STEK
RIETHER HEITINGA HANGELAND RICHARDSON
KVIS KASAMI
DEJAGAH KACA
HOLTBY
MITROGLOU
SUBS: STOKERS,BURN,BENT,PARKER,AMOREBIETA,TANKOVIC, TUNICLIFFE
I don't think Burn is playing badly but we need some experience on the back and hangers to get into his preferred position.
Why do people keep saying we should drop Burn? He's been brilliant, what has he done wrong?
nothing wrong with him but for the sake of our survival we need someone with more experience and we can all see the Hangeland is struggling on the right side.Burn is only 21 and he will be our first choice coming next year.
Quote from: DUKE on February 02, 2014, 12:36:33 AM
nothing wrong with him but for the sake of our survival we need someone with more experience and we can all see the Hangeland is struggling on the right side.Burn is only 21 and he will be our first choice coming next year.
Hangeland is struggling because he's not very good / past it.
Quote from: The Moose on February 02, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
Why do people keep saying we should drop Burn? He's been brilliant, what has he done wrong?
Been one of our few bright sparks.
Quote from: The Moose on February 02, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
Why do people keep saying we should drop Burn? He's been brilliant, what has he done wrong?
Im with you Moose .........................I would drop Hangeland and keep the boy
Quote from: KCat on February 02, 2014, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: The Moose on February 02, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
Why do people keep saying we should drop Burn? He's been brilliant, what has he done wrong?
Im with you Moose .........................I would drop Hangeland and keep the boy
Me too, make Hangeland fight for place with Heitinga
Duke, I would play that team too. It shows an intent of attack, which we all know we need at the moment. I miss the days when we use to attack and put a team on the backfoot, but now it seems we're always on the backfoot. Things need to change quick!
If I had to take a punt on a team for the rest of the season it would be this
Stekelenburg
Riether-Hangeland-Burn-Richardson
Parker-Kvist
Dejagah-Holtby-Kasami
Mitroglou
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on February 02, 2014, 01:12:57 AM
If I had to take a punt on a team for the rest of the season it would be this
Stekelenburg
Riether-Hangeland-Burn-Richardson
Parker-Kvist
Dejagah-Holtby-Kasami
Mitroglou
the reasonI left Parker out is his ability to come from the bench and gives us a better defensive cover (bearing in mind that we are
wining sighhhh)
Also again i think Burn is doing a fantastic job is just that i am not sure how he will cope with the pressure in the last few games. Hangeland has a cooler head.
We're stuck with Hangeland to partner Burn because Amorebieta is useless and Heitinga -- as my friend Ag pointed out this morning on FulhamUSA.com -- is basically an overpriced Chris Baird [capable of filling in many positions, but not good enough to claim one as his own.
Hangeland's form is noticably poor, and either Senderos or Hughes might have made a better partner for Burn, but that's no longer an option. If, the Hangeland and Burn tandem doesn't start all our games for the rest of the season, the person to sit is NOT Burn. The kids' got game.
i agree with the original poster, but Kasami behind the striker while Holtby in place of Kasami. But with Senderos and Berba gone, i guess now the board will have to find a new scapegoat. No time for scapegoating... we have to play as a team and grind out results.
The vocal lad that sits behind me made it pretty clear that Richardson is unfortunately a prime contender for the holder of the title as scapegoat.
Tunniclife and Cole we feature a bit more. Hand picked by Rene having worked with them as kids (not that they are much more now)
The Riise / Richardson combination is more effective both defensively and offensively. (My take on why Duff started yesterday was to cover LB)
As yesterday demonstrated trying hard alone will not get us far and in my mind that questions the places of Degajah, Sidwell and to a lesser extent Kasami.
One player missing that always has a positive impact when he plays is Karagounis he should start every game and be told to wear himself out coming off after an hour an hopefully gaining a lead. How many games this season) have been 0:0 at half time with us missing at least one golden opportunity in the first half for us to end up comfortably beaten. (West Ham, Hull, Arsenal, Southampton, Swansea)
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Kvist Parker
Dejagah Holtby Cole
Mitraglou
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Sidwell, Tunnicliffe, Kasami, Kacaniklic, Tankovic
I actually don't want Burn to be dropped but the fact is that he will be dropped for Heitinga who has experience for the situation we are in
Our best performing midfielder is not even making a lot of benches here. What about Karagounis ?
I am not sure about Brede. Personally, if Burn is performing well, he should stay in. I would not have given Brede the captain's armband back until he reached his level of performance from 18months ago.
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 02, 2014, 09:59:49 AM
Our best performing midfielder is not even making a lot of benches here. What about Karagounis ?
I am not sure about Brede. Personally, if Burn is performing well, he should stay in. I would not have given Brede the captain's armband back until he reached his level of performance from 18months ago.
yes problem with that though is Parker was the one holding it, and he shouldn't be near our first team either
Quote from: fulhamben on February 02, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 02, 2014, 09:59:49 AM
Our best performing midfielder is not even making a lot of benches here. What about Karagounis ?
I am not sure about Brede. Personally, if Burn is performing well, he should stay in. I would not have given Brede the captain's armband back until he reached his level of performance from 18months ago.
yes problem with that though is Parker was the one holding it, and he shouldn't be near our first team either
I feel Parker is often guilty of trying to do everything for the team. This may be born out of frustration. I don't know. Parker needs to be more disciplined in his play.
He has to play for me.
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 02, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 02, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 02, 2014, 09:59:49 AM
Our best performing midfielder is not even making a lot of benches here. What about Karagounis ?
I am not sure about Brede. Personally, if Burn is performing well, he should stay in. I would not have given Brede the captain's armband back until he reached his level of performance from 18months ago.
yes problem with that though is Parker was the one holding it, and he shouldn't be near our first team either
I feel Parker is often guilty of trying to do everything for the team. This may be born out of frustration. I don't know. Parker needs to be more disciplined in his play.
He has to play for me.
each to there own, I don't see the point with persisting with things that clearly don't work. Bloke is useless in the final third and as in the fact he was bought in to anchor the team, our goal difference suggests he isn't doing too well at his own job either.
How is Parker being made a scapegoat? puzzles me he was always trying to drive us forward yesterday the whole 2nd half every player was poor, Parker should start next to Kvist, Sidwell should be the player who drops to the bench
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on February 02, 2014, 01:12:57 AM
If I had to take a punt on a team for the rest of the season it would be this
Stekelenburg
Riether-Hangeland-Burn-Richardson
Parker-Kvist
Dejagah-Holtby-Kasami
Mitroglou
I would go with this. I would bring on Kaca early in 2nd half for Kasami & Kara for Parker after an hour. I would have Duff on bench as cover for Richardson as there are no other RB´s available that I would play.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 02, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
How is Parker being made a scapegoat? puzzles me he was always trying to drive us forward yesterday the whole 2nd half every player was poor, Parker should start next to Kvist, Sidwell should be the player who drops to the bench
why would you start with 2 dm,'s when we need to win games. Goal difference is now not a factor so might as well lose 10 0 as opposed to 2 0. Our team has been poor all season. We have bought in players to stop the rot so let's use them.
-----------------Stekelenburg-------------------
Reither----Hangeland----Burn----Amorebieta
-----------------Parker----Kvist-----------------
---------------------Holtby-----------------------
Dejagah----------Mitroglou----------Kacaniklic
Subs: Stockdale, Heitinga, Richardson, Sidwell, Karagounis, Kasami, Tankovic
- If anyone should make way for Heitinga, it should be Hangeland. Personally, I'd keep it as it is for now.
- We NEED width so Dejagah and Kacanklic have to play. If they are not available, play Richardson, Cole, or Plumain on the wing.
- Duff is past it. RM needs to realise this. He offers absolutely nothing.
- Holtby is a class act so why not utilise him? He needs to play down the middle.
- Bent is a waste of space.
- Yes, Sidwell is our top scorer and has a terrific work-rate, but he is incredibly limited. No point shoehorning him and Parker into the same XI.
I would use rodders on the left, help us out with strength for pressing and breaks, dejagah on the left kvist, Parker, holtby in the middle
Instead of Kasami, as he is too attacking put in parker or Sidwell. As both are more defensive really try all game and are can be captain if hangeland doesn't play
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 02, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
How is Parker being made a scapegoat? puzzles me he was always trying to drive us forward yesterday the whole 2nd half every player was poor, Parker should start next to Kvist, Sidwell should be the player who drops to the bench
It really is not about scapegoats that is a waste of time and way too late ..................if we have
any chance of staying in the Premiership it will be a combination of results elsewhere and us realising what is going wrong with the team
FulhamBen got it spot on when he said:
I don't see the point with persisting with things that clearly don't work. Bloke is useless in the final third and as in the fact he was bought in to anchor the team, our goal difference suggests he isn't doing too well at his own job either.
Quote from: DUKE on February 02, 2014, 12:36:33 AM
nothing wrong with him but for the sake of our survival we need someone with more experience and we can all see the Hangeland is struggling on the right side.Burn is only 21 and he will be our first choice coming next year.
I would say it is the experienced players that have got us in to this mess. Everyone who has played us is shocked how crap we are, and the only way we are going to stay up is if we change things. We keep giving away a lot of goals in the second half and to me that is down to the age of our team. We need a mix of youth and experience. I would consider dropping Hangeland as was shown yesterday against the quick players he just hasn't got the pace or energy to stay with them. Reither needs to stay back a bit or you need to play with two holding midfield players and get one them to protect him when he goes flying down the wing.
There was a moment that epitomizes us over the last couple of years. Holtby wanted to take a quick throwing, Sidwell came took the ball, signaled to slow it down, gave it to richardson and he took ages throwing it to someone. The players either are unfit or too old to cope with 90 minutes of high tempo football and if you can't do that then there is only one outcome. Jol may not have had much money but what he did have, he spent it on crap (sorry just couldn't help myself)!
Need to sort out our defence. Gaps all over the place.
Quote from: DUKE on February 02, 2014, 01:36:30 AM
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on February 02, 2014, 01:12:57 AM
If I had to take a punt on a team for the rest of the season it would be this
Stekelenburg
Riether-Hangeland-Burn-Richardson
Parker-Kvist
Dejagah-Holtby-Kasami
Mitroglou
the reasonI left Parker out is his ability to come from the bench and gives us a better defensive cover (bearing in mind that we are
wining sighhhh)
Also again i think Burn is doing a fantastic job is just that i am not sure how he will cope with the pressure in the last few games. Hangeland has a cooler head.
His first game was against Arsenal at The Emirates and he dealt brilliantly with it. He will cope just fine.
My first ever post......
Stek
Riether Heitenga Hangerland Burn
Kvist
Dejag Parker Kasami
Holtby Mitroglu
Something like this for me......don't like Hangerland on the right.......Kvist and Parker can alternate, for me Kaka doesn't get back enough, and Kasami can, and wins everything in the air when needed
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on February 02, 2014, 10:58:44 PM
My first ever post......
Stek
Riether Heitenga Hangerland Burn
Kvist
Dejag Parker Kasami
Holtby Mitroglu
Something like this for me......don't like Hangerland on the right.......Kvist and Parker can alternate, for me Kaka doesn't get back enough, and Kasami can, and wins everything in the air when needed
First of all welcome!
You are right about kaca not getting back but Burn on the left??? He is a CB not sure he can play LB
