http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2013/august/07/taarabt-arrives-on-loan (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2013/august/07/taarabt-arrives-on-loan)
According to that there is no option at the end which is a bit deflating.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
According to that there is no option at the end which is a bit deflating.
Should be 'According to that, there is NO MENTION of an option at the end...'. It skips the detail, doesn't mean there isn't one.
Looking at previous loans, Enoh/Manolev/Riether, all mention the option to buy. That's not a good sign really...
The QPR website is not reporting one either.
Even if there is no option we can still buy him if we want to and he wants to stay.
I imagine a lot will depend on whether QPR come back up.
Again I have to say he would cost too much for us to buy and we have him for a season. Frankly he is very hit or miss and loan allows us to spend on other players. Well if we ever spent any money it would. So I hope he shines but couldn't care less if we can sign him for 10 million plus next season or not.
This is a good bit of business; he has the ability to change a game with a spark of brilliance, but the problem is that he doesn't consistently show it. With a loan deal, we get the benefit of him playing for Fulham for an entire season without the risk of laying out millions of pounds.
@jacobmurtagh: Taarabt: "This was a difficult decision, but I feel I need to be playing at the top. I hope to return to Loftus Road one day" #Fulham #QPR
Annoyed at this. So we have to go through all the trouble of finding a top midfielder next season, rather than sign one permanently now and give him plenty of time to settle in. Most likely he won't sign permanently.
"one day" to me that indicates he doesnt expect to go back for a while.
Quote from: alexbishop on August 07, 2013, 09:54:53 AM
@jacobmurtagh: Taarabt: "This was a difficult decision, but I feel I need to be playing at the top. I hope to return to Loftus Road one day" #Fulham #QPR
Hasn't he got to say this?
Even if he hopes he can carve out a successful career with us and never go back there again, he can't afford to burn his bridges because WE may not sign him.
I read on the BBC that QPR has said the "loan deal has suited everyone". Now I dont see how this can be true.
If its a loan without an option, it suits QPR,
If its a loan with an option, it suits us.
I dont see how both parties could be happy with the situation
Low risk deal for a volatile player. Not bothered about there being no option to sign at the end of the season.
Can someone who does the twitter malarkey tweet the club and directly ask them if theres an option.
Bad form for the club not to have an official interview ready to put up with the announcement
It will be a real sickener if he has a great season then returns and continues that form.
Surely we must have first option to buy him at the end of the season? Very frustrating if it is just a loan. I was hoping for more than a temporary fix.
Has he had much pre season at all, ill be more annoyed if he hasn't played much.
Quote from: Danitar on August 07, 2013, 10:21:18 AM
Has he had much pre season at all, ill be more annoyed if he hasn't played much.
Apparently he's only trained once all preseason...
He's got to get a run out against Parma. Just to give an idea of his match fitness.
Maybe Parma are coming over to sell us Casano!
He has a contract with QPha until 2016 so they are under no pressure to sell him.
Given that he is a loan player; we can play him or not, just as it suits us.
If the academy players are ever going to make a difference to our club we have to have guys like this who can be eased out to make way for them.
So why pay mega money for a player with history who we might never need?
:031: why oh why have we signed this guy if he's had one training session, it doesn't make no sense qpr have got a very good out of us.
Quote from: EJL on August 07, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: Danitar on August 07, 2013, 10:21:18 AM
Has he had much pre season at all, ill be more annoyed if he hasn't played much.
Apparently he's only trained once all preseason...
Quote from: Roberty on August 07, 2013, 10:49:10 AM
So why pay mega money for a player with history who we might never need?
They probably didnt ask for mega money. I think the reason people are annoyed is because when Taarabt goes back to QPR next summer, we will be left the same problem of trying to get a player in to fill his boots. Need some stability and that unfortunately means getting the cheque-book out.
We have been relying on loans for way to long and our total value of playing assets are probably amongst the lowest in the league.
Look, I say we get all our money and buy cesc fabregas. ;)
Can hear it already when Taarabt fluffs his lines, 'get out of here you useless piece of QPR...' Sorry, that's a bit negative.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 07, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
Low risk deal for a volatile player. Not bothered about there being no option to sign at the end of the season.
What he said.
Loans are the way of the world for clubs like Fulham. When we spend £10 million on a player it usually does not work out.
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
I read on the BBC that QPR has said the "loan deal has suited everyone". Now I dont see how this can be true.
If its a loan without an option, it suits QPR,
If its a loan with an option, it suits us.
I dont see how both parties could be happy with the situation
QPR get him off the wages and we can get a luxury player at our disposal without getting tied down.
At the age of 23 we could potentially sign him next season and still not be any worse off. Lets face it we paid 10 million for Ruiz who was older and has been a relative flop. QPR would realistically take less than that - particularly if they stay down in the championship or better still get relegated.
Doesn't seem like a lose lose to me.
Admittedly the no option to buy is frustrating but its still a year long deal for a potentially top player.
With all the hype about our youngsters and people like David coming through, as a previous poster put, we may not need Taarabt at the end of this season.
If he has a good year with us then thats good for us and he will be MORE likely to join us permanently. If he doesn't, then we've still had a good year of football off him. Who's to say he won't get a serious injury early on in the season? Then this deal will look better
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Lets just concentrate on this season shall we. Next year will take care of itself, Taarabt or no Taarabt.
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
I read on the BBC that QPR has said the "loan deal has suited everyone". Now I dont see how this can be true.
If its a loan without an option, it suits QPR,
If its a loan with an option, it suits us.
I dont see how both parties could be happy with the situation
The one year loan part might be argued to suit everyone: QPR, Fulham and Taarabt. I agree the option/non-option part can only suit one club.
Citing points from @MrFulham on twitter;
- Taarabt told french magazine L'Equipe yesterday that there is an option to buy.
- After the "storm in a teacup" of the options to buy on Reither/Enoh/Maolev the club may well prefer to keep their cards close to their chest and not refer to any option to buy.
- Alternatively, there may be an agreement between QPR and Fulham not to announce this clause as it could be flexible based on player and team performances (promotion etc). But Taarabt is unlikely to want to return and play under Redknapp who had little time for him last season.
I thought that they were all valid points, worth sharing..
At least it gives us plenty of time to find a long term solution to our biggest problem position. If QPR don´t get promoted there is no way he will want to go back. If they do I am not sure if he would want to play for Redknapp. If they don´t go up & he has a good season for us the fee won´t be astronomical but if they do then his fee will be out of our price range.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Citing points from @MrFulham on twitter;
- Taarabt told french magazine L'Equipe yesterday that there is an option to buy.
- After the "storm in a teacup" of the options to buy on Reither/Enoh/Maolev the club may well prefer to keep their cards close to their chest and not refer to any option to buy.
- Alternatively, there may be an agreement between QPR and Fulham not to announce this clause as it could be flexible based on player and team performances (promotion etc). But Taarabt is unlikely to want to return and play under Redknapp who had little time for him last season.
I thought that they were all valid points, worth sharing..
Redknapp thinks Adel is too egotistical and a showboat. Besides Redknapp likes
little British boys..er ...British players
Adel feels that Harry has something against him and treats him disrespectfully. So I guess you can say there isn't any love lost between them.
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2013, 11:47:52 AM
At least it gives us plenty of time to find a long term solution to our biggest problem position. If QPR don´t get promoted there is no way he will want to go back. If they do I am not sure if he would want to play for Redknapp. If they don´t go up & he has a good season for us the fee won´t be astronomical but if they do then his fee will be out of our price range.
One thing I can't agree with, is that we need more time to address this issue. Its been a long time since Moussa left, we have had months upon months to address it. If they need more time, we need different personel who can address this. They have had long enough to pin point targets and acquire them.
Agreed
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on August 07, 2013, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Citing points from @MrFulham on twitter;
- Taarabt told french magazine L'Equipe yesterday that there is an option to buy.
- After the "storm in a teacup" of the options to buy on Reither/Enoh/Maolev the club may well prefer to keep their cards close to their chest and not refer to any option to buy.
- Alternatively, there may be an agreement between QPR and Fulham not to announce this clause as it could be flexible based on player and team performances (promotion etc). But Taarabt is unlikely to want to return and play under Redknapp who had little time for him last season.
I thought that they were all valid points, worth sharing..
Redknapp thinks Adel is too egotistical and a showboat. Besides Redknapp likes little British boys..er ...British players
Adel feels that Harry has something against him and treats him disrespectfully. So I guess you can say there isn't any love lost between them.
Exactly. Regardless of how QPR do this season, I can't see Tarbs wanting to return. And Redknapp has openly stated that he doesn't want players at the club who don't want to be there. After last season, QPR won't risk poorly motivated players at the club.
The way I see it: Tarbs plays well - he's ours; Tarbs plays badly - not our problem.
Also, if there is an option to buy, we 100% won't have made the same mistake as last year by offering a too high purchase price (pre-loan) that we'd never agree to pay at the end.
I'm very very happy about this deal.
Must admit, I'm coming around to the idea. If he's quality makes a difference in keeping us up next season, then I'm happy regardless of my other misgivings. Maybe the issue of the option will affect the levels of tolerance fans will show towards Adel at times.
"I hope the fans understand my decision and I really hope to return to Loftus Road one day. I wish QPR well for the season and hope they achieve promotion back to where I believe the club belongs." 1500.gif
Quote from: Admin on August 07, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
"I hope the fans understand my decision and I really hope to return to Loftus Road one day. I wish QPR well for the season and hope they achieve promotion back to where I believe the club belongs." 1500.gif
As long as he plans on returning to Loftus Road in a Fulham shirt, I don't mind!
I imagine that this is a case of not "burning bridges". I'd be more concerned if he left on loan and was explicitly rude about a club that has looked after him through his best years as a player.
Quote from: Admin on August 07, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
I hope the fans understand my decision and I really hope to return to Loftus Road one day. I wish QPR well for the season and hope they achieve promotion back to where I believe the club belongs. 1500.gif
Are QPR going to be relegated another couple of times then? That way when they get promoted it will be back to where they belong!!!
Who's to say we didn't want an option to buy (assuming there isn't one) and the players agent or QPR insisted that such an option would be triggered after so many games?
If he had played X amount of games, was doing OK but the club decided they don't want to take up the option then he would have to be left on the sidelines whilst being paid and a club such as ours cant afford to do that both financially and playing staff wise. It's not like we can just cut the loan short to suit ourselves if we have an agreement of a one year loan deal.
Many many things go on behind the scenes that we'll never be party to, all we can do us speculate and then moan about the speculation.
I don't like loans personally but this could be an exception as far as I'm concerned.
One things for sure though, without an option to buy being announced coupled with his comments about returning (which I don't believe), we have a new scapegoat when things start to go wrong!!
Most intriguing.
Pros:
This is a seriously talented player.
May well be just what we need.
Most of the better-balanced QPR supporters are gutted at losing him. (I say this as an indication of his value, rather than out of any pleasure at the discomfiture of our rivals).
Young and capable of further improvement.
Has a bit to prove in the PL.
Cons:
Has been bit of a prat. This hardly makes him unique among top footballers and it is a function of our management to sort it out.
May lack fitness. Again, one for our management to sort out.
His type of unconventional talent might not suit all our fans. Well, you can't please 'em all, can you, Dimitar?
The option tends to make us look a bit weak. However, we don't know the full story. And he is something of a risk.
I think we can disregard anything he says about QPR - this is the sort of thing that anyone of ordinary politeness or diplomacy will come out with.
I think we can disregard anything Redknapp says...but then we knew that already.
With a name like, " 'tarrah a bit ", I don't expect him to stay for ever.
BZ must be gnashing his teeth at the injustice of it all :012:
Good bit of business.
Looking forward to seeing him play.
Some fans are stupid. Name me some good playmakers we could sign for a realistic price. Taarabt is a short term option until the right player comes along, why are people moaning we havent spent money on him
From the Evening Standard - Sorry if already posted.
Adel Taarabt revealed today the lure of Premier League football was the key reason behind his decision to join Fulham, writes Giuseppe Muro.
The 24-year-old Morocco international (right) has agreed a season-long loan which could turn into a permanent move from Championship side Queens Park Rangers if he impresses manager Martin Jol.
"This was a difficult decision but at this stage of my career I feel I need to be playing at the top level," said Taarabt, who passed a medical yesterday.
"I hope the fans understand my decision and I really hope to return to Loftus Road one day. I wish QPR well for the season and hope they achieve promotion back to where I believe the club belongs."
Taarabt was sent home from QPR's pre-season training camp in Devon last month after turning up late for a session and since then he has not played for Harry Redknapp's side.
Jol, who signed Taarabt when he was Tottenham manager in 2007, said: "He can do a hell of a job for us because he is a tremendous player on the ball. It is like Dimitar Berbatov — sometimes these fantastic talents will be blamed but I hope to find a way to gel him in together with the boys we've got."
Taarabt is Jol's sixth signing of the summer.
Lets hope he proves to be a better addition than the last player we got from those anal discharges - Lee Cock ( and no i haven't spelt it wrong!) fp.gif
Shirt Number 6? hopefully?
May take Ruiz's old 11?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
AgreedQuote from: CincyFulham1 on August 07, 2013, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Citing points from @MrFulham on twitter;
- Taarabt told french magazine L'Equipe yesterday that there is an option to buy.
- After the "storm in a teacup" of the options to buy on Reither/Enoh/Maolev the club may well prefer to keep their cards close to their chest and not refer to any option to buy.
- Alternatively, there may be an agreement between QPR and Fulham not to announce this clause as it could be flexible based on player and team performances (promotion etc). But Taarabt is unlikely to want to return and play under Redknapp who had little time for him last season.
I thought that they were all valid points, worth sharing..
Redknapp thinks Adel is too egotistical and a showboat. Besides Redknapp likes little British boys..er ...British players
Adel feels that Harry has something against him and treats him disrespectfully. So I guess you can say there isn't any love lost between them.
Exactly. Regardless of how QPR do this season, I can't see Tarbs wanting to return. And Redknapp has openly stated that he doesn't want players at the club who don't want to be there. After last season, QPR won't risk poorly motivated players at the club.
The way I see it: Tarbs plays well - he's ours; Tarbs plays badly - not our problem.
Also, if there is an option to buy, we 100% won't have made the same mistake as last year by offering a too high purchase price (pre-loan) that we'd never agree to pay at the end.
I'm very very happy about this deal.
That's the whole point - without the option to buy clause, if he plays well then there's no guarantee he is ours. Anyone can buy him and if he does well in the prem with us, he WILL be out of our price range. Normally the first option clauses are at a set fee agreed at the time (while his stock is low).
If there is an option this is a good deal, without and option the only way this is good is if he doesn't perform and we want to send him back.
Agreed. Even if he won't want to go back to QPR, if he does well and his stock has risen, without an option, QPR will get the benefit of the increased price when Spurs jumps in.
I wonder is spurs sign him do they have to pay themselves 40%
I posted this in the other thread but thought I should post it here too:
I've just read something interesting with regards to our option, apparently we have loaned with a buy option as Tottenham currently have a sell on fee for him, which EXPIRES THIS SUMMER so this way round, it works out beneficial to both Fulham and QPR.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2013/august/07/adels-first-interview?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=AllSocial&utm_campaign=TB (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2013/august/07/adels-first-interview?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=AllSocial&utm_campaign=TB)
Quote from: Barnettski on August 07, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
I posted this in the other thread but thought I should post it here too:
I've just read something interesting with regards to our option, apparently we have loaned with a buy option as Tottenham currently have a sell on fee for him, which EXPIRES THIS SUMMER so this way round, it works out beneficial to both Fulham and QPR.
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S*** on the spurs.
Quote from: The Old Count on August 07, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Even if there is no option we can still buy him if we want to and he wants to stay.
:plus one:
Look we were all worried about the weakness of the center of our midfield and a talented attacking player was an absolute priority. With the first match only ten days away it looked as if we were going to start the with a problem.
We now have Botang, Sidwell, Caragounis and Taarabt to choose from for the two center mid positions, this looks pretty good and sets us up nicely for the season. Also Jol's transfer budget did not take a knock and there must be money left for a really big signing.
OK Taarabt may leave at the end of the season,lets worry about that when it happens and trust that by then we have scouted for a replacement.
Taarabt is not a centre midfielder
