced again in 2-4 years with no re-sale value. Other teams such as Newcastle have proven this window that there are good, hungry and talented young players out there. Why aren't our scouts picking up on some of these?
Maybe the money isn't here. It's all well and good having targets of a decent age, but if other clubs are also after them (which, if they're half decent, is likely) then the club just on't be able to compete in terms of a bid or wages. Maybe freebies are the only real option available.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on January 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
"Give him a chance before he's kicked a ball" etc.
Now that's out of the way, can I just mention that he's 30 in 4 months time. When is this youth revolution happening? People will no doubt mention Riether, that he's almost 30 too and has been good for us. Fair enough, but how many of these types of signings do we have to make? They'll steadily decline and have to be replaced again in 2-4 years with no re-sale value. Other teams such as Newcastle have proven this window that there are good, hungry and talented young players out there. Why aren't our scouts picking up on some of these?
Maybe the money isn't here. It's all well and good having targets of a decent age, but if other clubs are also after them (which, if they're half decent, is likely) then the club just on't be able to compete in terms of a bid or wages. Maybe freebies are the only real option available.
This is what I've been trying to get across, must be the reason that we're linked with so many "top" players yet 95% fail to materialize.
I can see the attracttion, last year we signed Pog and rose up the table, if true then maybe Jol is trying to replicate the same formation for the run in, hopefully with the same result. We definitely need a target man who can bully and pressure defenders
Quote from: FFC to the Max on January 28, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
This is what I've been trying to get across, must be the reason that we're linked with so many "top" players yet 95% fail to materialize.
That and Jol said something about players not passing the medical. Maybe it's a bit to stringent? Yeah, you don't wanna sign injured players but the number of players that have said Fulham's is the hardest medical to pass must surely be ruling out some perfectly acceptable players.
His name is Igor? And he's a striker? Good enough for me. :021: I can hear it now: "Berbatov scores on an assist from Igor." On a feed from Ashkan. Perfect. No need now to take that river cruise this summer on the Danube.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on January 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
"Give him a chance before he's kicked a ball" etc.
Now that's out of the way, can I just mention that he's 30 in 4 months time. When is this youth revolution happening? People will no doubt mention Riether, that he's almost 30 too and has been good for us. Fair enough, but how many of these types of signings do we have to make? They'll steadily decline and have to be replaced again in 2-4 years with no re-sale value. Other teams such as Newcastle have proven this window that there are good, hungry and talented young players out there. Why aren't our scouts picking up on some of these?
Maybe the money isn't here. It's all well and good having targets of a decent age, but if other clubs are also after them (which, if they're half decent, is likely) then the club just on't be able to compete in terms of a bid or wages. Maybe freebies are the only real option available.
The real worry is not his age but his dodgy knees. The job he has to do is help us to keep off the bottom of the table for the rest of the season which means playing in 14 premiership matches, if the knees can hold up to this work load then he would seem to fit the bill. We realy are in need of a good conventional target man, the dream partnership of Berbatov and Ruiz has failed we have to play a different system.
Quote from: filham on January 28, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
The real worry is not his age but his dodgy knees. The job he has to do is help us to keep off the bottom of the table for the rest of the season which means playing in 14 premiership matches, if the knees can hold up to this work load then he would seem to fit the bill. We realy are in need of a good conventional target man, the dream partnership of Berbatov and Ruiz has failed we have to play a different system.
If his knees are the issue then the medical will pick it up. Unless for some reason it fails this time.
A target man is exactly what we need, yes we play some decent football but we never go anywhere with it we need an outlet to our attacks
Dodgy knees, nearly 30, when will it ever end? fp.gif
TBH what we need now. Reither put in some decent crosses on Saturady with not a soul there. Dempsey used to bust a gut to get on the end of them & to be fair so does Rodallega & Sidwell - when he makes it into their box. So this is encouraging - provided he passes that medical. Certainly everybody's favourite, Berbatov would benefit from a presence up top. So I believe he should be given a chance before he's berated.
story goes here in belgium is that we have enquired about his availability, however nothing more than that, we want to loan him first due to injury issues.
Seen this guy a few times and he has been impressive. Though not sure about how he would do in the prem. Would rather have bent
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
story goes here in belgium is that we have enquired about his availability, however nothing more than that, we want to loan him first due to injury issues.
I beg to defer. And without becoming defensive, the story came from "here in Belgium":
gor De Camargo staat op punt om de Bundesliga in te ruilen voor de Premier League. De Rode Duivel is op overschot bij Borussia Mönchengladbach en mag weg. De Camargo zou vandaag/maandag al medische tests afleggen bij Fulham.
Bij Mönchengladbach was de ex-spits van onder meer Racing Genk en Standard uit de gratie gevallen. Om zijn plaats bij de nationale ploeg niet kwijt te spelen, is De Camargo op zoek naar een nieuwe werkgever.
Eerder toonden Eintracht Frankfurt en Stuttgart al belangstelling en nu dus ook Fulham. Bij de Londense club zou De Camargo ploegmaat worden van spelers als Bryan Ruiz (ex-AA Gent) en Dimitar Berbatov (ex-Tottenham en Manchester United).
Foto Reuters
http://www.gva.be/sport/voetbal/transfers/aid1321459/fulham-in-poleposition-voor-de-camargo.aspx (http://www.gva.be/sport/voetbal/transfers/aid1321459/fulham-in-poleposition-voor-de-camargo.aspx)
bent if we want an out an out striker but rumour has it villa now want 8+ for him, carmago is a target player ad if we were to buy more like 2 million. not sure we need a target man considering how we play
Quote from: sipwell on January 28, 2013, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
story goes here in belgium is that we have enquired about his availability, however nothing more than that, we want to loan him first due to injury issues.
I beg to defer. And without becoming defensive, the story came from "here in Belgium":
gor De Camargo staat op punt om de Bundesliga in te ruilen voor de Premier League. De Rode Duivel is op overschot bij Borussia Mönchengladbach en mag weg. De Camargo zou vandaag/maandag al medische tests afleggen bij Fulham.
Bij Mönchengladbach was de ex-spits van onder meer Racing Genk en Standard uit de gratie gevallen. Om zijn plaats bij de nationale ploeg niet kwijt te spelen, is De Camargo op zoek naar een nieuwe werkgever.
Eerder toonden Eintracht Frankfurt en Stuttgart al belangstelling en nu dus ook Fulham. Bij de Londense club zou De Camargo ploegmaat worden van spelers als Bryan Ruiz (ex-AA Gent) en Dimitar Berbatov (ex-Tottenham en Manchester United).
Foto Reuters
http://www.gva.be/sport/voetbal/transfers/aid1321459/fulham-in-poleposition-voor-de-camargo.aspx (http://www.gva.be/sport/voetbal/transfers/aid1321459/fulham-in-poleposition-voor-de-camargo.aspx)
Siwell i agree it came from here in belgium, i work in brussels and i read it as we offered a loan with a permanent in the summer. either way not sure he is what we actually need considering we need midfield payers who can pass.
What is it about Fulham and fellas with dodgy knees?
Sipwell, westcliff white - you are both in Brussels - meet, sort it out, tell us what is happening!
:airfix:
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
story goes here in belgium is that we have enquired about his availability, however nothing more than that, we want to loan him first due to injury issues.
With his dodgy knees a loan deal would seem sensible but our enquiries should have been made ages ago, once again it would seem that we have arrived late.
I know nothing about him but a target player is the type of player I have been saying we haven't got and badly need. So here is hoping.
Quote from: Airfix on January 28, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
Sipwell, westcliff white - you are both in Brussels - meet, sort it out, tell us what is happening!
:airfix:
they should go for a coffee on the Brussels high st and discuss a plan
Quote from: Airfix on January 28, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
Sipwell, westcliff white - you are both in Brussels - meet, sort it out, tell us what is happening!
:airfix:
ive seen him play and he is useful, as i say not sure he is what we need. other than what we have both said in pieces there is not a lot else. i know sky on there website transfer centre mentioned their were english clubs looking at him.
He's big, he's tough and great in the air. But I can remember him being so slow the last time I watched him....
In truth, target men are throwbacks to an earlier age in this sport, when you launched the long ball upfield in the air, bypassing the hard work of slowly working up the field with short possession passes. I won't say they've gone the way of the buggy whip, but the modern game wants more out of a big man who can play with his back to the goal. You have to be able dribble and distribute too, not just knock it down to your feet and quickly pass it back to the nearest teammate rushing into position to strike. You have to buy your teammates 2-3 seconds to catch up. That's an eternity up top. Having said that, though, if ever there was a team which could benefit from a real target man, it's Fulham right now. If someone could just give Ruiz or Berbatov the ball enough times inside the 18, we'd score plenty, wouldn't play so deep, the defense wouldn't be in a state of seige, and the midfield would even open up a little more. Target men take a real beating with defenders bear hugging them, dead legging them, kneeing them from behind. It's a tough thankless role.
clarks your right he is slow, but can be dominant in the air.
not a real re-build transfer..
although he seems to be a target man we could need.
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on January 28, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
He's big, he's tough and great in the air. But I can remember him being so slow the last time I watched him....
Big lumps worked in the FA Cup at the weekend!
He'd offer something different to Berba, Petric or Rodallega. Need a bit of brawn sometimes.
Fulham set to see off Everton and Frankfurt in the race for £2m De Camargo
By JOHN EDWARDS
Fulham are in talks with Borussia Moenchengladbach striker Igor de Camargo and are in pole position to see of competition from Eintracht Frankfurt and Everton for his signature.
The 6ft 2in frontrunner flew in to London to discuss personal terms with Fulham bosses and is expected to undergo a medical, if an agreement can be reached.
Fulham manager Martin Jol wants a physical presence up front, to take some of the weight off Dimitar Berbatov's shoulders, and Craven Cottage officials moved swiftly after hearing that Frankfurt and Everton had also expressed an interest.
A fee in excess of £2million has been accepted by Moenchengladbach for the 29-year old, who is equally effective leading the line or playing a more withdrawn role.
Capped nine times, the Brazilian-born naturalised Belgian feared for international future after recently losing his place in Moenchengladbach's starting line-up and made it clear he wanted a fresh start to try and raise his profile.
His wish looks like being granted by Fulham, who are hopeful of making it a pre-deadline double by also snapping up one of the rising young stars of Belgian football in 18-year old midfielder Junior Malanda.
Sportsmail revealed earlier this month that Fulham were in the driving seat for Malanda after matching Zulte-Waregem's £4million-plus asking price for the powerful teenager, who can operate in the centre of defence as well in a midfield anchor role.
Udinese are also in the hunt, but Fulham have been heartened by news that Malanda's father would welcome the chance to relocate to London, where several members of his family already live.
We used to have an Igor in the Bistro at work. Strapping Russian guy, he was fantastic at his job. Left to go to Bristol, shame really.
Just what we need..Another sicknote jockey...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: filham on January 28, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
The real worry is not his age but his dodgy knees. The job he has to do is help us to keep off the bottom of the table for the rest of the season which means playing in 14 premiership matches, if the knees can hold up to this work load then he would seem to fit the bill. We realy are in need of a good conventional target man, the dream partnership of Berbatov and Ruiz has failed we have to play a different system.
If his knees are the issue then the medical will pick it up. Unless for some reason it fails this time.
We signed Diarra with his dodgy knees and he passed the so called stringent medical
Quote from: epsomraver on January 28, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: filham on January 28, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
The real worry is not his age but his dodgy knees. The job he has to do is help us to keep off the bottom of the table for the rest of the season which means playing in 14 premiership matches, if the knees can hold up to this work load then he would seem to fit the bill. We realy are in need of a good conventional target man, the dream partnership of Berbatov and Ruiz has failed we have to play a different system.
If his knees are the issue then the medical will pick it up. Unless for some reason it fails this time.
We signed Diarra with his dodgy knees and he passed the so called stringent medical
We assume. I don't recall ever reading that exactly.
I'm starting to believe that the club are in the midst of letting us down easy on the idea that Diarra is done for the season. That extra month came out of nowhere. Can't say that it was unexpected, for me anyway.
Quote from: epsomraver on January 28, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
We signed Diarra with his dodgy knees and he passed the so called stringent medical
Wasn't he fine for a while, until he went away with Mali though? Don't recall him being out for any real period before then...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on January 28, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
We signed Diarra with his dodgy knees and he passed the so called stringent medical
Wasn't he fine for a while, until he went away with Mali though? Don't recall him being out for any real period before then...
That's when the ball started rolling downhill for him, IIRC.
Quote from: filham on January 28, 2013, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
story goes here in belgium is that we have enquired about his availability, however nothing more than that, we want to loan him first due to injury issues.
With his dodgy knees a loan deal would seem sensible but our enquiries should have been made ages ago, once again it would seem that we have arrived late.
Where have you read/heard that enquires were not made ages ago?
isnt there a rule where if you drop out of an international comp you cant play for your club for a certain amount of days..... coud he have dropped out and now the clubs waiting for the time to elapse?
mmmmmm conspirecy
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: FFC to the Max on January 28, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
This is what I've been trying to get across, must be the reason that we're linked with so many "top" players yet 95% fail to materialize.
That and Jol said something about players not passing the medical. Maybe it's a bit to stringent? Yeah, you don't wanna sign injured players but the number of players that have said Fulham's is the hardest medical to pass must surely be ruling out some perfectly acceptable players.
I actually meant that fact that you said the money isn't here, but the whole strict medical idea works too. :008:
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on January 28, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
He's big, he's tough and great in the air. But I can remember him being so slow the last time I watched him....
Well we are currently attacking at walking pace so he should fit straight in
Additionally we would have someone for Mark to aim at when he punts it forward
Quote from: Forever Fulham on January 28, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
His name is Igor? And he's a striker? Good enough for me. :021: I can hear it now: "Berbatov scores on an assist from Igor." On a feed from Ashkan. Perfect. No need now to take that river cruise this summer on the Danube.
Oh dear a Danube trip to Iran? At least if u skip it you will avoid a terrible scam!
On another note ... Igor... born in Brazil, De Camargo and Belgian?
Quote from: dannydog on January 28, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Well he fits our player criteria, nearly 30, dodgy knees and doesn't score many ! Shouldn't cost too much !
Woof,woof. 092.gif
I know. I was just playing off the first names which tickled me. A little levity beats another piss and moan.
Also known as "Eye-gor" the hunchbacked assistant (as played by Marty Feldman) in Mel Brookes Young Frankenstein
Or if you prefer from the hit "Monster Mash"
"The scens was rockin',all were digging the sounds / Igor in chains,backed by his baying hounds"
Maybe we have found our warrior?!
sky sports website transfer center reporting we are interested in a loan deal for Igor
Anyone actually heard of this guy or seen him play other than a YouTube clip and reason this thread?
Wasn't there an Igor in a Terry Prackett book?
ive seen him play as i mentioned earlier on this thread, think someone else said they had on the thread too. good in the air, quite slow, good scoring record. he would ad to the squad as he is something we dont have right now
Quote from: God The Mechanic on January 28, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: FFC to the Max on January 28, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
This is what I've been trying to get across, must be the reason that we're linked with so many "top" players yet 95% fail to materialize.
That and Jol said something about players not passing the medical. Maybe it's a bit to stringent? Yeah, you don't wanna sign injured players but the number of players that have said Fulham's is the hardest medical to pass must surely be ruling out some perfectly acceptable players.
Not passing the medical is code for not agreeing terms.
Quote from: ollienixs on January 28, 2013, 08:47:40 PM
Anyone actually heard of this guy or seen him play other than a YouTube clip and reason this thread?
Seen him play as well. Weighs on defence but above all a really good team player (limited ego). And, as a Belgian, I was surprised to see a native Brazilian learn Dutch, French AND German when he came to Belgium. Shows a willingness to integrate (in a club).
agree sipwell shows that he wants to be one of the guys
Quote from: A Humble Man on January 28, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
Not passing the medical is code for not agreeing terms.
Or he could actually be telling the truth? It is possible for players to agree terms then the buying club pull out.
Sky Sports understands that Fulham have expressed an interest in taking Borussia Monchengladbach's Igor De Camargo on loan.
I watch a lot of bundesliga. Big physical presence. Not a goalscorer, but can bring a lot of people into the game, bit like zamora but bigger and a lot better with his head
Quote from: hazzaffc on January 28, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
I watch a lot of bundesliga. Big physical presence. Not a goalscorer, but can bring a lot of people into the game, bit like zamora but bigger and a lot better with his head
Sounds like he'd be a good addition at least until the seasons end.
Quote from: hazzaffc on January 28, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
I watch a lot of bundesliga. Big physical presence. Not a goalscorer, but can bring a lot of people into the game, bit like zamora but bigger and a lot better with his head
I won't get a seat in row Z then!
Quote from: Berserker on January 28, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
Wasn't there an Igor in a Terry Prackett book?
If he's like the Igors in the books then we need no worry about his knees. He can always find a way to replace them!
I think he record is 70 odd gals in 250 odd games according to Wikipedia but not sure we can believe that. He is very good in the air and a lot better than BZ, and a better attitude
Quote from: jarv on January 28, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Dodgy knees, nearly 30, when will it ever end? fp.gif
plus he hasn't got a good goal-scoring record....... fp.gif........ 090.gif
Since when has dodgy knees ever stopped Fulham ever signing a player? Over time we have added so many players to our squads With a history of knee or other injuries I wondered if our scouting was done around hospital wards or in physio departments! An exception being John Carew who famously failed our medical because of his 'jumpers' knees'. I think it was almost suggested that his career had reached the end of the road. Whereas he went on to play more than a hundred and twenty games for Aston Villa and a handful of games for Stoke and West Ham and he continued to play for Norway until about 2010. Now a free agent and still living here at 33 he might be a good target man at 6'5". A trifle old and slow but agewise would not be the oldest in the team and probably not the slowest! However he could be Plan B if Igor doesn't materialise. Even for a short term contract.
Quote from: OldBrownShoe on January 29, 2013, 01:19:29 AM
Since when has dodgy knees ever stopped Fulham ever signing a player? Over time we have added so many players to our squads With a history of knee or other injuries I wondered if our scouting was done around hospital wards or in physio departments! An exception being John Carew who famously failed our medical because of his 'jumpers' knees'. I think it was almost suggested that his career had reached the end of the road. Whereas he went on to play more than a hundred and twenty games for Aston Villa and a handful of games for Stoke and West Ham and he continued to play for Norway until about 2010. Now a free agent and still living here at 33 he might be a good target man at 6'5". A trifle old and slow but agewise would not be the oldest in the team and probably not the slowest! However he could be Plan B if Igor doesn't materialise. Even for a short term contract.
No, I don't want him near the club. I was SOOO pleased when we didn't sign him.
Not that it had anything to do with his footballing ability but he's an ex of my ex (who wasn't my ex then). I wouldn't have dealt with that well.. In fact I wouldn't have dealt with it at all, I'd have just stopped watching football until he left again.
Weirdly, from my own observation, our "stringent medical" has only ever stopped us signing players who didn't have any obvious injury concerns before we became interested in them.
Quote from: FFC73 on January 28, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Quote from: ClarksOriginal on January 28, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
He's big, he's tough and great in the air. But I can remember him being so slow the last time I watched him....
Well we are currently attacking at walking pace so he should fit straight in
Additionally we would have someone for Mark to aim at when he punts it forward
He can't kick the ball! ;)
Per sky sports its between us and everton at the moment. He can't be that bad if moyes rates him.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 29, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
Per sky sports its between us and everton at the moment. He can't be that bad if moyes rates him.
Who is to say that either of us want him - the transfer window is about bluff and double bluff - it only becomes real when they sign on the dotted line and the FA are informed.
Ease up roberty i was only quoting from sky and taking it at face value.
It was only a quip - not meant to offend at all - just pointing out the obvious.
I read postings that complain about our lack of activity to plug gaps that are obvious to everyone, including Jol.
The reasoning used is that because the club do not keep us informed, there is nothing going on.
There is also disappointment when Jol says we do not have a lot of money to spend.
He is never going to say anything else; if we have or not will be known by Thursday night and not before.
The Frimpong signing demonstrates that things are going on and I'm not aware of anyone who predicted that in advance of the announcement.
Gladbach have confirmed talking too two unnamed premiership clubs however sky claim the confirmed to them it was everton and fulham. but who knows what is real as ole winky says its gang warfare out there
These players are youngsters when we start looking at them, but 30+ by the time the cheque book comes out!
Quote from: ron on January 29, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
These players are youngsters when we start looking at them, but 30+ by the time the cheque book comes out!
So long in fact that cheques are no longer acceptable to many selling clubs!
Quote from: ron on January 29, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
These players are youngsters when we start looking at them, but 30+ by the time the cheque book comes out!
:Haynes The Maestro: :Haynes The Maestro:
We signed Pogrebnyak on a relatively short term deal and look how that turned out.
only a rumour but according to a dutch site elfvoetbal Everton have beaten us to his signing. Not seen anything here in Brussels, there was a link to HIN . be however nothing appeared on the site.
Tall, lumbering, slow and poor on the ground. Sounds like Orlando Sa mark two or Peter Moeller.
How about this for conspiratorial thinking. Your intelligence tells you a near rival of yours is going to bid for a player you see if he is any good, if he is bid, if he is not spread the rumour that you are going to bid so your rival pays over the odds for rubbish.
We have a few Belgium suporters on our Forum and they reckon he is definately not premier material. You were better off with the Pog, their words not mine.
Bill.
Quote from: licker on January 29, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
We have a few Belgium suporters on our Forum and they reckon he is definately not premier material. You were better off with the Pog, their words not mine.
Bill.
I am Belgian and I would disagree with that. He is Premier League material but is injury-prone. An injury-Free De Camargo weighs on defence and you'll have someone with a remarkable work ethic.
Sounds positive, we seem to be looking for loan deals which is okay aslong as you have option to buy
Seem to have confirmed his signing
http://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=307030#ixzz2JNuuvXfx (http://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=307030#ixzz2JNuuvXfx)
He looks really good in the air from his youtube videos, the type of player who'll provide a focal point up top and maybe take advantage of all the corners we seem to get in matches.
Something different to what we have and on loan - can't complain.
This makes sense. A low-risk signing with some much needed physical presence - similar to Pog last season.
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
not working so need plan b
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
He has the Brazilian ability to receive a ball in his feet, pass it back and run 'in the hole'. His aerial ability has more to do with the fact that he can head a ball in. His type of player is what Fulham needs: a player who will be in the box when one of our agile wingers centers it.
Sipwell have you read on elfvoetball that he is off to everton i am not sure how reliabel that site is. i usually go on hin.be as they seem to have a lot of good sources
Quote from: westcliff white on January 29, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
Sipwell have you read on elfvoetball that he is off to everton i am not sure how reliabel that site is. i usually go on hin.be as they seem to have a lot of good sources
http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/244937_de-camargo-vertrekt-naar-fulham-en-jol (http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/244937_de-camargo-vertrekt-naar-fulham-en-jol)
To fulham you mean!
Quote from: sipwell on January 29, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
He has the Brazilian ability to receive a ball in his feet, pass it back and run 'in the hole'. His aerial ability has more to do with the fact that he can head a ball in. His type of player is what Fulham needs: a player who will be in the box when one of our agile wingers centers it.
More like Pogrebnyak than Zamora then. That's good. One wonders what this means for Petric, but certainly Petric is not good in the air.
Quote from: MJG on January 29, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
not working so need plan b
Or we make it work. We have Berbatov and Ruiz who would thrive if we can add a creative central midfielder. What happens to them if we return to the Hodgson era miss out the midfield style?
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
I agree with your point but do feel its always good to have some variety and flexibility in playing style.
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PMQuote from: MJG on January 29, 2013, 05:33:53 PMQuote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PMI may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
not working so need plan b
Or we make it work. We have Berbatov and Ruiz who would thrive if we can add a creative central midfielder. What happens to them if we return to the Hodgson era miss out the midfield style?
I don't disagree but Jol seems incapable at this time of doing that. As for the Hodgson comment that's completely wrong. We were not long ball with him.
Quote from: sipwell on January 29, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
He has the Brazilian ability to receive a ball in his feet, pass it back and run 'in the hole'. His aerial ability has more to do with the fact that he can head a ball in. His type of player is what Fulham needs: a player who will be in the box when one of our agile wingers centers it.
Thats good. It sounds like he's got more variety to his play than some are giving him credit.
Quote from: sipwell on January 29, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on January 29, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
Sipwell have you read on elfvoetball that he is off to everton i am not sure how reliabel that site is. i usually go on hin.be as they seem to have a lot of good sources
http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/244937_de-camargo-vertrekt-naar-fulham-en-jol (http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/244937_de-camargo-vertrekt-naar-fulham-en-jol)
To fulham you mean!
I was shown it today by a guy at work and it was claimig evertn had agreed a fee and he was on the way. that was around 11:30ish this morning. am glad the story has changed
Quote from: MJG on January 29, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 29, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: The Moose on January 29, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
I may be alone in hoping we don't sign him, that is if he is a target man. I for one don't want to return to lumping the ball onto a big man's head. I like the idea of passing it out from defence, playing a short passing game.
not working so need plan b
Or we make it work. We have Berbatov and Ruiz who would thrive if we can add a creative central midfielder. What happens to them if we return to the Hodgson era miss out the midfield style?
I don't disagree but Jol seems incapable at this time of doing that. As for the Hodgson comment that's completely wrong. We were not long ball with him.
Jol is incapable because he doesn't have the players. We need to get the right players in central midfield to link defence to attack. At the moment we have no attack because Berbatov and Ruiz are having to drop into midfield.
I know we didn't play long ball with Hodgson per se, but we used a target man so we frequently did use long ball tactics if not always.
Game over. He apparently just signed for Hoffenheim for EUR 6m.
Quote from: Swiss72 on January 29, 2013, 05:57:14 PM
Game over. He apparently just signed for Hoffenheim for EUR 6m.
Where is that being reported?
Yeah, De Camargo to Hoffenheim. Done deal.
some admin should close the thread then :D
... are there any reports of this then??
Yes, he's signed for Hoffenheim but we've signed his dodgy knees. :scarf:
http://www.lanouvellegazette.be/652728/article/sports/foot-etranger/2013-01-29/exclusif-igor-de-camargo-pour-25-ans-a-hoffenheim (http://www.lanouvellegazette.be/652728/article/sports/foot-etranger/2013-01-29/exclusif-igor-de-camargo-pour-25-ans-a-hoffenheim)
Mr Fulham tweeted it earlier. Ah well.
Sky says he's on loan at Hoffenheim until the summer, but either way he's not headed here.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8454731/Transfer-news-Hoffenheim-sign-Igor-de-Camargo-on-loan (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8454731/Transfer-news-Hoffenheim-sign-Igor-de-Camargo-on-loan)
Next....?
He didn't sign because there was only one thread devoted to him signing. If he'd have had 5 or 6 like Emanuelson, ... .
Quote from: HatterDon on January 30, 2013, 06:26:45 PM
He didn't sign because there was only one thread devoted to him signing. If he'd have had 5 or 6 like Emanuelson, ... .
Let's start a few threads for Manolev then...
