Dutch reports suggesting this is a goer.
This will divide opinion I'm sure.
http://m.fcttoday.nl/mobielnieuwsarchief/id/1382 (http://m.fcttoday.nl/mobielnieuwsarchief/id/1382)
It says Chadli would be coming in exchange? And something about Martin Jol confirming already to the English media? Someone who speaks Dutch want to give me a better translation than Google's?
And it starts... I for one would rather stick with him & build round him
Bad news IMHO
Quote from: mangoputney on April 23, 2013, 10:18:27 PM
And it starts... I for one would rather stick with him & build round him
Bad news IMHO
Agreed.
on a positive at least if he went we could give Ronnie Minkwitz a run in the side! fp.gif
I'm actually ok with Ruiz leaving and getting someone else in. Maybe I am short sighted about this prospect, but truly he has not had the impact we all thought he would have. He doesn't score, he doesn't have the ability to dominate possession of the ball like Dembele did (I only use him as an example because he came to us scoring but didn't score much for us but found another role that he was truly great).
Ruiz does have some flair, makes some good passes, is improving defensively and is not as easily knocked off the ball as he was but in my opinion, has not paid the dividends that I think we all expected. There have been games where he has been the best player on the pitch but not consistent enough. Not to mention he has been injured too frequently.
I don't really know how good Chadl can be, but it would not be the end of the world to lose Ruiz if we get someone who can do the job for cheaper or is better than he has been in this league.
Until anything actually occurs, he is still Fulham and I still want him to do play well for us.
I'm also unsure on whether or not he likes this league and has the passion to play here.
Dembele is something of an oddity--a big strong man with the ability to pick his way through traffic with pace. So few today try to take it up the middle for more than 10 yards before dishing it off to an outlet. You watch him and think, surely now he will pass it. No? Well, now he will. Surely he must. No? He's still dribbling?! WTF? He's not Zidane or Berb, but he has a knack for making runs with the ball while somehow keeping it out of reach of the defender. I've replayed some of those runs over and over again on the telly, and I still marvel at the light touch combined with the physical power. Not too many like him out there. Ruiz is more skillful with the ball, but less effective--at least in the EPL. Maybe there's just that much more pushing and shoving allowed/expected in this league than on the continent... I just can't stand his inability to stay on his feet. Maybe we should try him in the middle more, as a pure distributor, where he has more 360-degree room to move away from defenders and has more passing options. There's an undeniable elegance to his game.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go back to Holland, as I've mentioned in other threads.
Not that phased to be honest..
I am only speaking for myself with this but I expect there's others who would share my view:
When Ruiz came I had enormous expectations given his reputation and statistics. I'd seen him play a few games on TV and thought he looked the part.
I was massively, disappointed when I first saw him play for Fulham and he took a very-very long time to really look like he'd ever fit in so I found myself readjusting my expectations and decided he was going to be yet another example of how Fulham spending big in the transfer market inevitably goes bad.
So whenever he started to look like he was worth a first team place I was so elated that I think I started to believe we might have got a decent deal. In reality, we paid more than £10m for someone we'll be lucky to get half that for when we move him on
He's quite slick looking at times and can deliver a great ball but I think he is without question the most underwhelming player given the hype and price tag I've seen in a long time.
If he stays, fair enough, but in my view he's nothing special.
the replacement would have to be class as fulham look absolute dog sh@te when he doesnt play. hope to god if this does happen jol does not consider for one min sticking berba in the hole as that has been proved time and time again that it doesnt work. i for one will be gutted if he is sold
Plenty of reasonable assessments here. i am on the fence. when he has been good he has been alright. and when he has been bad he has been alright. he's also played 2k+ minutes in a rebuilding season (of sorts) and we're safely lodged mid-table.
i'd rather he stick around but also that someone be brought in that could make him fight for his spot instead of playing whenever he's healthy. he seems to be a nice guy and, 9 assists aside, i'd be saddened if he left.
think he has built season on season and will have a great season next season if he can stay healthy throughout. Hope he stays, we will miss his creativity greatly if he goes in my opinion
This sounds like the dempsey, dembele and countless other players on loop. If he stays next season it would be the end of the world if he left. Im of the opinion of if they play in white to support them.
The difference between when Ruiz started playing for us, and Ruiz now, is astounding.
Something tells me that Ruiz is about to have the best season of his career, and I hope it's with us.
Very much hoping he stays.
I would be livid to see him go but I would understand the decision from Martin, he hasn't performed well enough.
If Ruiz was sold prehaps it may be a way to raise the funds to buy Enoh and another striker of quality such as Chadli which I feel would be a sacrifice worth making even though I do rate Bryan very highly
I hope he stays, no way will he leave surely more paper talk, Jol loves Ruiz
I am only guessing but hasn't he only one more year on his contract? If true we have to do something this summer in terms of agree an extension or sell.
We need to strengthen midfield and would benefit from having a target man to play with Berbatov. Jol likes pace on the flanks.
I don't think that Ruiz can be fitted into that system and whilst I'm more appreciative than critical of him this may be a tough decision that Jol has made. We also need a centre back and keeper with money needed to make Reither and Enoh's loan signings permanent.
Ruiz has worked hard to adapt to the Premier League but he certainly hasn't yet cracked it. I can see this happening.
I think this would be best for both parties. Im not convinced that Ruiz has been as creative (especially since Xmas) as people think. He has not adapted to the english game and he's has two seasons to do it.
He's not a 21 year old learning his way either. A player who has scored as many goals has he has should be scoring more for us than 5 in almost 60 appearances.
Berbatov for me is the more important player and I just think we would be better off as a TEAM without Ruiz(keeping Berbatov) and he is replaced with another quicker out and out striker.
I'll just add that I dont think he's going to sold in the summer anyway. Jol has too much invested in him.
I never heard of this website before. Dutch press make absolutely no mention of it. Twente did sign Ebecelio from Arsenal.
I think Ruiz has been badly served by Fulham. We buy him and then ask him to play in a system he wasn't used to where he has to defend more than attack. So I agree that the system we have doesn't help us see the best of him. I would only be content to see Ruiz go if we could buy a proper forward and to help in other areas.
I blame Jol. :dft011:
Quote from: fulhamben on April 24, 2013, 02:22:21 AM
the replacement would have to be class as fulham look absolute dog sh@te when he doesnt play. hope to god if this does happen jol does not consider for one min sticking berba in the hole as that has been proved time and time again that it doesnt work. i for one will be gutted if he is sold
Agree - I think the last few games he has been one of our best players and especially against Arsenal.
He is beating players, passing well and shows strength on the ball which, I agree, he didn't originally.
If other players are not moving off the ball he has no outlet just like Berba. This is where we have problems (discussed many times on here) The Midfield. We knew this when we lost the D's and Murph and hopefully this will be corrected this summer. Anyway - If we let Ruiz go, we are going backwards - again!
I don't want him to leave, i think he is hugely talented. Any way i'll miss his hair
Quote from: Berserker on April 24, 2013, 08:36:59 AM
I don't want him to leave, i think he is hugely talented. Any way i'll miss his hair
That is such a girly quote!! :005:
Quote from: fulhamben on April 24, 2013, 02:22:21 AM
the replacement would have to be class as fulham look absolute dog sh@te when he doesnt play. hope to god if this does happen jol does not consider for one min sticking berba in the hole as that has been proved time and time again that it doesnt work. i for one will be gutted if he is sold
:plus one:
I think Ruiz has begun to prove his worth this season, and has defintely worked hard and been involved when he's played.
I think it would be shame if we lose him, because I think that next year he might really come good - like Dembele really came good after a couple of seasons.
I really want him to stay. People compare him with Dembele but how many goals did he score? I would play a 4-3-2-1 system at home with Ruiz & Berba playing side by side just behind a strong pacy front man. Petric & Rodders are not tht player. The MF would be Dejadah on the right & Enoh in the middle & either Kaca or Frei on the left.
Away I would go for 4-4-1-1. The problem is whether the new striker or Berba play up top with Ruiz dropping back
Quote from: RaySmith on April 24, 2013, 09:12:02 AM
I think Ruiz has begun to prove his worth this season, and has defintely worked hard and been involved when he's played.
I think it would be shame if we lose him, because I think that next year he might really come good - like Dembele really came good after a couple of seasons.
Demeble came good halfway through his second season.
He's hugely skilful and the only player we have likely to deliver a killer, defence-splitting pass. On the downside he still doesn't look quite up to it physically and as we saw on Saturday, is far too easily dispossessed, plus which three goals this season is a pretty poor return for someone playing in his position. I'd be sorry to see him go, but have ben disappointed in him overall.
That was balanced, thoughtful, full of good sense and realistic. Are you sure you belong on these boards?
Quote from: RidgeRider on April 23, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
I'm actually ok with Ruiz leaving and getting someone else in. Maybe I am short sighted about this prospect, but truly he has not had the impact we all thought he would have. He doesn't score, he doesn't have the ability to dominate possession of the ball like Dembele did (I only use him as an example because he came to us scoring but didn't score much for us but found another role that he was truly great).
Ruiz does have some flair, makes some good passes, is improving defensively and is not as easily knocked off the ball as he was but in my opinion, has not paid the dividends that I think we all expected. There have been games where he has been the best player on the pitch but not consistent enough. Not to mention he has been injured too frequently.
I don't really know how good Chadl can be, but it would not be the end of the world to lose Ruiz if we get someone who can do the job for cheaper or is better than he has been in this league.
Until anything actually occurs, he is still Fulham and I still want him to do play well for us.
I'm also unsure on whether or not he likes this league and has the passion to play here.
Ruiz won't go, he is one of our better players, we sell him after selling Dembele & Dempsey lastyear will seriously lack ambition, we need to strengthen the squad players like Ruiz , Berbatov & Dejagah should be in our side next year if we are to move forward
Quote from: sipwell on April 24, 2013, 08:02:25 AM
I never heard of this website before. Dutch press make absolutely no mention of it. Twente did sign Ebecelio from Arsenal.
Thanks Sipwell.
Not that bothered. He has had 2 years to adjust and is still adjusting. Inconsistent, doesn't score etc etc. It's all been said.
Quote from: jarv on April 24, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Not that bothered. He has had 2 years to adjust and is still adjusting. Inconsistent, doesn't score etc etc. It's all been said.
And I shall continue to say it again and again and change my argument when I forget what day it is. So what and whom were we talking about?
The Dutch press have confirm that this rumour is not true. Ruiz have say: "I'm happy by Fulham and want to stay at the club".
We need squad players like Ruiz and hope that he still play for us nex season.
Quote from: Berserker on April 24, 2013, 08:36:59 AM
I don't want him to leave, i think he is hugely talented. Any way i'll miss his hair
for a small price i will break into his house one night and cut it off for you so you can make it into extensions :)
The biggest problem we currently have with Ruiz is the manager makes him an automatic starter and his performances barely make him a bit part player. His contribution V Arsenal was woeful. He certainly put in effort and I do not fault him for maintaining discipline but in possession he was just a waste of space, again. For a man with talent he fails to produce it regularly.
Kaka a less able player made his prescence felt with a number of determined runs up the field, Ruiz messes about on the ball, he always has to turn three times before deciding what to do, he is often knocked off the ball far too easilly.
He is not up to the standard the says he should be an automatic starter. If Jol dropped him for a while, maybe he would be encouraged to do a bit better.
I will be sorry to see him stay unless he massively improves. I am sure if Jol was replaced ( I am not saying he will be just if he was) Ruiz would rarely play again.
Quote from: nose on April 24, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
The biggest problem we currently have with Ruiz is the manager makes him an automatic starter and his performances barely make him a bit part player. His contribution V Arsenal was woeful. He certainly put in effort and I do not fault him for maintaining discipline but in possession he was just a waste of space, again. For a man with talent he fails to produce it regularly.
Kaka a less able player made his prescence felt with a number of determined runs up the field, Ruiz messes about on the ball, he always has to turn three times before deciding what to do, he is often knocked off the ball far too easilly.
He is not up to the standard the says he should be an automatic starter. If Jol dropped him for a while, maybe he would be encouraged to do a bit better.
I will be sorry to see him stay unless he massively improves. I am sure if Jol was replaced ( I am not saying he will be just if he was) Ruiz would rarely play again.
so who prey tell would you play instead? and why do we look so crap we he doesnt play?
I really thought Bryan was going to have a massive season this year but despite flashes of real quality, it hasn't been anything special. I think the main problem is he just doesn't fit into our system... he's not pacy/powerful enough to play on the wing and be an inside forward (like he was in Holland, I believe?) in the EPL and I think having him tucked in behind Berba deprives us of too much pace through the middle. I think he could work better behind a quick, powerful forward but Berba is around for another season still. I appreciate he's improved this season and has bulked up and improved defensively but I just don't see him really being integral unless perhaps we change system or personnel
Right how much difference does Ruiz make?
Taking just lge games into account he has appeared in 25 games.
Won 7 drew 9 Lost 9 F-37 A-38 Pts 30 An average of 1.2 pts per game
Without him in the other 9 games
Won 3 drew 1 Lost 5 F-7 A-14 Pts 10 An average of 1.11 pts per game.
Over a full season we could have on average got 46pts with him playing
Without him we may have got 42 pts. Not a large difference.
Its clear we have averaged almost double the number of goals when he plays, no real difference in goals against.
We have won slightly more games(% wise) when he has not played but have lost when not.
the last 17 games he has taken part in, he has scored 1 and had 1 assist.
In the first 8 he scored 2 and assisted 5
3 of the 5 we lost when he was not playing were Liverpool (4-0), Spurs (3-0) and WHU (3-0)
Just thought I would throw that in to be ripped apart.
Quote from: MJG on April 24, 2013, 01:44:03 PM
Right how much difference does Ruiz make?
Taking just lge games into account he has appeared in 25 games.
Won 7 drew 9 Lost 9 F-37 A-38 Pts 30 An average of 1.2 pts per game
Without him in the other 9 games
Won 3 drew 1 Lost 5 F-7 A-14 Pts 10 An average of 1.11 pts per game.
Over a full season we could have on average got 46pts with him playing
Without him we may have got 42 pts. Not a large difference.
Its clear we have averaged almost double the number of goals when he plays, no real difference in goals against.
We have won slightly more games(% wise) when he has not played but have lost when not.
the last 17 games he has taken part in, he has scored 1 and had 1 assist.
In the first 8 he scored 2 and assisted 5
3 of the 5 we lost when he was not playing were Liverpool (4-0), Spurs (3-0) and WHU (3-0)
Just thought I would throw that in to be ripped apart.
I like numbers, merci buckets
I have been watching Ruiz since his Twente days, and its fair to say I would never have expected to see him produce such underwhelming performances in the BPL, this was a guy who was classed on par with Luis Suarez, he obviously hasn't achieved his potential at Fulham; I think a move would satisfy both parties. I think Jol's mistakes lie within the fact that with a player like Ruiz, you have to build the team around him, players that complement his style of play, for example if he is playing as a playmaker, there should be runs off the ball instead we are static hence limiting his effectiveness. Secondly I feel that Jol gives him too much defensive responsibilities with the other 2 central midfielders not being able to keep the ball, forcing Ruiz to expend too much of his energies in his own half of the pitch rather than being able to cause harm to the opposition team in more advanced areas of the pitch. Finally Jol has not signed a player who would provide sufficient competition to make Ruiz fight for his place, therefore we see somewhat complacent perfomances with Ruiz as he knows himself that he cant be dropped. Its pretty obvious Ruiz will not cut it at Fulham. How I wish I was wrong...
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on April 24, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
I have been watching Ruiz since his Twente days, and its fair to say I would never have expected to see him produce such underwhelming performances in the BPL, this was a guy who was classed on par with Luis Suarez, he obviously hasn't achieved his potential at Fulham; I think a move would satisfy both parties. I think Jol's mistakes lie within the fact that with a player like Ruiz, you have to build the team around him, players that complement his style of play, for example if he is playing as a playmaker, there should be runs off the ball instead we are static hence limiting his effectiveness. Secondly I feel that Jol gives him too much defensive responsibilities with the other 2 central midfielders not being able to keep the ball, forcing Ruiz to expend too much of his energies in his own half of the pitch rather than being able to cause harm to the opposition team in more advanced areas of the pitch. Finally Jol has not signed a player who would provide sufficient competition to make Ruiz fight for his place, therefore we see somewhat complacent perfomances with Ruiz as he knows himself that he cant be dropped. Its pretty obvious Ruiz will not cut it at Fulham. How I wish I was wrong...
pretty obvious in your opinnion you mean. its pretty obvious in my opinion that he is cutting it at fulham. by far our most creative player. i know who i want the ball at thier feet when we are pinned back and its not the likes of sidwell or the bubble.
I just can't see Ruiz being sold, and I think the "news" is a case of a sports reporting entity putting a bunch of tidbits and opinion together to build an attention getting, but inaccurate story. After all, Ruiz is Jol's big money signing in his tenure with us. Selling him back to the team we bought him from would be admitting a huge failure in judgement. Jol doesn't seem likely to allow that to happen.
From what I've seen, Bryan has shown flashes of great play this year, but was far more consistent last year because the players around him fit the system better. I'm not sure where I read the opinion, but someone put out there that signing Berbatov was a way of plastering over the rough transition that we were going to have with player turn over. I'm not certain that it's true, of course, but it makes some sense. And the team learning to play with a Berba has been a real struggle to my eye. He plays at a different rhythym than the rest of the team and they've rarely been entirely on the same page as him.
I wonder if we won't still be in this transitional phase of our club roster well into next season if not through the entirety of it.
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on April 24, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
I have been watching Ruiz since his Twente days, and its fair to say I would never have expected to see him produce such underwhelming performances in the BPL, this was a guy who was classed on par with Luis Suarez, he obviously hasn't achieved his potential at Fulham; I think a move would satisfy both parties. I think Jol's mistakes lie within the fact that with a player like Ruiz, you have to build the team around him, players that complement his style of play, for example if he is playing as a playmaker, there should be runs off the ball instead we are static hence limiting his effectiveness. Secondly I feel that Jol gives him too much defensive responsibilities with the other 2 central midfielders not being able to keep the ball, forcing Ruiz to expend too much of his energies in his own half of the pitch rather than being able to cause harm to the opposition team in more advanced areas of the pitch. Finally Jol has not signed a player who would provide sufficient competition to make Ruiz fight for his place, therefore we see somewhat complacent perfomances with Ruiz as he knows himself that he cant be dropped. Its pretty obvious Ruiz will not cut it at Fulham. How I wish I was wrong...
What was wrong, clearly, was that he was classed on a par with Suarez.
I'm also bemused by the fact that, having both begun and concluded so dismissively of Ruiz, the rest of your post could hardly make a stronger case for keeping him and getting the best out of him.
I like Ruiz. He's steadily got better this season to the point where I think his last two performances have more than justified his inclusion in the team; he's produced some excellent pieces of skill against two of the top teams. In my opinion, there is cause to believe that he can replicate such good form on a more frequent basis next season.
If we need to shift players out in order to finance new acquisitions (which I find somewhat dubious, considering the even greater 'megabucks' windfall that clubs will reportedly receive from the new Sky deal) there are a number of other players I'd let go before contemplating Ruiz.
Quote from: fulhamben on April 24, 2013, 02:12:49 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on April 24, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
I have been watching Ruiz since his Twente days, and its fair to say I would never have expected to see him produce such underwhelming performances in the BPL, this was a guy who was classed on par with Luis Suarez, he obviously hasn't achieved his potential at Fulham; I think a move would satisfy both parties. I think Jol's mistakes lie within the fact that with a player like Ruiz, you have to build the team around him, players that complement his style of play, for example if he is playing as a playmaker, there should be runs off the ball instead we are static hence limiting his effectiveness. Secondly I feel that Jol gives him too much defensive responsibilities with the other 2 central midfielders not being able to keep the ball, forcing Ruiz to expend too much of his energies in his own half of the pitch rather than being able to cause harm to the opposition team in more advanced areas of the pitch. Finally Jol has not signed a player who would provide sufficient competition to make Ruiz fight for his place, therefore we see somewhat complacent perfomances with Ruiz as he knows himself that he cant be dropped. Its pretty obvious Ruiz will not cut it at Fulham. How I wish I was wrong...
pretty obvious in your opinnion you mean. its pretty obvious in my opinion that he is cutting it at fulham. by far our most creative player. i know who i want the ball at thier feet when we are pinned back and its not the likes of sidwell or the bubble.
Don't worry fulhamben - it won't be Sidwell - he's banned!
Just checked his contract situation. We signed him on a 4 year contract so we have got him for another year. We will then sell him with a year to go or extend his contract.
Firstly Ruiz hasn't been a flop, he hasn't lived up to his potential but that doesn't make him a flop. He makes our team better, without him we have only Berbatov to provide creativity and he's not as good as Ruiz.
He's improved his all round game this year; he tracks back fairly well and is willing to put himself about a bit, he's cut down on the showboating a bit as well.
Unfortunately he's become less attacking as time goes by. Less of a threat.
I can't help but feel that since Murphy departed he feels he has to take on the role Murphy played because we do miss that creativity in central midfield. This would explain why he plays so deep. I think Jol is aware of this and that's why he made efforts to sign Huddlestone. Signing Huddlestone will allow him to play further up the pitch.
I also feel we don't have the right players to make use of his talents. He is very creative and we don't have the off the ball movement to make full use of that creativity. If we could sign some players who make forward runs more often we will score a lot more goals and people will come to see Ruiz is in fact a genius.
If Ruiz goes it will be a huge statement from Jol. I'd have some sympathy with Ruiz as he won't be the only player undone by the Berbatov factor.
Do you think anybody would notice if I kidnapped him and kept in my allotment shed
Quote from: Berserker on April 24, 2013, 10:38:49 PM
Do you think anybody would notice if I kidnapped him and kept in my allotment shed
Your Local Government Allotment Officer would have every right to confiscate him as a non productive item.
ahem
There is no way Jol will sell Ruiz no way what so ever
I like Ruiz and I hope he stays. So says one lone voice in the wilderness.
Quote from: BarryP on April 25, 2013, 12:46:40 AM
I like Ruiz and I hope he stays. So says one lone voice in the wilderness.
I stand with you
What's the point in selling him? He regularly makes the starting 11 and we could not recover all the money we spent on him...Nonsense.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on April 24, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Quote from: Berserker on April 24, 2013, 10:38:49 PM
Do you think anybody would notice if I kidnapped him and kept in my allotment shed
Your Local Government Allotment Officer would have every right to confiscate him as a non productive item.
ahem
They're going to be privatised so i expect there won't be a local anything.
This has to be one of the best discussion threads I've read on this board in a long time. I wish Bryan could find ways to score more. The team just doesn't score enough goals to take the pressure off and affect the lines of play. I think Jol has failed to put the right type of players near him. For all of his great skills with the ball, Berbatov without the ball is nowhere near as good of a player. Karagounis hustles hard, but the car is still stuck in a lower gear. Ruiz needs speed around him, and it's missing. 'Course, Dempsey wasn't a speedster, but he made himself a passing target nonetheless. I'd rather see Bryan in the middle, spraying balls to speedy wingers, to Berb in front of him, to Ashkan the whirling dervish, to Riether cheating up, to the door pounding big man up top we don't yet have. The season's almost over; it's time to put the kids in the game to see what's what.
Ruiz has improved - but not enough. He gets dispossessed too easily and does not know when to release the ball. So he can be a liability. We will not get £10 million back; but offers may be worth considering as he is taking up a place where another player may perform better.
:clap_hands:
Quote from: Forever Fulham on April 25, 2013, 08:26:36 AM
This has to be one of the best discussion threads I've read on this board in a long time. I wish Bryan could find ways to score more. The team just doesn't score enough goals to take the pressure off and affect the lines of play. I think Jol has failed to put the right type of players near him. For all of his great skills with the ball, Berbatov without the ball is nowhere near as good of a player. Karagounis hustles hard, but the car is still stuck in a lower gear. Ruiz needs speed around him, and it's missing. 'Course, Dempsey wasn't a speedster, but he made himself a passing target nonetheless. I'd rather see Bryan in the middle, spraying balls to speedy wingers, to Berb in front of him, to Ashkan the whirling dervish, to Riether cheating up, to the door pounding big man up top we don't yet have. The season's almost over; it's time to put the kids in the game to see what's what.
Quote from: fulhamben on April 24, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Berserker on April 24, 2013, 08:36:59 AM
I don't want him to leave, i think he is hugely talented. Any way i'll miss his hair
for a small price i will break into his house one night and cut it off for you so you can make it into extensions :)
I have just seen that my status on this board has changed to being a "first teamer", so just wait until you see my flowing blond locks ploughing down the wings!!!
Our attacking play this season has been based on the Ruiz/Berbatov partnership and it hasn't quit produced the expected results because it looks as though Ruiz has not really played up to his best abiliity. Take Ruiz out of the team though and our attack has not looked at all good, we have no one in attack to take on the role of playmaker.
If Ruiz is to leave we will have great difficulty in replacing him, it is not easy to replace quality, we have yet to find players to fit into the gaps left by Dempsey and Dembele.
Now if selling Ruiz meant that we could sign Emanuelson then there may be sense in the matter but that is just a dream.
Just out of interest does anyone know how many times bryan ruiz has hit the Post for fulham. I can think of 3 or 4 off the top of head. I think he has been unlucky with the amount of goals he has scored. Hopefully a change of luck next season for him if he stays. 049:gif
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on April 25, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
Just out of interest does anyone know how many times bryan ruiz has hit the Post for fulham. I can think of 3 or 4 off the top of head. I think he has been unlucky with the amount of goals he has scored. Hopefully a change of luck next season for him if he stays. 049:gif
A number cleared off the line as well, Wigan, Man utd
Keep this post for this time next year. I think we are in for a rerun of Dembele. How loved was he until his 3rd year when he moved into midfield B
2013-2014 Ruiz continues to improve . And has scored 10+ goals .
Jol has kept him in the hole not put him out in the wing or pull him into CM ( ie Sidwell has not got sent off)
One year left on his contract.
Not signed a new one yet.
"Fulham should break the bank to keep him or they have no ambition"
His agent has made sure that a host of top clubs are linked with him .
This rumour is absolutely untrue. I'm a Dutch football writer and i've never ever heard of this, as from the source in the opening post. The report is also full of spell/grammar mistakes.
Besides: FC Twente could never pay Ruiz salary when he returns.
Quote from: FFC_17 on April 25, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
This rumour is absolutely untrue. I'm a Dutch football writer and i've never ever heard of this, as from the source in the opening post. The report is also full of spell/grammar mistakes.
Besides: FC Twente could never pay Ruiz salary when he returns.
Thanks, it did seem a less than credible source. Your salary comment puts the end of my thinking he will go there. You are right, he is on undoubtedly bigger wages here and they would be unable to accomodate his current salary.
Quote from: FFC_17 on April 25, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
This rumour is absolutely untrue. I'm a Dutch football writer and i've never ever heard of this, as from the source in the opening post. The report is also full of spell/grammar mistakes.
Besides: FC Twente could never pay Ruiz salary when he returns.
Of course, now that we've been discussuing it for ages what's bound to happen is that some hack who writes for the Daily Sunny TeleMirror will google Fulham transfer, see this thread, write an article based on it, upon which Voetbal International will report that the English media has linked Ruiz with the move and a transfer frenzy will emerge out of the wishful thinking of one poor little Tukker.
