Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
A new manager would know what a good player he is and still make him the main point of attack...BUT if he did not do his job he would be subbed and other options used. Then Berba would be off in January and we would get a mill or two for him.
I think this is the reason why Fulham has struggled in the past 20 games. Berbatov was brought in and the honeymoon period for him has worn off and he is a hard player to manage. Throw another personality like Taarabt in there and now we have 2 of the most sublimely talented but worst attitude players in the whole league. Keeping them happy for a whole season is almost impossible and this affects the rest of the team.
That really depends on who comes in. He could still be a huge asset if used correctly and managed correctly but if someone like O'Neill came in he'd be no more effective and probably end up asking for a transfer.
He would be gone in the next transfer window .
Quote from: Jimpav on October 31, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
Combination of two of the biggest egos to ever step inside our beloved Cottage.....j and b are ruining our club. Let him rot in the reserves when Jol goes. Berbatov doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself...... and I'm not usually the vindictive kind, but I'm steaming about all this at the moment, and wont give a penny more to the club untll they are both on their bikes and cycling out of Bishops Park and over Putney Bridge. Amen
I'm not saying we should boo Berbatov at all. I hate booing. I find it a very odd concept and feel very strange when I am near people that boo. It's just an odd thing for a human to do I think.
Anyway, my feelings aside, I am intrigued as to how Berbatov would react if he got booed on the pitch.
Can you imagine the strop? He probably would stop walking completely.
For the record, I think he is a great player. Just not being managed properly, especially the tactics.
He'd be Bereftatov.
Quote from: Jimpav on October 31, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
Worse than that I'm afraid. Berbatov gets chauffeured to the airport after Saturdays games to go home to Bulgaria and returns on a Wednesday. I know this for a fact.
Well, in response to the original ?, if he's still too busy to mark anyone on set pieces, he can hitch a ride with Jol for all I care.
At the moment, his last name might as well be McToot. He's been just as much use on the field recently.
Quote from: Furby on October 31, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: Jimpav on October 31, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
Worse than that I'm afraid. Berbatov gets chauffeured to the airport after Saturdays games to go home to Bulgaria and returns on a Wednesday. I know this for a fact.
Is this a wind up?
I think he lives in London
No straight up. 100% legit. Yes he has a home in London, but he goes back to Bulgaria after Saturdays games.
I think it would depend on who came in as stated above. He is out of contract after this season anyways, so he would either work his socks off for a new contract under the new gaffer, or not give a toss and head to CSKA Sofia for his twilight days.
Get them out. I no longer look forward to match days.....
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 31, 2013, 08:08:59 PM
Get them out. I no longer look forward to match days.....
You and a lot of others
Man, Berba can still play, but seems he is deciding not to play. If this continues, ship him off.
I seriously wonder if he has it written into his contract that he has to play league games. For all his talent he's become a liability.
I think he is off in January, but I think he can still do a job for us in that time under the correct management / tactics until he does leave.
That being said I wouldnt mind seeing a whole new line up with Berbatov starting on the bench along with several others.
Quote from: Jimpav on October 31, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
I think you will find that those players not selected for the squad at an away match do not travel, i think you will find that is the norm at most clubs.
I think the criticism of Berbatov is way OTT.
He's been entirely ineffective this season and I'd guess he's depressed about that but set the team up to provide him with decent service and he'll score goals.
Seeing him play like this, I think, is the biggest condemnation of Jol. To have such an asset so badly used is criminal.
Quote from: alfie on November 01, 2013, 08:19:36 AM
Quote from: Jimpav on October 31, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Obviously this is a big IF but if Jol did go, what would happen to Berbatov?
Do you think he would play every game or do you think a new manager would be less sycophantic and drop him?
Surely out tactics would change but would they still be centred around Berbatov.
Alternatively would he be sold or indeed try and leave - following Jol to the continent or elsewhere?
Just wondering because Berbatov seems to rule the roost and Jol in particular. Pretty disgusting that he didn't even travel on Monday. He should have been there to support the team - playing or not. He clearly picks and chooses his matches and has a big sway over Jol.
I think you will find that those players not selected for the squad at an away match do not travel, i think you will find that is the norm at most clubs.
That's fair enough Alfie but my concern is that he requested not to be selected.
Give Berbatov a pass, and he will score goal. It is that simple. Relly on Siddwell to give that pass.....oh wait...
Quote from: fulhamking on November 01, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
Give Berbatov a pass, and he will score goal. It is that simple. Relly on Siddwell to give that pass.....oh wait...
Not if he is standing in our half
Quote from: Max Headroom on November 01, 2013, 10:26:03 AM
Quote from: fulhamking on November 01, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
Give Berbatov a pass, and he will score goal. It is that simple. Relly on Siddwell to give that pass.....oh wait...
Not if he is standing in our half
...well, he is standing in our half not because the grass is greener, it is because it is the only way he will touch the fricking ball....
