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Title: Al Fayed
Post by: PeterFFC on May 06, 2014, 05:59:53 PM
Sorry if there is already a post about this, if so please delete it.
Just heard on the radio that Al Fayed said Magath is the wrong man for the job.
He also said he'd buy us back for 1/2 the price, and that he warned the club about taking away the lucky Michael Jackson statue.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on May 06, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
That MJ statue was shocking. Nothing lucky about it.
Of course he'd buy us back for 1/2 the price. He's a businessman and that is business sense.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: EJL on May 06, 2014, 06:07:43 PM
He's always been a bit mad, eh?
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: JDH101 on May 06, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on May 06, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: JDH101 on May 06, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
I'd have him back in a heartbeat.

I'm grateful for what he did for the club prior to the last three seasons, but his hands are no longer clean. He's played his role in our demise (where PL sustainability is concerned). He made his choice to leave the club and us. It's done and dusted. I know he cares for the club on some level, but what good does he think he's doing it by second guessing things now that relegation has occurred? Poor form.

....and that damn statue had about as much luck in it as did the ant I accidently stepped on going to my car this morning.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: General on May 06, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Fayed believes Fulham's demise can be put down to the "crazy" removal of the statue of singer Michael Jackson from Craven Cottage.

Manager Felix Magath laid the blame for relegation at the feet of Fulham's players for a lack of fighting spirit.

Cottagers fans expressed theories ranging from a lurch through three different bosses to the unwillingness of new owner Shahid Khan to splash the cash.

But Khan's flamboyant predecessor Al Fayed is convinced he knows the real reason why Fulham's 14-year stay in the Barclays Premier League came to an end last Saturday.

Al Fayed believes the Cottagers would still be in the top flight if Khan had not had the 7ft 6ins sculpture of Michael Jackson removed from outside Craven Cottage last November.

Al Fayed was speaking as he formally presented the statue of the late singer to the National Football Museum in Manchester, where it will stand proudly on a first-floor mezzanine.

He said: "This statue was a charm and we removed the luck from the club and now we have to pay the price.

"When (Khan) asked me to move it I said, 'you must be crazy'. This is such a fantastic statue which the fans are crying out for.

"But now he has paid the price because the club has been relegated. He called me because he told me he wanted Michael to return. I told him, no way."

The much-mocked statue was commissioned by Al Fayed and installed at the back of the Hammersmith Stand in 2011.

Al Fayed was a friend of Jackson and the singer even paid a visit to Craven Cottage when he attended a match between Fulham and Wigan in 1999.

But following Al Fayed's decision to sell the club to Indian tycoon Khan, he was told it was surplus to requirements and would have to be removed.

Speaking about its presentation to the National Football Museum, Al Fayed added: "This is a great place visited by thousands of people and I am very proud to present them with one of the greatest artists and singers in the world.

"Michael is a fantastic example for everyone. He came from nowhere and showed fantastic determination to be a superstar and I am very glad that he is now in this great institution for people to enjoy."
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: General on May 06, 2014, 06:52:23 PM
Cam we put the whole thing into perspective.. he was joking around when he said it... papers never put context to things.
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Post by: Berserker on May 06, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
I thought ths statue was designed to go at Harrods and the MAF sold the shop
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: YankeeJim on May 06, 2014, 06:57:59 PM
Sorry if this is sacrilege but to me, he is no less a mercenary than Dempsey, Dembele, Saha or Hughes. Yes, he did good for Fulham but in the end who profited from that good? He is no different than the rest; only the latest.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on May 06, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: General on May 06, 2014, 06:52:23 PM
Cam we put the whole thing into perspective.. he was joking around when he said it... papers never put context to things.

Well, perhaps now is not the best time to joke about such things either.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: mullers on May 06, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
Fayed has his role in our fall, just as he gave us a lot of fun.   

I hoped I wouldn't experience another relegation, but even with this last few days I wouldn't swap what we've been through. Ok, apart from a Europa win. And an F.A. Cup semi final win. And a Youth Cup win. Nothing else. Apart from no relegation.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: HatterDon on May 06, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: General on May 06, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Fayed believes Fulham's demise can be put down to the "crazy" removal of the statue of singer Michael Jackson from Craven Cottage.

Manager Felix Magath laid the blame for relegation at the feet of Fulham's players for a lack of fighting spirit.

Cottagers fans expressed theories ranging from a lurch through three different bosses to the unwillingness of new owner Shahid Khan to splash the cash.

But Khan's flamboyant predecessor Al Fayed is convinced he knows the real reason why Fulham's 14-year stay in the Barclays Premier League came to an end last Saturday.

Al Fayed believes the Cottagers would still be in the top flight if Khan had not had the 7ft 6ins sculpture of Michael Jackson removed from outside Craven Cottage last November.

Al Fayed was speaking as he formally presented the statue of the late singer to the National Football Museum in Manchester, where it will stand proudly on a first-floor mezzanine.

He said: "This statue was a charm and we removed the luck from the club and now we have to pay the price.

"When (Khan) asked me to move it I said, 'you must be crazy'. This is such a fantastic statue which the fans are crying out for.

"But now he has paid the price because the club has been relegated. He called me because he told me he wanted Michael to return. I told him, no way."

The much-mocked statue was commissioned by Al Fayed and installed at the back of the Hammersmith Stand in 2011.

Al Fayed was a friend of Jackson and the singer even paid a visit to Craven Cottage when he attended a match between Fulham and Wigan in 1999.

But following Al Fayed's decision to sell the club to Indian tycoon Khan, he was told it was surplus to requirements and would have to be removed.

Speaking about its presentation to the National Football Museum, Al Fayed added: "This is a great place visited by thousands of people and I am very proud to present them with one of the greatest artists and singers in the world.

"Michael is a fantastic example for everyone. He came from nowhere and showed fantastic determination to be a superstar and I am very glad that he is now in this great institution for people to enjoy."


This sounds like an audio version of the DAILY MASH
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on May 06, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Of course MAF did give us Keegan, Tigana & Woy (2 of them going on to manage England)

Rather better & more successful for us than his last choice, the "chosen one" Jol & Khan's subsequent appointments Rene & Magath

So not all bad on MAF's part eh?

 
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Jimpav on May 06, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
Is Khan Indian or Pakistani? I'm sure he was from Pakistan- pretty grave error by the reporter if he's wrong.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: JBH on May 06, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
Thanks Mo but after the comments today he has obviously lost the plot!!
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: alexbishop on May 06, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
I thought Pakistan yes.

The MJ statute came after our Europa final yes? So actually it coincided with our downfall I believe...

I do love Al Fayed though. He must be sad we have been relegated surely?
Title: Mo wants Fulham and MJ statue back and says Felix is the wrong man for the club
Post by: epsomraver on May 06, 2014, 09:31:02 PM
On the BBC Mo has said if Khan offers him the club back at half price he will buy it back, he also says the MJ statue should have stayed as it was a lucky charm, Good old BBC with unerring accuracy speak of the statue that stood OUTSIDE our Craven cottage home

Felix Magath wrong man for Fulham - Mohamed Al Fayed

Felix Magath is not the right man to get relegated Fulham promoted from the Championship, according to former owner Mohamed Al Fayed.
The Cottagers were relegated after 13 years in the Premier League with Saturday's 4-1 defeat at Stoke .
Magath wants to stay on but Al Fayed does not believe the German can help the Cottagers bounce back.
Mohamed Al Fayed
Al Fayed had the Michael Jackson statue installed at Fulham in 2011.
"You need a manager who will deliver and I don't think this guy has got the charm or the personality," he said.
Al Fayed, who sold Fulham to Shahid Khan in July last year, added: "Players need someone very close. You saw me with the players in the changing room and when they're eating lunch, it was a very close relationship for the players to feel they want to sacrifice, play hard and want to deliver.
"They miss that now and I hope [Khan] wakes up. I tried to help him and advise him and put him on the right way.
"If he's lost hope and he offers it to me half price, fine I'm going to buy it back."
Al Fayed believes that Khan's decision to remove the "lucky" statue of Michael Jackson from Craven Cottage has backfired.
The 85-year-old has now donated the statue to the National Football Museum in Manchester.
He added: "When the new owner decided to move it I said 'Fine, it is a lucky thing, you will regret it later'.
Continue reading the main story
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During the summer months there most certainly will be many changes within the club
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Fulham manager Felix Magath
"Now the new owner will regret it because I warned him. I said 'You will pay with blood for that' because it was something loved by people.
"It was a big mistake but he paid for it now. He's been relegated and if he wakes up he'll ask for Michael Jackson again and I'll say 'No way'."
Magath has apologised for the defeat at the Britannia Stadium that sealed the club's relegation from the Premier League.
Play media

Magath apologises for Fulham relegation
The former Bayern Munich boss, 60, joined Fulham in February, but picked up just three wins in 11 league games.
In an open letter to fans,  Magath also vowed to stay on as manager and build a team able to return to the top flight.
"We as a team, and I include myself and management, would like to apologise for our bad performance," the German wrote.
"The reality is that we have been relegated, but my commitment and desire to Fulham remains.
"It certainly was not what you as fans were expecting and should rightfully demand of us, but we were unable to perform on the day, resulting in our downfall.
"During the summer months there most certainly will be many changes within the club. We obviously need to improve and redefine our playing staff. We have in our academy team, talented, young and hungry players."
Fulham's final game in the Premier League this season is a dead rubber against Crystal Palace at Craven Cottage on Sunday.
Title: Re: Mo wants Fulham and MJ statue back and says Felix is the wrong man for the club
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on May 06, 2014, 09:57:08 PM
With all due respect to our former owner, if you wanted things done the way you think they should be done, then you shouldn't have sold the club.  I also notice that he's taking no responsibility for the state the club and roster was in when he sold it.

And, who on Earth knows all these people who were so in love with that silly statue? I don't recall seeing anyone there to protest it's removal.

In poor taste stating these things, though he has every right to do so.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: HatterDon on May 06, 2014, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: Jimpav on May 06, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
Is Khan Indian or Pakistani? I'm sure he was from Pakistan- pretty grave error by the reporter if he's wrong.

Pakistani, but British sports reporters don't have to worry about getting their facts right.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: PocketSwan on May 06, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 06, 2014, 06:57:59 PM
Sorry if this is sacrilege but to me, he is no less a mercenary than Dempsey, Dembele, Saha or Hughes. Yes, he did good for Fulham but in the end who profited from that good? He is no different than the rest; only the latest.

That does sound pretty ungrateful to be honest. Didn't you almost go out of business before Al Fayed took over- Within 4 years you were playing in the Premier League, and you have enjoyed a damn good run up there too. Mercenary??? To anyone unhappy at him selling up and making money I'd respond to that by saying the man is 85 years old! How long is he supposed to be chairman for? Better he moves on now than have him drop down dead at the helm... and fair play to the bloke, he got paid and left you in the hands of a man worth around £2.2billion- Don't hate. Football fans have a short memory.
Title: Re: Mo wants Fulham and MJ statue back and says Felix is the wrong man for the club
Post by: Admin on May 06, 2014, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on May 06, 2014, 09:57:08 PM
With all due respect to our former owner, if you wanted things done the way you think they should be done, then you shouldn't have sold the club.  I also notice that he's taking no responsibility for the state the club and roster was in when he sold it.

And, who on Earth knows all these people who were so in love with that silly statue? I don't recall seeing anyone there to protest it's removal.

In poor taste stating these things, though he has every right to do so.

Mo isn't stable enough upstairs to buy the club back, even if he wanted to. His Son wasn't interested, so who the hell would run it for a start? All this is just a publicity speech, one that was made to lay the blame of relegation at the feet of Michael Jackson and Kahn, when really Mo was the main cause. 
Title: Re: Mo wants Fulham and MJ statue back and says Felix is the wrong man for the club
Post by: epsomraver on May 06, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
The MJ statue on the pitch would have been more lively than some of our team this season :005:
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Post by: Berserker on May 06, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
Very good epsom
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on May 06, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 06, 2014, 06:57:59 PM
Sorry if this is sacrilege but to me, he is no less a mercenary than Dempsey, Dembele, Saha or Hughes. Yes, he did good for Fulham but in the end who profited from that good? He is no different than the rest; only the latest.

Please explain how Al-Fayed profited? As far as we know the best he can have done is got his money back and I doubt that. Then there is the interest he lost by investing in a football club rather than putting his money in a bank let alone the profit he would have made by invested in a `proper' business over that period.

Similarly with Dembele. In what way has he profited more than by doing his job? The buy-out clause? That seems good and fair business for both parties: he had to show that he was good enough to attract a buy-out bid and Fulham got a fair price, almost certainly more than they would have done without it as clubs would have waited until Dembele's contract ran down.

Very bitter comments.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on May 06, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
We should stop singing about him

and as for: He would  would buy Fulham back for half the amount he got for it ............................

There is nothing to say really

Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: WayneKerrins on May 06, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
These comments aren't bitter at all.

Fayed was the best thing that every happened to this club, yes.

Was he a benefactor or altruistic? No.

Was this about him (an absolute narcissist)? Absolutely.

Did he put adding 1 per cent to his wealth in his late 80s (the money from the player sales he squeezed out pre sale to Khan) over the security of the club? Yes

Is this inconsistent with claiming to love the club? In my book a resounding yes!

As a fella said on the radio the other day if he left that 20-30m in the squad he could have safeguarded the legacy he created but in the end the legacy wasn't granted: it was loaned.

If a fan is too myopic or dense to not see most of the above nor appreciate that you can say Fayed was the both the best thing that ever happened to this club but also one of the main reasons we are now down and most of what was built in his reign at risk then maybe something is limiting you that won't be cured by internet debate.

And Apprentice to the Maestro Ive looked over a few of the pre season threads and also a few Jol in or out posts. Id say you're pretty trenchant for someone who has called most of the big things plain wrong over the last season or so. Just my observation, but a sincere one.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on May 06, 2014, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: WayneKerrins on May 06, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
These comments aren't bitter at all.

Fayed was the best thing that every happened to this club, yes.

Was he a benefactor or altruistic? No.

Was this about him (an absolute narcissist)? Absolutely.

Did he put adding 1 per cent to his wealth in his late 80s (the money from the player sales he squeezed out pre sale to Khan) over the security of the club? Yes

Is this inconsistent with claiming to love the club? In my book a resounding yes!

As a fella said on the radio the other day if he left that 20-30m in the squad he could have safeguarded the legacy he created but in the end the legacy wasn't granted: it was loaned.

If a fan is too myopic or dense to not see most of the above nor appreciate that you can say Fayed was the both the best thing that ever happened to this club but also one of the main reasons we are now down and most of what was built in his reign at risk then maybe something is limiting you that won't be cured by internet debate.

And Apprentice to the Maestro Ive looked over a few of the pre season threads and also a few Jol in or out posts. Id say you're pretty trenchant for someone who has called most of the big things plain wrong over the last season or so. Just my observation, but a sincere one.

The word I questioned was "mercenary".

You haven't addressed the points I made.

As apparently such a keen observer of my posts you would have noticed that I have been consistently saying that the key missed opportunity in our downfall was the lack of investment after the Europa League final. All the rest since has only added to the slide.

But, then again, I am realistic and don't expect even a billionaire to squander money on a football team.

Don't bother wasting your abuse on me. I have to have confidence in the truth of the points and respect for the quality of the argument to be affected by such criticism.

And by the way, how much of your wealth are you going to donate to your business when you retire to safeguard your legacy?
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Full Metal Ham on May 07, 2014, 09:49:09 AM
Mo, i sincerely believe the statue brought us luck and prosperity, please please let us have it in the locker room so the players can lick it before every game and take us back to the top flight. Better yet we could sign it as a central defender and probably stop a gap in that extraordinarily leaky back line of ours. Better yet we could use it as a projectile missile and decapitate Martin Jol with it. OH MO, you perilously deranged man, I love you please come back and be manager; be mascot, maybe we could stuff you and put you on a plinth for in fact the real reason that we got relegated is because YOU left, not play-dough MJ, YOU. Stop all this Egyptian 'statue curse' hoodoo nonsense, this isn't tutankamuns coffin, its a silly depiction of a plasticine peado. Come back to us Mo so we can embalm you and put you on display and lure back lady luck to the cottage. She is sorely missed.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Reznor on May 07, 2014, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.

I agree.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: The Equalizer on May 07, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: Jimpav on May 06, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
Is Khan Indian or Pakistani? I'm sure he was from Pakistan- pretty grave error by the reporter if he's wrong.

Correct, he is from Pakistan. What really gets me is why they need to bother mentioning race in this at all? Surely he's just 'Fulham's owner, Shahid Khan', not 'Fulham's owner, the Pakistani Shahid Khan'?
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on May 07, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Reznor on May 07, 2014, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.

I agree.

Me too!
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Burt on May 07, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
Oh it was the statue's fault!

Thank heavens for that.

I was having crazy notions that it was down to one or a combination of the following:

1. All the manager chops and changes we have seen and the resulting instablility.

2. Our inability to successfully manage a squad overhaul.

3. Walking on a crack between pavements under the ladder outside my house to escape a black cat who had just broken a mirror.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: WayneKerrins on May 07, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on May 06, 2014, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: WayneKerrins on May 06, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
These comments aren't bitter at all.

Fayed was the best thing that every happened to this club, yes.

Was he a benefactor or altruistic? No.

Was this about him (an absolute narcissist)? Absolutely.

Did he put adding 1 per cent to his wealth in his late 80s (the money from the player sales he squeezed out pre sale to Khan) over the security of the club? Yes

Is this inconsistent with claiming to love the club? In my book a resounding yes!

As a fella said on the radio the other day if he left that 20-30m in the squad he could have safeguarded the legacy he created but in the end the legacy wasn't granted: it was loaned.

If a fan is too myopic or dense to not see most of the above nor appreciate that you can say Fayed was the both the best thing that ever happened to this club but also one of the main reasons we are now down and most of what was built in his reign at risk then maybe something is limiting you that won't be cured by internet debate.

And Apprentice to the Maestro Ive looked over a few of the pre season threads and also a few Jol in or out posts. Id say you're pretty trenchant for someone who has called most of the big things plain wrong over the last season or so. Just my observation, but a sincere one.

The word I questioned was "mercenary".

You haven't addressed the points I made.

As apparently such a keen observer of my posts you would have noticed that I have been consistently saying that the key missed opportunity in our downfall was the lack of investment after the Europa League final. All the rest since has only added to the slide.

But, then again, I am realistic and don't expect even a billionaire to squander money on a football team.

Don't bother wasting your abuse on me. I have to have confidence in the truth of the points and respect for the quality of the argument to be affected by such criticism.

And by the way, how much of your wealth are you going to donate to your business when you retire to safeguard your legacy?

if you consider my post abuse then so be it: it wasn't and I struggle with how anyone could categorise it as such.

I'm not accusing Fayed of being a mercenary or a profiteer: he's a self interested narcissist whose needs/intentions happened to be symbiotic with Fulhams for more than a a decade.
However pointing out the lack of congruence between claiming to leave a club and then squeezing out circa1% of your already accumulated net worth to add to it whilst running down the squad and putting our premiership future at risk is to me intellectually sound.
Re your view that it's his money it's his millions and if he chooses to put getting that extra % back over the legacy he had built and the clubs future then that is your view and I can't disabuse you of it. To me it's a curious position for any fulham fan and I can say with the utmost sincerity I would have no issue if I were in his shoes with 'gifting' that 1% to something I love.
I like plenty on here spend at least that amount of my net income annually on supporting the club and over 10% of my accumulated wealth is willed to my university football club and the 2 town rugby and cricket teams I played for and still follow.
Maybe I'm mad but I suspect there's plenty of fulham fans who would do the same.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: EJL on May 07, 2014, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on May 06, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: General on May 06, 2014, 06:52:23 PM
Cam we put the whole thing into perspective.. he was joking around when he said it... papers never put context to things.

Well, perhaps now is not the best time to joke about such things either.
Especially when his penny-pinching shortly before selling up is as much to do with our current situation as anything else.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: HatterDon on May 07, 2014, 02:09:18 PM
ah, he's a goofy old fart having some fun. I can relate to that -- and so can a few others on here I could name.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Northern Cottager on May 07, 2014, 03:33:14 PM
The Jackson statue has gone to the football museum...no chance of it coming back here then!

http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/about-us/latest-news/2014/05/jackson-statue-donated-to-the-national-football-museum-by-al-fayed/ (http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/about-us/latest-news/2014/05/jackson-statue-donated-to-the-national-football-museum-by-al-fayed/)
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
criticising someone must be the easiest thing to do in the world. i wish mo would come back. everybody knows if it wasnt for him we would have never seen the highs.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: WayneKerrins on May 08, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
criticising someone must be the easiest thing to do in the world. i wish mo would come back. everybody knows if it wasnt for him we would have never seen the highs.

What to walk across the pitch and squeeze money out of the club while running down the squad?

He was the best thing that very happened to the club but he didn't do it for FFC or us he did it for himself. We had a great ride and are clearly much better off than before the ride started.

However you have to be of limited intelligence not to see how his actions of the last 2 years put us at real risk of relegation and all because he wanted to add another 20-30m to his c2billion fortune.

Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Twig on May 08, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
Quote from: Jimpav on May 06, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
Is Khan Indian or Pakistani? I'm sure he was from Pakistan- pretty grave error by the reporter if he's wrong.

He is from Pakistani heritage not Indian. Definitely a serious error.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: alfie on May 08, 2014, 11:09:22 AM
Seems a bit of a cheek to say that Magath is not the right man for the job, when he thought that Jol was for so long.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: bucksfulham on May 08, 2014, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.
Don't blame Khan. Blame the management team.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: The Rock on May 08, 2014, 11:58:55 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on May 08, 2014, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.
Don't blame Khan. Blame the management team.

Starts at the top, all are to blame.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: cookieg on May 08, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on May 07, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Reznor on May 07, 2014, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on May 07, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Of course Mo won't be back. BUT the club is now probably only worth half what Khan paid for it as we are now a championship club, so Mo is offering the going rate.

Yes Mo did stop 'investing' money in the team in his last couple of years. BUT Khan should have done proper due diligence when he bought. Had he done so he would have seen the need to replace half the team. It was not too late then. But he did nothing other than bring in more deadwood on the cheap. By the time Khan finally saw what everyone could see long before, he started panic buying in January.

I place the blame for our current situation firmly on Khan's shoulders.

I agree.

Me too!


What I find quite extraordinary about this is, is that Khan is clearly an intelligent successful businessman who has made loads of money.

When he was considering buying Fulham who did he get advice from? As has been mentioned what due diligence was carried out - surely this would have revealed the state of the playing squad and if his advice had been of a footballing nature this would have highlighted the need to invest and invest heavily to ensure survival.

Maybe he bought the club on a purely business/investment basis and has plans for us - nice casino by the Thames perhaps or some luxury apartments on the ground and we move somewhere else??

Who knows what was/is going on, we can only wait and see.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: WayneKerrins on May 08, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
criticising someone must be the easiest thing to do in the world. i wish mo would come back. everybody knows if it wasnt for him we would have never seen the highs.

What to walk across the pitch and squeeze money out of the club while running down the squad?

He was the best thing that very happened to the club but he didn't do it for FFC or us he did it for himself. We had a great ride and are clearly much better off than before the ride started.

However you have to be of limited intelligence not to see how his actions of the last 2 years put us at real risk of relegation and all because he wanted to add another 20-30m to his c2billion fortune.



who has unlimited intelligence?
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: YankeeJim on May 08, 2014, 04:56:22 PM
To those who disagreed with my comments about Mo, I stand by them. The main reasons we are in the Championship is the lack of investment and the hiring of Jol. Khan can hardly be blamed for that. Perhaps he should have gotten better advice before buying the club . To be fair, on paper we were not that bad and the lack of debt had to be attractive. If Rene or Felix had started the season as manager we would have stayed up and one can wonder if keeping Jol was a financial consideration. As someone else said, there is plenty of blame to go around. Mo wanted to rid himself of the club and he did. Khan wanted a relatively inexpensive way to get into the Prem and he got his wish for one season. He should and will be judged by what happens next season.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: HatterDon on May 08, 2014, 08:37:01 PM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: WayneKerrins on May 08, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
criticising someone must be the easiest thing to do in the world. i wish mo would come back. everybody knows if it wasnt for him we would have never seen the highs.

What to walk across the pitch and squeeze money out of the club while running down the squad?

He was the best thing that very happened to the club but he didn't do it for FFC or us he did it for himself. We had a great ride and are clearly much better off than before the ride started.

However you have to be of limited intelligence not to see how his actions of the last 2 years put us at real risk of relegation and all because he wanted to add another 20-30m to his c2billion fortune.



who has unlimited intelligence?

NSA, GCHQ
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: hovewhite on May 08, 2014, 09:19:16 PM
he muddied his copy book the last 2 years but still a fulham legend and savior.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: WayneKerrins on May 09, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: WayneKerrins on May 08, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on May 08, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
criticising someone must be the easiest thing to do in the world. i wish mo would come back. everybody knows if it wasnt for him we would have never seen the highs.

What to walk across the pitch and squeeze money out of the club while running down the squad?

He was the best thing that very happened to the club but he didn't do it for FFC or us he did it for himself. We had a great ride and are clearly much better off than before the ride started.

However you have to be of limited intelligence not to see how his actions of the last 2 years put us at real risk of relegation and all because he wanted to add another 20-30m to his c2billion fortune.



who has unlimited intelligence?

Limited, adjective : small in range or scope.
Title: Re: Al Fayed
Post by: Forever Fulham on May 09, 2014, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 08, 2014, 04:56:22 PM
To those who disagreed with my comments about Mo, I stand by them. The main reasons we are in the Championship is the lack of investment and the hiring of Jol. Khan can hardly be blamed for that. Perhaps he should have gotten better advice before buying the club . To be fair, on paper we were not that bad and the lack of debt had to be attractive. If Rene or Felix had started the season as manager we would have stayed up and one can wonder if keeping Jol was a financial consideration. As someone else said, there is plenty of blame to go around. Mo wanted to rid himself of the club and he did. Khan wanted a relatively inexpensive way to get into the Prem and he got his wish for one season. He should and will be judged by what happens next season.
:plus one:
Title: Re:
Post by: MJG on May 09, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
Buying Villa apparently