I am not sure. I would have preferred someone with top flight managerial experience.
I agree, not sure. Willing to give him a chance, has a Steve Kean scenario on it for me though. Great assistant/coach. Gave the reigns at Blackburn, shocking.
Only time will tell. I hope he can bring in his own coaching team so it's a proper shake up rather than just getting rid of Jol and leaving the rest the same.
I just know we could not be worse than that so Rene is in a good position.
Well I think Rene will have some time and the board will watch him closely but will have other managers in mind to bring in if necessary I think..
Notice the statement says he is taking over first team duties. They haven't explicitly said 'he is the new MANAGER.' His job title will still be Head Coach
Jol's side-kicks will go as well, Rene will have to get his own coaching team in quickly.
As many people have said before on here, it's hard to bring in a new top class manager in the middle of a season, especially after the start we've had.
Potentially a director of football is needed here as Rene has no experience with transfer dealings and has a poor record with the few players he has brought into his teams. I'd also like to see Danny Murphy on the coaching staff.
Very similar view to Alex above.
I think the job is Rene's to lose and he will make a real go to make it his.
I assume Martin Jol's "coaching squad" will be going with him so maybe only Billy McKinley will remain. Will Rene bring some help in?
I think he'll be ok, AVB hasn't done too bad in his transition from coach to manager, and to be honest Rene has learnt from the best....
Was Billy Mckinley one of Sparky's boys? What about Kit doing some coaching on the first team
Would be great to see Kit getting promoted to first team duties in some capacity I think. And, as many others have said, trying to get Murphy in wouldnt be a bad shout. We need an injection of clubmen
Come on.
It could hardly get worse. We've got what he wanted so let's not turn on RM just yet.
092.gif At least Rene can give SAF a call if he needs help. Not a bad option for him.
Would love to see Danny back in some capacity.
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 01, 2013, 04:35:22 PM
I am not sure. I would have preferred someone with top flight managerial experience.
stop posts like this and support the new manager.
Quote from: Berserker on December 01, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
Was Billy Mckinley one of Sparky's boys? What about Kit doing some coaching on the first team
No. If I remember correctly he joined Fulham when Chris Coleman was Manager. He was coach with the reserve team and then first team when Jol er promoted Ray Lexington.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on December 01, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
I agree, not sure. Willing to give him a chance, has a Steve Kean scenario on it for me though. Great assistant/coach. Gave the reigns at Blackburn, shocking.
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Sorry, that should obviously be "Lewington" in the post above.
Let's be positive about Rene and give the man a chance.
He obviously has contacts and a network of experienced coaching staff (not least from Manu) so he won't be bereft of potential assistance or assistants including Kit Symons.
I would also like Danny Murphy in some role. I think he has a lot to offer the team and the club.
I expect Jol is relieved not to be our manager any more, as was said on another post he has looked unhappy for quite a while. Only time will tell if Rene is the best person for the job, MJ had run out of ideas and had to go, and there wasn't many decent managers that were available out there, and would come to our club.
I'm prepared to give the man a chance, it may take some time to get the team behind him after what has gone on this season, but he deserves a shot.
I saw one fan mention that a Rene/Mike Phelan partnership could work. Fergie's two left and right hand men at the helm of Fulham. How would we feel about this?
None of us know if he will be any good at the job..but he has it and it can't be any worse than Jol.
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 01, 2013, 04:35:22 PM
I am not sure. I would have preferred someone with top flight managerial experience.
Just to get the jump on the inevitable......"Rene OUT!"
I wonder how long it will take for this to be the next bandwagon??
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Two weeks.
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Rene is proven as a class coach. I would just like to see a sidekick who might inspire/ motivate the team. I think Danny Murphy would be good at that or how about captain cookie coming back?
Only recently Palace were prepared to have Rene as their manager so someone thinks he is capable of handling a team in a relegation battle.
Jeez lads, give the man a chance. I would love to see Murphy as his number 2. It could be a dream partnership for us.
Isn't he in on temporary basis?
We need to give him the games to get to grips with the tea and get them playing how he wants them too. We have the quality we just don't seem to have any know how on how to play together. He is surely the best man to get that addressed.
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
FFS...
As someone pointed out on another thread, it took Hodgson three months to turn us round after the Sanchez Affair. This one, I think, is an altogether more serious situation.
I think we are going to have a very eventful remainder of the season and it won't be pretty but at least there is a glimmer of hope.
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
I disagree. I saw different, improved, tactics in both the Swansea and WHU games that I attribute to Rene and although we were still poor it was an improvement on went before.
The issue I thought was a power struggle of who had the final say in who to pick and who to substitute. The substitutions in the last two weeks have actually worsened the performance. Which is some feat
I for one am happy with Rene as boss simply because Jol lost the plot some time ago and Rene has the credentials to coach players, aka Roy. Only time will tell if it is the 'right' appointment but surely we all want to get behind him and the team to succeed?
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though moyQuote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
So right. Rene has had 2 whole weeks working under the dead hand of Jol and has totally failed to produce any improvement in a team bereft of confidence. He can't conceivably be up to the job, Rene out!
Not sure about being manager but I'm glad he's in charge of the coaching. He made a positive start in changing the formation, playing staff and captain against Swansea. I get the feeling Jol got his own way against West Ham as we reverted to his tactics and formation.
I just hope he's improved since Brondby.
Rene to meet with Ali Mac to discuss future according to the Chronicle... Maybe it's not all plain sailing!
Quote from: Berserker on December 01, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
Was Billy Mckinley one of Sparky's boys? What about Kit doing some coaching on the first team
like the idea of kit getting involved. billy was a player with us and has been with Fulham for at least 10years I should think !
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
I saw plenty of improvement in the first half against Swansea. We reverted to type against West Ham but with complete control of the team I do expect improvement. The real question is how will he handle the big egos and does he have the right connections to bring in quality players.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on December 01, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
Rene to meet with Ali Mac to discuss future according to the Chronicle... Maybe it's not all plain sailing!
Rene himself has just stated this on sky sports. He's on his way to meet AM, to go through the usual types of things you would expect him to regarding coaching staff, transfers, and future decisions. I feel he said a few good things already, certainly came across as a positive and assured speaker. Hopefully this filters through to the players. Talking of which, I'm sure we'll see Hangers play Wednesday now Jol has gone.
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Let sack him..he has been here two weeks and done nothing. I went to Greece for two weeks in the summer and was able by the end of that time to tell all the bar owners how to run their bars better than them. Lets get rid and get someone in for one week and if we haven't won the league by the end of that week we should then sack them, and if the next person doesn't win the European league by three days..well come on they have to go. We could be in the great position of sacking managers before they even get interviewed or if we are really on our game..before they are born. Come on Khan sort this out!
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though moyQuote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
So right. Rene has had 2 whole weeks working under the dead hand of Jol and has totally failed to produce any improvement in a team bereft of confidence. He can't conceivably be up to the job, Rene out!
I didnt say that what so ever - did I mention rene out? I didn't! all I'm saying is from where I'm sitting and unlike most people that post on this board - I attend the games, is that I have so far seen no improvement since he's joined - I didn't say he should go or he shouldn't be given more time - I'm merely saying I'm unconvinced and people liking him to hodgson need to get a grip
I am happy with Jol not being boss !
Give Rene a chance... new manager, new ideas, new formation, new era ! Let's beat Spurs on Wednesday !
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on December 01, 2013, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: Berserker on December 01, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
Was Billy Mckinley one of Sparky's boys? What about Kit doing some coaching on the first team
like the idea of kit getting involved.
I think all players should wear Kit. I hate it when some kids turn up in trousers and a note from their parents. Ryan Giggs was terrible for that, I once saw him running about in a game without a shirt on and just a hairy vest on..it was disgusting. Where on earth do these players get their clothes from? I can't imagine how he though a hairy vest was fashionable.
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on December 01, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
I am happy with Jol not being boss !
Give Rene a chance...
Give peace a chance too..its Christmas.
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Let sack him..he has been here two weeks and done nothing. I went to Greece for two weeks in the summer and was able by the end of that time to tell all the bar owners how to run their bars better than them. Lets get rid and get someone in for one week and if we haven't won the league by the end of that week we should then sack them, and if the next person doesn't win the European league by three days..well come on they have to go. We could be in the great position of sacking managers before they even get interviewed or if we are really on our game..before they are born. Come on Khan sort this out!
Stupid post
Quote from: Martinsback on December 01, 2013, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Let sack him..he has been here two weeks and done nothing. I went to Greece for two weeks in the summer and was able by the end of that time to tell all the bar owners how to run their bars better than them. Lets get rid and get someone in for one week and if we haven't won the league by the end of that week we should then sack them, and if the next person doesn't win the European league by three days..well come on they have to go. We could be in the great position of sacking managers before they even get interviewed or if we are really on our game..before they are born. Come on Khan sort this out!
Wow, with a CV like that, you've got my vote. Martinisback as next boss I say.
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though moyQuote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
So right. Rene has had 2 whole weeks working under the dead hand of Jol and has totally failed to produce any improvement in a team bereft of confidence. He can't conceivably be up to the job, Rene out!
I'm merely saying I'm unconvinced and people liking him to hodgson need to get a grip
Too right they look totally different. Also Roy did not have a Dutch accent.
Quote from: Furby on December 01, 2013, 06:03:06 PM
Quote from: Martinsback on December 01, 2013, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
Let sack him..he has been here two weeks and done nothing. I went to Greece for two weeks in the summer and was able by the end of that time to tell all the bar owners how to run their bars better than them. Lets get rid and get someone in for one week and if we haven't won the league by the end of that week we should then sack them, and if the next person doesn't win the European league by three days..well come on they have to go. We could be in the great position of sacking managers before they even get interviewed or if we are really on our game..before they are born. Come on Khan sort this out!
Wow, with a CV like that, you've got my vote. Martinisback as next boss I say.
You are too kind. The rest of my CV is just as impressive.
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I think you are very disloyal!!
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Quote from: One Martin Thomas on December 01, 2013, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: Berserker on December 01, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
Was Billy Mckinley one of Sparky's boys? What about Kit doing some coaching on the first team
like the idea of kit getting involved.
I think all players should wear Kit. I hate it when some kids turn up in trousers and a note from their parents. Ryan Giggs was terrible for that, I once saw him running about in a game without a shirt on and just a hairy vest on..it was disgusting. Where on earth do these players get their clothes from? I can't imagine how he though a hairy vest was fashionable.
Not exactly what I meant, but funny all the same !
Quote from: farfouille on December 01, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
I just know we could not be worse than that so Rene is in a good position.
THE ONLY WAY IS UP
I'd be happy with Rene Zellweger compared with Martin Lol.
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on December 01, 2013, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though moyQuote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
So right. Rene has had 2 whole weeks working under the dead hand of Jol and has totally failed to produce any improvement in a team bereft of confidence. He can't conceivably be up to the job, Rene out!
I'm merely saying I'm unconvinced and people liking him to hodgson need to get a grip
Too right they look totally different. Also Roy did not have a Dutch accent.
To be fair, after just hearing Meulensteen on Sky, Mclaren sounds more Dutch than Meulensteen does!!
New Fulham head coach Rene Meulensteen has been speaking to BBC Radio 5 live.
"Fulham have had too many poor results. They have had a few games when they should have picked up more points," he said.
"Fulham are not used to that. You have to be realistic - tables do not lie and you are there for a reason. That can be down to a lack of quality, luck or whatever it is.
"Everyone at the club needs to realise we must invest. As a staff we need to do the same. We need to look how we can strengthen this squad to ensure Fulham stay in the Premier League.
"I have not spoken to Shahid Khan recently. I am sure I will speak to him soon, everyone knows the background of Mr Khan and his intentions.
"His intentions will be for Fulham to stay in the Premier League. These are the things we will discuss. I spoke to Martin Jol straight away. We had a long conversation, for maybe 30 minutes.
"There is no sort of hard feelings between him and myself. We have known each other for more than 25 years."
Only time will tell.
And he will need a bit of time to sort this lot out.
Lets get right behind him, and have a bit of patience.
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Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on December 01, 2013, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though moyQuote from: fulhams_finest on December 01, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Lets be honest though meulensteen has had 2 weeks two influence the style and way the team plays and we have had no improvement on the pitch at all
So right. Rene has had 2 whole weeks working under the dead hand of Jol and has totally failed to produce any improvement in a team bereft of confidence. He can't conceivably be up to the job, Rene out!
I'm merely saying I'm unconvinced and people liking him to hodgson need to get a grip
Too right they look totally different. Also Roy did not have a Dutch accent.
To be fair, after just hearing Meulensteen on Sky, Mclaren sounds more Dutch than Meulensteen does!!
How you say...
Quote from: Sniffer on December 01, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: farfouille on December 01, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
I just know we could not be worse than that so Rene is in a good position.
THE ONLY WAY IS UP
I amused myself...he got it from a woki
Well, Rene can not do worse than Jol, that much is obvious, but, I would like to have seen us recruit a top successful manager and keep Rene concentrating on what he does best, coaching. This appointment is a big gamble for certain.
Is Rene Meulensteen up to the job as manager?
Time will tell. He certainly has a lot of experience as a coach but not as manager. I don't know the man or his abilities, so don't profess to know the answers. I don't know how much he knows about game tactics and strategy but I would think he picked up a lot working with Alex Ferguson.
I think his success will depend on whether he was Alex Ferguson's puppy, just running the coaching or whether he had a strong enough character to challenge Alex Ferguson on tactics, team selection, etc. Did RM face up to the strong characters in the Man Utd team or did he just leave that to Ferguson?
If RM is just a very good coach then I think we will see a new manager being appointed very quickly. If he was as strong a character as Ferguson then he'll have a fighting chance.
Good luck to the man, I say.
His lack of managerial experience does concern me. He may of coached a title winning side but has he ever been a relegation battle as a player/coach/manager?
092.gif To be fair it is a positive change and he needs to kick a few players up the backside. I don't think we will see that much difference on Wednesday, but I do expect next weekends game to show some improvement. He will need a strong team around him and he will need to clip the wings of a few 'superstars'. Parker will be a great Captain and I believe he will be up for the fight. January will need to see a few more 'fighters' coming in. Hanger's coming back will help as will Reither.
Time to dig in and show some metal.
Welcome Rene and Good Luck!
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mike phelan is who i reckon rene will want
I hope we get Hiddink and Rene combo.
