Greetings,
Since Mitroglou signed in Fulham, I have to admit that I became a fan also of your team. I hope that we will avoid relegation, with a bit of luck.
Just today Mitroglou (which Im a big fan too, and can answer a lot of your questions about his play style, capabilities etc), returned to team's full training program. He seems that he is healthy again, and soon he ll be able to show his true potential !
Thanks again for letting me join your forums 049:gif 049:gif
We stay our delight with bated breath.......
Evening....
I just posted about Mitroglou being injured.....
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 24, 2014, 10:42:14 PM
Greetings,
Since Mitroglou signed in Fulham, I have to admit that I became a fan also of your team. I hope that we will avoid relegation, with a bit of luck.
Just today Mitroglou (which Im a big fan too, and can answer a lot of your questions about his play style, capabilities etc), returned to team's full training program. He seems that he is healthy again, and soon he ll be able to show his true potential !
Thanks again for letting me join your forums 049:gif 049:gif
Considering there are only 3 games left, he'd better hurry up !
The next game he starts will be an international friendly for Greece.
I'm glad. Maybe a bench spot on Saturday.
May be a question you can't answer, but:
If we go down, is he the type who will feel he owes us and so will stay in order to help us come straight back up? Or is he likely to jump ship immediately?
Quote from: PokerMatt on April 24, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
May be a question you can't answer, but:
If we go down, is he the type who will feel he owes us and so will stay in order to help us come straight back up? Or is he likely to jump ship immediately?
He is a professional player and an ambitious one. He left Champion Olympiakos and his chance to move forward in CL, for a Premiership Team, even if you are struggling to stay up. Im assuming that if you go down then probably a 1st division (England, Italy, Germany) team will surely make an offer to cover his contract. Correct me if im wrong, but I don't recall such big contract players playing in Football League. Besides, even if he is your most expensive contract, 2.5mil euro/year, aint that much for a talented 26yo striker playing in premiership.
As about Ron, its kinda odd having fans behaving for your players like this, especially in such critical timing. Have faith to your players, cause they need your support also to play at their 100%. Mitroglou is that kind of player, he gets a lot from his fans!
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 24, 2014, 11:52:56 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on April 24, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
May be a question you can't answer, but:
If we go down, is he the type who will feel he owes us and so will stay in order to help us come straight back up? Or is he likely to jump ship immediately?
He is a professional player and an ambitious one. He left Champion Olympiakos and his chance to move forward in CL, for a Premiership Team, even if you are struggling to stay up. Im assuming that if you go down then probably a 1st division (England, Italy, Germany) team will surely make an offer to cover his contract. Correct me if im wrong, but I don't recall such big contract players playing in Football League. Besides, even if he is your most expensive contract, 2.5mil euro/year, aint that much for a talented 26yo striker playing in premiership.
As about Ron, its kinda odd having fans behaving for your players like this, especially in such critical timing. Have faith to your players, cause they need your support also to play at their 100%. Mitroglou is that kind of player, he gets a lot from his fans!
QPR have had a bunch of hugely paid players in the Championship, but they did shift some out on loans.
My next question then, is, who's willing to buy out and match the contract of a player who (and I don't doubt he's talented) hasn't done anything worthy for another PL team to want to buy him?
Quote from: PokerMatt on April 24, 2014, 11:57:07 PM
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 24, 2014, 11:52:56 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on April 24, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
May be a question you can't answer, but:
If we go down, is he the type who will feel he owes us and so will stay in order to help us come straight back up? Or is he likely to jump ship immediately?
He is a professional player and an ambitious one. He left Champion Olympiakos and his chance to move forward in CL, for a Premiership Team, even if you are struggling to stay up. Im assuming that if you go down then probably a 1st division (England, Italy, Germany) team will surely make an offer to cover his contract. Correct me if im wrong, but I don't recall such big contract players playing in Football League. Besides, even if he is your most expensive contract, 2.5mil euro/year, aint that much for a talented 26yo striker playing in premiership.
As about Ron, its kinda odd having fans behaving for your players like this, especially in such critical timing. Have faith to your players, cause they need your support also to play at their 100%. Mitroglou is that kind of player, he gets a lot from his fans!
QPR have had a bunch of hugely paid players in the Championship, but they did shift some out on loans.
My next question then, is, who's willing to buy out and match the contract of a player who (and I don't doubt he's talented) hasn't done anything worthy for another PL team to want to buy him?
It will depend.. if he recovered 100% from sneaky knee injury. Everyone knows that knee injuries may be complicated. So if he can play last 1-2 Fulham matches and in Mundial quite good, then surely a team mentioned above will cover his contract. But lets just wish that Fulham will stay up!!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-v-hull-kostas-mitroglou-3453567? (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-v-hull-kostas-mitroglou-3453567?)
Let's hope the Mirror has got this one right. He may be good for 30mins.
Don't worry, I'm sure Stoke will put an end to any recovery that Mitro is trying to make!
Wouldn't risk him at this late stage of the season. It takes time to get up to speed with the league. May be throw him on for the last 15 mins if we need a goal.
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Stable door is still not locked and the horse has bolted and is in a Greek Restaurant somewhere as the dish of the day. Too little, too late.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 25, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
Stable door is still not locked and the horse has bolted and is in a Greek Restaurant somewhere as the dish of the day. Too little, too late.
I'm sure there's a mixed metaphor hidden in there, somewhere, trying to get out !
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 25, 2014, 09:56:52 AM
Wouldn't risk him at this late stage of the season. It takes time to get up to speed with the league. May be throw him on for the last 15 mins if we need a goal.
Make no mistake, we are always in need of a goal and we are desperate for a goalscorer. If Mitroglou was to chip in with 2 or 3 goals in the last three games it could just make the difference between relegation and survival. It is of course a long shot because even if his knee is sound there is no way he can be match fit.
Diarra put in two excellent performances without being match fit. We don't know how Mitroglu looks in training but if he seems ready I'd certainly at least want him on the bench.
It's the sort of thing we simply can't know from our keyboards.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on April 25, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Diarra put in two excellent performances without being match fit. We don't know how Mitroglu looks in training but if he seems ready I'd certainly at least want him on the bench.
It's the sort of thing we simply can't know from our keyboards.
That's true , so lets dream of a stunning three games from Mitroglou with goals that save us from relegation.
In our present predicament I am willing to clutch any attractive looking straw that is offered.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on April 25, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Diarra put in two excellent performances without being match fit. We don't know how Mitroglu looks in training but if he seems ready I'd certainly at least want him on the bench.
It's the sort of thing we simply can't know from our keyboards.
That's true so lets dream of Mitroglou playing and scoring critical goals that result in survival for us.
At this stage I am willing to clutch at any attractive looking straw that provides hope.
Regardless of everyone's scepticism, if he comes on as a sub or starts, lets give a roar of encouragement
Quote from: TerryR on April 25, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
Regardless of everyone's scepticism, if he comes on as a sub or starts, lets give a roar of encouragement
:plus one: ......and keep roaring encouragement the whole game.
Quote from: TerryR on April 25, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
Regardless of everyone's scepticism, if he comes on as a sub or starts, lets give a roar of encouragement
Aye to this, Terry. :clap_hands:
Quote from: RaySmith on April 25, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: TerryR on April 25, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
Regardless of everyone's scepticism, if he comes on as a sub or starts, lets give a roar of encouragement
:plus one: ......and keep roaring encouragement the whole game.
For everybody please
No scapegoats
Just 100% support
Make sure we are the 12th and if necessary 13th man .
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mcgath has confirmed Kostas back in training but tomorrow is too soon for him
Quote from: Fulham1959 on April 25, 2014, 10:28:58 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 25, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
Stable door is still not locked and the horse has bolted and is in a Greek Restaurant somewhere as the dish of the day. Too little, too late.
I'm sure there's a mixed metaphor hidden in there, somewhere, trying to get out !
The metaphor has bolted after the ugly duck became a swan. Too many cooks spoilt the red sky at night. A metaphor is never appreciated in its own Country.
Lets hope he can do at least 50% of what he did so far..
Kostas Mitroglou - From Zero to Hero | Welcome to Fulham FC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs98TpJQWhE#ws)
Cheer him up and he will score for you!!
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 25, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
Lets hope he can do at least 50% of what he did so far..
Kostas Mitroglou - From Zero to Hero | Welcome to Fulham FC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs98TpJQWhE#ws)
Cheer him up and he will score for you!!
Magath confirms that he is back in training! Says this weekend is too soon though, or is it a Magath mind game?
So far Magath hasn't played anyone he had previously ruled out, but there's always time for a first.
I doubt we'll see him though if he's only just back in training. Doesn't seem like the sort of gamble Magath would take to me.
Agree PM, he may squaeeze on the bench at the very best. Possible 10 mins at the end, quick fire hat-trick all is forgiven lol
"Maybe next week" (repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, til season end.)
I'm starting to hate this Mitroglou situation more and more each day
Personally hope we never see his ugly face in a Fulham shirt ever again , hope he's sold to a Turkish club in the summer and I hope Greece get knocked out in the group stages !
The perfect summer for me.
its not his fault we paid so much for him when he wasnt fit, blame the powers that be and the guys doing the medical.
Quote from: Riversider on April 25, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Personally hope we never see his ugly face in a Fulham shirt ever again , hope he's sold to a Turkish club in the summer and I hope Greece get knocked out in the group stages !
The perfect summer for me.
C'mon, that's not really sensible now is it?
Lets hope he gets to play a part in our great escape.
Outside of that its pointless .
Quote from: Riversider on April 25, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Personally hope we never see his ugly face in a Fulham shirt ever again , hope he's sold to a Turkish club in the summer and I hope Greece get knocked out in the group stages !
The perfect summer for me.
Ah we have different views on perfect
My perfect is that he plays a part in the last 2 games , scoring in each , enabling 3 points in each , ensuring that we remain in the premier league
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 25, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
A metaphor is never appreciated in its own Country.
And neither is the past.
The guy was hurt when we bought him, and then seems to have reinjured a knee. I have never understood the vitriol toward him. Fan frustration is fine, but take it out on the management team that bought injured goods at the deadline because other options weren't closed and the club's communication strategy that has left Mitro looking like a lame duck/slacker. If they had given a normal injury update for him (reinjured knee in practice, needs to see specialist, probably out several weeks but not determined yet), no one would be ripping Mitro.
Whoever says poo about Mitro is an idiot...!! The guy hasn't played yet when 100% fit and Nothing that is said against him here is true...fans like "Baider + Riversider " make Fulham look bad !!
Quote from: Riversider on April 25, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Personally hope we never see his ugly face in a Fulham shirt ever again , hope he's sold to a Turkish club in the summer and I hope Greece get knocked out in the group stages !
The perfect summer for me.
That's... definitely a thing.
even if motro is 100% fit (which I doubt) he cannot start, surely. Hugo has to start and then bring mitro on if needed later. he cannot be match fit therefore not 90 minutes.
Have I missed something? - Felix's video says everyone is fit, so it's a question of who he decides to play, not that the new Gordon Davies / new Steve Marlet (delete according to level of optimism) will be available 'maybe next week.'
If he scores one goal and it keeps us up.....
Quote from: Riversider on April 25, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Personally hope we never see his ugly face in a Fulham shirt ever again , hope he's sold to a Turkish club in the summer and I hope Greece get knocked out in the group stages !
The perfect summer for me.
If you don't want him to play in a Fulham shirt again surely you want us to go down and Greece to win the world cup with Mitroglou top scorer?
strange motives you have
Quote from: Texas White on April 25, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
If he scores one goal and it keeps us up.....
He will be worth far more than the 11 million the club paid
Quote from: Dan in Notts on April 25, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Have I missed something? - Felix's video says everyone is fit, so it's a question of who he decides to play, not that the new Gordon Davies / new Steve Marlet (delete according to level of optimism) will be available 'maybe next week.'
Don't forget Steve Earle (alongside Gordon, clearly - not the French duffer).
Quote from: Denver Fulham on April 25, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
If they had given a normal injury update for him (reinjured knee in practice, needs to see specialist, probably out several weeks but not determined yet), no one would be ripping Mitro.
Exactly so. The reason they've been so quiet is they're embarrassed about the whole mismanaged saga and, as a result, they've added insult to injury by turning a footballing disaster into a PR one too. But that's not the Greek dude's fault.
Quote from: Neil D on April 25, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
Don't forget Steve Earle (alongside Gordon, clearly - not the French duffer).
Before my time, so can only go on reputation (handy on the guitar though, Americana fans).
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
*rodders
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
Agree!
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
Quote from: nose on April 25, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
I rather tend to agree with your version of events rather than the rather fanciful notions of a kindly genius putting himself out to help the justness of our cause !
Quote from: nose on April 25, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
You are absolutely wrong. He left CL and champion Olympiakos for a more competitive league. No doubt that if Mitro plays good, he will not stay in Fulham. Its just a step to move forward. Any great player was first tested in a great league, in a smaller team though, before moving to 1st class team like Arsenal etc... This guy will make you richer at least 40mil, if you support him and if he manages to overcome his injury.
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 25, 2014, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: nose on April 25, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
You are absolutely wrong. He left CL and champion Olympiakos for a more competitive league. No doubt that if Mitro plays good, he will not stay in Fulham. Its just a step to move forward. Any great player was first tested in a great league, in a smaller team though, before moving to 1st class team like Arsenal etc... This guy will make you richer at least 40mil, if you support him and if he manages to overcome his injury.
I think the £40m figure needs to be scrutinised by an accountant to make sure that it's not a figure plucked from the air...
....and come to think of it, that there isn't a minus sign in front of it........
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 25, 2014, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: nose on April 25, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
You are absolutely wrong. He left CL and champion Olympiakos for a more competitive league. No doubt that if Mitro plays good, he will not stay in Fulham. Its just a step to move forward. Any great player was first tested in a great league, in a smaller team though, before moving to 1st class team like Arsenal etc... This guy will make you richer at least 40mil, if you support him and if he manages to overcome his injury.
At this moment in time, he isn't worth 4 million, let alone 40 million. I've got nothing against the guy, it wasn't his fault he was bought injured, but he's hardly set the world alight and put himself in the shop window - yet. My hope is that Fulham stay up and he gets a good run next season, if we're relegated, it'll be a bit like the Remy situation where he'll go out on loan.
OK
OK everyone bring the temperature down a bit.
The new Greek fans are following their hero and they feel hurt and perplexed by the situation.
We're feeling worried and stressed as relegation looms and in January his signing looked like a moment of genius.
All of us are at sea at the moment and worried.
Tomorrow is a BIG day.
We need to win.
If we do and the Greek superstar scores a brace in subsequent games, and keeps us up, all of us will be over the moon.
More than that we will sing his praises from the Hammy end.
The Riverside fans will raise our prawn sandwiches in salute and celebrate in our own ( frustratingly demure) way.
The Johnny Hayes stand brigade will rejoice and faithfully chronicle the events for posterity.
Putney neutrals will hesitantly cheer in a half crouch then run to the shop to buy scarfs and Mitro shirts after the game.
If we lose tomorrow.....
it doesn't matter what he does from Sunday on.
No doubt I will still cling to hope but it will be all but over......
EVERYONE is stressed.
But think about it for a moment.
If we were mid table with nothing to play for would tomorrow be the sort of edge of your seat affair it promises to be?
I think not whether you're sitting in London, the US or Athens.
This is what it means to be a supporter.
THIS IS LIVING.
I'm so glad I'm a supporter of this team.
I'm hating but loving these final few weeks.
Time to be together and cheer tomorrow whether its at Craven Cottage or in front of a TV screen or swearing at a crappy stream, in NYC, LA, Oz or Greece.
Isn't it something we all have this amazing common cause?
I think its incredibly fantastic.
All over the world tomorrow at 3 pm West London time we will be one.
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Sermon over.
T
Quote from: Mitroglou on April 25, 2014, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: nose on April 25, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on April 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Y hate a champions league and national first pick until he has let us down. The amount of abuse players get on here when they haven't played or been given a fair chance is unreal. I doubted Rodgers but he has done well. I doubt bent but nobody can really say he has been given a real go considering his record and style of play. Mitro has done nothing wrong or right so save your breath till he comes on (if he does) and support the guy who left champions league to play for fulham and help us stay up. Just remember he can't pick himself. Bet he is itching to play
I admire your sentiment but he knew he was unfit and unlikely to be able to play OR he is faking it and hoping to stay fit for the world cup. My experience tells me, this is a mega stich up of our club. I absolutely doubt the player, nobody would have left a club in the champions league to join us if it was kosher, if he was that good he would have gone elsewhere.
I think he has been given a fair chance, we needed a fit and honest player.
You are absolutely wrong. He left CL and champion Olympiakos for a more competitive league. No doubt that if Mitro plays good, he will not stay in Fulham. Its just a step to move forward. Any great player was first tested in a great league, in a smaller team though, before moving to 1st class team like Arsenal etc... This guy will make you richer at least 40mil, if you support him and if he manages to overcome his injury.
Well if we examine the facts.... we needed a fit striker to help is stay up. mitro came injured pretending he was almost ready to play and what we saw at WBA was a disgraceful and pathetic attempt to show what he might be capable of. his effort was almost zero and touch poor.
maybe he was a good player and maybe he will be again but we needed a player capab;e of joining the fight and he has been woefully lacking, what he and his ex team have done to us is quite simply outrageous, in any other walk of life we could have taken legal action for misrepresentation.
He didn't leave olympiakos for a more competitive league, he left so the team could cash in on a crock and he could rest up before the world cup, not having to put on a show.... I fully expect him to play fully fit for greece and then probably return too tired from his efforts. Sorry to say this whole affair is a nasty con trick.
Quote from: TerryR on April 25, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
OK
OK everyone bring the temperature down a bit.
The new Greek fans are following their hero and they feel hurt and perplexed by the situation.
We're feeling worried and stressed as relegation looms and in January his signing looked like a moment of genius.
All of us are at sea at the moment and worried.
Tomorrow is a BIG day.
We need to win. If we do and the Greek superstar stores in subsequent games and keeps us up all of us will be happy.
If we lose tomorrow, it doesn't matter what he does from Sunday on.
No doubt I will still cling to hope but it will be all but over......
EVERYONE is stressed.
But think about it for a moment.
If we were mid table with nothing to play for would tomorrow be the sort of edge of your seat affair it promises to be?
I think not whether you're sitting in London, the US or Athens.
This is what it means to be a supporter.
THIS IS LIVING.
I'm so glad I'm a supporter of this team.
I'm hating but loving these final few weeks.
Time to be together and cheer tomorrow whether its at Craven Cottage or in front of a TV screen or swearing at a crappy stream, in NYC, LA, Oz or Greece.
Isn't it something we all have this amazing common cause?
I think its incredibly fantastic.
All over the world tomorrow at 3 pm West London time we will be one.
Sermon over.
T
sorry is it overheated. I don't mean to be but we paid good money for an injured polayer that we needed. how can you defend that? It is just wrong but I am finished now with this topic. No doubt if he managees to find his way to the ground tomorrow and scores a stunning winner, having put in a great shift i may start to review the situation, but i wouldn't hold your breath.
Done now.
Quote from: TerryR on April 25, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
OK
OK everyone bring the temperature down a bit.
The new Greek fans are following their hero and they feel hurt and perplexed by the situation.
We're feeling worried and stressed as relegation looms and in January his signing looked like a moment of genius.
All of us are at sea at the moment and worried.
Tomorrow is a BIG day.
We need to win.
If we do and the Greek superstar scores a brace in subsequent games, and keeps us up, all of us will be over the moon.
More than that we will sing his praises from the Hammy end.
The Riverside fans will raise our prawn sandwiches in salute and celebrate in our own ( frustratingly demure) way.
The Johnny Hayes stand brigade will rejoice and faithfully chronicle the events for posterity.
Putney neutrals will hesitantly cheer in a half crouch then run to the shop to buy scarfs and Mitro shirts after the game.
If we lose tomorrow.....
it doesn't matter what he does from Sunday on.
No doubt I will still cling to hope but it will be all but over......
EVERYONE is stressed.
But think about it for a moment.
If we were mid table with nothing to play for would tomorrow be the sort of edge of your seat affair it promises to be?
I think not whether you're sitting in London, the US or Athens.
This is what it means to be a supporter.
THIS IS LIVING.
I'm so glad I'm a supporter of this team.
I'm hating but loving these final few weeks.
Time to be together and cheer tomorrow whether its at Craven Cottage or in front of a TV screen or swearing at a crappy stream, in NYC, LA, Oz or Greece.
Isn't it something we all have this amazing common cause?
I think its incredibly fantastic.
All over the world tomorrow at 3 pm West London time we will be one.
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Sermon over.
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Of course we are over heated and stressed .
I edited my original post.
Nose, why do you seem 100% certain the blame lies with Mitroglou and Olympiakos?
Fulham could have bought other strikers in January. Fulham gave Mitroglou a medical prior to purchase. Stories have come out that Fulham may have gone after Finnbogason right at the deadline, which was clearly after the Mitroglou process started and quite possibly initiated after his Thursday AM medical.
It's also possible that West Ham's interest subsided after they learned the extent of his knee problem. It was nice for the media to spin it that Mitro chose Fulham over West Ham, but that might not be true. It may have been a marriage of convenience and risk/reward for both sides.
While it's nice to believe as a fan that our club got rooked by a player/agent/Greek club eager to con them, the reality is probably much more boring and centered on our own club's poor process. And that totally ignores the fact that he apparently was re-injured in training in March, and this isn't an extension of the initial problem (unless that problem caused this problem, but who knows).
You don't buy a car without looking under the hood. We knew perfectly what the injury situation was: either it got worst (unexpectedly) or something happened in training. But this is hardly the player's fault - just one of those things most likely.
Absolutely ridiculous that someone is claiming he knew he wouldn't play this season. The two options are apparently that he hid an injury or he's lying about it now. I'll say it again: ridiculous.
Firstly even if he wanted to hide a season-ending injury he wouldn't have passed a medical - especially ours.
And for the second case of lying about it now so he can play in the world cup? Why on earth would playing now harm his WC chances and, again, we're a Premier League club so his injury will constantly be being checked and it is their call, not his whether he plays.
Bloody hell there's some emotions being put ahead of sense in this thread.
The two possibilities in regards to this situation are:
1) He hasn't actually signed for us and has in fact won a competition to watch Premier League football with four mates with accommodation and expenses thrown in. Plus he has been give £10000 to spend.
2) he has lost his nerve and shys away from football pitches. The solution is to either use blinkers or a bag over his head and take it off when he is in the centre circle just before the off. I just hope he won't then career into Rodders and Sidwell and bring them down too...
The simple FACT is that Mitroglou has just not been good enough to be considered for selection - whether because of injury or not - it's not his fault - it's the purchase that everyone is so fed up about, as we could have used £12m in investing in other players who could have had a profound effect on keeping us up - Magath has sensibly not selected him into the squad because he has watched him train for the last 8 weeks
I said from day one, as an Olympiakos fan -
Stupid deal for Olympiakos - we did not need the money. Disrupted us and gave a bad impression of our club selling such a big striker before our game with Man U.
Stupid deal for Fulham - under pressure of relegation - plucking an injured, unproven at premier league level striker, who thrives in a system where he is surrounded by flair players.
Stupid deal for mitroglou who is now left in limbo - in a foreign country where his value has collapsed.
Bad piece of business. However I do not blame Fulham for taking a shot. If he recovered from that injury he could have definitely helped. Just unlucky.
Quote from: Greek on April 26, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
I said from day one, as an Olympiakos fan -
Stupid deal for Olympiakos - we did not need the money. Disrupted us and gave a bad impression of our club selling such a big striker before our game with Man U.
Stupid deal for Fulham - under pressure of relegation - plucking an injured, unproven at premier league level striker, who thrives in a system where he is surrounded by flair players.
Stupid deal for mitroglou who is now left in limbo - in a foreign country where his value has collapsed.
Bad piece of business. However I do not blame Fulham for taking a shot. If he recovered from that injury he could have definitely helped. Just unlucky.
I don't see how this can be a bad deal for Olympiakos. You should be laughing all the way to the bank at our incompetence.
We are owned by a billionaire. We have no debt. We didn't need to sell. I am not 100% sure if he had stayed in Greece he would have done in his knee and we probably could have used him. We were knocked out the domestic cup and CL because we ran out of strikers and attacking players. Saviola - injured, Weiss sld, Mitroglou sold, Scepovic injured, Olaitan - injured (heart attack) etc
Actually he scores a hat-trick at Stoke and then against Palace.
And then my alarm clock went off..
Quote from: Denver Fulham on April 26, 2014, 01:51:46 AM
Nose, why do you seem 100% certain the blame lies with Mitroglou and Olympiakos?
Fulham could have bought other strikers in January. Fulham gave Mitroglou a medical prior to purchase. Stories have come out that Fulham may have gone after Finnbogason right at the deadline, which was clearly after the Mitroglou process started and quite possibly initiated after his Thursday AM medical.
It's also possible that West Ham's interest subsided after they learned the extent of his knee problem. It was nice for the media to spin it that Mitro chose Fulham over West Ham, but that might not be true. It may have been a marriage of convenience and risk/reward for both sides.
While it's nice to believe as a fan that our club got rooked by a player/agent/Greek club eager to con them, the reality is probably much more boring and centered on our own club's poor process. And that totally ignores the fact that he apparently was re-injured in training in March, and this isn't an extension of the initial problem (unless that problem caused this problem, but who knows).
I was responding to a comment, IMO the fault lies almost with our end almost entirely. How could they not have spotted this player wasn't suitable and injured (and had been for some time so was bound to be a risk with or without medical). But integrity ( a word not used in modern football i am afraid) was not very great with kostas and olympiacos either). They knew he was crocked and they knew we needed a player to hit the ground running.
just my opinion of football management and players is extremely low as i am sure you can tell.
Quote from: nose on April 26, 2014, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on April 26, 2014, 01:51:46 AM
Nose, why do you seem 100% certain the blame lies with Mitroglou and Olympiakos?
Fulham could have bought other strikers in January. Fulham gave Mitroglou a medical prior to purchase. Stories have come out that Fulham may have gone after Finnbogason right at the deadline, which was clearly after the Mitroglou process started and quite possibly initiated after his Thursday AM medical.
It's also possible that West Ham's interest subsided after they learned the extent of his knee problem. It was nice for the media to spin it that Mitro chose Fulham over West Ham, but that might not be true. It may have been a marriage of convenience and risk/reward for both sides.
While it's nice to believe as a fan that our club got rooked by a player/agent/Greek club eager to con them, the reality is probably much more boring and centered on our own club's poor process. And that totally ignores the fact that he apparently was re-injured in training in March, and this isn't an extension of the initial problem (unless that problem caused this problem, but who knows).
I was responding to a comment, IMO the fault lies almost with our end almost entirely. How could they not have spotted this player wasn't suitable and injured (and had been for some time so was bound to be a risk with or without medical). But integrity ( a word not used in modern football i am afraid) was not very great with kostas and olympiacos either). They knew he was crocked and they knew we needed a player to hit the ground running.
just my opinion of football management and players is extremely low as i am sure you can tell.
Totally agree, but I'm so glad he managed to turn out for his National Team in his time with us, and perhaps he'll make a miraculous recovery in time for the WCF, who knows? Our management obviously don't!!
Why does Magath not play/risk a star striker in Mitroglou, yet risks/plays Diarra who is clearly unfit, and even throws on Darren Bent after 2 months of not kicking a ball???
Quote from: Nick Bateman on April 26, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
Why does Magath not play/risk a star striker in Mitroglou, yet risks/plays Diarra who is clearly unfit, and even throws on Darren Bent after 2 months of not kicking a ball???
Because your most expensive player, must look like he has recovered from his knee injury, so as to be called in the Mundial, hoping in the meantime to recover and be sold in a fair price after Brazil...
It is entirely possible that Mitroglou reinjured himself in training. I don't blame him at all. Any player worth his salt wants to be on the pitch and always believes that he is good to go. Its clear to me that the Fulham medical team gave the go ahead. Maybe management made the final decision but in the end any blame has to fall on Fulham. They could have said no thanks but didn't. Blaming Mitroglou and disparaging his abilities is groundless and pointless. If the man comes good, we'll all sing his name. If not we can argue who was worse, Litman or Mitroglou. It'll give us something to do this off season.
I know from inside knowledge that he did not injure himself - he's just useless
Quote from: Baszab on April 26, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
I know from inside knowledge that he did not injure himself - he's just useless
That's a pretty damning anonymous accusation about a player who has scored at the high UCL and high-pressure international level.
I have it from inside knowledge that I've got a fresh pack of ale and am leaving these negative shores to get my mojo back after LuvBite missed that last header.
Denver Fulham, never be logical on these threads. Take that as inside knowledge. :Get Coat gif:
Yep - We cannot take free kicks. We cannot take corners. We cannot defend corners or free kicks.
Our 12 million pound joke wouldn't change that anyway.
