Fulham: Schwarzer; Riether, Senderos, Hangeland, Riise; Ruiz, Enoh, Karagounis, Emanuelson; Berbatov, Petric
Subs: Etheridge, Richardson, Hughes, Manolev, Frimpong, Frei, Rodallega
Chelsea: Cech; Ivanovic, Terry, Luiz, Bertrand; Ramires, Lampard; Moses, Mata, Hazard; Torres
Subs: Turnbull, Oscar, Mikel, Azpilicueta, Benayoun, Ake, Ba
Streams: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=199487&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=199487&part=sports)
Ba starting and benched?
Quote from: Zu-Meister on April 17, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
Ba starting and benched?
Blame FFC's Twitter for that.
Interesting to see Emanuelson and Petric starting. Got a good feeling about tonight! COYW
A lot of people called for Petric to start with Berba, tonight we'll see how that pans out. I'm sceptical, but I hope I'm wrong. Fair play to Martin for dropping Manolev and being more positive.
Ruiz on the wing is always a gamble for me, just not quick enough.
any chance he has put ruiz out wide? god, i hope not.
i guess the team knows how much we feel about the game? That said, I'm horribly indifferent. I want to want it more
Excellent. Petric on
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It's about attitude tonight - get in amongst them and we can win this!! COYW!!
Quote from: BedsFFC on April 17, 2013, 07:40:15 PM
any chance he has put ruiz out wide? god, i hope not.
i guess the team knows how much we feel about the game? That said, I'm horribly indifferent. I want to want it more
He has put him out wide but he will drift in. That will make Riether less effective though.
What a ball in from Reither. Sign him up now Jol
Who does Torres think he is with the mask? Facundo Sava? Been there, done that, son. You're supposed to score before putting on the mask !
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on April 17, 2013, 08:08:22 PM
Who does Torres think he is with the mask? Facundo Sava? Been there, done that, son. You're supposed to score before putting on the mask !
He is the modern Spanish equivalent of Zorro....Sorro
oh yeah... Zero !
Ian Wright is a horrendous commentator..
Is it Wrighty?...thought it was Liam Rosenior...glad the wife's gone to sleep. she'd be proved (w)right. Guess the Arsenal comment makes sense now.
Kara's having some great shots
Obviously I meant Leeroy Rosenior :Get Coat gif:
Oh, I quite like his comments, Jamie.
Berbatov is being closely marked by Ramirez..... Petric to score for Fulham... you heard it here first.
sh1t the bed..0-1 :016:
Who let Sideshow Bob out? Annoyingly a great strike
Wonder strike, not much to do about that one..
Was coming by us letting them come on by defending too deep. Been doing that a lot lately.
People ask why Ruiz plays, there's your answer. Absolutely stunning vision and execution.
You know, I had this vision of it finishing 1-1 today, and that Luiz scored for Chelsea..Berba with the other, a header from a Riether cross :dft009:
We defend deep as we have no pace up front.
Petric is poor, very poor. Chelsea defending brillinantly and we need movement off the ball.
Cheeky little shot Urby
Urby Emanuelson welcome to Fulham, finally showing why he's so highly rated.
Agreed Moose. He has a lot of class. He could be a real jewel for Fulham. Hope we sign him permanently.
Urby's beginning to look like the player I'd hoped he would be.
Cr@pola
What the love is this
Argh why Riether?
Come on that was way to easy.. Poor defending :(
loving john terry
UNBELIEVABLE! THat is stonewall, stonewall! The booking really takes the biscuit. If that was Lampard that's a penalty. Arghhhhhh.
Ruiz booked for diving!
We've tried Petric and once again he's been poor. He never performs when he starts.
Nothing going forward and punished for being so slow. Second to alot of the balls and need to actually want to score
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
We've tried Petric and once again he's been poor. He never performs when he starts.
Agreed. Impact sub I think.
Also.. I'm pretty sure that was a penalty. :(
May as well give Rodallega a chance, couldn't be any worse than Petric. Alternatively Frei and put Berba up top.
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Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
We've tried Petric and once again he's been poor. He never performs when he starts.
Agreed. Impact sub I think.
Also.. I'm pretty sure that was a penalty. :(
Of course it was mate. Clearly.
refs a joke, ruiz tries to keep footing and falls over, was a pen, there right back should of been sent off 2 foot jump on petric. im telling you this ref loves chelsea and there is corruption
Ruiz should have scored and got a penalty at the start and end of that half. Up until Luiz's shot it was pretty even though, real shame Reither switched off at the back post for the second.
Gonna be on of them days from the looks of it... unless it turns into Arsenal earlier this year. That'd be fun.
Petric has played himself out of a new contract for me. He's literally done nothing. Rodallega on and buy a new striker in the summer.
Ruiz has been quite good for me. Emanuelson outstanding, kara and enoh very good, berba always a threat.
Not sure how we're 2 down really.
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 17, 2013, 08:35:27 PM
You know, I had this vision of it finishing 1-1 today, and that Luiz scored for Chelsea..Berba with the other, a header from a Riether cross :dft009:
Hope you didn't put too much on it :D But it gave me hope for a minute.
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Urby been the positive story so far and we should have got the panelty I think -Looked like it atleast.
i thought we played really well in spurts. I like the look of enoh, emanuelson, and Karagounis. Berba has been on the ball a lot and we should not be 2-0 down. Ruiz was a penalty and Luiz shot was rediculous. Nothing you can do about that. I think he we are still in this.
Sorry but no great shock. They are playing well within themselves. We have injury to pace players and we are always slow going forward. Playing some nice football but once again have no cuting edge. Not sure Jol is even looking for a striker which is a shame.
Nice bits but no finished article.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on April 17, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
Petric has played himself out of a new contract for me. He's literally done nothing. Rodallega on and buy a new striker in the summer.
Ruiz has been quite good for me. Emanuelson outstanding, kara and enoh very good, berba always a threat.
Not sure how we're 2 down really.
He's a decent impact sub but on reduced terms. I'm not keen on Rodallega though. If we can get one really good striker with pace I'd be happy, I think we need it too, we're crying out for off the ball movement.
We've been poor but the ref has ruined the game.
It's been really quite even apart from the score - although with both Emmanuelson and Ruiz playing wide they are both floating to the middle so, so often. Could do with Frei on for Petric moving either/or Emmanuelson and Ruiz in the middle.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 17, 2013, 08:53:36 PM
Sorry but no great shock. They are playing well within themselves. We have injury to pace players and we are always slow going forward. Playing some nice football but once again have no cuting edge. Not sure Jol is even looking for a striker which is a shame.
Nice bits but no finished article.
How would you know what Jol is looking for?
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 17, 2013, 08:56:45 PM
It's been really quite even apart from the score - although with both Emmanuelson and Ruiz playing wide they are both floating to the middle so, so often. Could do with Frei on for Petric moving either/or Emmanuelson and Ruiz in the middle.
Frei cuts in too so how will that give us width?
I just love Gentleman Jim. He never says the word ******* , he always says them, they or their. Classic commentator.
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
Frei cuts in too so how will that give us width?
Not necessarily for width (unless he get's put on the right) but for pace, and for not being Petric (today).
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Frei cuts in too so how will that give us width?
Not necessarily for width (unless he get's put on the right) but for pace, and for not being Petric (today).
In that case I agree. Pleasing to see Berba is actually making runs and that Ruiz has discovered this new thing called getting in the box. So yes that would be my preference, Frei for Petric.
Have to say if that was Senderos letting Terry get a free header he'd be verbally crucified.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on April 17, 2013, 08:53:36 PM
Sorry but no great shock. They are playing well within themselves. We have injury to pace players and we are always slow going forward. Playing some nice football but once again have no cuting edge. Not sure Jol is even looking for a striker which is a shame.
Nice bits but no finished article.
How would you know what Jol is looking for?
Only what was said at the press conf. Glad if we are looking for pace up the middle.
Get Petric off now before we concede again. He's absolutely useless.
Bollards no gentleman jim no stream poxy work comps ......
Do something Martin for goodness sake. We could get hammered tonight.
He's far from useless, we are just being outplayed.
It happens.
What the hell is that chant from Chelsea? It's been going on for 20 minutes now and is destroying my brain.
We really need to make some changes. I'd like to see Frei for Petric; pace, young, contracted - he could do with the minutes, and adds something different.
something fishy is going on with the officials
Quote from: SaltfordWhite on April 17, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
He's far from useless, we are just being outplayed.
It happens.
He is tonight, he's offering nothing.
Quote from: Craven Mad on April 17, 2013, 09:19:58 PM
We really need to make some changes. I'd like to see Frei for Petric; pace, young, contracted - he could do with the minutes, and adds something different.
Me too.
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Quote from: SaltfordWhite on April 17, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
He's far from useless, we are just being outplayed.
It happens.
He is tonight, he's offering nothing.
After that attempt I can't disagree! [/don't know the smiley codes]
ETA: We are being over run in midfield, and that is where I think that the issue lies. I've no idea how anybody would change that, mind.
why has nothing changed? very predictable. Shake it up!!!!
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Quote from: SaltfordWhite on April 17, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
He's far from useless, we are just being outplayed.
It happens.
He is tonight, he's offering nothing.
I think he just doesn't work with Berba. Only Ruiz has learnt how to fit. But I think we could do with the pace out wide, to push past Berbs & Bryan, offering something different. Urby & Frei could do the business IMO. Petric is only useful when Berba isn't about; both too slow, with Ruiz, to be useful..
Oscar coming on for them? Foxtrot Oscar !
Odd choice, Hugo for Riise?? Urby LB; Hugo, RM; Ruiz, LM?
Well that's a change that few would have second guessed.
Ian Wright is a horrible co commentator, full of nonsense and no substance
Few would have second guessed it because Riises been playing well and exploiting good space
Petric save off the line.. Against Senderos! Doing himself no favours..
Unbelievable! Christ almighty, if Petric leaves that that's in. Get this man off right now.
Miss of the season there by Petric to cap a great performance by him!
Nice goalkeeping there petric.... You can only laugh at it I guess
3-0...
Great, I'm off to bed, had enough of this rubbish
Get Petric off for Frei.
That twit again
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Get Petric off for Frei.
I even take Etheridge for him right now.
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Get Petric off for Frei.
Nothing to lose now. Even if it's only for the time - get Frei on, please!
May as well get Frei on just for the experience. What do we have to lose?
Conspiracy theory here, maybe we're not playing him to put off Galatasaray if the rumours of interest are true?
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Get Petric off for Frei.
Nothing to lose now. Even if it's only for the time - get Frei on, please!
Exactly.
this nothing season ended at the weekend, so who cares
from now on try a few kids or something
I hate John Terry so much.
Frimpong for Kara.. Negative change IMO, at 3-0 what's the point in bringing on a DM?? Particularly if we don't have a buy-option on frimpong..
One of the worst performances i've ever seen by a fulham player by Petric
tru;y woeful, embarrassing performance. Worst since the loss to qpr. I'm off!
Jol out
Is just me but I think the score flatters chelsea
At least Enoh has impressed yet again and Emanuelson had a good first half. That's about it really.
The first half was very even, his second one however has been atrocious.
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 09:37:54 PM
At least Enoh has impressed yet again and Emanuelson had a good first half. That's about it really.
Completely agree with this. Enoh is a v.similar player to Ramires, and exactly what we need. If we could keep Urby, I would be incredibly happy; looked great.
Finally. Half an hour too late.
Goodbye Petric. Hello Frei.
81 mins late
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 09:37:54 PM
At least Enoh has impressed yet again and Emanuelson had a good first half. That's about it really.
Very true and once again proven that Jol is not the man to give youth a chance at least so far, shame really :(
Quote from: li_special on April 17, 2013, 09:36:42 PM
Is just me but I think the score flatters chelsea
:plus one:
Some performances have been ok. But poor overall play with another blunt attack. Still to be convinced by Jol but we have plenty of injury problems and a poor squad which goes back to the start of the season. Another performance that lacks consistancy.
Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Quote from: T.G. on April 17, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
Great block Ruiz!
Truly dire performance. I guess that's the 40 points effect. Still really disappointed with Petric and with Jol's subs. The referee had a shocker too.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on April 17, 2013, 09:51:05 PM
Quote from: T.G. on April 17, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
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Jol out
Get lost
No, Jol out, he has no idea, we are so slow doing anything!
Jol out to build on what has proved to be a good transitional season.
Just wish he would have more of our young players in and around the first team(atleast have a few on the bench) and a starter now and then. But hope to see more of that next season with a few signings and having had this year as transition.
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Jol out
Get lost
No, Jol out, he has no idea, we are so slow doing anything!
No john Jol in, is jol playing on the pitch, dont think so. jol cant just flip a switch and berbatov is taking on there how team. every team has a flat game. just a shame it was against chelsea.
we will defo build next season
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Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
Ruiz was so bad, why he didn't go in with his head I have no idea.. and he just blocked rodellega's free kick for no apparent reason.
I feel the premier league is just not the league for him... sorry Ruiz, I'm not on your side anymore.
Need MAJOR changes this summer.
Out (just from todays XI):
Schwarzer- still good, but too old
Senderos- awful
Karagounis- too slow, can pick out a pass but getting on
Ruiz- never gonna make it in the premiership it seems. Very gifted player, who i'm sure will thrive in la liga
Petric- today was dreadful and sadly, he has been poor recently.
Get in emanuelson at all costs. Get riether in permanently.
This is the team i'd like to see (unlikely I admit)
Stekelenburg
Riether Amorebieta Hangeland Richardson
Enoh Fer
Dejagah Berbatov Urby
Bony
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Jol out
Get lost
No, Jol out, he has no idea, we are so slow doing anything!
I'm presuming that you are drunk.
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It wasn't a bad show, they took their chances and that was about that, really.
Onwards and (hopefully) upwards, Fulham!
:plus one:
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Jol out
Get lost
No, Jol out, he has no idea, we are so slow doing anything!
Jol out to build on what has proved to be a good transitional season.
Another dismal effort on both offense and defense, Senderos typically clueless about marking the main threats at the back, Petric and Ruiz unable to p*ss in the ocean, lots of effort from The Greek, one good chance from Urby...and why was Berbatov playing behind Petric? Sure, the manager told him to, but what was he thinking?
Understood that Chels playing for something and we weren't, but a sorry performance for all the Fulham fans paying good money for those tickets. If the team's not going to show up, why not forfeit and refund the tickets? Bah.
epsomraver my good friend, haven't seen you around this board in weeks, how nice of you stop by today!
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Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
Ruiz was so bad, why he didn't go in with his head I have no idea.. and he just blocked rodellega's free kick for no apparent reason.
I feel the premier league is just not the league for him... sorry Ruiz, I'm not on your side anymore.
He didn't block the free kick it hit him, and he's done plenty tonight. Played five superb through balls and should've if the ref had been half decent won us a penalty. Not too mention several good interceptions.
He was fine tonight, one of the better performers in fact.
Quote from: BillNRoc on April 17, 2013, 10:01:22 PM
Another dismal effort on both offense and defense, Senderos typically clueless about marking the main threats at the back, Petric and Ruiz unable to p*ss in the ocean, lots of effort from The Greek, one good chance from Urby...and why was Berbatov playing behind Petric? Sure, the manager told him to, but what was he thinking?
Understood that Chels playing for something and we weren't, but a sorry performance for all the Fulham fans paying good money for those tickets. If the team's not going to show up, why not forfeit and refund the tickets? Bah.
Plenty of people called for Petric to start. As for Senderos what has he done wrong exactly?
Quote from: BillNRoc on April 17, 2013, 10:01:22 PM
Another dismal effort on both offense and defense, Senderos typically clueless about marking the main threats at the back, Petric and Ruiz unable to p*ss in the ocean, lots of effort from The Greek, one good chance from Urby...and why was Berbatov playing behind Petric? Sure, the manager told him to, but what was he thinking?
Understood that Chels playing for something and we weren't, but a sorry performance for all the Fulham fans paying good money for those tickets. If the team's not going to show up, why not forfeit and refund the tickets? Bah.
???
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Jol out
Get lost
No, Jol out, he has no idea, we are so slow doing anything!
We're 10th having lost Dempsey and Dembele and not replacing them. What more do you expect?
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Quote from: T.G. on April 17, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
Ruiz was so bad, why he didn't go in with his head I have no idea.. and he just blocked rodellega's free kick for no apparent reason.
I feel the premier league is just not the league for him... sorry Ruiz, I'm not on your side anymore.
He didn't block the free kick it hit him, and he's done plenty tonight. Played five superb through balls and should've if the ref had been half decent won us a penalty. Not too mention several good interceptions.
He was fine tonight, one of the better performers in fact.
Had a very poor game by his standards. Mind you, a poor game by his standards still involved winning a stonewall penalty and some lovely link up play with Berbatov and Emmaneulson. One of his worst games of the season, and he still looked light years ahead of Petric. Fulham looked at their best when he started playing centrally, but shunting him out wide to accomodate Petric was imho what cost us today.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on April 17, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Need MAJOR changes this summer.
Out (just from todays XI):
Schwarzer- still good, but too old
Senderos- awful
Karagounis- too slow, can pick out a pass but getting on
Ruiz- never gonna make it in the premiership it seems. Very gifted player, who i'm sure will thrive in la liga
Petric- today was dreadful and sadly, he has been poor recently.
Get in emanuelson at all costs. Get riether in permanently.
This is the team i'd like to see (unlikely I admit)
Stekelenburg
Riether Amorebieta Hangeland Richardson
Enoh Fer
Dejagah Berbatov Urby
Bony
Deary deary me. I'm not going to make personal attacks but I strongly disagree with pretty much all of that. For goodness sake man how much money do you think we have? To sign Fer, Stekelenburg (who has ruled out moving) and Bony would cost about £25-£30 million.
Jol out
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Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
Ruiz was so bad, why he didn't go in with his head I have no idea.. and he just blocked rodellega's free kick for no apparent reason.
I feel the premier league is just not the league for him... sorry Ruiz, I'm not on your side anymore.
He didn't block the free kick it hit him, and he's done plenty tonight. Played five superb through balls and should've if the ref had been half decent won us a penalty. Not too mention several good interceptions.
He was fine tonight, one of the better performers in fact.
Had a very poor game by his standards. Mind you, a poor game by his standards still involved winning a stonewall penalty and some lovely link up play with Berbatov and Emmaneulson. One of his worst games of the season, and he still looked light years ahead of Petric. Fulham looked at their best when he started playing centrally, but shunting him out wide to accomodate Petric was imho what cost us today.
Feel you're being very harsh. Agree Petric shouldn't have started but I can see why Jol did start him. I also imagine there are a lot of eggs of faces tonight, so many people said "start Petric".
Hey let's play the numbers game! Can't add wages but let's just look at transfer fees!
Chelsea subs:
£23.5m for £7m
£32m for £20m
£18m for £16m
Equaling: £116.5m
Fulham subs:
£0 for £2m
£0 for £0
£0 for £0
Equaling: £2m
Now, guess who lost 3-0!
Right, I'm going to move on from this. Can't change the result now.
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Things are not as bad as you think they are. We were kinda unlucky and missed some great chances. Shocking performance by Petric, Berbatov and Kara fought a lot and did well for me. Ruiz is playing dreadful tho...
Had the penalty been given, or Petric not ballsed up the Senderos header the second half would have been very different.
And the Ruiz miss in the 3rd minute...
It wasn't a great performance, but the scoreline flatters chelsea, and the David Luiz goal came from nothing. Overall, a disappointing result, but from what's been said, Jol intends to build over the summer. I have faith.
Ruiz was so bad, why he didn't go in with his head I have no idea.. and he just blocked rodellega's free kick for no apparent reason.
I feel the premier league is just not the league for him... sorry Ruiz, I'm not on your side anymore.
He didn't block the free kick it hit him, and he's done plenty tonight. Played five superb through balls and should've if the ref had been half decent won us a penalty. Not too mention several good interceptions.
He was fine tonight, one of the better performers in fact.
Had a very poor game by his standards. Mind you, a poor game by his standards still involved winning a stonewall penalty and some lovely link up play with Berbatov and Emmaneulson. One of his worst games of the season, and he still looked light years ahead of Petric. Fulham looked at their best when he started playing centrally, but shunting him out wide to accomodate Petric was imho what cost us today.
Feel you're being very harsh. Agree Petric shouldn't have started but I can see why Jol did start him. I also imagine there are a lot of eggs of faces tonight, so many people said "start Petric".
I was one of them, and I have to say I regret it. Not saying Jol made the wrong decision based on what we had on paper, but tactically speaking it was a gamble that really didn't come off.
Quote from: The Moose on April 17, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on April 17, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Need MAJOR changes this summer.
Out (just from todays XI):
Schwarzer- still good, but too old
Senderos- awful
Karagounis- too slow, can pick out a pass but getting on
Ruiz- never gonna make it in the premiership it seems. Very gifted player, who i'm sure will thrive in la liga
Petric- today was dreadful and sadly, he has been poor recently.
Get in emanuelson at all costs. Get riether in permanently.
This is the team i'd like to see (unlikely I admit)
Stekelenburg
Riether Amorebieta Hangeland Richardson
Enoh Fer
Dejagah Berbatov Urby
Bony
Deary deary me. I'm not going to make personal attacks but I strongly disagree with pretty much all of that. For goodness sake man how much money do you think we have? To sign Fer, Stekelenburg (who has ruled out moving) and Bony would cost about £25-£30 million.
Personal attacks for my opinion? I said it was unlikely but is it really that farfetched??
With all the money we've got over recent windows from sales (dempsey, dembele, zamora etc) throw in the wages we will have probably saved.
Then I'm saying to sell Ruiz which should get ~£8m.
Add another 10m that Al Fayed might be willing to put in, and are we far off £25m? no.
Look, I dont think this will happen and will get other cheaper options in, this is what I would like to happen. No need to disregard it so badly, just because you don't agree.
