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Title: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 12, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
came on....was Richardson injured?, seemed to turn the game a bit for me - still we did well, this was the team that tore Arsenal apart on Saturday, and IMHO we were a little unlucky - we didn't deserve to lose
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: Pluto on February 12, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
Richardson was exhausted. I wouldve brought on Kasami though.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: JDH101 on February 12, 2014, 09:57:21 PM
Kaka is . Plain and simple. Offers nothing going forward or defensively. Let him go in the summer.


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Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: wolfie on February 12, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
they wont let him go, he got contract extension
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: kdjr100 on February 12, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
Think it might have had something to do with the yellow card he got as well. Although not sure Kaca was the right choice.

Had it gone well and Kaca had hit them on the break Rene would have been deemed a hero.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: hn4fulham on February 12, 2014, 10:42:30 PM
I thought that was a bad substitution. Richardson was at the heart of our team's drive for most of the game. Holtby, Sidwell, and Kvist were the others. Taking him off took a good amount of shine off our game. Bad call from Rene there.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: NogoodBoyo on February 12, 2014, 10:46:24 PM
I was a bit disappointed in that choice but there is logic behind it.  By that stage of the game, Holtby, Sidwell and Richardson had lost their legs (not surprising given the amount of work they put in) so the defence was just hoofing it upfield only to see Liverpool work it quickly back into the danger areas.
Kaca does have the ability to run with the ball and occupy defenders.  And he has pace.  He didn't do badly.  But I think our vulnerable area was the right.  Is it just me, or were Tuna and Reither not on the same wave length?  That's where we lost the point.  That's the area I was surprised Rene didn't fix.  Having said that, I believe Rene is an astute coach who will become a very good manager one day.  He has shown his potential in these last two matches.

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Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: Baszab on February 12, 2014, 11:10:43 PM
Richardson was excellent - looked like  he had a slight pull when he came off - should have brought Duff on to help mark Flanagan - Kaka useless at covering
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: DevonFFC on February 12, 2014, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: wolfie on February 12, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
they wont let him go, he got contract extension

Let him go, no one will want him. Most ineffective winger out, can't cross, can't go past a player, can't cut inside to shoot and can't play football
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: Andy S on February 12, 2014, 11:28:28 PM
Kaka will be fine in the championship with either us or another club but he hasn't got enough for the premier for me. Not his fault we lost though. Reither should know not to make tackles like that in the box....
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: Tonywa on February 12, 2014, 11:42:07 PM
Was a poor substitution IMHO. Kaca offers no support defensively to the left back and increasingly little going forward.  He came on and within a few minutes Liverpool attacked down the left side of our defence and we concede.  Ultimately we did not take our chances when we had our long dominant spell in the first half while Liverpool did when they were on top.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: millsy on February 13, 2014, 12:06:22 AM
Absolutely the wrong substitution. Sure, any of a number of heroes were running on near empty but agree Duff or Kasami would have been better alternatives.

Kaca is probably a decent player but his confidence was shot weeks ago and he no longer goes past his man, doesn't cross the ball and tonight missed his chance to grab glory when right in front of us in H5 he ran forward to the edge of the box with the ball and under pressure from 2 reds, decided not to shoot but to try to stop and cut back! Guess what, they smothered him and took the ball away, like candy from a baby.

I felt it was right to allow Senderos and Hughes to leave and also to let Ruiz and Berba go before the real dogfight begins. I'm afraid Kaca is another who I wouldn't want in the trenches alongside me!
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: kdjr100 on February 13, 2014, 01:29:31 AM
I agree it was a bad decision to bring him on, would have prefered Duff. However we need to stick by Kaca, he has natural talent and anybody who has played on the wing knows how much of a confidence game it is. One good perormance by him and he could become the hard working, creative and quick winger we have been crying out for, for years.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: JDH101 on February 13, 2014, 01:39:29 AM
Quote from: Andy S on February 12, 2014, 11:28:28 PM
Kaka will be fine in the championship with either us or another club but he hasn't got enough for the premier for me. Not his fault we lost though. Reither should know not to make tackles like that in the box....

I think the Championship is beyond him. Well, I think a team wanting automatic promotion would not have him in his side. Mid to lower championship side is probably his level.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: HatterDon on February 13, 2014, 02:13:29 AM
I agree. Ithink we should get rid of Kaca because he's total crap. How dare Rene sub him in for the guy we were saying was total crap just a couple of weeks ago!
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: St Eve on February 13, 2014, 02:20:49 AM
Kasami would have been a better choice but Kaca is far from crap
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Post by: MJG on February 13, 2014, 06:39:37 AM
You could tell that Richardson was done and had to come off. Its was going to be tough for whoever came on, be it Duff-Kasami-Kaca. I would probably gone for Duff but I suspect Rene felt if Kaca could get on the ball he is more direct than the other two.


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Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: TonyGilroy on February 13, 2014, 08:03:35 AM
We ran out of steam, Richardson (who'd been excellent) in particular.

The idea, I'd guess, was to try to relieve pressure by having someone who could get hold of the ball and keep possession moving forward.

Kaka did OK. He shows flashes and I think there could be much more to come from him. He needs to be less tentative. He's young enough to improve and I think a lot of Rene's selections right now are based on that.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: ltd-ffc on February 13, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
richardson had a slight niggle i reckon i highly doubt would of taken him off otherwise
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: Jack Fulham on February 13, 2014, 10:09:59 AM
Richardson had run himself into the ground. Kacaniklic would give us a bit of pace on the counter.
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 13, 2014, 10:32:16 AM
Richardson looks so much more comfortable in his left mid position - Kaka could/should learn from him
Title: Re: Not sure why Kaka
Post by: nose on February 13, 2014, 10:43:52 AM
i thought it was the right change at the right time, richardson clearly faded a bit and that side need fresh legs.. kaka did well, he just never really had a chance to take the game to them.