Crystal Palace manager Ian Holloway has left the struggling Premier League club after less than a year in charge.
It is unclear whether the 50-year-old resigned, was sacked, or left by mutual consent but the club have a news conference scheduled for 17:30 BST.
Beat Sunderland away, Di Canio sacked. Beat Palace away, Holloway lost his job. Trend running.
Quote from: Brown@FFC on October 23, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Beat Sunderland away, Di Canio sacked. Beat Palace away, Holloway lost his job. Trend running.
Lets hope we beat Arsenal away then
Hello Tony Pulis, Di Matteo ? I feel sorry for Holloway but from the business point of view can see why he's gone (whether voluntarily or otherwise). There are 30 games left in which to make up a current 7 point deficit so it's a far from impossible task this early in the season.
Must be so frustrating to get promotions, form a squad and be given little to no time to gel....especially when the odds are already well stacked against you anyway.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 23, 2013, 04:55:14 PM
Hello Tony Pulis, Di Matteo ? I feel sorry for Holloway but from the business point of view can see why he's gone (whether voluntarily or otherwise). There are 30 games left in which to make up a current 7 point deficit so it's a far from impossible task this early in the season.
With the squad they have? I'd be absolutely stunned if they stay up, they just don't have the quality to do so. And spending £8million or so on Dwight Gayle could prove a crazy costly acquisition.
"By mutual consent", according to the latest on the BBC website.
So many times, I've seen Fulham managers sacked after losing a game. To now be the team responsible for a manager getting sacked, feels good
Ian Holloway has left his position as manager of Crystal Palace by mutual consent after less than a year in charge at Selhurst Park.
Holloway, 50, guided Palace to the Premier League via the play-offs last season after joining in November, and had won only one league game this term.
A 4-1 defeat by Fulham on Monday left the club five points adrift of safety.
Speculation surrounded Holloway's job following a meeting with chairman Steve Parish after that game.
The pair are believed to have held further talks on Tuesday.
The former Blackpool manager said he spent a long time with his players immediately after the defeat.
Speaking before the match at Selhurst Park, Parish told BBC Radio 5 live that the manager's position was secure.
"Categorically, Ian is the right man for the club right now," he said. "We've got every faith we'll get the right outcome with him at the helm"
Holloway ended a three-year spell at Blackpool, who he guided to promotion to the Premier League in 2010 before being relegated back to the Championship the following season, to join the Eagles.
Palace were fourth in the Championship table when Holloway arrived, but held onto a play-off place thanks to an 89th-minute winner from Mile Jedinak in the final game of the season against Peterborough.
After beating Brighton in the play-off semi-finals, an extra-time Kevin Phillips penalty secured promotion against Watford at Wembley.
The club lost star player Wilfried Zaha to Manchester United, but Holloway was allowed to bring in 16 players during the summer.
Although Palace won 3-1 against fellow strugglers Sunderland on 31 August, they have not been able to pick up another point
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Looks like Pulis is front runner. Steve Parish has just been quoted saying this "Tony (Pulis) has never got relegated and he's out of work."
Would certainly mean scoring less goals, not even sure Pulis could shore up that defence.
He brought in 16 players...
Quite honestly he looked like a man who knew his fate after the game on Monday. No usual criticism of referees or anything. Just very subdued
Quote from: Brown@FFC on October 23, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Beat Sunderland away, Di Canio sacked. Beat Palace away, Holloway lost his job. Trend running.
Perhaps it's the 'How [doo doo] must you be? we're winning away!" song?
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
Quote from: Brown@FFC on October 23, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Beat Sunderland away, Di Canio sacked. Beat Palace away, Holloway lost his job. Trend running.
What a shame we lost at the Bridge.
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
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Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
Actually, scrub that. I just noticed that he won 'Swiss Sports Personality of the Year' in 2012. Get him on board!
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
If he ever comes near us I will be projectile vomiting.
Feb 8
Man United v Fulham
The final game for Mr Moyes.
In contrast to some of the rubbish in and around the Prem these days what a press conference that was. Ultimately I suspect he has been found out and the team has fractures in it that he can't repair but what an honest appraisal of the situation at Palace. He might have sneaked a point or three had he not been undone by the two goals before half time that must have drained the Palace team because before that there were posts bemoaning our lack of effort, style and fortitude. I was glad to see some colour in Jols cheeks but I wonder. Had we been beaten ................?
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 23, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
Must be so frustrating to get promotions, form a squad and be given little to no time to gel....especially when the odds are already well stacked against you anyway.
Agree with this...it's not like us where we have a manager who has been tinkering for three seasons, but we saw this last year with Warnock and it's happened to others. I feel for the guy but I guess owners must feel they need to take a shot at surviving and perhaps the training room is not what it should be....the effort they gave Monday was akin to our effort this until the last couple of matches.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 23, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
Must be so frustrating to get promotions, form a squad and be given little to no time to gel....especially when the odds are already well stacked against you anyway.
agreed. I mentioned this a few weeks ago. You are a hero getting promotion then dumped after 8 games. He is not a bad manager, but just didn't have enough quality in the squad
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Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
They'll be back, possibly when we play someone decent (Southampton) and Jol gets found out again. That result IMO was papering over cracks. I hope I'm wrong but analyse the game. Nine touches in Palaces penalty area with 57% possesion.
For the record, I'm not a Jol Hater, I stated last season that I dont want him out, I want him to sort the team out or go. A 4-1 win against the poorest side in the league doesn't quite make up for two years of negative dross. If we beat Southampton with the same attacking style then it will help but lets hope and see. And no, I dont want Di Matteo either!
As for Holloway, apparently he has had enough and was abused by fans after our result which was the final straw. He resigned after the game which was rejected and again yesterday. Shame really, a nice bloke, and a great championship manager but maybe the premier lg is too much for him.
I for one wont be sad to see his stupid rambling post match interviews though. They make about as much sense as some of Jols :dft011:
I like holloway, he is a great character and does come out with the best lines in an interview.
I would take di matteo, how can anyone say winning the champions league is luck, it is the hardest competition to win in Europe. Was Fulham getting to the Europa league final luck, no it was a blend of the manager playing great tactics and the team performing to the best of the abillity. He was sacked unfairly at Chelsea, and at west brom. Just ask both sets of supporters what they thought of him
Finally I agree with Leon palace are a very poor side, and for the first half we were outplayed. Yes the second half was a joy to watch, but every good team we have played this season we have been poor. It is going to take more than 1 good result against a terrible side for me to change my views on Jol....
I hope I am prooved wrong and we have turned a cornes but lets wait where we stand at christmas.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 07:08:27 AM
I would take di matteo, how can anyone say winning the champions league is luck, it is the hardest competition to win in Europe. Was Fulham getting to the Europa league final luck, no it was a blend of the manager playing great tactics and the team performing to the best of the abillity. He was sacked unfairly at Chelsea, and at west brom. Just ask both sets of supporters what they thought of him
Hodgson got Fulham all the way to the Europa final managing his squad very well from mid summer qualifying, being tactically astute and yes, with a bit of luck on the way.
Di Matteo just finished someone elses job playing, largley, negative football. He did very well to win it but would he have won it from match day one of the competition? No I doubt it.
He was maybe unfairly sacked at Chelsea but I'm not sure he had the wherewithalls to carry a club like that forward. Plus he seemed too much of a nice guy to deal with that dressing room!!
Anyway, he just wouldn't be my first choice, thats all.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong he would not be my first choice, but he did very well with what I felt was a good but not excellent Chelsea team. He may not have won it from day one but the way the players played for him would have stood him in a good chance, he also did well to turn around the game against Napoli I beleive where they were losing the first leg.... that was my reference to Roy as he got an average team to be one of the best in Europe, he played the right tactics and the players put their all in for the manager.
I must also state I want Jol to turn it around, but have a feeling we will be brought back to reallity on Saturday
Seen the interview with Holloway .
My respect for him has increased .
Not the usual deluded interview.
He has lost his belief so he has walked ( and I do believe he has walked rather than been pushed )
If the manager does not believe it will never happen .
Keeping Palace up this season I think is very unlikely but he has given them an outside chance .
Quote from: btings on October 23, 2013, 11:02:20 PM
Feb 8
Man United v Fulham
The final game for Mr Moyes.
Why not Nov 2nd Fulham vs United ?
A good 4-1 win would really heap on the pressure .
Quote from: Riverside on October 24, 2013, 08:13:22 AM
Quote from: btings on October 23, 2013, 11:02:20 PM
Feb 8
Man United v Fulham
The final game for Mr Moyes.
Why not Nov 2nd Fulham vs United ?
A good 4-1 win would really heap on the pressure .
Oh, just because I wasn't sure they'd sack him for losing away :)
Quote from: Brown@FFC on October 23, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Beat Sunderland away, Di Canio sacked. Beat Palace away, Holloway lost his job. Trend running.
Ha!
Kiss of death.
If you get beat by rubbish, little Fulham, you're for the chop!
Lol
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Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
I guess if wanting Jol to leave makes me a Jol Hater, then wanting him to stick around long enough to sort things out makes you a Jol Lover.
Most of us who were thrilled to bits with Monday's performance haven't forgotten the garbage displays of most of our matches dating back to January. We're hoping that we see the same sort of commitment in future games, but believe me, Jol has proven that he's not the manager for a club like ours. We need to find the right manager or we're relegation fodder.
Quote from: HatterDon on October 24, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: St Eve on October 23, 2013, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
I guess if wanting Jol to leave makes me a Jol Hater, then wanting him to stick around long enough to sort things out makes you a Jol Lover.
Most of us who were thrilled to bits with Monday's performance haven't forgotten the garbage displays of most of our matches dating back to January. We're hoping that we see the same sort of commitment in future games, but believe me, Jol has proven that he's not the manager for a club like ours. We need to find the right manager or we're relegation fodder.
Agreed. It does have to be the right manager though, not just a name picked out of the hat or who happens to be popular for having won something 2 years ago.
He's out of his depth at Premier League level. Good riddance I say- was sick of his constant whinging about referees.
Quote from: Pluto on October 24, 2013, 10:50:34 PM
He's out of his depth at Premier League level. Good riddance I say- was sick of his constant whinging about referees.
Yeah, we get all of that we can stand on this site.
Quote from: HatterDon on October 24, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: St Eve on October 23, 2013, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and
sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
I guess if wanting Jol to leave makes me a Jol Hater, then wanting him to stick around long enough to sort things out makes you a Jol Lover.
Most of us who were thrilled to bits with Monday's performance haven't forgotten the garbage displays of most of our matches dating back to January. We're hoping
that we see the same sort of commitment in future games, but believe me, Jol has proven that he's not the manager for a club like ours. We need to find the right manager or we're relegation fodder.
Consistent moaning about Jol is getting tiresome. Suggesting Dimatteo is laughable. Performances haven't been great and there are many reasons for that which have been beaten to death. I like to be positive. We beat Stoke and Palace in the last 2 games. We are 14th, 1 point below 8th. 1point behind United. It looks like we have a stable first 11 at last and I happen to think that our first choice keeper makes all the difference in defense. He came to us because of Jol. As did Reither, Berbs, Bent, Ruiz, Parker, Kasami. And Jol has hardly spent any money in his time in charge. I want Jol to succeed and Fulham to keep,winning and look forward to more nights like last Monday
Quote from: St Eve on October 25, 2013, 03:38:01 AM
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Quote from: St Eve on October 23, 2013, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and
sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
I guess if wanting Jol to leave makes me a Jol Hater, then wanting him to stick around long enough to sort things out makes you a Jol Lover.
Most of us who were thrilled to bits with Monday's performance haven't forgotten the garbage displays of most of our matches dating back to January. We're hoping
that we see the same sort of commitment in future games, but believe me, Jol has proven that he's not the manager for a club like ours. We need to find the right manager or we're relegation fodder.
Consistent moaning about Jol is getting tiresome. Suggesting Dimatteo is laughable. Performances haven't been great and there are many reasons for that which have been beaten to death. I like to be positive. We beat Stoke and Palace in the last 2 games. We are 14th, 1 point below 8th. 1point behind United. It looks like we have a stable first 11 at last and I happen to think that our first choice keeper makes all the difference in defense. He came to us because of Jol. As did Reither, Berbs, Bent, Ruiz, Parker, Kasami. And Jol has hardly spent any money in his time in charge. I want Jol to succeed and Fulham to keep,winning and look forward to more nights like last Monday
Hence, Jol Lover. Consistent rose-colored glasses about Jol is also getting tiresome. And you don't have to share that delusion to hope that Fulham does well.
OK.
We all want us to do well no matter who the manager is.
We none of us know the future despite the usual mix of fears and hopes.
Let's keep arguing.
Quote from: HatterDon on October 25, 2013, 04:22:37 AM
Quote from: St Eve on October 25, 2013, 03:38:01 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 24, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: St Eve on October 23, 2013, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 23, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 23, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
If they get DiMatteo, I'm going to be sick.
What is the big Di Matteo love-in about? He was sacked from West Brom and
sacked from Chelsea. He won an FA Cup and the Champions League, but that was definitely more luck than judgment, especially considering he'd only been in charge of a team worth over £200Million for a month. And he's been out of work
since. Nearly a year in fact. With no job offers.
I for one would rather not see him at Fulham.
I second that. It's the Jol Haters best option and wow they have been quiet recently
I guess if wanting Jol to leave makes me a Jol Hater, then wanting him to stick around long enough to sort things out makes you a Jol Lover.
Most of us who were thrilled to bits with Monday's performance haven't forgotten the garbage displays of most of our matches dating back to January. We're hoping
that we see the same sort of commitment in future games, but believe me, Jol has proven that he's not the manager for a club like ours. We need to find the right manager or we're relegation fodder.
Consistent moaning about Jol is getting tiresome. Suggesting Dimatteo is laughable. Performances haven't been great and there are many reasons for that which have been beaten to death. I like to be positive. We beat Stoke and Palace in the last 2 games. We are 14th, 1 point below 8th. 1point behind United. It looks like we have a stable first 11 at last and I happen to think that our first choice keeper makes all the difference in defense. He came to us because of Jol. As did Reither, Berbs, Bent, Ruiz, Parker, Kasami. And Jol has hardly spent any money in his time in charge. I want Jol to succeed and Fulham to keep,winning and look forward to more nights like last Monday
Hence, Jol Lover. Consistent rose-colored glasses about Jol is also getting tiresome. And you don't have to share that delusion to hope that Fulham does well.
If I want my team to do well, dislike the notion of someone like Di-Matteo taking charge but think currently under Jol we need to do better, what does that make me? Realist?
Quote from: TonyGilroy on October 25, 2013, 09:19:03 AM
OK.
We all want us to do well no matter who the manager is.
We none of us know the future despite the usual mix of fears and hopes.
Let's keep arguing.
This made me laugh. Well done.
