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Title: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: FFC Dissertation on June 03, 2010, 01:56:24 PM
Hi everyone

I am a lifelong Fulham fan currently completing my university dissertation on Fulham FC as a 'Community'.

I would be really grateful if you could spend a few minutes completing this questionnaire as part of my research.

http://bit.ly/atSBX8 (http://bit.ly/atSBX8)

Many thanks
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: The Equalizer on June 03, 2010, 02:19:44 PM
Done mate. It's an excellent topic that you've chosen to write about. Perhaps when you've completed it you could post it on here for us to peruse?

Best of luck!

Eq
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: Lighthouse on June 03, 2010, 02:25:47 PM
Yeah I usually don't bother with these things but it was well thought and so did complete it. So good luck and like EQ will be interested in the results.
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Post by: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on June 03, 2010, 02:43:27 PM
fair play to you,all done and dusted :dft012:
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: Jimpav on June 03, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
Done.

Sounds like a brillliant topic and look forward to reading the finished result.

Good luck with this and the rest of your studies.

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Post by: OldBrownShoe on June 03, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
Done :beer:

Promising questionnaire. Good luck. Hope to read you dissertation in due course.

John
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: watfordwhite on June 03, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
All done, sorry for the spelling as my minds not quite up to speed. (MAN FLU)  :045:
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: Whiteroom on June 03, 2010, 05:51:51 PM
Very good luck. I just finished my dissertation, on a slightly different topic (much less fun), and it is a great challenge. I hope it works out, and that you get a first. Hopefully your marker wont be a Chelsea fan!
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Post by: Burt on June 03, 2010, 05:59:38 PM
Done! Interesting stuff. The question I struggled most with was the question about which rival set of supporters do we get on best with...
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: blingo on June 03, 2010, 06:13:35 PM
Done.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: finnster01 on June 03, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
Done and dusted, Son.

Good luck mate.

Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: Scrumpy on June 03, 2010, 06:39:05 PM
Yep, all done. :003:

Quite a straightforward survey BUT we insist that you post some results on this messageboard, once all the results are in. Please.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: White Noise on June 03, 2010, 07:12:58 PM
And another. Well thought out survey. I am going to nick one of your questions now for general enquiry.  :54:
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: HatterDon on June 03, 2010, 07:57:24 PM
done, sir. [although it took me 10 minutes to figure out the answer to the security question!]

Now two question for you: Which university? Which discipline is the dissertation for?
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Post by: manxman on June 03, 2010, 08:24:51 PM
finshed :) sorry for the bad grammar.

best of luck, lee
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: FFC Dissertation on June 14, 2010, 12:41:12 PM
Thanks to all those that completed my survey - I must say you are a friendly bunch on here and I think I might stick around once ive finnished my dissertation!

Oh and yeah I shall give some feedback on what I find but in the mean time I could really do with your help in answering these 3 questions.

1.Can you think of any specific criteria that someone would have to meet in order to become a Fulham fan?

2.What does a fan have to do in order to be considered or accepted as a 'True' Fulham fan?

3.Can you think of any examples of when you or someone else has been excluded or prevented from supporting Fulham?
(This could be by other fans, members of the public, club officials, government officials etc or anything esle)

Thanks again for your help!  :003:
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: TonyGilroy on June 14, 2010, 12:55:40 PM
I find the questions somewhat odd.

We've all got here by an individual route but I don't think collectively we're any different from any other club's supporters always excepting the glory hunting types of course.

We don't have to pass any test to be a "true" supporter. If you think you are then that's surely good enough. Doesn't matter how many games you go to or how long you've been a supporter.

The third question I really don't understand. How could I be stopped from being a supporter. I can be pissed off by other supporters or stewards or too poor to afford to go to games but I'm a supporter if I think I am. Surely. Whether that support survives poor performances etc again is an individual choice. 
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: FFC Dissertation on June 14, 2010, 01:14:08 PM
Hi Tony

I understand what you are saying however I am looking at fulham fc as a type of 'community' and within society there are many communities and generally they are considered as a positive entity. What I am interested in looking at though are the various negative aspects attached to them such as discrimination and exclusion for example.

Like I said I am using Fulham as an example of a community as it is the only 'community' that i strongly associate myself with even though people have told me that i am part of others, however if I dont feel that i am then there is an argument that im not, which is very simialr to the point you make that if someone thinks they are a supporter then they are.  :045:

Thanks for your thoughts anyhow  :003:
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Post by: Scrumpy on June 14, 2010, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: FFC Dissertation on June 14, 2010, 12:41:12 PM
Thanks to all those that completed my survey - I must say you are a friendly bunch on here and I think I might stick around once ive finnished my dissertation!

Oh and yeah I shall give some feedback on what I find but in the mean time I could really do with your help in answering these 3 questions.

1.Can you think of any specific criteria that someone would have to meet in order to become a Fulham fan?

2.What does a fan have to do in order to be considered or accepted as a 'True' Fulham fan?

3.Can you think of any examples of when you or someone else has been excluded or prevented from supporting Fulham?
(This could be by other fans, members of the public, club officials, government officials etc or anything esle)

Thanks again for your help!  :003:

Tony, I suspect that these are questions that apply to most 'Communities' and our friend is desperately trying to make analogies with Fulham. Who can blame him for that, eh?


1 - Not really. Just need to have half a brain. Those without, head to Stamford Bridge.

2 - If they're based in the UK, then, for me, they really have to attend the odd game. If they don't even manage this, then they're no better than the average armchair Liverpool fan. For our overseas fans, then just taking an interest and 'spreading the word' is more than enough.

3 - Well yes, there are those who get banned for blatantly bad behaviour like invading the pitch, shouting racists comments etc. These are few and far between and I think 99 percent of other Fulham fans accept this as a fare punishment. Other than that, all our welcome at Fulham, as long as they genuinely support the Club.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: TonyGilroy on June 14, 2010, 01:24:07 PM
I suspect actually that we're less of a community than most clubs because the support doesn't come from a defined geographical area.

Growing up in a one club town there'll be the expectation that the Town club is yours. You'll work or go school with other supporters and use the same pubs, clubs etc.

What possibly defines us is that that doesn't apply and most of us will be the only Fulham supporter in our area/group etc. Something about us made us choose to support a club away from those of our schoolfriends etc.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: FFC Dissertation on June 14, 2010, 01:38:17 PM
LOL Scrumpy! Yeah thats exactly what im trying to do and am running out of time!  :002:

Thanks for your answers. Just wondering from what you say though what you thought of the influx of Japanese fans when we had Inamoto playing for us. From my point of view I dont see many Japanese fans at the cottage these days and I would question whether this is because Ina no longer plays for us? Obviously this may not be the case and there are all sorts of reasons why fans stop attending games, however how do you feel if that is/was the case and if we had an influx of say Samoan fans becasue we signed a samoan? Do you think there are any boundaries which make up whether or not you are a fulham fan?
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Post by: TonyGilroy on June 14, 2010, 01:44:08 PM

I think it's a matter of personal perspective. If a Japanese person comes to Fulham to see Inamoto he's not yet a Fulham supporter but may well become one. If he lapses after Ina leaves then all you can say is that for a while he was a supporter. I don't have a problem with that.

I don't feel that there's a test that people should be expected to pass. Almost by definition those of us who are on this board are hardcore but it's not necessary, for me, that others be as committed.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: FFC Dissertation on June 14, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
Ok, thanks Tony. I appreciate your perspective.
Title: Re: FFC Dissertation - Help Required Please
Post by: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on June 14, 2010, 01:48:49 PM
I'll give it a go

1.Can you think of any specific criteria that someone would have to meet in order to become a Fulham fan?

Understanding and heart,we are never going to be a top four team,we will always be the under dog,if you are a glory hunter you've got the wrong club.If you understand that as a club we will always be up against it(and this makes the highs very high and the lows easier to take"just") but get behind the club anyway because you feel a connection to the club that'll do for me-not that my opinion matters as it's an individual choice,as long as it matters to you great-if not their is a bunch of muppets down the street you can support :dft012:



2.What does a fan have to do in order to be considered or accepted as a 'True' Fulham fan?

care for & love the club-their will always be older,longer serving fans,the thing that links us all is we all have to have a first game,so stop wasting time and get down to the Cottage :clap_hands: :dft012:


3.Can you think of any examples of when you or someone else has been excluded or prevented from supporting Fulham?
(This could be by other fans, members of the public, club officials, government officials etc or anything esle)
trouble makers are correctly banned from the Cottage,they possibly will still be fans just banned from the ground

the questions do seem strange,you have to understand that the fans connection with each other is that they all feel strongly about this odd little club by the river-they could be born into it,found it by chance(me) or tuned into the tv in a far away country and thought "that'll do for me",the thing that matters,the ONLY thing that matters is that we all love our club :clap_hands: