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Title: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: White Noise on June 08, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
I am not sure I would. The odds are not great -


http://www.online-betting-guide.co.uk/news/18225883/England+v+USA+World+Cup+Betting+Odds+Make+England+Hot+Favourites+To+Start+World+Cup+2010+With+Three+Points.html (http://www.online-betting-guide.co.uk/news/18225883/England+v+USA+World+Cup+Betting+Odds+Make+England+Hot+Favourites+To+Start+World+Cup+2010+With+Three+Points.html)


but I have a strong feeling that the colonials will be celebrating.  :019:
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Lighthouse on June 08, 2010, 05:01:54 PM
Both defences are to use managerial football speak ' a bit iffy' If England midfield do not turn the screw and provide chances then yes I can see USA doing the ungentlemanly thing.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 05:07:08 PM
Would I be shocked? No.
Would I be surprised? Yes.
If I were to go for a punt and try to make a bob, I reckon a draw is a likely result. 1-1.

As a side, has anyone come across a bet on Wayne Rooney getting sent off at least once in the WC?
Title: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: GoldCoastWhite on June 08, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 05:07:08 PM
Would I be shocked? No.
Would I be surprised? Yes.
If I were to go for a punt and try to make a bob, I reckon a draw is a likely result. 1-1.

As a side, has anyone come across a bet on Wayne Rooney getting sent off at least once in the WC?

I reckon your 1-1 prediction is a distinct possibility Finn, and as for Shrek, I think you'd get better odds on his not getting sent off !
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: AmericanJames on June 08, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
there is a good chance someone will be sent off
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/67/world-cup/2010/06/06/1961413/carlos-simon-to-referee-england-vs-usa-in-world-cup (http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/67/world-cup/2010/06/06/1961413/carlos-simon-to-referee-england-vs-usa-in-world-cup)
apparently the ref is a bit of a muppet
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on June 08, 2010, 06:20:13 PM
Yes - Next question...
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Tom on June 08, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 05:07:08 PM
Would I be shocked? No.
Would I be surprised? Yes.
If I were to go for a punt and try to make a bob, I reckon a draw is a likely result. 1-1.

As a side, has anyone come across a bet on Wayne Rooney getting sent off at least once in the WC?

I agree with finnster. I am looking for a draw, like I predicted before.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: ImperialWhite on June 08, 2010, 06:25:32 PM
Depends which England turn up - if it's the England of qualfiers, then I suspect England might get a fairly convincing win*.

If the England of the friendlies turns up...well we all saw the Mexico game. They could have beaten us.

Think it might well me a high scoring game - the defences are both a bit iffy as you say Lighthouse, and I reckon both sides might just go for it. Think I'm going to stick some money on it being over 3 goals.

*and before anyone says 'aah, but they were playing crap teams then' - we beat Croatia convincingly (albeit with managerial problems), who are currently 4 places higher up in the FIFA rankings.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on June 08, 2010, 06:48:18 PM
first game of the world cup for us,no I wouldn't be that suprised,there is along way to go,a few players will try and not get hurt,I would prefer they got stuck in myself,it is the world cup after all and a win for us would give us a great chance to top the group and thus giving us the easier draw :dft012:
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: FC Silver Fox on June 08, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
Yes, I'd be VERY surprised. This said, we'll start the match stroking the ball around slowly like world champions. We'll get punished by Clint who'll score. We'll try to liven up a bit, screw around in midfield a bit and miss a few opportunities. We'll go in at halftime 1-0 down. Fabio will go bananas and it'll be a different 2nd half. We'll win 2-1.
As for the short odds on an England win. This just reflects the betting by pathetic losers sitting in front of the TV all day, in the underpants eating packets of crisps and supping cheap lager.
i.e. not to be taken too seriously.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: finnster01 on June 08, 2010, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 08, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
...This just reflects the betting by pathetic losers sitting in front of the TV all day, in the underpants eating packets of crisps and supping cheap lager...
Mr Fox,
Did we meet when I was young by any chance?  :dft001:

Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: tingtawng on June 08, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
its said the new 8 panel ball goes all over the place ,its unpredictable in use !then theres  the altitude ,and all the wheezing last game so how can you be sure what will happen :012:
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Crede15 on June 08, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
if we had last summer's Confederation Cup team I would feel good about our chances against England. Our back line's had a lot of injuries since then and has looked shaky and I just think England will take advantage of it, score 2-3 goals and get the win.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Kiwi Fulham Fan on June 08, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Gotta a feeling England will scrape by 2-1 or 3-2
but it is a sporting contest so anything could happen
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: SoCalJoe on June 08, 2010, 08:35:32 PM
Would be pleasantly surprised. 4 years ago the US played the Czechs first and the man mountain Jan Koller set the tone. While he's of a different body type, Crouch is as tall as Koller, and on any set piece he can put the ball in the back of the net.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: ImperialWhite on June 08, 2010, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Kiwi Fulham Fan on June 08, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Gotta a feeling England will scrape by 2-1 or 3-2
but it is a sporting contest so anything could happen

I take it you're a New Zealander? What do you make of the New Zealand team? Do you reckon you can get a 2-3 points on the board?
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: clintclintdeuce on June 08, 2010, 10:02:11 PM
No, I wouldnt be at all to be quite honest. There isnt that much difference in the class of the sides.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: YankeeJim on June 09, 2010, 03:02:09 AM
I've been telling everyone that it'll be a 1 nil US win. That's from my heart . My head tells me 2 nil England. The US is just not as talented & honestly matches up better with Spain than it does you lot. Our back line which played wonderfully in the Confederations Cup is badly banged up & not near match fit. I just pray that it is Rooney that does the damage and not that turd Terry.


Still, an early goal...................
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: PaulUMD on June 09, 2010, 03:40:46 AM
I think we can shock them, but if we give up that first goal early we're doomed. 
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: jarv on June 09, 2010, 04:40:50 AM
I saw oods of 1-2 england and 13 - 2 usa...    brilliant odds for usa, a 2 horse race against a determined and organised team. At 13-2 usa worth more than a bob or two.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: clintclintdeuce on June 09, 2010, 05:23:37 AM
Jarv, I reckon that the late wagering will push the USA odds up towards 9-1 before kickoff, and I reckon they are too good to pass on.
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: JBH on June 09, 2010, 06:49:47 AM
I've had a Score on the USA @ 13/2 may have a punt on Clint to score 1st or last goal about 16 - 1  :beer:

Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on June 09, 2010, 07:05:06 AM
Quote from: clintclintdeuce on June 09, 2010, 05:23:37 AM
Jarv, I reckon that the late wagering will push the USA odds up towards 9-1 before kickoff, and I reckon they are too good to pass on.

Great odds.  I suggest that you put all your overseas travel spending money on it...
Title: Re: Would You Be Surprised If The USA Beat England?
Post by: TheDaddy on June 09, 2010, 07:38:01 AM
I wouldn't be to surprised but with our secret weapon Frank Lardarse ! who scored over 20 goals in the PL be it 9 penaltes and 11 + deflections.How can we lose with the new ball that dips , swerves its going to be the first time ever he's going to hit the ball true and straight. Hang on i did see he's one and only shot against the pewter all stars so perhaps anybody in row z may want to move now  :55: 2-0 England and no nails left for the remainder of the tournament .