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I have no confidence in the man.

not anymore

hugely responsible for the poor advice given to khan throughout the season

How do we know this?

Well, we know this because Khan praised his work in January when Mac brought in Felix.
I would however caution whether this is really al down to Mac, as I have my doubts regarding Khan at this time, and I hope to see him release cash to Felix to replace all we are losing

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I keep being told that nobody knows what our MD is actually responsible for. He doesn't seem to be at fault for anything except taking orders and being praised by our new owner. So for this reason alone I have no confidence at all in him. The decisions being made now still seem to be as poor as they were a few years ago. None of it may be his fault. But then what the hell does he do?

We just don't know who is responsible for anything.

AM could be next go for all we know.

The buck stops at the man at the top. That's Mackintosh.

If you're in his position, there is effectively only one person above you.
So as with all decisions the buck stops with him and he is accountable.

I can't believe they are shedding people because they need to cut wages,
unless Khans 'speech' about spending what is necessary to go back up again
is absolute cack. We will see.

Perhaps who ever, will fly a remote airplane past  his window with a banner reading.
'Clear your desk"

Either way it's human nature to be toadies to the boss to keep a high paid/profile job
if you have no integrity or scruples.

As I've said before, why is whoever is responsible for this mess still in a job?

Perhaps it's because Sahid Kahn and Mark Lamping (his Anheuser-Busch marketing executive/Fulham Board of Director who knows absolutely nothing about football) are the ones who are actually responsible.

Khan had said more than once last season that Ally and the board were being left to run the club.

Quote from: premFlem on June 03, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Khan had said more than once last season that Ally and the board were being left to run the club.

Well the board is just Ali Mac, Mark Lamping, and an accountant. I still don't understand why Mark Lamping has anything to do with Fulham Football Club whatsoever. Maybe it's to introduce the Jacksonville Jaguars tchotchke into the Fulham pro shop.

Whether or not it turns out to be the right decision to let brede go is irrelavent.  Its then principle, ali mac should not allow our club to conduct itself in this way. Its a disgrace and it makes me wonder what this ali mac actually did when al fayed wasnin charge because since hes been mr decision maker I am yet to see one he has made correctly or professionally. Our club isn't as special as we think it is. Not with these mugs running it anyway. Im ashamed

My vote against is more towards the overall nature of the club right now. A complete shambles. Completely disgraceful. Hearing what happened to Brede tonight makes me feel ashamed to support this club.

I understand that Mackintosh is the man that has brought in the correct people to oversee our youth and academy......from what I understand we are more advanced in this area than most, we have invested heavily in this area with coaches, players, networking, support and playing facilities at Motspur Park......I think Mackintosh's biggest mistake was keeping Jol - this is probably were we could of done with a Director of football or similar overseeing Jol's shady dealings

I can understand Khan handing the reins to the board, though surely he would have someone else keeping an eye on it all from the outside, after all, it is supposed to be an investment to make money, rather than a rich mans plaything. Oh, and the bucks stops above Mac, hes just the enabler, not the owner.

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I'm just disgusted with the way the club is being run. The way Rene Meulensteen was inexplicably appointed manager and then sacked now the way Hangeland has been offloaded are just two examples of the ineptitude and basic lack of respect inherent in the club.

This isn't the Fulham I grew up with. I just don't recognise it any more.

Things were sort of good prior to Khan. I question how much control Mackintosh has now. Still got faith in Mackintosh, previously we were patient and rational. This season led to some very rash and stupid decisions, usually ones made by over indulgent chairpersons.

The past year, season, months, and hours shows me no confidence in him...

Zero. He has shown appalling judgment and a disregard for the fans in the lack of communication form the club. The sooner he is shown the door, the better IMO.

Does anyone have some background on Mark Lamping?  Is he Khan's eyes and ears at Fulham?  How often is he seen there? What's his bio?  I don't know anything about him.

No confidence whatsoever. I'm also frankly worried about how much control we're giving Felix.

Mac can go and the sooner the better. Here in the states, if a coach or some political appointee gets a vote of confidence, you can wager his days are numbered.

Mac is the man who gave Dembele a buy out clause, He use to run Man City into near relegation every season before they offloaded him onto us. The man should go to qphahaha and stay there!!

What I can't understand is, if I was him and was obviously aware of all of the comments against him, the treatment of Brede, the treatment of the fans, most importantly the tremendous bad feeling directed at the club of which he is the big cheese (ish)
I'd stand up and make some statements, explain a few things, because I've got balls !!
It's us lot who pay his wages.
However perhaps he's not allowed to or is scared of jeopardizing his fat pay check.

One day someone is going to write a tell-all biography, only then might we learn what has been going on.

A whip round for a bicycle and then he can get on it and peddle to wherever ex-MD peddlers peddle to.

Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 03, 2014, 10:15:31 PM
I understand that Mackintosh is the man that has brought in the correct people to oversee our youth and academy......from what I understand we are more advanced in this area than most, we have invested heavily in this area with coaches, players, networking, support and playing facilities at Motspur Park......I think Mackintosh's biggest mistake was keeping Jol - this is probably were we could of done with a Director of football or similar overseeing Jol's shady dealings

Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 03, 2014, 10:15:31 PM
I understand that Mackintosh is the man that has brought in the correct people to oversee our youth and academy......from what I understand we are more advanced in this area than most, we have invested heavily in this area with coaches, players, networking, support and playing facilities at Motspur Park......I think Mackintosh's biggest mistake was keeping Jol - this is probably were we could of done with a Director of football or similar overseeing Jol's shady dealings

Makes me wonder was curbishley brought in as a quasi /poor mans director of football then scapegoated when it went t's up I suppose we'll never know, and does Shahid even know what a director of football is?...

As I am on the outside looking in, I don't feel qualified to comment on this. How can we possibly know what is going on? On the face of it AM has presided over a disastrous couple of seasons, resulting in our relegation, but given we have no intimate knowledge of who does what, where the power lies, who controls the purse-strings etc. then all we can do is speculate on the basis of ignorance rather than facts and data.

Clearly, not one of you remember Bulstrode or Clay then?

Quote from: blingo on June 04, 2014, 09:00:09 AM
Clearly, not one of you remember Bulstrode or Clay then?

:Haynes The Maestro:

Quote from: blingo on June 04, 2014, 09:00:09 AM
Clearly, not one of you remember Bulstrode or Clay then?

I do and sleepwalking back to the same situation is what we all hope to avoid.

If you're going to run this poll fairly you should have inserted a "don't know" option. How can any of us be absolutely sure about who is wielding power behind the scenes and how many of the key decisions are taken at the Club. We can all see the problems - and we are all right to express our grave concerns - but I'm very weary of apportioning blame to individuals without any certainty about how many of the key decisions have been reached - even at Chief Executive level.

I have no faith at all first he backs jol with cash to buy oap's without questioning it then whilst rene was trying to turn things round he sneaks behind rene's back to bring felix in and now we have released all these players and havent brought anybody.

Quote from: Berserker on June 03, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
How do we know this?

Well, we do know that Khan stated that he was following Jol's and AM's plan that was already in place when he took over form MAF. Who else is left that would have had any input into transfers and team matters and who hasn't already been terminated?

I won't say that AM should be fired, but his performance should definitely come under great scrutiny IMHO.

Quote from: Lighthouse on June 03, 2014, 09:20:49 PM
I keep being told that nobody knows what our MD is actually responsible for. He doesn't seem to be at fault for anything except taking orders and being praised by our new owner. So for this reason alone I have no confidence at all in him. The decisions being made now still seem to be as poor as they were a few years ago. None of it may be his fault. But then what the hell does he do?

After the 8 years i spent at Fulham i came to understand that all decision were made by 1 man, yes there was a board and someone like Mackintosh at the helm, but that person would act on what he was told to do, he would spend the money he was told he could spend or in the last season not spend, so i would guess that Khan has given Mackintosh a program of what he wants, yes we can blame Mackintosh but should we? your comment None of it may be his fault. But then what the hell does he do? well i would guess like everyone that has/does work there they do what they are told to do.

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Gissa job, I could do that.
How much is the pay and do I get my suits cleaned ?

So he does what he is told to do. Even if it makes no sense? He is just a zombie? Sorry but I never just did what I was supposed to do if I didn't think it made any sense. That is clearly the problem. People are like cattle and people not only support that idea but applaud it. Jeez, no wonder we are stuck with the a system that is so floored.

Quote from: alfie on June 04, 2014, 05:28:35 PM

Quote from: Lighthouse on June 03, 2014, 09:20:49 PM
I keep being told that nobody knows what our MD is actually responsible for. He doesn't seem to be at fault for anything except taking orders and being praised by our new owner. So for this reason alone I have no confidence at all in him. The decisions being made now still seem to be as poor as they were a few years ago. None of it may be his fault. But then what the hell does he do?

After the 8 years i spent at Fulham i came to understand that all decision were made by 1 man, yes there was a board and someone like Mackintosh at the helm, but that person would act on what he was told to do, he would spend the money he was told he could spend or in the last season not spend, so i would guess that Khan has given Mackintosh a program of what he wants, yes we can blame Mackintosh but should we? your comment None of it may be his fault. But then what the hell does he do? well i would guess like everyone that has/does work there they do what they are told to do.

Except that Khan, on multiple occasions, stated that his management style was to put people into their jobs, give them the support and resources to do their jobs, get out of the way, and then hold them responsible for their performance.

He also stated the bit about trusting the business plan for the 2013/14 season that was in place before he arrived and that he did so on the advice of those who remained after the handover between owners. He hadn't had time to place his own people.

Outside of that, I can't recall one bit of information coming out about the inner workings of the Khan regime.

Maybe the plan in place was MAF's and Jol and AM just suggested it as the best path until the season ended. But certainly the plan changed by January. We were told (or it was leaked) that Rene was only allowed to choose his two United youths in January. Who would've chosen and paid for the rest?

I will keep the poll going for a little longer as there have been some good discussion. Pretty much a no confidence vote. Can this be sent to the Club?

Do you think the club will give a monkies about a poll with less than 100 votes?

Quote from: blingo on June 04, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Do you think the club will give a monkies about a poll with less than 100 votes?

No but neither they know how to run a football club as the last few seasons prove.  So it is just of interest to the rest of us.

Quote from: grandad on June 04, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
I will keep the poll going for a little longer as there have been some good discussion. Pretty much a no confidence vote. Can this be sent to the Club?

Only if you do the same on their FB page.