if you look at their position at the moment rock bottem its not looking good for them but they have possibly the easiest fixtures left after utd of course they have
southampton away.
sunderland at home.
villa away.
us away
wigan home.
everton away
stoke home
reading away
arsenal away
liverpool away
i dont think they will get anything from united everton arsenal and liverpool but they are more than capable of getting points from these other games looking at there fixture list i think they have a real shout of staying up even though i hope the dont yer thoughts are they destined for the drop or can they do it????
I think they'll drop, so far adrift & a divided squad, it seems unlikely they'll win more than 2 or 3 in the run in. They seem to be struggling to sell their allocation of 3,000 for the Cottage as they can't stomach another loss after last season. If they do get relegated there must be a danger of a mass exodus that may include the Chairman, manager & their 2 half decent players.
they wont get a single point away from that list
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 16, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Then why post in the thread, it was fairly obvious from the title it was a QPR thread :wink:
Personally, I think they have a chance. Would like them to go down, as they are everything wrong with modern football in the top flight, but if they get on a run they can quickly climb out. After all, they have Reading and Villa in that run of games.
Won't be easy for them, and they would have to start producing fairly quickly, but it would not surprise me.
No but it will be close. All hinges on their two January signings.
It would help if you put all the games in
MAN UTD HOME
southampton away.
sunderland at home.
villa away.
us away
wigan home.
everton away
stoke home
reading away
arsenal HOME
NEWCATLE HOME
liverpool away
They are going to need six point to even stand a chance of getting out of the bottom three (assuming none of the other three get any points)
If Villa, Reading or Wigan go on a mini run they then need 12 points minimum to catch Newcastle
They need a win and a draw to overtake Wigan and two wins and a draw to over take Reading (assuming they lose their games)
I cant see them getting anything from their next two games so by that time they will be even further adrift
So basically NO
Shame LOL
Can they survive? Yes. Do I want them to? NO I DO NOT!!!! Would have preferred to see Mr Ambition take them down though! :dead horse:
You say yourself that they will get zilch from united everton arsenal and liverpool. If they win the rest that only gives them another 18 points. That totals 35 points and they need 40 at least I think that when the pressure is on they will struggle to get the points. I think that they will be relegated by some distance
I hope they go down and we can nag a few of their players, although it'll be a shame though if Fernandes leaves them and the club dissolves with financial difficulties. As much as I hate them I don't want them to do a Portsmouth, which could very easily happen.
Quote from: DukeTyrion on February 16, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 16, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Then why post in the thread, it was fairly obvious from the title it was a QPR thread :wink:
Personally, I think they have a chance. Would like them to go down, as they are everything wrong with modern football in the top flight, but if they get on a run they can quickly climb out. After all, they have Reading and Villa in that run of games.
Won't be easy for them, and they would have to start producing fairly quickly, but it would not surprise me.
If it is a QPR thread then why is it on friends of Fulham then?
Quote from: epsomraver on February 16, 2013, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: DukeTyrion on February 16, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 16, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Then why post in the thread, it was fairly obvious from the title it was a QPR thread :wink:
Personally, I think they have a chance. Would like them to go down, as they are everything wrong with modern football in the top flight, but if they get on a run they can quickly climb out. After all, they have Reading and Villa in that run of games.
Won't be easy for them, and they would have to start producing fairly quickly, but it would not surprise me.
If it is a QPR thread then why is it on friends of Fulham then?
if you've got a problem with anything other than fulham being discussed perhaps you should take that up with the moderators. perhaps they'll feel the same and ban the >90% of members that mention things other than fulham every now and then. the thread title includes the warnings "nfr" and "Qpr" so i don't think it's fair to have a go. in fact personally, i think a discussion of our biggest, local rival's lack of progress is fulham-related anyway
and yeah i do reckon they can survive but i hope they don't. they've got the talent
Well said Mr. Angus
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 16, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Local derby, history, dislike - pretty relevant to us if you ask me.
Life next season without playing QPR would also affect us.
I hate QPR with a passion. It's the first result after Fulham that I look for, so this is an entirely relevant thread in my eyes.
Two consecutive wins would change everything. Remember how we were written off by almost everyone during the Great Escape season? But they need to do something soon if they're to stay up.
Quote from: DukeTyrion on February 16, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 16, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Do not care as they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Then why post in the thread, it was fairly obvious from the title it was a QPR thread :wink:
Personally, I think they have a chance. Would like them to go down, as they are everything wrong with modern football in the top flight, but if they get on a run they can quickly climb out. After all, they have Reading and Villa in that run of games.
Won't be easy for them, and they would have to start producing fairly quickly, but it would not surprise me.
So what is a QPR thread doing on the Fulham website. What are QPR supporters doing on a Fulham website.
Quote from: sunburywhite on February 16, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
It would help if you put all the games in
MAN UTD HOME
southampton away.
sunderland at home.
villa away.
us away
wigan home.
everton away
stoke home
reading away
arsenal HOME
NEWCATLE HOME
liverpool away
They are going to need six point to even stand a chance of getting out of the bottom three (assuming none of the other three get any points)
If Villa, Reading or Wigan go on a mini run they then need 12 points minimum to catch Newcastle
They need a win and a draw to overtake Wigan and two wins and a draw to over take Reading (assuming they lose their games)
I cant see them getting anything from their next two games so by that time they will be even further adrift
So basically NO
Shame LOL
ya forgot those games my bad!
The last day of the transfer window will not be the same next season when they have gone. Laughing stock.
It isnt't for me, a humble man or anyone else to decide what is or isn't relevant or "allowed" on this forum.
That is down to the mods. If they say threads titled "NFR QPR" are not for this site then we all accept that.
Thus far they haven't, so it's a valid discussion point.
My son and I have been FFC fans for along time and don't give a stuff about QPR - doesn't mean we don't want to talk about them though ;)
I want to talk about qpr even more so at the moment I want to laugh at the pain and enjoy there relgation. And mock there fans and am praying we give them a right beating and hope its the last time we have the chance to do it as they have a one way ticket down.
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 17, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
Fine but go on twitter or facebook where all the discussion are irrelevant to everything.
I missed the bit where the forum says Fulham subjects ONLY!
I enjoy many of the threads on here, from Jokes, to Dishwashers, to thread about other teams.
If this forum is ABOUT Fulham only, rather than the views of Fulham Fans, then it will become a pretty boring site.
Oh, and you are STILL free to ignore threads that do not interest you!
Somebody clearly isn't getting any at the moment.
I think that their run in is going to be really interesting. I don't see them as going down having only picked up a couple more points, I can see them pushing it right to the wire and with a fair wind, they could do it. They certainly have the talent.
As long as we can get to safety sooner rather than later, then I am going to sit back, relax and watch this relegation battle unfold. It's going to be so much more interesting than the title race.
This is a Fulham fans forum first and foremost.
But of course you are allowed to post stuff about other teams.
And we welcome fans from other clubs.
The only things we will get aggie about is when posts get personal or abusive in nature, or the subject matter is likely to cause offence (which is why we tend to snuff out threads relating to politics, religion, Ernie Clay and so forth).
Most non-Fulham related posts tend to have NFR in the header, or are obvious from the title anyway, so it is down to personal preference as to whether it gets read or not.
In this particular instance, I don't see much wrong with a spot of speculation as to whether that lot down the road will stay up or not.
Cheers
Burt
They were in bad shape last season and had a tough run in but managed to pull the points out of the bag. I wouldn't write them off quite yet.
Hopefully we will be able to do so after they get tonked at the Cottage.
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 17, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: sumofallparts on February 17, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
It isnt't for me, a humble man or anyone else to decide what is or isn't relevant or "allowed" on this forum.
That is down to the mods. If they say threads titled "NFR QPR" are not for this site then we all accept that.
Thus far they haven't, so it's a valid discussion point.
My son and I have been FFC fans for along time and don't give a stuff about QPR - doesn't mean we don't want to talk about them though ;)
Fine but go on twitter or facebook where all the discussion are irrelevant to everything.
If you don't like it, please complain to the Mods, don't spoil threads you don't want to see by adding irrelevant comments.
As Burt mentioned, this is a Fulham MB, but we do allow non-inflammatory subjects to appear. In this case, the health of both another Prem and geographically-close team might well be of interest.
Thanks,
Plenty of threads get started about other teams and no one complains about it. The fact that some complain about QPR being brought up only reinforces that we care about them more than other teams... just like QPR fans who say they don't care about Fulham and can then give you 1000 reasons why they don't care. And of course, talking about QPR is more relevant than, say, Stoke. Not only are they local rivals, but the Hughes connection is still there (as this is mostly his team, one which supposedly was built to match his ambition), and there is also a great deal of interest in QPR among people who watch the Premier League and English football in general. When Portsmouth was looking like going down a few years ago, it wasn't just Southampton fans who were watching.
As for whether they'll go down, they are 11 points from 16th place (counting goal difference), so unless someone completely collapses, then realistically there are only three teams they can catch. And all three of them are 4-7 points ahead already. If one of those three goes on a decent run it's all over. I didn't think last season was a great escape for them (maybe if they had gotten the result at City and had needed it), this year I think it would be. If Arsenal, Everton, United and Liverpool are down as losses (though they could get something at home vs Arsenal as they might have gotten something at the Emirates if not for M'Bia's red), I think their best chance is to find 4-5 wins, 2-3 draws, and hope that the other three are worse. Not impossible, but they need dropoff to be below 35 points, and even then they need to improve dramatically. Don't see it happening even if their key players get fit.
Quote from: Burt on February 17, 2013, 01:47:45 PM
This is a Fulham fans forum first and foremost.
But of course you are allowed to post stuff about other teams.
And we welcome fans from other clubs.
The only things we will get aggie about is when posts get personal or abusive in nature, or the subject matter is likely to cause offence (which is why we tend to snuff out threads relating to politics, religion, Ernie Clay and so forth).
Most non-Fulham related posts tend to have NFR in the header, or are obvious from the title anyway, so it is down to personal preference as to whether it gets read or not.
In this particular instance, I don't see much wrong with a spot of speculation as to whether that lot down the road will stay up or not.
Cheers
Burt
well said bud
Of course they can survive, doesn't look good for them though I think they will go down with Wigan & Villa/Reading
They will definitely go down and probably next season as well.
I think they're going down. Of all the teams i hate my absolute hate for ha ha ha ha is on a whole new level. I am keeping everything crossed ( fingers, toes etc) that they not only go down but they soon end up in the same situation as one of Twitchy's former clubs Portsmouth. I would get immense satisfaction at that.
