Not trying to be in anyway negative and go back to 'the Jol out' period
But basically the same players/squad and an incredible change in system (although
there wasn't one before) and magnificent attitude and commitment from the players
and support from the crowd.
We played with the commitment and style that Southampton did against us and it
worked 100%
Karagouni's is a gem, in fact everyone was superb and it's probably a year since we've
been able to say that.
It was great, for the last 2 games to be so excited from 3,000 miles away
Great stuff.
Jol the Troll is most likely hiding under a bridge or in a tunnel somewhere, scared to go out in the daylight! ^^, for the sake of football he wont be back in any club anytime soon!
Jol can at least take some credit for bringing the players here that performed. This is his squad.
Quote from: The Moose on December 08, 2013, 03:53:25 PM
Jol can at least take some credit for bringing the players here that performed. This is his squad.
This
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My last comment on Jol. I think he took the position with Fulham for granted, was brought in to fetch a bigger sales price. He was clearly the wrong type of manager for a club like ours. He seems to only have done reasonably well at teams with budgets. He has been found out but I do sort of feel sorry for him nonetheless. It will be difficult for him to explain his tenure at Fulham with a prospective new employer if we continue to play like we have he last two matches.
Time to move on. Rene clearly has the players motivated, something his predecessor never did.
Would almost like to see Jol in some kind of DoF role.
Quote from: callumc513 on December 08, 2013, 03:58:11 PM
Would almost like to see Jol in some kind of DoF role.
Sorry for not understanding, but DoF role? I should probably be called stupid for not understanding what it means! :P
Quote from: callumc513 on December 08, 2013, 03:58:11 PM
Would almost like to see Jol in some kind of DoF role.
Us Fulham fans are too nice. I want him back in the PL ASAP, just not with us! It would be one less team to worry about finishing above.
Jol Tweeted that he will never manage another club in England.
Quote from: grandad on December 08, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
Jol Tweeted that he will never manage another club in England.
Shame.
I cant find that tweet though xD
Quote from: K33NY on December 08, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
Quote from: callumc513 on December 08, 2013, 03:58:11 PM
Would almost like to see Jol in some kind of DoF role.
Sorry for not understanding, but DoF role? I should probably be called stupid for not understanding what it means! :P
Director of Football.
Although I was a bit gutted to see Jol leave, the players obviously didnt want to play for him anymore. We defended out 20 set pieces today. If Jol was still in charge we would have lost 2-20 today.
Sometimes, a change in manager is needed whether he's all to blame or not for the teams downfall. I personally think he needs to take a lot of the blame, but not all of it.
Quote from: K33NY on December 08, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
I cant find that tweet though xD
I'm sure his advisers took that down pretty sharpish. And probably gave him a slap for saying it in the first place.
Jol doesn't have twitter...?
Quote from: EJL on December 08, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
Jol doesn't have twitter...?
didnt even know that, dont have it myself :P Facebook is more than enough ^^
Who cares what he's thinking. It's a complete disgrace that we kept him so long. Clueless, arrogant and inept.
He is probably thinking "what shall I do with all the money I got as a payoff"
He seemed to just pick his most talented players and throw them into any old formation, hence Ruiz on the wing and other stupid moves. Rene picks players for the formation he wants and seems to favour hard work over flair, which is what we need right now. Although saying that we had players popping off all sorts of passes and flicks today.
I fell sorry for him - I think he did his best. Top level footbal management is well paid, but is also a brutal business - look at Moyes - the Everton and Man U fans are deriding him.
But the change under Rene seems immense - the players seem to have confidence in the way the team is set up, and new found belief - they seem like new players, and play like a new team, with the emphasis on the team.
I also quite like the bloke and wouldn't be at all averse to him returning in a DoF role (won't happen, I know)
After today, maybe he's thinking why did Dejagah have to suffer that long lay-off, and maybe, why did I persist with Bryan so long. More likely, he's lying somewhere warm oblivious to our result and enjoying his pay-off.
Quote from: jms on December 08, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Who cares what he's thinking. It's a complete disgrace that we kept him so long. Clueless, arrogant and inept.
:plus one:
Can't we just leave well alone now. He came it did not work his gone. We don't need to mention him anymore
I am still surprised that someone with his pedigree failed to deliver even the most basic fundamentals in a team that Rene seems to have sorted out so quickly.
And disappointed, if I am honest, as I thought he would take us up a notch.
It didn't happen. He is history. All I know is that today was the first time I have left the Cottage with a smile on my face and a glow inside for AGES.
Too early to tell whether this is the start of our season or a "positive blip" before the usual dross we have come accostomed to returns. But as we have always had a team that was better than the results we have been getting then I live in hope.
Quote from: alfie on December 08, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Can't we just leave well alone now. He came it did not work his gone. We don't need to mention him anymore
Why should we not talk about Jol? We still talk about all things past and present.
For example, Sanchez still gets mentioned all the time!
Quote from: alfie on December 08, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Can't we just leave well alone now. He came it did not work his gone. We don't need to mention him anymore
I think it's fair to analyse what went wrong under him, and compare how we played under him to how we're playing right now. The insults, however, seem unnecessary.
why all the sympathy for Jol? He was clueless and almost ruined our club. I'd be happy if I never saw his face again
Quote from: SKSW6 on December 08, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
Quote from: alfie on December 08, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Can't we just leave well alone now. He came it did not work his gone. We don't need to mention him anymore
I think it's fair to analyse what went wrong under him, and compare how we played under him to how we're playing right now. The insults, however, seem unnecessary.
...what insults..?
Quote from: Jamie88 on December 08, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
Quote from: alfie on December 08, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Can't we just leave well alone now. He came it did not work his gone. We don't need to mention him anymore
Why should we not talk about Jol? We still talk about all things past and present.
For example, Sanchez still gets mentioned all the time!
Well I for one do not talk about Sanchez, and I will not keep harping on about Jol, he has gone it does not matter now.
So, it does not matter the mess he caused and left us in ?
It's all part of Fulham history of which I've had 52 years of
and many more to come, I hope.
He's probably thinking " I wish I had been so lucky with penalty decisions"
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on December 08, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
So, it does not matter the mess he caused and left us in ?
It's all part of Fulham history of which I've had 52 years of
and many more to come, I hope.
Well to be honest no it does not because it has happened nothing can change that so there is no real point in keep mentioning his name, he got blasted on here because he mentioned the 2 D's so surely the same applies to him.
Quote from: grandad on December 08, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
Jol Tweeted that he will never manage another club in England.
Only because no one will want him :028:
Quote from: JBH on December 09, 2013, 08:47:33 AM
Quote from: grandad on December 08, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
Jol Tweeted that he will never manage another club in England.
Only because no one will want him :028:
I am sure I read a quote directly from Jol that he does not have a twitter account (official or private )
While searching I found this :)
http://footballburp.com/magazine/the-best-martin-jol-jokes-after-fulham-sacking/ (http://footballburp.com/magazine/the-best-martin-jol-jokes-after-fulham-sacking/)
I particularly liked the sack race ...................
