Worth a 3 mill bid, always gets 15 plus goals a season, has played with Berbatov, and still in most England squads , anyone agree?
not seen this news on his release anywhere. if true and we could afford the fee, i am not sure we could afford the salary
3 million? sign him up.... i think him or Bent would be an ideal partner for Berba or Ruiz
last sunday's people said he had been offered to us for 6 million or him + cash for kacka in some deal
Interesting that we are 'connected' with Bent and Defoe. I'm not a big fan of either (not that that's important) but, although very different types of player, they are both proven goalscorers in the PL and, I guess, either could do a job for us.
I thought I'd take a little look at the facts (thus ruling myself out of a career as a Skysports 'journalist') and their records are remarkably similar.
Over the past five seasons Defoe has scored 55 goals in 9793 minutes on the pitch (more accurate than 'appearances') which equals a goal every 178 minutes. Bent (65) works out at a goal every 175 minutes. As a comparison: our own 'Prince of Darkness', Mr D Berbatov, has 63 goals at one every 162 minutes (to be fair four of his past five seasons were with Manchester United, which might have helped).
Both have similar production, are of similar age and have 'in' and 'out' seasons formwise. They both seem overpriced to me (well they are English) but are valued similarly. Bent would seem to offer a bit more than Defoe besides goals, but I'm not sure that he does really.
I'd prefer Defoe because he is quicker, but I suppose it will come down to what deals can be struck - if it comes to anything at all.
I'd prefer to see the MF sorted first, then we might be able to go with what we have already.
Both are likely to have massive wage demands and therefore we will not sign them - imho
But you have to have someone willing to pay those big wages and you have to want to go there. The Geordies are being careful with wages and sell on value, both Scouse teams are probably looking for youth so that doesn't leave many if any. We're in London, friendly fans, no big expectations so we're as desirable as anyone.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on June 14, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Both are likely to have massive wage demands and therefore we will not sign them - imho
Yes, one of the best things about the way this club seems to be run is a refusal to pay silly wages. I've read of Bent's rumoured £70k per week. I think, I hope, if anyone wants that sort of dough they won't be coming here and, conversely, anyone who does come will be on reasonable money.
Defoe rather than Bent. Would have either but not at silly fee or wages.
Only sign if we keep Kaca. Rather have Kaca than Defoe anyday.
Would love to see Defoe playing for us. Guaranteed goals.
Doubt it'd happen. He was frozen out by Jol at Spurs so there relationship I bet isn't great.
Quote from: TWFL on June 14, 2013, 04:32:14 PM
Doubt it'd happen. He was frozen out by Jol at Spurs so there relationship I bet isn't great.
Correct, he can't stand Martin Jol. Absolutely slated him in the media when he was sacked from Spurs.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 14, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Would love to see Defoe playing for us. Guaranteed goals.
... until Christmas.
Spurs look like they are having a bit of a clear out...
William Gallas, David Bentley and John Bostock have not had their contracts renewed.
Jermain Defoe, Emmanuel Adebayor, Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone, Iago Falque, Andros Townsend, Beniot Assou-Ekotto, Bongani Khumalo, Heurelho Gomes and Brad Friedel will go "if the price is right".
Quote from: Burt on June 14, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
Spurs look like they are having a bit of a clear out...
William Gallas, David Bentley and John Bostock have not had their contracts renewed.
Jermain Defoe, Emmanuel Adebayor, Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone, Iago Falque, Andros Townsend, Beniot Assou-Ekotto, Bongani Khumalo, Heurelho Gomes and Brad Friedel will go "if the price is right".
I think we would be surprised how many of them actually want to leave rather than being 'cleared out'
Would seem there are a fair few unhappy faces over in north London
Defoe would be great. Unlike Berbatov he just loves to shoot - would be great for us.
Unfortunately Spurs steal our players and ask a forune for theirs. They probably want 15 million and will take Kaca for 1 million
defoe might be a good buy. he scores goals and could be a great foyle for berba
Defoe would be such a good signing, can't see it happening though
Defoe is what's needed. He would play every week and stay in London so it might well happen.
I don't think Defoe will join us, but I don't think some of the obstacles are as bad as is being made out.
He's on the wrong side of thirty and whilst he's still very good he's not a superstar - I'd be surprised to see any team in the top six show any serious interest, which will hurt Spurs' asking price.
Late-career jollies to the MLS or the A-League aside, very few English players choose to go abroad. If he still wants to play top quality football then he's looking at a midfield Premier League team like ourselves.
Assuming the main interest comes from teams like Fulham then we should be able to compete with any other wage offer. Obviously it won't be what he was on at Spurs, but if there's no substantially better offer on the table then he doesn't have much choice. Besides, wealthy players are surprisingly willing to drop down the pay scale for game time - look at Berbatov.
And if Defoe wants to stake his claim for a place in the England squad let alone team for the World Cup in Rio then playing every week and scoring regularly as he would with a team like Fulham would do his chances a lot of good if Spurs, as expected, bring in some new forwards.
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on June 17, 2013, 04:59:13 PM
I don't think Defoe will join us, but I don't think some of the obstacles are as bad as is being made out.
He's on the wrong side of thirty and whilst he's still very good he's not a superstar - I'd be surprised to see any team in the top six show any serious interest, which will hurt Spurs' asking price.
Late-career jollies to the MLS or the A-League aside, very few English players choose to go abroad. If he still wants to play top quality football then he's looking at a midfield Premier League team like ourselves.
Assuming the main interest comes from teams like Fulham then we should be able to compete with any other wage offer. Obviously it won't be what he was on at Spurs, but if there's no substantially better offer on the table then he doesn't have much choice. Besides, wealthy players are surprisingly willing to drop down the pay scale for game time - look at Berbatov.
You are getting teams like Stoke and West ham who throw big money at average players
i am led to believe he has recently had a house built and would like to stay there..... however if someone is willing to offer silly money im sure he would up sticks for a few years!
im not so sure he is 100% happy at Tottenham
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on June 17, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
And if Defoe wants to stake his claim for a place in the England squad let alone team for the World Cup in Rio then playing every week and scoring regularly as he would with a team like Fulham would do his chances a lot of good if Spurs, as expected, bring in some new forwards.
if defoe could manage to be available for selction every week then he wouldnt be leaving spurs
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 14, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Would love to see Defoe playing for us. Guaranteed goals.
Based on many of our performances last season no one is guaranteed goals, we need to generate more attacking play from defence and midfield before any striker is going to do well for us.
Here's a stat for yee
Jermain Defoe only scored one goal in 1079 minutes of Premier League football from Boxing Day all the way through to the end of the season. This includes eight full appearances (90 minutes +).
