Quote from his book: 'surprisingly lacking in self-assurance' and 'inclined to walk, you couldn't do that at our place'
Didn't Jol say something similar about Berbatov lacking self-assurance? And that his first concern when he came to Fulham was whether us fans would like him?
so he is insecure? probably why he needs his ego stroked by Jol all the time. Berba truly is an enigma and he would be hard to manage.
wow, Berba got off lightly. Look at everybody else mentioned in the book.
Interesting but didn't Ferguson pay a boat load of money for him! And lose a boat load!
Even if it reads like a Biff and Chip book, I can't wait to get through Fergie's autobiography. Should arrive from amazon tomorrow!
Can't wait to get my hands on it myself. And yes, Berbatov has always said that about himself. He was never arrogant in his abilities and he knows he doesn't have it all. Some might say, that's lack of confidence. I can see that... But yeah, he did walk and that's the frustrating thing about him. If he had Keane in the dressing room at United, he wouldn't have lasted for too long.
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"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Ferguson isn't omniscient. And he isn't right about everything of which he has an opinion. How many Champions League titles did he win? He had a monster player budget for years. He seemed to have officials intimidated and the press in his pocket. Was he a great manager? His record says so. Did he ever really know Berbatov? I doubt it. Players like Berbatov are riddles, enigmatic, special. And then one day they are gone. And we are the poorer for it. Shut up, Ferguson.
I cant believe people want to read the bloke's book. He was blinkered in every opinion he had so I can't see that his book will be any different, just more words for his moron disciples to hang off.
As for him saying that Berba walks about too much, wasn't his brother Martin the top scout there? I would have thought he might have noticed that!!
The great Danny Murphy was saying on the radio the other day that football biographies / autobiographies aren't really worth reading as they never tell the whole truth, theres always something missing, a bit of truth bent.
I always say just because somebody thinks something, believes it, says it is true, doesn't mean it is. It is just somebody's opinion. Unless something can be shown with cold hard proof something needn't be true.
Anyway you don't have to read Fergies book to know what's in it, bits keep being quoted in every other part of the media, you can't get away from it. I feel sorry for David Moyes a bit, but i suppose he considered what he was taking on before he accepted the money.
Roy Keanes right about Fergie being disloyal, he would have gone down better in history if he had been more diplomatic about players. I suppose that's not his way though.
Very strange thing for Ferguson to do. Cannot imagine Roy or Wenger turning on their ex players. Too much class.
Quote from: Berserker on October 24, 2013, 07:41:25 AM
Roy Keanes right about Fergie being disloyal, he would have gone down better in history if he had been more diplomatic about players. I suppose that's not his way though.
The same Roy Keane who had to leave OT because of an interview he did slating practically every player in the United squad at the time?
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Sorry, Zlatan and Mario B have set a much higher bar for arrogance than that. I'm sure I could add more names.
Personally, I thought the tshirt was a bit arrogant, but also a bit of an attempt to add some levity to our situation at the time.
From what I've been able to decipher from reading various things about his book is that he has perhaps a larger ego than Becks.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Am I the only one who thinks it was more of a joke and that he was put up to it by his team mates? I don't really buy into Berba doing the t-shirt thing on his own
Quote from: YankeeJim on October 24, 2013, 06:24:35 PM
From what I've been able to decipher from reading various things about his book is that he has perhaps a larger ego than Becks.
I would be very wary about basing your opinion on a book from other people who have "read" the book. A lot of that going on at the moment.
A lot of rubbish being written about Fergie and his book and things that are supposedly in the book - which are not even in the book.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on October 24, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Personally, I thought the tshirt was a bit arrogant, but also a bit of an attempt to add some levity to our situation at the time.
This is how I felt too. I don't really feel Berbatov is arrogant. He has high standards, but not arrogant.
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 24, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on October 24, 2013, 06:24:35 PM
From what I've been able to decipher from reading various things about his book is that he has perhaps a larger ego than Becks.
I would be very wary about basing your opinion on a book from other people who have "read" the book. A lot of that going on at the moment.
A lot of rubbish being written about Fergie and his book and things that are supposedly in the book - which are not even in the book.
Perhaps I should have said preliminary opinion. It was just a thought likely brought on by my intense dislike for all things red nose. I could win the league title if I had his budget. I'd just buy every good player I could find and hire the best available coach. Oh, and whine & cry a lot.
Quote from: YankeeJim on October 24, 2013, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 24, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on October 24, 2013, 06:24:35 PM
From what I've been able to decipher from reading various things about his book is that he has perhaps a larger ego than Becks.
I would be very wary about basing your opinion on a book from other people who have "read" the book. A lot of that going on at the moment.
A lot of rubbish being written about Fergie and his book and things that are supposedly in the book - which are not even in the book.
Perhaps I should have said preliminary opinion. It was just a thought likely brought on by my intense dislike for all things red nose. I could win the league title if I had his budget. I'd just buy every good player I could find and hire the best available coach. Oh, and whine & cry a lot.
Winning a European cup in a final against Real Madrid with unfancied Aberdeen would be a more difficult feat to repeat though. 9739.gif
Everything this man has done, he's done for himself. His criticism of so many of his former players says a lot more about him than it does about them.
Jeezzz ................It's not like he needs the money.................
I don't know how that happened but Fergie has given the high (higher) moral ground to the son of Cork's Sterling Moss 064.gif 064.gif
Fergie has always only cared about his team. Disposed of players ruthlessly. That's what made him one of the greatest managers ever.
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Quote from: simplyfulham on October 24, 2013, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Am I the only one who thinks it was more of a joke and that he was put up to it by his team mates? I don't really buy into Berba doing the t-shirt thing on his own
I'm with you, I thought he did it to bring a bit of levity to the occasion and ease the pressure on the team, he was smiling and jogging when he did it not planting his feet and standing in a Cantona pose which would have been arrogant
Quote from: MasterHaynes on October 25, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 24, 2013, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
"Keep calm and pass me the ball" is arguably the most arrogant thing I have seen a footballer do, so this quote about him lacking self assurance really surprises me
Am I the only one who thinks it was more of a joke and that he was put up to it by his team mates? I don't really buy into Berba doing the t-shirt thing on his own
I'm with you, I thought he did it to bring a bit of levity to the occasion and ease the pressure on the team, he was smiling and jogging when he did it not planting his feet and standing in a Cantona pose which would have been arrogant
OK, I am not crazy. I thought I was the only one reading his body language like that.
And I think he rarely gives interviews because he's an introvert and rather shy than arrogant or prima donish.
I always laugh when I read that Ferguson is overrated, that his success was only down to money, and that anyone could do what he did given his personnel.
The man is easily the finest manager in the history of the game.
Yes, his record speaks for itself, especially, what, the 98-99 season? But if he's going to take shots at current Fulham players, he can take a long walk off a short pier. Berbatov plays in a different era, today. When hoofing fast here to there wasn't near as important as the quality of play you possess. A walker? Hardly. Few can play the way he does and have achieved such results. In any event, I think the last game showed Berbatov further adapting his game to better complement his teammates. Agree?
Quote from: HatterDon on October 25, 2013, 05:07:07 PM
I always laugh when I read that Ferguson is overrated, that his success was only down to money, and that anyone could do what he did given his personnel.
The man is easily the finest manager in the history of the game.
According to his book, on average he only spent £5 million per season.
Or maybe it was net spend, but the Ronaldo transfer would taint that stat quite a lot so I think it's just money spent.
