Showed energy and got stuck in. Looked much better than against sunderland.
Agree, his passing was pretty good as well at times
I agree completley.... the game changed slightly for us when he came on. Not been his biggest fan but that was a good performance alongisde my motm sidwell
He's a much better footballer than Sidwell.
It was so refreshing to have a midfielder who doesn't look like they are running in treacle over the first five yards.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 05, 2013, 05:11:12 PM
I agree completley.... the game changed slightly for us when he came on. Not been his biggest fan but that was a good performance alongisde my motm sidwell
Kasami MOM by a long chalk, he must have covered every blade of grass today
Should have been sent of raver.... But yeah he played really well as well. Only jist behind sidwell for my motm
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 05, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Should have been sent of raver.... But yeah he played really well as well. Only jist behind sidwell for my motm
for what?
Well i thought Senderos was excellent, i actually felt safer in the 2nd half with Hangeland gone.
Quote from: epsomraver on October 05, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 05, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Should have been sent of raver.... But yeah he played really well as well. Only jist behind sidwell for my motm
for what?
Looked like he lashed out at Pieters (?) early on.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 05, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Should have been sent of raver.... But yeah he played really well as well. Only jist behind sidwell for my motm
For what? Brushing pieters hair?
I liked Boateng at Sunderland, he did a job many of you failed to spot, he broke down so many of their attacking movements (yes a few clumsy tackles thrown in but still did the job)
Kasami lashed out early on.... Some refs could have given him a red.
Senderos started off a bit nervy almost giving a penalty away, but looked much better alongside amboreita.... I agree with Alfie that he played well second half
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 05, 2013, 05:29:43 PM
Kasami lashed out early on.... Some refs could have given him a red.
It was a handbags kind of backward slap at Pieters who over dramatized the incident by going down like he had been caught with a good right hook. However, it did look like Kasami's hand made contact with Pieters face and Kasami was a bit lucky not to be carded I think. Having said that I did think Kasami's performance was the best in a Fulham shirt today.
Back on subject, I did think Boateng looked good and didn't really sit a foot wrong.
Boateng had his chance to shine today and was excellent. I hope he is rewarded with a start next week, alongside Parker if he is fit or Kasami moved t the middle if not.
I thought Sidwell was very poor today and gave the ball away on a number of occasions which was disappointing to see. Obviously can't fault the lad's effort but he just doesn't have the quality or vision going forward and is so limited in his passing.
He'a big guy isn't he, rather in the mould of Etuhu
Very happy with Del Boy, Kasami and Senderos
Quote from: alexbishop on October 05, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
I liked Boateng at Sunderland, he did a job many of you failed to spot, he broke down so many of their attacking movements (yes a few clumsy tackles thrown in but still did the job)
I agree, he was superb in the 2 pre season friendlies, I still don't know how he blocked one goal bound rocket againsy Betis. I honestly thought he would be a starter this season, definitely feature as a last 20 minute guy at least. Quality player thats seems to intercept and block opposition passes and shots. When he had possesion plays simple ball quickly no unnecessary dawdling on the ball which is refreshing
The team is bereft of athleticism and strength, which is what Boateng provides. He should see some minutes beside Parker in the midfield going forward.
IMO, that is why Kasami, Boateng, and Amorebieta all seemed to stand out today. They all have pace. If you are going to start Berbatov and Ruiz, you need players who are going to run around behind them to cover up their lack of foot speed (or running in general).
My heart was in my throat when Senderos went for the break up play in the box and nicked the Stoke player. But no call. On the other hand, there was non call on an obvious foul in the box by a Stoke player, so it all evened out. Senderos continues to improve. Players are getting used to one another. I don't understand what's happening with Hangeland. Steady, reliable Brede is letting his team down. I don't get it. I don't know why Bent had to come in so late. Is he that much out of shape? Or was this just a knucklehead move by Jol that , by accident, paid off? I think some players look bad against certain teams. Stoke's manner of play makes Ruiz look worse. He's a very talented player, but he doesn't handle the physical 'stuff' well.
i thought he looked ok at sunderland too. just miss timed a few tackles making him look like a walking red.
I think a lot of our problems this year are down to a very pedestrian midfield. The fact that we are still watching Sidwell and Karagounis start in the middle after an entire summer transfer window is mind boggling. Boateng at least has an idea to move the ball forward and can play a decent pass.
Plus he's a big physical presence in midfield, can drop back as an extra central defender and help defending set pieces.
He impressed me at Sunderland and have no idea why he was then excluded.
him next to kasami would be my ideal pairing
when he came on , i was in the hammy end humming bob marleys ' buffalo soldier ' when he ran onto the pitch
i thought boeteng is JUST WAT WE NEED.
somebody who gets the ball and plays wiuthing his ability and simply and with some conviction. Him and Bent should be starting. In fact it was when boeteng came on i started to think we looked much more balanced.
He looked sharper so is hopefully fit now. I think he does indeed need to start, he and Diarra are the only holding midfielders we have and we need one to protect the defence. His distribution looked good as well. Then the question is do you play Sidwell or Parker alongside him; Sidwell gives us goals but Parker gives us creativity and drive. Kasami could make a good centre mid in the future as well and then there's Karagounis who is an underrated player for me.
I'm sure that very few of you will admit it, but what Boateng brought us yesterday was what we've been missing since we had ... Dickson Etuhu [the Hodgson Dickson]. As much as he was trashed on here, Etuhu broke up attacks and protected the back four -- exactly what we've been missing the last season and a bit.
I think our back four needs Boateng's steel. I hope our current manager has enough sense to keep in this "one-dimensional player" because this is the dimension we've been missing for a long time.
Quote from: HatterDon on October 06, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
I'm sure that very few of you will admit it, but what Boateng brought us yesterday was what we've been missing since we had ... Dickson Etuhu [the Hodgson Dickson]. As much as he was trashed on here, Etuhu broke up attacks and protected the back four -- exactly what we've been missing the last season and a bit.
I think our back four needs Boateng's steel. I hope our current manager has enough sense to keep in this "one-dimensional player" because this is the dimension we've been missing for a long time.
Totally agree.
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 06, 2013, 04:47:33 AM
My heart was in my throat when Senderos went for the break up play in the box and nicked the Stoke player. But no call. On the other hand, there was non call on an obvious foul in the box by a Stoke player, so it all evened out. Senderos continues to improve. Players are getting used to one another. I don't understand what's happening with Hangeland. Steady, reliable Brede is letting his team down. I don't get it. I don't know why Bent had to come in so late. Is he that much out of shape? Or was this just a knucklehead move by Jol that , by accident, paid off? I think some players look bad against certain teams. Stoke's manner of play makes Ruiz look worse. He's a very talented player, but he doesn't handle the physical 'stuff' well.
What I didn't get was at Corners in the first half Ruiz had to pick up Shawcross while Brede just stood in the middle of the 6 yard box, not once did he get near the ball when Huth went for it, is it his decision making or is it some sort of zonal thing we are trying to do?
Quote from: HatterDon on October 06, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
I'm sure that very few of you will admit it, but what Boateng brought us yesterday was what we've been missing since we had ... Dickson Etuhu [the Hodgson Dickson]. As much as he was trashed on here, Etuhu broke up attacks and protected the back four -- exactly what we've been missing the last season and a bit.
I think our back four needs Boateng's steel. I hope our current manager has enough sense to keep in this "one-dimensional player" because this is the dimension we've been missing for a long time.
Hodgson era Etuhu maybe, although Boateng seems capable of passing forwards too. But Etuhu fell apart after Roy left, he lost the ability to tackle cleanly and became a liability constantly giving away dangerous free kicks.
Quote from: MasterHaynes on October 06, 2013, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on October 06, 2013, 04:47:33 AM
My heart was in my throat when Senderos went for the break up play in the box and nicked the Stoke player. But no call. On the other hand, there was non call on an obvious foul in the box by a Stoke player, so it all evened out. Senderos continues to improve. Players are getting used to one another. I don't understand what's happening with Hangeland. Steady, reliable Brede is letting his team down. I don't get it. I don't know why Bent had to come in so late. Is he that much out of shape? Or was this just a knucklehead move by Jol that , by accident, paid off? I think some players look bad against certain teams. Stoke's manner of play makes Ruiz look worse. He's a very talented player, but he doesn't handle the physical 'stuff' well.
What I didn't get was at Corners in the first half Ruiz had to pick up Shawcross while Brede just stood in the middle of the 6 yard box, not once did he get near the ball whuihen Huth went for it, is it his decision making or is it some sort of zonal thing we are trying to do?
If his injury is back related as reported Brede may have been unable to mark Huth.
He did look good and reminded me of the wardrobe. Let's hope this wasn't a flash in the pan and e can replace Sidwell permanently
He could be the new Etuhu, a player who never got the credit for talking the pressure of the defense and allowed others to play.
Long live Dickson Etuhu. I miss him.
I'd have boateng for sidewall any day of the week.
Sidwell tries 100% and often pops up in defence to save the day! but unfortunately is not self assured enough in possession to hold down one of the two central midfield positions.
We are usually bullied in the air, and Boateng won every header when he came on, and makes us so much stronger.
Boateng and Parker would be worth trying. The one concern is whether there is enough creativity there. I don't know the answer to that yet.....
I disagree Pluto.... I felt Sidwell was really impressive today, he was working hard closing down the space and made more challenges than any other player today. He gave the ball away a couple of times in a bad ten minutes but felt he composed himself aftwerwards. I felt he lead by example today, was helped by having Boateng in the middle alongside him.... These two work better than him and karagounis.
Think Sidwell has been brilliant this season, but would like to see Boateng play.... But we need parker so it is a tricky situation unless we play 3 in the middle
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 07, 2013, 08:47:58 AM
I disagree Pluto.... I felt Sidwell was really impressive today, he was working hard closing down the space and made more challenges than any other player today. He gave the ball away a couple of times in a bad ten minutes but felt he composed himself aftwerwards. I felt he lead by example today, was helped by having Boateng in the middle alongside him.... These two work better than him and karagounis.
Think Sidwell has been brilliant this season, but would like to see Boateng play.... But we need parker so it is a tricky situation unless we play 3 in the middle
you are so used to safety first that you have forgotten what a team can do if it has a decent cm in it. we dont need 2 players protecting the back 4 anymore (because it doesnt work) so lets give kasami and boateng ago in the middle
Agreed - played in 2 won 2 - he is one of our strong arm men
