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Title: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Here is an England team I picked from the available players who were not selected for the actual squad.  Any constructive views are welcome, otherwise ignore.

Goalkeeper - David Stockdale (Fulham)

Defense - Micah Richards (Man.City), Michael Dawson (Tottenham), Curtis Davis (Hull), Ashley Cole (Chelsea)

Midfield - Aaron Lennon (Tottenham), Scott Parker (Fulham), Steve Sidwell (Stoke), Nathan Dyer (Swansea)

Forwards - Jermaine Defoe (Toronto), Andy Carroll (West Ham).

Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:42:55 PM
I can't imagine this team doing well in international football.....Did we learn nothing from the Sidwell/Parker in CM last season!!!!
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: MiltonBurrows on June 16, 2014, 03:45:29 PM
Almost as depressing as the actual 2006 squad!
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: MiltonBurrows on June 16, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Right back for England is a calamity at the moment. If Richards had played more than 3 games in 2 seasons then he'd probably up be competing for the squad, but the lad seems happy just taken his wages at City. Surprised you chose richards over walker? Sidwell and Parker were the CM partnership for us the large part of last season, and look what happened there, neither are international quality anymore. Have you not included injured players who didnt go? Just wondering why you chose andy carroll over jay rodriguez?
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on June 16, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Right back for England is a calamity at the moment. If Richards had played more than 3 games in 2 seasons then he'd probably up be competing for the squad, but the lad seems happy just taken his wages at City. Surprised you chose richards over walker? Sidwell and Parker were the CM partnership for us the large part of last season, and look what happened there, neither are international quality anymore. Have you not included injured players who didnt go? Just wondering why you chose andy carroll over jay rodriguez?

I didn't include the ones Hodgson couldn't select either like Walker, Townsend, Terry and Rodriguez because of injury/unavailability, otherwise I would have.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FPT on June 16, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
Goalkeepers: David Stockdale, John Ruddy, Jack Butland, Jonathan Bond, Alex McCarthy

Defenders: John Stones, Jon Flanagan, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Micah Richards, Kyle Walker, Steven Caulker, Kieran Gibbs

Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Scott Parker, Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young, Andros Townsend, Wilfried Zaha, Theo Walcott, Jay Rodriguez.

Strikers: Andy Carroll, Jermain Defoe.




Young, but unrealistic:

Liam Moore, Luke Garbutt, Nat Chalobah, Josh McEachran, James Ward-Prowse, Danny Ings, Nathan Redmond, Ravel Morrison, Andre Wisdom, Will Hughes, Tom Carroll, Jonjo Shelvey, Nick Powell, Patrick Bamford, Cauley Woodrow, Diego Poyet.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: MiltonBurrows on June 16, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on June 16, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Right back for England is a calamity at the moment. If Richards had played more than 3 games in 2 seasons then he'd probably up be competing for the squad, but the lad seems happy just taken his wages at City. Surprised you chose richards over walker? Sidwell and Parker were the CM partnership for us the large part of last season, and look what happened there, neither are international quality anymore. Have you not included injured players who didnt go? Just wondering why you chose andy carroll over jay rodriguez?

I didn't include the ones Hodgson couldn't select either like Walker, Townsend, Terry and Rodriguez because of injury/unavailability, otherwise I would have.

Fair enough. Delph had a great season at Villa so he would be in there for me over parker. I'd have picked Huddlestone over sidwell as well, i was surprised he didn't get a mention during the build up seeing as Hull would of probably gone down if it wasn't for him.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: epsomraver on June 16, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Donkey Dawson for England 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif Once I saw that I switched reading the rest of the garbage
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
Goalkeepers: David Stockdale, John Ruddy, Jack Butland, Jonathan Bond, Alex McCarthy

Defenders: John Stones, Jon Flanagan, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Micah Richards, Kyle Walker, Steven Caulker, Kieran Gibbs

Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Scott Parker, Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young, Andros Townsend, Wilfried Zaha, Theo Walcott, Jay Rodriguez.

Strikers: Andy Carroll, Jermain Defoe.




Young, but unrealistic:

Liam Moore, Luke Garbutt, Nat Chalobah, Josh McEachran, James Ward-Prowse, Danny Ings, Nathan Redmond, Ravel Morrison, Andre Wisdom, Will Hughes, Tom Carroll, Jonjo Shelvey, Nick Powell, Patrick Bamford, Cauley Woodrow, Diego Poyet.

Some very interesting ones you picked FPT.  I like Jonjo Shelvey, Danny Ings, Hughes and Woodrow is looking good.  And yes MiltonBurrows, Fabian Delph was terrific against Chelsea.  You two have given me reason to reconsider, and you know your football!!
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FPT on June 16, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
Goalkeepers: David Stockdale, John Ruddy, Jack Butland, Jonathan Bond, Alex McCarthy

Defenders: John Stones, Jon Flanagan, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Micah Richards, Kyle Walker, Steven Caulker, Kieran Gibbs

Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Scott Parker, Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young, Andros Townsend, Wilfried Zaha, Theo Walcott, Jay Rodriguez.

Strikers: Andy Carroll, Jermain Defoe.




Young, but unrealistic:

Liam Moore, Luke Garbutt, Nat Chalobah, Josh McEachran, James Ward-Prowse, Danny Ings, Nathan Redmond, Ravel Morrison, Andre Wisdom, Will Hughes, Tom Carroll, Jonjo Shelvey, Nick Powell, Patrick Bamford, Cauley Woodrow, Diego Poyet.

Some very interesting ones you picked FPT.  I like Jonjo Shelvey, Danny Ings, Hughes and Woodrow is looking good.  And yes MiltonBurrows, Fabian Delph was terrific against Chelsea.  You two have given me reason to reconsider, and you know your football!!

I didn't pick anyone! Just a list of English players not at the World Cup - Fabian Delph is a good addition though. Could add Tom Huddlestone, Jake Livermore, Curtis Davies and Mark Noble whilst I'm here.

Out of those, I'd go for:

Stockdale
Stones Richards Caulker Gibbs
Carrick Shelvey
Walcott Zaha Rodriguez
Carroll

Bench: Ruddy, Cole, Walker, Huddlestone, Delph, Townsend, Ings
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: jmh on June 16, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:42:55 PM
I can't imagine this team doing well in international football.....Did we learn nothing from the Sidwell/Parker in CM last season!!!!
Agreed.  This team would get crushed in the World Cup.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: SimpleTactics on June 16, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
That is one of the worst teams I think I have seen. Would get destroyed.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 05:48:53 PM
I was picking from the players available NOT SELECTED by Roy Hodgson.  I still think Sidwell is the best midfielder.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: bobby01 on June 16, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
Nick gets bored, let's go to FoF, they are so easy to wind up. Job done.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.
:plus one: Well said, Alfie!

Carroll cost the 'puds £35m, Lambert £4m.  I rest my case.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.

I thought better of you. No coming back from a comment like that.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Pluto on June 17, 2014, 09:42:52 AM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Here is an England team I picked from the available players who were not selected for the actual squad.  Any constructive views are welcome, otherwise ignore.

Goalkeeper - David Stockdale (Fulham)

Defense - Micah Richards (Man.City), Michael Dawson (Tottenham), Curtis Davis (Hull), Ashley Cole (Chelsea)

Midfield - Aaron Lennon (Tottenham), Scott Parker (Fulham), Steve Sidwell (Stoke), Nathan Dyer (Swansea)

Forwards - Jermaine Defoe (Toronto), Andy Carroll (West Ham).



Crikey a Sidwell/Parker central midfield? After this season?! No thanks.

I'd go:

Ruddy
Walker
Caulker
Davies
Cole
Townsend
Carrick
Barry (great season by the way)
Huddlestone
Zaha
Carroll

I feel that team has plenty of pace and would be pretty direct, so would do ok. Didn't include Walcott and Rodriguez as they wouldve been too injured to play any part in the tournament, even if it started now.

Rest of my 30 man squad:
Stockdale
Green

Flanagan
Stones
Gibbs
Lescott
Richards

Cleverley
Young
Delph
Noble
Osman
Shelvey
Lennon
Dyer
Adam Johnson

Defoe
Crouch (decent season)
Ings
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.
:plus one: Well said, Alfie!

Carroll cost the 'puds £35m, Lambert £4m.  I rest my case.


Sorry, you made a case?
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: westcliff white on June 17, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.
:plus one: Well said, Alfie!

Carroll cost the 'puds £35m, Lambert £4m.  I rest my case.


That is like saying marlet was better than saha, one cost 13 million the other 5 million, so do not think that case always adds up
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: alfie on June 17, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.


Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.

I thought better of you. No coming back from a comment like that.

to be honest i could not care less what you think of me, i am just stating like you, me and everyone else the guy is entitled to his opinion, and where am i coming back from?, i have not been anywhere yet.

Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: SimpleTactics on June 17, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.

Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.
:plus one: Well said, Alfie!

Carroll cost the 'puds £35m, Lambert £4m.  I rest my case.


So now you are making the assumption that quality is proportional to price?
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 17, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Carroll was Hodgson's first choice when he came into the job.  His price tag was the valuation at the time, and he was still sold for over £15m a year ago.  I think he is the future and holds the ball up better than Lambert.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, but I could see Delph or Shelvey instead.  Huddlestone was less impressive this season for me.  Caulker could play instead, just didn't want to have too many Tottenham or ex-Spurs in team.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 17, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Carroll was Hodgson's first choice when he came into the job.  His price tag was the valuation at the time, and he was still sold for over £15m a year ago.  I think he is the future and holds the ball up better than Lambert.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, but I could see Delph or Shelvey instead.  Huddlestone was less impressive this season for me.  Caulker could play instead, just didn't want to have too many Tottenham or ex-Spurs in team.

'I think he is the future' Isn't that exactly what I said? With current form Lambert is the smart choice, but Carroll if he remains fit, is indeed a future seection. Parker and Sidwell however, are most definitly not.

Quote from: alfie on June 17, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.


Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.

I thought better of you. No coming back from a comment like that.

to be honest i could not care less what you think of me, i am just stating like you, me and everyone else the guy is entitled to his opinion, and where am i coming back from?, i have not been anywhere yet.



Good to hear. Least we agree we don't hold any value to each others opinion then.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: MiltonBurrows on June 17, 2014, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 17, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Carroll was Hodgson's first choice when he came into the job.  His price tag was the valuation at the time, and he was still sold for over £15m a year ago.  I think he is the future and holds the ball up better than Lambert.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, but I could see Delph or Shelvey instead.  Huddlestone was less impressive this season for me.  Caulker could play instead, just didn't want to have too many Tottenham or ex-Spurs in team.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, 2 or 3 years ago. No one in our squad warranted a England Call up, or even came close to it. We were dross and thats why we got relegated.

You are entitled to your opinion, but i think the majority of fulham fans and fans across the nation eould disagree with you that sidwell is the best midfielder in England. He's just gone to Stoke, which sums up what kind of player he is for me. But don't get me wrong, he was terrific for us last season.

As for the cost of Carroll over Lambert, young english players are well known to be drastically over priced. In both transfers, both clubs admitted in paying over the odds for andy carroll, with david gold even admitting that the Carroll transfer was a mistake! Lambert has warrented that place in the scoring over 30 goals in the PL over 2 seasons. Something Carroll has yet to do.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Big Martin Jol on June 17, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
My starting XI would be

              Ruddy
Flanagan-Caulker-Stones-Cole
     Carrick-Shelvey
Walcott-Rodriguez-Townsend
              Defoe

The rest of the squad would be Stockdale, Butland, Walker, Terry, Clyne, Lennon, Huddlestone, Rodwell, Barry, Morrison, Carroll, Wickham.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: jmh on June 17, 2014, 05:13:09 PM
Are we talking about the World Cup four years ago?  If not, then I'm not sure why people are including Ashley Cole.  He's been pretty bad for three years now.  In addition to Baines and Shaw, Kieran Gibbs, Danny Rose and Jon Flanagan were all better than Cole this past season.
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: Rhys Lightning 63 on June 17, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
                                Scott Parker

Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                   Scott Parker - Scott Parker

          Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                             Scott Parker
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: alfie on June 17, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 17, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Carroll was Hodgson's first choice when he came into the job.  His price tag was the valuation at the time, and he was still sold for over £15m a year ago.  I think he is the future and holds the ball up better than Lambert.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, but I could see Delph or Shelvey instead.  Huddlestone was less impressive this season for me.  Caulker could play instead, just didn't want to have too many Tottenham or ex-Spurs in team.

'I think he is the future' Isn't that exactly what I said? With current form Lambert is the smart choice, but Carroll if he remains fit, is indeed a future seection. Parker and Sidwell however, are most definitly not.

Quote from: alfie on June 17, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.


Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.

I thought better of you. No coming back from a comment like that.

to be honest i could not care less what you think of me, i am just stating like you, me and everyone else the guy is entitled to his opinion, and where am i coming back from?, i have not been anywhere yet.



Good to hear. Least we agree we don't any value to each others opinion then.


Sorry i don't understand "Least we agree we don't any value to each others opinion then."

I did not say that i agree with his opinion i just said he had a right to express it just like anyone else on here.
The fact that you think less of me for saying this, well i think that is your issue not mine.
anyway enough said onwards and upwards,  "whatever squad we have" or England have
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: jmh on June 17, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on June 17, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
                               Scott Parker

Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                   Scott Parker - Scott Parker

          Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                             Scott Parker
Even in goal?   :58:
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 18, 2014, 09:45:01 AM
Quote from: jmh on June 17, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on June 17, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
                                Scott Parker

Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                    Scott Parker - Scott Parker

          Scott Parker - Scott Parker - Scott Parker

                              Scott Parker
Even in goal?   :58:

That pitch would get churned up in no time with all those donuts!
Title: Re: Alternative England
Post by: FFC1987 on June 18, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 17, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 17, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Carroll was Hodgson's first choice when he came into the job.  His price tag was the valuation at the time, and he was still sold for over £15m a year ago.  I think he is the future and holds the ball up better than Lambert.

Parker impressed me in an England shirt, but I could see Delph or Shelvey instead.  Huddlestone was less impressive this season for me.  Caulker could play instead, just didn't want to have too many Tottenham or ex-Spurs in team.

'I think he is the future' Isn't that exactly what I said? With current form Lambert is the smart choice, but Carroll if he remains fit, is indeed a future seection. Parker and Sidwell however, are most definitly not.

Quote from: alfie on June 17, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 17, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 16, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 16, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
Stockdale is far better than Ruddy who has been called up.  Richards is better than the hapless Glenn Johnson.  Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England, Parker was captain recently, Defoe has never let England down and Carroll is better than Lambert.  But you are welcome to your views.

Deary me....You really discredit yourself with statements like 'Sidwell for me is the best central midfielder in England'. Never have I heard such nonsense. Carroll isn't better than Lambert either. He potentially will be if he remains fit but right now he just isn't.


Some people think that Carroll is better than Lambert you don't, but it is all about opions and as much as a don't like a lot of what he says he is entitled to his own opinion.

I thought better of you. No coming back from a comment like that.

to be honest i could not care less what you think of me, i am just stating like you, me and everyone else the guy is entitled to his opinion, and where am i coming back from?, i have not been anywhere yet.



Good to hear. Least we agree we don't any value to each others opinion then.


Sorry i don't understand "Least we agree we don't any value to each others opinion then."

I did not say that i agree with his opinion i just said he had a right to express it just like anyone else on here.
The fact that you think less of me for saying this, well i think that is your issue not mine.
anyway enough said onwards and upwards,  "whatever squad we have" or England have


Edited to make it clearer.

Its my right to belittle opinions if statements like 'Sidwell is the best midfielder in England' arise. I never stated he had no right to an opinion, I merely discredited it.