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Title: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Admin on January 13, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
http://www.givemesport.com/418654-fulham-must-sack-rene-meulensteen?autoplay=on
(http://www.givemesport.com/418654-fulham-must-sack-rene-meulensteen?autoplay=on)
Sometimes great coaches do not make good managers. Les Reed for example was an awful manager at Charlton. He was a good coach however and since 2010 he has been a great Head of Football development at Southampton helping to guide through a number of players to the first team.

Another great coach who is not a very good manager is Rene Meulensteen. A coach at Manchester United, Meulensteen was well thought of by any number of players but his brief stints in management have been less than successful.

Meulensteen lasted six months at Brondby before coming to an ignominious end. The Dutchman is remembered more for his unusual training techniques than his results.
These techniques included jumping out at players in training and shouting boo whilst juggling and his equally bizarre imagine what type of animal you are pre-match chats.

I mention Meulensteen's previous managerial failures because however, brief a period of time they represent they provide important background to explain help Fulham's poor form.

During Meulensteen's managerial tenure at Fulham he has been in charge for eight games that is 24 possible points. Meulensteen has only been able to guide his side six points.
More than the six defeats themselves is the manner of the defeats.

Fulham have lost 4-1 at home to Sunderland. They account for six out of Hull's 22 goals or 27% of Hull's goals and have also been thrashed by Everton and Manchester City.

To put this in context previous manager Martin Jol averaged one point a game this season. Meulensteen averages less than a point a game.

Fulham's survival rests on getting their January recruitment right. It would be foolish to allow a novice like Meulensteen to do this. Fulham should sack him now and appoint either Alan Curbishley or Ray Wilkins who are both already coaching at Craven Cottage. It might be harsh but it is the smart choice.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: rusty shackleford on January 13, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
Whenever I see shite journalism that cant even get the facts right I stop reading he article.

Here its where we have 6 points from 24 when in fact we got 9
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Lighthouse on January 13, 2014, 03:04:45 PM
Well yes this makes the sort of sense I imagine Jol agreeing with. I think we stick with the coach and hope for some financial backing. Yes I know but we can dream.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: TheManOnTheBus on January 13, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
And I am annoyed that I clicked on the link and got an advert.  These sites are funded by advertisng that they serve up - I indavertently contributed to it!
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: PokerMatt on January 13, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on January 13, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
And I am annoyed that I clicked on the link and got an advert.  These sites are funded by advertisng that they serve up - I indavertently contributed to it!


What a hilarious load of tripe that article is, for the reasons stated above. It's based on facts that he got wrong - it takes a split-second to total up 3x3 and he somehow made 6.

Give Me Sport? Give me strength  fp.gif
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Jem on January 13, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
"Sack Rene", "linked with Nani". You couldn't make it up...........but then again, perhaps they did! Journalist are about as good as our politicians.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Bassey the warrior on January 13, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 13, 2014, 03:04:45 PM
Well yes this makes the sort of sense I imagine Jol agreeing with. I think we stick with the coach and hope for some financial backing. Yes I know but we can dream.

Exactly. The author writes off a newbie, who is yet to spend any money bringing in his own players, then proceeds to recommend two people who haven't managed for a long long time.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: The Equalizer on January 13, 2014, 04:28:48 PM
A terrible article. He had no help at Brondby as they were in utter turmoil at the time. The same with Anzhi Makarena, he turned up as manager, then he was made redundant about 12 days later.

Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Scrumpy on January 13, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
As a certain grandmother would say......

"What a load of old sh1t!"
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: EJL on January 13, 2014, 05:26:31 PM
"ignominious"

Big word for an equally massive bellend.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: grandad on January 13, 2014, 05:41:21 PM
I wannabe a journo. If they can spout such drivel & still get paid it must be a good job. I could do it whilst lazing by my pool or while out shopping or in our local bar. I would not even have to know anything about the team I was writing an article on.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Barrie on January 13, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
Even if he is isn't up to the job, which may prove to be the case, I don't see that making another change now would help.  So rubbish journalism, but I think we should see where we are at the end of the season and go from there.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: epsomraver on January 13, 2014, 06:04:36 PM
really surprised you  bothered to cut and paste this shite on your forum mate, does it no justice at all.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Bedford White on January 13, 2014, 06:07:29 PM
Anyone know who this "jurno" is? I have a suspicion that Ray Wilkins wrote it...  :005:
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: filham on January 13, 2014, 06:28:28 PM
OK we don't like the article but it is already crunch time for Rene, he just has to do something positive to tighten up our defence or we may as well start building a young team for next season's championship.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Anyone else beginning to think that Wilkins and Curbishley (Asst) are Rene's take-out?
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on January 13, 2014, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Anyone else beginning to think that Wilkins and Curbishley (Asst) are Rene's take-out?

If by "take-out" you meant replacement, I thought that from the first moment I heard Curbs had been signed.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Sgt Fulham on January 13, 2014, 07:47:28 PM
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on January 13, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
And I am annoyed that I clicked on the link and got an advert.  These sites are funded by advertisng that they serve up - I indavertently contributed to it!

Haha, its like leaving food for the ants that colonise your garden.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Furby on January 13, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
Here's his profile, as you can see he has a couple of achievements. After this article he'll be getting his burger flipping star from Mcdonalds.
http://www.football.co.uk/profiles/writers/adam_page_5311.shtml (http://www.football.co.uk/profiles/writers/adam_page_5311.shtml)
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: Pluto on January 13, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
Moronic article but I do worry that by the end of the season it might not seem so. Have a sneaky feeling a few of us might be echoing these sentiments if things don't improve.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: premFlem on January 14, 2014, 02:27:24 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Anyone else beginning to think that Wilkins and Curbishley (Asst) are Rene's take-out?
Unfortunately I think the knee jerk appointments of Curbs and Wilkins could well take us out of the prem..... to many cooks.
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: K33NY on January 14, 2014, 03:11:10 AM
Many journalists seems to have taken some bad stuff before writing, but this one was one of the strangest I have read in a long time... Most of the journalists make up alot, but when you actually find a journalist who are well written in hes column, brings in facts and nopt some made up looney toon story, with, wich is rare, then its enjoyable to read, but again this is very rarely nowadays.

For example, in an article couple of weeks ago, one guy wrote about the previous Norwegian PL managers to sumarise history for readers since Solskjær took the job.

It said that when Egil Olsen was manager at Wimbledon he was there 2 seasons, then got sacked after managin for only 2 games...???? wow he was manager 2 years but only managed 2 of the games? Allso in the same article they allso mentioned that after Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes, the club never has returned to PL. And me as one who allways looks for facts noticed that last part, thinking. How can a club that doesnt excist anymore, return to PL? Sure MK Dons is what seems to be the previous Wimbledon, but no fans on Wimbledon supported this and Same year (or after) as Wimbledon changed, a new Wimbledon team was founded.

Allthough MK Dons inherritaged the history of old Wimbledon, they didnt want to be recognised with this history and wrote out after a board meeting the history and MK Dons where officially "re"-established. But appearantly this they didnt know or even thought of writing...... Its good to have alot of friends who where old Wimbledon fans to tell a bit about their club, and allso all this was even innevitable to read or hear about as it was Norwegian owners Røkke and Gjeldsten back then who owned the club, same owners as Molde FK.......
Title: Re:
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 14, 2014, 03:59:01 AM
I enjoyed reading the article. I truly did. It was a tough day and I needed something to cheer me up . Who wrote this
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: epsomraver on January 14, 2014, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: premFlem on January 14, 2014, 02:27:24 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Anyone else beginning to think that Wilkins and Curbishley (Asst) are Rene's take-out?
Unfortunately I think the knee jerk appointments of Curbs and Wilkins could well take us out of the prem..... to many cooks.

:plus one: :plus one:
Title: Re: Fulham must sack Rene Meulensteen
Post by: ltd-ffc on January 14, 2014, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: Furby on January 13, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
Here's his profile, as you can see he has a couple of achievements. After this article he'll be getting his burger flipping star from Mcdonalds.
http://www.football.co.uk/profiles/writers/adam_page_5311.shtml (http://www.football.co.uk/profiles/writers/adam_page_5311.shtml)
he should concentrate on losing some weight before doing another article