Sorry if this has already been reported.
Fulham are apparently in advanced talks to sign Australian striker Adam Taggart from Newcastle Jets.
23 years old and 6ft tall, Adam is currently out in Brazil with the Australian squad.
it would be typical fulham, fail in bid for a good striker, then follow it up with a total unheard of
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
I think we could do with a couple of strikers so it may not be an either or situation. Especially as the Leeds striker and the Jets striker are not in the same mould at all.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 18, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
I think we could do with a couple of strikers so it may not be an either or situation. Especially as the Leeds striker and the Jets striker are not in the same mould at all.
If we plan on losing Mitro and Rodallega you're right. Only got Woodrow and Dembele left so we may benefit from 2 if not 3 new strikers.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
The question isn't if we can identify players from those countries. The question is can the Fulham scouting network identify players from those countires that are worth signing. Dejagah has certainly done well and there may be a few others who could do a job for Fulham. The unknown isn't always that scary if you just get to know it.
Quote from: BarryP on June 18, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
The question isn't if we can identify players from those countries. The question is can the Fulham scouting network identify players from those countires that are worth signing. Dejagah has certainly done well and there may be a few others who could do a job for Fulham. The unknown isn't always that scary if you just get to know it.
hey i prefer the unknowns as normally there is a chance that they might suprise us unlike some of the crap we buy that know will be pants. my point is riversider claims he is not unheard of because he is at the world cup. so buy that theory he should know all of the players from every team. ive asked for just 8 each from 3 of them.
Is he a starter for Australia? They're on a 1700.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
Park? That must be 8
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on June 18, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
Park? That must be 8
lol
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: BarryP on June 18, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
The question isn't if we can identify players from those countries. The question is can the Fulham scouting network identify players from those countires that are worth signing. Dejagah has certainly done well and there may be a few others who could do a job for Fulham. The unknown isn't always that scary if you just get to know it.
hey i prefer the unknowns as normally there is a chance that they might suprise us unlike some of the crap we buy that know will be pants. my point is riversider claims he is not unheard of because he is at the world cup. so buy that theory he should know all of the players from every team. ive asked for just 8 each from 3 of them.
That's some really stretchy logic.
On the otherhand, it's pretty obvious that he's not unheard of. The press have heard of him. It appears very likely that Fulham have heard of him. I'd wager that all of the A-League watching Aussies have heard of him. And, if he actually makes it onto the field in Brazil, most of those watching will have heard of him. There's hardly any requirement that Mr Riversider knows of him, or every player on every team in the World Cup for that matter, to make a claim that young Taggart is not an unheard of player.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 18, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: BarryP on June 18, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
The question isn't if we can identify players from those countries. The question is can the Fulham scouting network identify players from those countires that are worth signing. Dejagah has certainly done well and there may be a few others who could do a job for Fulham. The unknown isn't always that scary if you just get to know it.
hey i prefer the unknowns as normally there is a chance that they might suprise us unlike some of the crap we buy that know will be pants. my point is riversider claims he is not unheard of because he is at the world cup. so buy that theory he should know all of the players from every team. ive asked for just 8 each from 3 of them.
That's some really stretchy logic.
On the otherhand, it's pretty obvious that he's not unheard of. The press have heard of him. It appears very likely that Fulham have heard of him. I'd wager that all of the A-League watching Aussies have heard of him. And, if he actually makes it onto the field in Brazil, most of those watching will have heard of him. There's hardly any requirement that Mr Riversider knows of him, or every player on every team in the World Cup for that matter, to make a claim that young Taggart is not an unheard of player.
99% of the english population wouldnt have heard of him though. did he even get a run out the other day
We've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 18, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
We've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
At this stage I think that is the only way to look at it. We seem to be looking for up and comers from many leagues instead of old creaky names that 5 years ago were good. Has to be the way to go now.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 18, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
We've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
At this stage I think that is the only way to look at it. We seem to be looking for up and comers from many leagues instead of old creaky names that 5 years ago were good. Has to be the way to go now.
should have been the way years ago.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 18, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
We've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
At this stage I think that is the only way to look at it. We seem to be looking for up and comers from many leagues instead of old creaky names that 5 years ago were good. Has to be the way to go now.
Generally I agree, but I don't really see the point of signing promising 20-ish strikers when we've got Woodrow, Dembele and (at least for now) Trotta.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
it would be typical fulham, fail in bid for a good striker, then follow it up with a total unheard of
To be honest most players we sign unless they have a notable career in the premiership are unheard of.
Hangeland? riether? Dejagah? Erik Nevland? Brian McBride? Dempsey? etc the list is endless.
Let's be honest and realise that we're all ignorant when it comes to football up to a certain point.
Even if you were really into it and football was your profession it would be impossible to know all the players of quality out there. That's why you have multiple scouts. Only the top clubs can consistently go out and buy well known players. The rest are created due to their growth professionally or exposure through live games. That's one of the huge benefits of the world cup.
That Ayat player who played for Ghana and is apparently on Chelseas book and spent time at Anderlecht looked like a real steal (although needs to improve his shooting accuracy and final ball a lot). He reminded me of a Bale/Sterling comparison.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 18, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: BarryP on June 18, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Riversider on June 18, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
The question isn't if we can identify players from those countries. The question is can the Fulham scouting network identify players from those countires that are worth signing. Dejagah has certainly done well and there may be a few others who could do a job for Fulham. The unknown isn't always that scary if you just get to know it.
hey i prefer the unknowns as normally there is a chance that they might suprise us unlike some of the crap we buy that know will be pants. my point is riversider claims he is not unheard of because he is at the world cup. so buy that theory he should know all of the players from every team. ive asked for just 8 each from 3 of them.
That's some really stretchy logic.
On the otherhand, it's pretty obvious that he's not unheard of. The press have heard of him. It appears very likely that Fulham have heard of him. I'd wager that all of the A-League watching Aussies have heard of him. And, if he actually makes it onto the field in Brazil, most of those watching will have heard of him. There's hardly any requirement that Mr Riversider knows of him, or every player on every team in the World Cup for that matter, to make a claim that young Taggart is not an unheard of player.
99% of the english population wouldnt have heard of him though. did he even get a run out the other day
99% of Manchester United fans have probably never heard of Ross McCormick.. If we're going to be doing any good business it's going to be mostly with unknowns, if they were household names they wouldn't be coming to us.
I've asked the club to do a poll on their website to meet the fans criteria of players we should buy/sign. It's simply, 'have you heard of him'. If we get 50% or more, we sign, if under, he's a write off. Flawless plan.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 18, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
I've asked the club to do a poll on their website to meet the fans criteria of players we should buy/sign. It's simply, 'have you heard of him'. If we get 50% or more, we sign, if under, he's a write off. Flawless plan.
whats criteria got to do with it. i just said its typical fulham to get us excited about a player, only for us to end up with an unheard of. it happens quite regularly with us. didnt say i didnt want the player to sign or not. just that this is typical of us
We rarely operate in public though. Mitroglou was probably the most open transfer we've done in a while, maybe Stekelenburg cos of the January bid and I guess Berba after the Italian clubs announced our interest. THE CLUB doesn't get us excited, largely unfounded rumours do. That ain't their fault.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 18, 2014, 04:29:10 PM
We rarely operate in public though. Mitroglou was probably the most open transfer we've done in a while, maybe Stekelenburg cos of the January bid and I guess Berba after the Italian clubs announced our interest. THE CLUB doesn't get us excited, largely unfounded rumours do. That ain't their fault.
rene was very open in the january market, but ill conceed most other windows we are relying on media for said information
apparently Adam Taggart is in advanced talks with Fulham ?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-striker-adam-taggart-is-in-talks-with-english-club-fulham-to-join-them-from-newcastle-jets/story-fnkjbhuz-1226958564345 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-striker-adam-taggart-is-in-talks-with-english-club-fulham-to-join-them-from-newcastle-jets/story-fnkjbhuz-1226958564345)
Slight concern though with Taggart is when you got Emile Heskey as your strike partner you gonna look good !!!
Two things...
1. You have to trust that the club's scouting network knows a great deal more about what is out there than we do.
2. Over the years there have been numerous examples of us signing players who us supporters never really knew about who turned out to be quite good.
25 games played and 16 goals this season. A good return and I think he could be very useful, especially in the championship as a squad player.
Can't people on here ever be pleased?
Quote from: PeterFFC on June 18, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
25 games played and 16 goals this season. A good return and I think he could be very useful, especially in the championship as a squad player.
Can't people on here ever be pleased?
who is not pleased then?
on the bench now. Was unused sub against Chile
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 03:33:49 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on June 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PMQuote from: TrexFFC on June 18, 2014, 03:16:22 PMWe've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
At this stage I think that is the only way to look at it. We seem to be looking for up and comers from many leagues instead of old creaky names that 5 years ago were good. Has to be the way to go now.
Generally I agree, but I don't really see the point of signing promising 20-ish strikers when we've got Woodrow, Dembele and (at least for now) Trotta.
I know we have Mitroglou,Hugo,Woodrow,Trotta,Dembele in the squad....and I mean in the squad. The club as a whole does not have many strikers from first team downwards. So we need some bodies in.
Also remember Dembele is still only 17 and is not going to play 46 games next season and to ask him to okay half of that will be a hard. Trotta has asked to leave and a majority of fans seem to him to go as well ( no I don't know why).
So I'm more than happy to look at younger strikers and the more the merrier.
On the plus side, we are looking at unknowns in their early twenties. That, is in itself, a giant step in the right direction. Of all the old farts we picked up who besides Karagounis and Berbatov added anything to the squad. Even those two were spotty.
Also on the plus side, the Aussie actually speaks English I can understand....unlike you lot. LOL
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 18, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
We've been linked to this guy and Ross McCormack now. We're linked to a guy that has had experience in the Championship and a guy with high upside but we don't know what we would get exactly. I think this is honestly a positive. I've been seeing comments about getting a guy who is proven in the Championship and getting someone who has nice potential to be good for us. I'm happy because to me it shows our scouting is looking at many different avenues to bring in players.
At this stage I think that is the only way to look at it. We seem to be looking for up and comers from many leagues instead of old creaky names that 5 years ago were good. Has to be the way to go now.
Generally I agree, but I don't really see the point of signing promising 20-ish strikers when we've got Woodrow, Dembele and (at least for now) Trotta.
I know we have Mitroglou,Hugo,Woodrow,Trotta,Dembele in the squad....and I mean in the squad. The club as a whole does not have many strikers from first team downwards. So we need some bodies in.
Also remember Dembele is still only 17 and is not going to play 46 games next season and to ask him to okay half of that will be a hard. Trotta has asked to leave and a majority of fans seem to him to go as well ( no I don't know why).
So I'm more than happy to look at younger strikers and the more the merrier.
"I'm happy with my season at Brentford and for the promotion in the Championship. My loan is finished and Fulham have summoned me for the pre-season that will begin next week," he told tuttomercatoweb.com.
"I have not yet talked with the executives to understand what the club want to do with me. I know that in Italy many teams are interested in me and that makes me happy. Together with my agents I will evaluate the offers."I know it was widely reported, but to me that doesn't seem like a player that has handed in a transfer request.
On your other point, I really don't get what you mean. Dembele or Woodrow won't be happy to play U21/U18 football another season, so if we lack strikers in the youth teams, we'll need to get youth strikers, not 20-year-olds.
And no, I don't expect Woodrow or Dembele to play 46 games, that is probably the most annoying argument regarding our younger players. We'll need a squad of good players, and if we're going to play with two strikers then at the moment that's Mitroglou and Hugo, with Woodrow and Dembele/Trotta as backups.
I'm not surprised he isn't a starter for Australia, with Tim Cahill scoring goals upfront on his own there is no need for Australia to bring him on also he's still a kid for christ sake, he's only going to get better whilst playing in the Championship.
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 18, 2014, 04:46:36 PM
Quote from: PeterFFC on June 18, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
25 games played and 16 goals this season. A good return and I think he could be very useful, especially in the championship as a squad player.
Can't people on here ever be pleased?
who is not pleased then?
Sorry if I'm wrong but I thought you weren't. But I mean in general people aren't very upbeat
23 year old, 6 foot striker - try him at left back
personally i think we should be looking for a proven scorer in the division to compliment what we have and not a striker form a league which is not comparable. Admittedly ive not seen a lot of the a league but from what I have it doesnt look to be comparable.
Possible that we get a look at Taggert in Australia's final group game. Sounds like Cahill is suspended.
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
What are you on about? The first team is the one that matters and if a player is good enough to step up, the club won't be saying 'Oh, but he can't. Because who would play in the youth team then?'.
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
What are you on about? The first team is the one that matters and if a player is good enough to step up, the club won't be saying 'Oh, but he can't. Because who would play in the youth team then?'.
i thought thy did exactly that last year when Dembele went to the US for the dallas cup
Just come on v holland
Just come on for Aus against holland.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
What are you on about? The first team is the one that matters and if a player is good enough to step up, the club won't be saying 'Oh, but he can't. Because who would play in the youth team then?'.
i thought thy did exactly that last year when Dembele went to the US for the dallas cup
Yeah, okay. If the options are a place in the stands for the first team or starter in a short youth tournament, then it's realistic.
If he's bad we won't want him. If he's good we'll want him, but he'll get interest elsewhere. Catch 22.
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
What are you on about? The first team is the one that matters and if a player is good enough to step up, the club won't be saying 'Oh, but he can't. Because who would play in the youth team then?'.
i thought thy did exactly that last year when Dembele went to the US for the dallas cup
Yeah, okay. If the options are a place in the stands for the first team or starter in a short youth tournament, then it's realistic.
he would actually of played in my opinion as the tournament was just after the stat he made during the run in last season. but I still think we should be looking to give our young oness squad places and looking for experience to go with that
Quote from: twang on June 18, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Well you have answered it yourself, only five strikers covering first team and u21's. Need another one or two, and out of them I would expect at least one to go on loan.
I don't see Dembele quite in matchday squad yet, a short loan spell or at least another dozen u21 games and I'll be happy to see him involved.
I see no downside on trying to get the Aussie lad and also another experienced striker.
What are you on about? The first team is the one that matters and if a player is good enough to step up, the club won't be saying 'Oh, but he can't. Because who would play in the youth team then?'.
the first team is not all that matters. Its about having a full squad where even u17's can move through the ranks.
But at the moment if you say Dembele is a first team squad player we have no u21 strikers. I'm just saying that signing a 21 year old Aussie is just going to add to the squad that's all. You seem to think that Dembele is full squad now never to darken the u21's again.
But yes we also need to be looking at 16-19 year Olds as well.
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Per his Wikipedia page he was just transferred in May; doubt he'd be available.
Ahmed Elrich anyone?
Quote from: jmh on June 18, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Per his Wikipedia page he was just transferred in May; doubt he'd be available.
he looked pretty decent tonight.
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Great speed. Great at getting round defenders. Made the Chile defenders look slow and flat footed. Terrible passing & scoring - and he has improved in this area. He tried to 'body' the ball in from a cross. If that was Cahill we (aus) would have got a point today
Quote from: lamby on June 19, 2014, 04:33:31 AM
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Great speed. Great at getting round defenders. Made the Chile defenders look slow and flat footed. Terrible passing & scoring - and he has improved in this area. He tried to 'body' the ball in from a cross. If that was Cahill we (aus) would have got a point today
That other unknown, Cahill I think his name was, looked handy. I wonder if he is available :-)
Been watching his progress for years so I'd love if this pulled through haha but bias aside he's fast, can run for days and a good finisher. If I had to draw a comparison I'd say he'd sort of play like Woodrow. Definitely one of the players in line to take Cahill's spot for Australia when he's done.
http://youtu.be/l7fCI2yKvpA (http://youtu.be/l7fCI2yKvpA)
I live in Newcastle and am a season ticket holder with the Newcastle Jets, and my first thought when I heard Fulham were interested in signing Taggart was that I didn't think he would cut it at Championship level. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'd be a better option than Woodrow or the other young options we've got up front.
Quote from: Crita on June 19, 2014, 06:32:26 AM
I live in Newcastle and am a season ticket holder with the Newcastle Jets, and my first thought when I heard Fulham were interested in signing Taggart was that I didn't think he would cut it at Championship level. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'd be a better option than Woodrow or the other young options we've got up front.
But he doesn't have to be. He just has to be an addition to the squad. The season is a long one and I have no doubt we are going to go for better strikers. But we need a squad and if he should sign he will be just that. Poor old Woodrow and Dembele or whoever else we think will last the Championship need help.
Sounds fairly promising, and a goal every 135(ish) minutes last season is pretty good, but I get the feeling he'd fall into the "Orlando Sa/David Elm" category of Fulham strikers, rather than the "Louis Saha/Brian McBride" end of the spectrum.
We don't tend to have much luck buying backups - they're usually just a waste of wages.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 19, 2014, 10:34:18 AM
Sounds fairly promising, and a goal every 135(ish) minutes last season is pretty good,
...which is just what that young Italian lad did at Brentford last season (133)
Quote from: lamby on June 19, 2014, 04:33:31 AM
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Great speed. Great at getting round defenders. Made the Chile defenders look slow and flat footed. Terrible passing & scoring - and he has improved in this area. He tried to 'body' the ball in from a cross. If that was Cahill we (aus) would have got a point today
To be fair to him it wasn't a great cross, neither on the ground nor head height and hit too hard.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on June 19, 2014, 11:08:04 AM
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Quote from: fulhamfever on June 18, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
What are your thoughts on Mathew Leckie I thought he played well for Australia really good Midfielder
Great speed. Great at getting round defenders. Made the Chile defenders look slow and flat footed. Terrible passing & scoring - and he has improved in this area. He tried to 'body' the ball in from a cross. If that was Cahill we (aus) would have got a point today
To be fair to him it wasn't a great cross, neither on the ground nor head height and hit too hard.
Was a terrible cross. Oar has been pretty average in his first two games. I wouldn't blame Leckie for not scoring. Leckie has just re signed with a second division German club. He wont be going anywhere. Taggart was clearly the standout striker in the A League last season. A good cheap option. And he's only 21 not 23. His rapid improvement in the A League suggests he can make a name for himself in the Championship. From all reports he has a great attitude too.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 19, 2014, 10:34:18 AM
We don't tend to have much luck buying backups - they're usually just a waste of wages.
You've gotta have backups though, and they don't play for free. And certainly there's value in having decent ones - think Kasey Keller, for example. You just can't *overpay* for them in our position.
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He's playing at The World Cup FFS, how is he unheard of ?
I bet you'd heard of Darren Bent and never heard of Louis Saha .
can you name me 8 players from south korea, iran and algeria?
Park? That must be 8
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He's starting up front against Spain.
Quote from: Parkway Drive on June 20, 2014, 06:29:43 AM
He's starting up front against Spain.
How do you know? Has the manager said?
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 20, 2014, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: Parkway Drive on June 20, 2014, 06:29:43 AM
He's starting up front against Spain.
How do you know? Has the manager said?
Only striker we have left haha other than moving Mathew Leckie from the right but I doubt that would happen.
Don't forget gang, 5pm today on ITV 4 today, it's Australia v Spain, and our chance to see two potential Fulham players Taggart and Davidson ,
Should be a good test for them both and I'm looking forward to see how they get on .
I didn't see the match, but from what I can glean at whoscored, Taggart wasn't very involved. He came off at halftime and didn't seem to have had many touches, completing just two of five attempted passes.
Davidson (are there really reports that we're after him?) played the full match at left back. No tackles, four interceptions, four successful clearances, one shot blocked. Completed 38 of 50 passes. Got upfield enough to attempt four crosses, none of which were successful.
The support and supply for Taggart was abysmal, he had absolutely nothing to play with. Davidson was iffy at the back but put in some decent crosses. Spain played pretty well though.
Quote from: jmh on June 23, 2014, 07:37:36 PM
I didn't see the match, but from what I can glean at whoscored, Taggart wasn't very involved. He came off at halftime and didn't seem to have had many touches, completing just two of five attempted passes.
Davidson (are there really reports that we're after him?) played the full match at left back. No tackles, four interceptions, four successful clearances, one shot blocked. Completed 38 of 50 passes. Got upfield enough to attempt four crosses, none of which were successful.
I'd say the stats give a bit of a flattering picture, although I thought he did make quite a decent tackle early on. He did sally upfield now and again, without much effect. The other stuff I didn't count, but I don't think it unfair to say that he was poorly positioned for two of the goals (although one was offside). Thems the facts - I make no judgement based on a single viewing.
Taggart, as GTM has said, had no support and didn't seem to do anything wrong.
I presume his substitution was because of injury.
Probably a maniscus tear......but don't worry, he'll be OK next week.
Taggart is 21 not 23, also only 200k compared with 10 nil for mcormack, no real comparison
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Great song - can the lad match it?
Quote from: theFFCfan on June 23, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Taggart is 21 not 23, also only 200k compared with 10 nil for mcormack, no real comparison
I think you are hugely mistaken if you think taggart is being bought in place of mccormack
Taggart will be a squad player as we only have Woodrow & Dembele upfront atm. We have lost Bent & would expect Rodallega & Mitroglou to be moved on aswell so another 2 strikers are needed
lack of support or not, i thought Taggart's movement was poor throughout the game, even without supply and supoprt you need ot make runs and I didnt think he was sharo enough to what he had to do. The left back was ok nothing spectacular and didn't seem an improvement on Richardson or dare I say Riise.
Obviously just my opinion from what I saw on TV.
On the basis of this game I don't rate either of these players but we'll see.
Didn't think either looked great, but it has to be remembered who the opposition were..
If they looked amazing against Spain and Holland they would be looking at far better offers than ones from us.
Plus, at a combined total expenditure (rumoured) of <£250k, not exactly a great risk.
We can't really tell what these squad players will be like on one showing against Spain. Look at how well Ruiz played so far in the World Cup and some fans still think he is rubbish. On that scale the two Aussies should be wonderful.
I guess I'm just old.fashion but I do like to give.players a chance to perform in a Fulham shirt against their actual competition before making any judgements about their level of play and preseason doesn't count. Welcome aboard and good luck to all the new signings.
Quote from: BarryP on June 25, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
I guess I'm just old.fashion but I do like to give.players a chance to perform in a Fulham shirt against their actual competition before making any judgements about their level of play and preseason doesn't count. Welcome aboard and good luck to all the new signings.
Pschhh... Get with the times, Grandpa!
Criticising players that no one's heard of nor seen play is all the rage these days.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 25, 2014, 06:45:32 PM
Pschhh... Get with the times, Grandpa!
Criticising players that no one's heard of nor seen play is all the rage these days.
Absolutely right.
You must also keep to the established rule: Any player brought into FFC is useless and proof of managerial incompetence.
Any player who leaves FFC is fabulous and proof of managerial incompetence.
