Anyone have any low-down on what's happening with Kasami? I thought he was meant to be moved out in the last transfer window but fell foul of a technicality, then was loaned to Luzern with a view to a permanent move this Summer. He played a few nights ago in Costa Rica and seems to have done well. Still only 21, I'd love to see him stay and make a mark with us.
He was brilliant the other night. Looked like the kind of attacking midfielder we actually need.
Sunday night, Kasami looked like the player we was missing last season. He looked class!! Still can't believe he's only 21!!
Perhaps his loan spell was to prepare him for FFC first team??
Quote from: Luffy86 on July 16, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Perhaps his loan spell was to prepare him for FFC first team??
That makes sense, similar to the Kaca situation. Add a bit of steel and experience.
I really really like him as well. Him and Frei too. They both have a great future, I think. I hope they make it to first team this season. Or we might loose them... :023:
I reckon we'll see a lot of Kasami next season. He's got really quick feet for someone his size.
i like kasami, he's skillful + good at passing and has a great shot on him, hope he plays more.
Quote from: KP_FFC on July 16, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
i like kasami, he's skillful + good at passing and has a great shot on him, hope he plays more.
:plus one:
also quick, good footballing brain and powerful
his strength his a massive plus as opposed to ruiz's ......lack of strength
Quote from: Zu-Meister on July 16, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
his strength his a massive plus as opposed to ruiz's ......lack of strength
Although Ruiz sometimes looks like a new born giraffe he doesn't lose the ball anywhere near as often as you you might expect.
But Kasami was really impressive, albeit for half of the first friendly of a new season.
Can Jol find a way to play Berbatov, Ruiz and Kasami in the same team?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 16, 2013, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on July 16, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
his strength his a massive plus as opposed to ruiz's ......lack of strength
Although Ruiz sometimes looks like a new born giraffe he doesn't lose the ball anywhere near as often as you you might expect.
But Kasami was really impressive, albeit for half of the first friendly of a new season.
Can Jol find a way to play Berbatov, Ruiz and Kasami in the same team?
ruiz loses the ball in such dangerous positions. sometimes he can produce a bit of skill to get away, but fairly often he gets robbed and the opposition get a counter attack chance.
cant see all 3 in the same team, neither ruiz or kasami are wingers. you can add david to the list of players who can play that position. i think hes a real gem.
Quote from: Zu-Meister on July 16, 2013, 12:39:22 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 16, 2013, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on July 16, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
his strength his a massive plus as opposed to ruiz's ......lack of strength
Although Ruiz sometimes looks like a new born giraffe he doesn't lose the ball anywhere near as often as you you might expect.
But Kasami was really impressive, albeit for half of the first friendly of a new season.
Can Jol find a way to play Berbatov, Ruiz and Kasami in the same team?
ruiz loses the ball in such dangerous positions. sometimes he can produce a bit of skill to get away, but fairly often he gets robbed and the opposition get a counter attack chance.
cant see all 3 in the same team, neither ruiz or kasami are wingers. you can add david to the list of players who can play that position. i think hes a real gem.
Yes, Ruiz needs to learn not to linger on the ball in front of our back four, and probably not to be so far back that he finds himself in those situations. I'm hoping that Boateng will fill that hole releasing Ruiz and Berbatov for attacking duties.
what jol said which i agree entirely is that we need someone in midfield to help out ruiz with the creativity of the team. ruiz recognizes theres no one deep lying play making, so he drops deep and loses it, another reason why we dont see him score as many as he should be. someone like mccarthy whom we have bid for would be perfect to partner boateng in the middle.
About a month ago on Twitter he got involved in a conversation with a fan which ended with him insisting that he's a central midfielder. Could he not fill one of those gaps?
A midfield of Dejagah, Kasami, Huddlestone and Kacaniklic. Yeah.
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on July 16, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
About a month ago on Twitter he got involved in a conversation with a fan which ended with him insisting that he's a central midfielder. Could he not fill one of those gaps?
A midfield of Dejagah, Kasami, Huddlestone and Kacaniklic. Yeah.
Boateng is looking up for it and would probably have something to say about that.
huddlestone is at sunderland, just heard on the radio, the guy said pretty much done deal......although i wonder why its not been anounced yet.
if i remember correct we sold him but when the club we were selling him to internet went out so the deal could not be done so they done the loan deal instead
Quote from: nickmuir on July 16, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
if i remember correct we sold him but when the club we were selling him to internet went out so the deal could not be done so they done the loan deal instead
That was for the loan deal. It went through special circumstances and was passed. I don't believe we intended to sell him.
He was never going to be sold, - just loaned out. The deal fell through because of the internet broke down. Jol has stated several times that he is still a part of his plans, and that he just needed more experience. Kasami is/eill be a great player, and i have full faith in him breaking into the first team this season. If we sign Huddlestone (who aren't going to Sunderland, lazy journalists on the radio), a midfield of boateng, huddlestone kasami with berbatov, ruiz and someone in front of those (sort of 4-3-3), that would be a MASSIVE improvement on last season. If we won't bring Huddlestone to fulham (would be a shame if we didn't), i also have full faith in Jol to bring in some other talent.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on July 16, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
Anyone have any low-down on what's happening with Kasami? I thought he was meant to be moved out in the last transfer window but fell foul of a technicality, then was loaned to Luzern with a view to a permanent move this Summer. He played a few nights ago in Costa Rica and seems to have done well. Still only 21, I'd love to see him stay and make a mark with us.
I don't think there was any plan for the loan to Luzern to lead to a permanent move, just a way for him for him to get some playing time after the loan move to Pescara collapsed due to the bizarre Internet connection issue others have mentioned. He's only just turned 21 a month ago, and Jol has said glowing things about his potential in the past and nothing to suggest that he wants to sell him.
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766651_Fulham.jpg)
Thoughts? Prefer Huddlestone to Sidwell and a new left back, probably, as you need that deep lying playmaker and kasami can be the shuttler/box-to-box player, but with what we have now...
I'm thinking Sascha to overlap Ruiz routinely in this system.
dejagah?
Quote from: hesedmedia on July 16, 2013, 04:36:26 PM
Thoughts? Prefer Huddlestone to Sidwell and a new left back, probably, as you need that deep lying playmaker and kasami can be the shuttler/box-to-box player, but with what we have now...
I'm thinking Sascha to overlap Ruiz routinely in this system.
You know, I would be quite happy to start the season with something like that. I'd like to incorporate Dejagah and obviously we should still look to invest in certain positions (LB, CM etc.) but that line-up looks far superior to what we ended up cobbling together last season.
Quote from: Zu-Meister on July 16, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
dejagah?
I know, I was torn over that! It's a question, at least in this system, of whether we need the center midfield crowded or we needed the width depending on the opponent. If we had Huddlestone or a similar deep-lying playmaker type, we could play boateng/sidwell and the DLP in the middle, drop kasami, have Ruiz in the number 10 role, with dejagah and kaca as wingers for width or at home.
Otherwise, I think he could rotate with kaca, and if we had a decent LB going forward, could flip the whole system left to right so ruiz is sort of tucked inside on the left, dejagah wide right.
This would be creamy, methinks:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766676_Fulham.jpg)
this as well:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766678_Fulham.jpg)
But THIS is probably the best solution, at least in my head. you can swop kasami for boateng if you want to:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766681_Fulham.jpg)
Thoughts?
Kasami has turned into a world beater in the space of 1 game, nice
Quote from: elgreenio on July 16, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Kasami has turned into a world beater in the space of 1 game, nice
and he only played 45 minutes in that game too
No one has said he is a world beater. I have always said that he is/is going to be good.
I've always rated Kasami but he has a long way to go before he replaces the likes of Dejagah & Ruiz in our side
Quote from: elgreenio on July 16, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Kasami has turned into a world beater in the space of 1 game, nice
Ah but no one said that. Merely praising a good first half performance. Anyway, most believed that we should have seen more of him last season, so not exactly jumping on the bandwagon.
Quote from: atleTheodor on July 16, 2013, 05:06:49 PM
This would be creamy, methinks:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766676_Fulham.jpg)
this as well:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766678_Fulham.jpg)
But THIS is probably the best solution, at least in my head. you can swop kasami for boateng if you want to:
(http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/07/766681_Fulham.jpg)
Thoughts?
Huddlestone is not a defensive midfielder, he is a creator. Boateng will be our starting defensive midfielder, and the creator next to him could be Kasami, Hudd or someone else.
kasami could not play in a two i midfield, he is a number 10 role player. i do think he will have a more prominent role this season but off the bench
Quote from: westcliff white on July 16, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
kasami could not play in a two i midfield, he is a number 10 role player. i do think he will have a more prominent role this season but off the bench
So was Dembele.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 16, 2013, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 16, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
kasami could not play in a two i midfield, he is a number 10 role player. i do think he will have a more prominent role this season but off the bench
So was Dembele.
Now if Jol can turn Kasami into another Dembele I would be very happy !
A big leap .Too big for this season certainly.
Hope he can be groomed coming off the bench this season .
Most of us have been crying out for a new attacking centre midfielder for a long time. If Kassami can come good then surely Karagounis and Kassami could well meet our needs.
Don't even think of suggesting a team that does not include Dejegah, untill his injury last season he was proving to be a match winner.
I think Jol paid some 3 million pounds for Kassami, he must have seen something in him, we could be in for a nice surprise this season.
I am sorry my fellow board members but you make me bite my lip, because Kasami has one good game all of a sudden a lot of you have gone from slagging him off into making him the new Messi.
Personally I have always seen something in him and have tried to promote his ability but for Gods sake so many of you were slagging him off last year but now you want to lace his boots
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 16, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
Personally I have always seen something in him and have tried to promote his ability but for Gods sake so many of you were slagging him off last year but now you want to lace his boots
Not me, I've loved every minute he's on. I never understood why Jol didn't give him more chances last season, especially after seeing him play against WBA - he played for 10 minutes and made an impact immediately.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 16, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
I am sorry my fellow board members but you make me bite my lip, because Kasami has one good game all of a sudden a lot of you have gone from slagging him off into making him the new Messi.
Personally I have always seen something in him and have tried to promote his ability but for Gods sake so many of you were slagging him off last year but now you want to lace his boots
Nor me. I thought he had a good game against Chelsea away in the League Cup (apart from the penalty). I'm hopeful that he can make a growing contribution.
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on July 16, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
About a month ago on Twitter he got involved in a conversation with a fan which ended with him insisting that he's a central midfielder. Could he not fill one of those gaps?
A midfield of Dejagah, Kasami, Huddlestone and Kacaniklic. Yeah.
So who of those 4 will be our defensive MF, they are all wingers or attacking MF
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 16, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
I am sorry my fellow board members but you make me bite my lip, because Kasami has one good game all of a sudden a lot of you have gone from slagging him off into making him the new Messi.
Personally I have always seen something in him and have tried to promote his ability but for Gods sake so many of you were slagging him off last year but now you want to lace his boots
The Board in general has been more mystified about why we have not seen more of him.
The general conclusion is that there has been something in training or behind the scenes that Jol has seen that means he has not had confidence in him .
We hope he has matured . Because he has shown promise on the field .
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on July 16, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
About a month ago on Twitter he got involved in a conversation with a fan which ended with him insisting that he's a central midfielder. Could he not fill one of those gaps?
A midfield of Dejagah, Kasami, Huddlestone and Kacaniklic. Yeah.
Why Huddlestone?
Is he what we need? Is he the best we can get?
And really, if we are going to have Kasami in central midfield we would surely need Boateng, our best defensive midfielder, alongside him.
What is it with this board's obsession with Huddleston? I'd much rather talk about Kasami being an important part of the first team after a good 45mins because he's actually a Fulham player. There's never been a strong reason to suggest (average prem CM) Huddleston joining us yet he makes everyone's starting XI.
Quote from: elgreenio on July 16, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Kasami has turned into a world beater in the space of 1 game, nice
:plus one:
Will play a part though next season I think.
Watch him have a stinker tomorrow though and the hatred flood in!
As we have a fair few classic #10's coming through I wouldn't be surprised if Jol is looking for one or two of them to adapt to a deeper role, especially with Ruiz hopefully here for a long time to come. My guess would that David and Kasami are the best candidates for that kind of change.
I thought he had something from the start,although pretty raw then.
Feel happy and excited about seeing him in the 1st team.
I tipped him last year to hit the heights and was wrong and seemingly something wasn't quite right. I've done the same again this year (and he tweeted me back) so hopefully I don't have egg on my face foir a second season. Not the messiah, just a decent prospect that I hope get's some game time.
