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Title: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Sammyffc on June 30, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Sky Sports Journalists and other Journo's have reported that Ross Mccormack HAS NOT travelled with the Leeds team to go to Italy for there pre season.

Considering the odd's are 1/6 that he will join fulham its worth keeping an eye on  065.gif
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2014, 11:35:15 AM

Leed's fans still believe they're close to being European champions and that we, the team who have spent 13 years in the Prem are an awful club, step backwards , yada yada yada.

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2en3s7o.jpg)

Enjoyed this guys thoughts on the move thought, absolute goon.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: the nutflush on June 30, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
Craven Cottage...how much more character do you want?  No pleasing some Leeds fans. 
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Andyb on June 30, 2014, 12:04:17 PM
Twitter is going crazy at the moment saying he's having medical at fulham! Odds on sky bet have gone from 1/6 to 1/10 to join us!

P.S Leeds fans piss me off! Slating fulham as a soulless club and believe Leeds are better than us! Grrrrr
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Quote from: Andyb on June 30, 2014, 12:04:17 PM
Twitter is going crazy at the moment saying he's having medical at fulham! Odds on sky bet have gone from 1/6 to 1/10 to join us!

P.S Leeds fans piss me off! Slating fulham as a soulless club and believe Leeds are better than us! Grrrrr

Awful club now owned by a bent crook, that's all they have going for them.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: SKSW6 on June 30, 2014, 12:14:29 PM
I think fans overhype the influence they think atmosphere and themselves have on where a player goes. Much more important to the vast majority of players will be salary, location, security, friends and family etc. A lot of the time I think they just say "it's great to be at a club with such great fans" to appease the fans.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MasterHaynes on June 30, 2014, 12:18:35 PM
Unless we can move Mitro first I cannot see this happening, plus it would be difficult for their new owner to justify this to fans when he has said whsat he has
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Nero on June 30, 2014, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Quote from: Andyb on June 30, 2014, 12:04:17 PM
Twitter is going crazy at the moment saying he's having medical at fulham! Odds on sky bet have gone from 1/6 to 1/10 to join us!

P.S Leeds fans piss me off! Slating fulham as a soulless club and believe Leeds are better than us! Grrrrr

Awful club now owned by a bent crook, that's all they have going for them.

and thats after Bates
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: blingo on June 30, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
Ahhhh Master Bates, I remember being in an Italian restaurant sitting at the next table to him when he was with Chelsea. What an arrogant, horrible person.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
I used to go out with his granddaughter.... She is now a lesbian.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Delboy on June 30, 2014, 01:30:14 PM
Where's our spy in the hedge at Motspur Park when we need him ?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on June 30, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
I used to go out with his granddaughter.... She is now a lesbian.
doesn't really say a lot about your love making ;)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: tslyon on June 30, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
I used to go out with his granddaughter.... She is now a lesbian.

Wow!  What did you do to make her realize she was more interested in women?  

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Sammyffc on June 30, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: tslyon on June 30, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
I used to go out with his granddaughter.... She is now a lesbian.

Wow!  What did you do to make her realize she was more interested in women? 

Cheers,

Steve

i have also been out with a bird and then she decided she was lesbian a few months later. Either she was confused at the time , or i put up one hell of a show that no other male could match  :028:
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: King_Crud on June 30, 2014, 02:33:34 PM
Quote from: Sammyffc on June 30, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: tslyon on June 30, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
I used to go out with his granddaughter.... She is now a lesbian.

Wow!  What did you do to make her realize she was more interested in women? 

Cheers,

Steve

i have also been out with a bird and then she decided she was lesbian a few months later. Either she was confused at the time , or i put up one hell of a show that no other male could match  :028:

But did she go out with a chick that looked like you?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: HatterDon on June 30, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...

So you're the guy who stole the chickens!!!!!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Blanco on June 30, 2014, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on June 30, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...

So you're the guy who stole the chickens!!!!!

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Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on June 30, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...

So you're the guy who stole the chickens!!!!!


Haha
To be fair I do own some chickens...
An I bought them, honestly!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on June 30, 2014, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on June 30, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...

So you're the guy who stole the chickens!!!!!


They weren't stolen they moved on to bigger thiings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtI0yOArbrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtI0yOArbrU)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Rhys Lightning 63 on June 30, 2014, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on June 30, 2014, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on June 30, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 30, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Put it this way fella, I won't be counting my chickens...

So you're the guy who stole the chickens!!!!!


They weren't stolen they moved on to bigger thiings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtI0yOArbrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtI0yOArbrU)

What the heck did I just watch?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on June 30, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
I'm just a rubbish lover.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on June 30, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Fulham and Norwich are said to be offering 10 million quid.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on June 30, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 30, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Fulham and Norwich are said to be offering 10 million quid.
I've never been one of those that moans about spending the chairmen's money, but is this bloke really worth anywhere near ten million
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fulham76 on June 30, 2014, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 30, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 30, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Fulham and Norwich are said to be offering 10 million quid.
I've never been one of those that moans about spending the chairmen's money, but is this bloke really worth anywhere near ten million

No, but if we get him & he scores 30 league goals next season, then maybe. It does seen way over the top though
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on June 30, 2014, 06:33:29 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 30, 2014, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 30, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 30, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Fulham and Norwich are said to be offering 10 million quid.
I've never been one of those that moans about spending the chairmen's money, but is this bloke really worth anywhere near ten million

No, but if we get him & he scores 30 league goals next season, then maybe. It does seen way over the top though
fair point.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 06:48:29 PM
Very excited about this one which means it's almost guaranteed not to happen.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on June 30, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
Any thoughts on how this might impact the possible signing of the Croatian striker (Kamaric?)?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on June 30, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 30, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Fulham and Norwich are said to be offering 10 million quid.

He will not be, and we won't be paying anywhere near 10 million for McCormack, that I can assure you of now.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on June 30, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 30, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
Any thoughts on how this might impact the possible signing of the Croatian striker (Kamaric?)?

I think we will go for both and Rodders will be on his way.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on June 30, 2014, 07:52:12 PM
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Re: Ross McCormack Again
   
1/10 on to join Fulham. Betting expert on sky says for his odds to come down that much overnight and the money being placed on it says someone is in the know.

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Reported to have tabled a £10 million bid along with Fulham Don't think he is worth that !!
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£10m?! No thanks! I'd rather Deeney or Rhodes for cheaper if we're getting another striker.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
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1/10 on to join Fulham. Betting expert on sky says for his odds to come down that much overnight and the money being placed on it says someone is in the know.

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Reported to have tabled a £10 million bid along with Fulham Don't think he is worth that !!
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Re: Ross McCormack Again
   
£10m?! No thanks! I'd rather Deeney or Rhodes for cheaper if we're getting another striker.


Rhodes for cheaper? Lunatics. He cost 10 million a few years back.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Blanco on June 30, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Seems he could join us for £10 million. Not official but doing the rounds on twitter. Too much money that.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: KP_FFC on June 30, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Sky Bet FL ‏@SkyBetFL 38m

We've suspended betting on #LUFC captain Ross McCormack joining Fulham after seeing large bets on the move at as short as 1/6 #FFC
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: jelmo on June 30, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!

Because we dont want to turn into qpr. 10 mil is too much. We basically are giving leeds a lot of money to spend wisely with
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Airfix on June 30, 2014, 11:38:47 PM
Quote from: jelmo on June 30, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!

Because we dont want to turn into qpr. 10 mil is too much. We basically are giving leeds a lot of money to spend wisely with

Because Leeds are well known for that!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: SimpleTactics on June 30, 2014, 11:47:15 PM
Honestly wouldn't pay more than 7m for him but at the end of the day if it means he gets a load of goals and we get promoted it will be a worthwhile investment. Besides we should recoup some money when/ if we sell Ruiz and Mitroglou.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Putney on June 30, 2014, 11:51:09 PM
People speculating about player and managerial moves because of odds shortening is so irritating.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Bryanthebroom on June 30, 2014, 11:51:21 PM
10m seems like panic buying to me
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Chutney on June 30, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
If it is £10mil then its a ridiculous transfer. Coutinho only cost Liverpool £8.5, terrible bit of business. Around the £4mil mark is more realistic for a player of McCormack's ability. fp.gif
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 01, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
 Some of us are complaining about a fee for a player wanted by two Prem clubs. Given the choice he wouldn't come to Fulham if everybody met the fee. But do any of us know what the fee is? 10 million seems a pretty nice round number to spread around. There are probably conditions attached to any fee and so we will see where he ends up.

At least it adds to the excitement at last.

Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: RaySmith on July 01, 2014, 12:17:59 AM
Be good if we get him, but we probably won't.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: TWFL on July 01, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 01, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
Some of us are complaining about a fee for a player wanted by two Prem clubs. Given the choice he wouldn't come to Fulham if everybody met the fee. But do any of us know what the fee is? 10 million seems a pretty nice round number to spread around. There are probably conditions attached to any fee and so we will see where he ends up.

At least it adds to the excitement at last.


Exactly. I can almost guarantee that there will be umpteen conditions attached to it. Just like the Ruiz deal and just like the Mitroglou deal. I reckon perhaps £5m maybe £6m at a push will be paid up front, the rest on RM's performances.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Blanco on July 01, 2014, 01:34:41 AM
Quote from: Putney on June 30, 2014, 11:51:09 PM
People speculating about player and managerial moves because of odds shortening is so irritating.
I think there's more to it than just odds.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: EJL on July 01, 2014, 02:48:31 AM
I reckon it'll be nearer the original £7 mil with Celino floating £10 mil to please the fans. Conspiracy...
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Arthur on July 01, 2014, 03:51:04 AM
Quote from: Chutney on June 30, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
If it is £10mil then its a ridiculous transfer. Coutinho only cost Liverpool £8.5, terrible bit of business. Around the £4mil mark is more realistic for a player of McCormack's ability. fp.gif

A player as highly-rated as Coutinho was never going to come to England to join a club in the Championship; to imply, therefore, that we could sign a player with a similar reputation for less than we may spend on McCormack is a red herring.

Moreover, we can't force Leeds to sell him for £4M, no matter how realistic that valuation may be. If we are to be promoted, however, is it vital that we have someone in the team who scores a lot of goals? And is McCormack likely to score a lot of goals next season? If the Club concludes that the answer to both questions is 'Yes', I would argue that this makes it worth spending more than £4M on him - irrespective of his ability.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Frank on July 01, 2014, 05:47:03 AM
If McCormack comes he will scores a lot of goals. If he doesn' t come we have three or four other players who will score these goals. For me it is not so important whether he comes or not. The defence wins the championship.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 01, 2014, 06:10:34 AM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Championship fair play rules I am worried about. If we breach them and go up its a fine if we breach and don't go up its points deduction at start of following season.

And Rhodes for 10 or 12 if possible would be a far better option. McCormacks had one good season where he scored what he had in the previous 4 combined, so it worries me slightly
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MJG on July 01, 2014, 06:43:42 AM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Because its a case of caring about the club and looking at the bigger picture. If we were spending £10M up front for him that would be madness. 6M plus extras relating to promotion only would make sense.

Its also a case of not wanting us to mess up on not getting the wrong player.

Your right its not our money but we can care and comment if we think its too much for a particluer player.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 07:17:25 AM
Quote from: Chutney on June 30, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
If it is £10mil then its a ridiculous transfer. Coutinho only cost Liverpool £8.5, terrible bit of business. Around the £4mil mark is more realistic for a player of McCormack's ability. fp.gif

Completely agree.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on July 01, 2014, 07:55:04 AM
Fulham are leading the race to sign Leeds United captain Ross McCormack and could finalise a deal to sign the 27-year-old Scottish international this week. Yorkshire Post


Ok ..... One goal scorer in?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
If, as touted, the price is £10m, I sincerely hope we walk away.

Kramaric (£5m) + Lansbury (£4m) would be far more sensible purchases and would cost less, combined, than McCormack.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fulham76 on July 01, 2014, 08:32:38 AM
Even at £10m it's unlikely he'll be as big a waste of money as our other +£10m purchases.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 01, 2014, 08:33:24 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2014, 06:10:34 AM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Championship fair play rules I am worried about. If we breach them and go up its a fine if we breach and don't go up its points deduction at start of following season.

And Rhodes for 10 or 12 if possible would be a far better option. McCormacks had one good season where he scored what he had in the previous 4 combined, so it worries me slightly
I agree its a big risk, BZ had one great season with us, admittedly a bad injury brought his good form to an end but prior to his golden spell he certainly found it difficult to score even in a team that finished 8th to qualify for europe.through the back door. Leeds fans seem happy for him to go if they get the money which worries me. I would like to see Lnasbury, he was a key player for Forest and is the sort of player we are missing in midfield.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 01, 2014, 08:42:14 AM
You could argue that £10 million for a near 28 year old who has generally played in the lower leagues in England and apart from one season has a moderate scoring record,is complete lunacy.
On the flip side,if he scored the goals to get us up his fee is recouped many times over. Loved winding the Rangers mates about how we mugged them off getting £4million for a finished Zamora , I got plenty back when he scored the play off winner.
We need to strengthen all over the park, just hope that if McCormack comes we don't spend the bulk of the budget on one player.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: f321ffc on July 01, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
The club can't win,  last week we had posters on here moaning that the players we were signing were not good enough now we get moans about spending on a proven championship striker because the papers are quoting £10million.

I doubt the fee is anywhere near that but even if it is and we get promotion then it's money well spent if not then it's not cost anyone on here a penny.

Supporting Fulham is never going to be easy , I should know as my first game was in 1963  so come on get behind the club and whatever happens WE ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE FULHAM. 049:gif
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
No longer on Skybet transfer odds. They must know something!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
If, as touted, the price is £10m, I sincerely hope we walk away.

Kramaric (£5m) + Lansbury (£4m) would be far more sensible purchases and would cost less, combined, than McCormack.

Maybe we go for all 3?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
No longer on Skybet transfer odds. They must know something!

Heavy lumps going on!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Sammyffc on July 01, 2014, 09:23:45 AM
Sky Sports News Just Tweeted : Fulham in talks with leeds over move for Ross Mccormack
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: BlaWhiArmyyyyyy on July 01, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
McCormack has signed...will be unveiled soon.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on July 01, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
All over SSN....... Breaking News....... Fulham close to signing Ross McCormack
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: twang on July 01, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
If you disregard the transfer fee, as no one knows what it really is and Cellino has most to gain from the fee being reported as larger than it actually is, then we could do a lot worse.

First of all it's a major statement of intent to buy last seasons top scorer and it really shows us fans, the players at the club and potential transfer targets that we mean business and are going for promotion.

Furthermore, we'd be set as far as striker options go. Assuming that Mitroglou is sold or loaned out we'd have Rodallega-McCormack as first choice with Woodrow and Dembele/Taggart/Trotta as backup. Not too shabby for a Championship club.

IMHO there's strikers with better value for money out there but I certainly won't complain if this deal goes through, no matter if we end up paying £5m or £10m.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 01, 2014, 09:39:12 AM
The latest reports sound like a repeat of yesterdays rumours but by different news outlets.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 09:41:43 AM
Here's (seriously) hoping he doesn't prove to be yet another member of our £10 million + duffers club!

 
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: WhiteJC on July 01, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
Quote from: MasterHaynes on June 30, 2014, 12:18:35 PM
Unless we can move Mitro first I cannot see this happening, plus it would be difficult for their new owner to justify this to fans when he has said whsat he has

straight swap?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:50:03 AM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 09:41:43 AM
Here's (seriously) hoping he doesn't prove to be yet another member of our £10 million + duffers club!

   

He's already sued to the league and has been decent for a few years. With the right service he will be as close to a guaranteed success as we could possibly have.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on July 01, 2014, 09:57:43 AM
Hope Ali Mac is not up north by himself.....
They will ply him with drink and take advantage........

He should have a good legal team around him ...... Tony Gilroy !!!!
Where is Tony btw
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
If, as touted, the price is £10m, I sincerely hope we walk away.

Kramaric (£5m) + Lansbury (£4m) would be far more sensible purchases and would cost less, combined, than McCormack.

Maybe we go for all 3?

Again, if (at any point) we have the money for a £10m McCormack, I can list numerous players I'd prefer a combination of that would be worth far less than £10m, including: Lansbury, Kramaric, Lascelles, Lindgard, Nick Powell, Cresswell, Byram, Ben Gibson, Harry Maguire, Jay Emmanuel Thomas, Steven Taylor, Guidetti, Vaz Te, Cleverly, etc, etc.

But I get your point. We have a rich, rich owner..
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
If, as touted, the price is £10m, I sincerely hope we walk away.

Kramaric (£5m) + Lansbury (£4m) would be far more sensible purchases and would cost less, combined, than McCormack.

Maybe we go for all 3?

Again, if (at any point) we have the money for a £10m McCormack, I can list numerous players I'd prefer a combination of that would be worth far less than £10m, including: Lansbury, Kramaric, Lascelles, Lindgard, Nick Powell, Cresswell, Byram, Harry Maguire, Jay Emmanuel Thomas, Steven Taylor, Guidetti, Vaz Te, Cleverly, etc, etc.

But I get your point. We have a rich, rich owner..

A proven goal scorer from the previous season, not 3 or 4 before, will cost us a fortune. He is one of only a few who did well and didnt get promoted so it's limited stock. He is their captain, main source of goals and all round best player. They may be fairly pants nowadays but those attributes combined mean we will pay over the odds.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
If, as touted, the price is £10m, I sincerely hope we walk away.

Kramaric (£5m) + Lansbury (£4m) would be far more sensible purchases and would cost less, combined, than McCormack.

Maybe we go for all 3?

Again, if (at any point) we have the money for a £10m McCormack, I can list numerous players I'd prefer a combination of that would be worth far less than £10m, including: Lansbury, Kramaric, Lascelles, Lindgard, Nick Powell, Cresswell, Byram, Harry Maguire, Jay Emmanuel Thomas, Steven Taylor, Guidetti, Vaz Te, Cleverly, etc, etc.

But I get your point. We have a rich, rich owner..

A proven goal scorer from the previous season, not 3 or 4 before, will cost us a fortune. He is one of only a few who did well and didnt get promoted so it's limited stock. He is their captain, main source of goals and all round best player. They may be fairly pants nowadays but those attributes combined mean we will pay over the odds.

Exactly.

Regardless, if he does join, I'll be the first cheering him on!

Talking of goalscorers, but slightly off topic, I get the feeling Watford will have quite a strike force next year; Deeney and Vydra will be formidable..
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
The way the leeds fans are acting over this is embarrassing. They must still think its 1999
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
The way the leeds fans are acting over this is embarrassing. They must still think its 1999

Take a trip to the city of Leeds, you'll realise why.


Seriously though, they're lucky they weren't relegated back to L1 last year. If they lose McCormack and don't invest wisely, they'll be relegated this year. Their fans need to be realistic; they've not been a giant club for a while, and a fading history is not much of a draw.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on July 01, 2014, 11:26:50 AM
We don't know if the fee is 10 million, this is only to be rumored, or what Sky Sports are batting about, plus other journalists. I very much doubt we are paying anything near 10 million for McCormack, more like 6-7 million. I think their off the wall owner is talking this transfer up, just so it doesn't make him look like an idiot after he said he won't be leaving. The latest from him is that he won't leave for less than 12 million. 
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
Quote from: Admin on July 01, 2014, 11:26:50 AM
We don't know if the fee is 10 million, this is only to be rumored, or what Sky Sports are batting about, plus other journalists. I very much doubt we are paying anything near 10 million for McCormack, more like 6-7 million. I think their off the wall owner is talking this transfer up, just so it doesn't make him look like an idiot after he said he won't be leaving. The latest from him is that he won't leave for less than 12 million. 

I've heard everything from £4m up to £10m. Could be anything couldn't it. Probably a promotion clause in there too.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
If we sign him, we'll never know the terms so let's be optimistic that he comes and stop fretting about the fee.
Title: Re:
Post by: Blanco on July 01, 2014, 11:45:24 AM
Lets hope he actually signs haha
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
If we sign him, we'll never know the terms so let's be optimistic that he comes and stop fretting about the fee.

"Fretting" is in every FFC fans DNA
It's a given!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on July 01, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
I'd rather pay £10m for someone who can score goals than £10m for someone like Ruiz who flops, or £12m for Mitroglou who doesn't even play. We need a proven goal scorer, which he is, we can afford £10m, just pay it and sign him up.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: WhiteJC on July 01, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
If we sign him, we'll never know the terms so let's be optimistic that he comes and stop fretting about the fee.

"Fretting" is in every FFC fans DNA
It's a given!

Fulham Fretting Club  064.gif
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 01, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on July 01, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
I'd rather pay £10m for someone who can score goals than £10m for someone like Ruiz who flops, or £12m for Mitroglou who doesn't even play. We need a proven goal scorer, which he is, we can afford £10m, just pay it and sign him up.
I agree with what you say but he has only really done it for one season, which is not proven in my book but i agree 10 million for a proven goalscorer with a good track record os well worth it
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on July 01, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on July 01, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
I'd rather pay £10m for someone who can score goals than £10m for someone like Ruiz who flops, or £12m for Mitroglou who doesn't even play. We need a proven goal scorer, which he is, we can afford £10m, just pay it and sign him up.
I agree with what you say but he has only really done it for one season, which is not proven in my book but i agree 10 million for a proven goalscorer with a good track record os well worth it

At least he has shown the ability is there to do it. We would also have a better squad behind him than he's had at Leeds.
Title: Re:
Post by: MJG on July 01, 2014, 01:03:08 PM
Been told by a Leeds fan I know that McCormack was at a medical centre yesterday having his medical done(has friend who works at centre) Can not confirm which club its for but also believes we have bid 8m final offer.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 01, 2014, 01:31:19 PM
We all are waiting for the news that he has gone somewhere else and Fulham were never really in with a chance. Yet here I am, for some reason hoping.  :012: 090.gif
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on July 01, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
The way the leeds fans are acting over this is embarrassing. They must still think its 1999

Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. Who do Leeds seriously think they are these days? I don't know if they have noticed, but we just spent 13 years in the top division and had a major European Cup final. What have you done Leeds?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: win-dup on July 01, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Leeds have a history of ugly football first orchestrated by Don Revie then Jack  Charlton. We mostly missed them, being in division Z at the height of their thuggishness and it was our blue chums down the road who actually sorted them out.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: CorkCity on July 01, 2014, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: win-dup on July 01, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Leeds have a history of ugly football first orchestrated by Don Revie then Jack  Charlton. We mostly missed them, being in division Z at the height of their thuggishness and it was our blue chums down the road who actually sorted them out.

Big Jack never managed Leeds.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on July 01, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on July 01, 2014, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on July 01, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
If we sign him, we'll never know the terms so let's be optimistic that he comes and stop fretting about the fee.

"Fretting" is in every FFC fans DNA
It's a given!

Fulham Fretting Club  064.gif

Very good

There's only one F in "Fretting!"
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK

How do you know this?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Ordar on July 01, 2014, 05:08:43 PM
Hope this gets done. Having a proven Championship goalscorer is practically a requirement these days to get out of the division.

He seemed like a great leader at Leeds aswell as a great player. Can never have too many leaders on the pitch
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on July 01, 2014, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 01, 2014, 05:08:43 PM
Hope this gets done. Having a proven Championship goalscorer is practically a requirement these days to get out of the division.

He seemed like a great leader at Leeds aswell as a great player. Can never have too many leaders on the pitch

Even if we do sign him, I feel that another striker is in order. Hope we go for the Croatian as well, gives us options in what will be a long season.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK

How do you know this?


Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MJG on July 01, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK

How do you know this?


Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.
I wonder if my mates mate is your mates mate of a mate?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 01, 2014, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 01, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 01, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Has the news broken that Newcastle/West Ham/Stoke have hijacked our deal yet?

It's a done deal. 4 year contract. No hijacking here! #ITK

How do you know this?


Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.
I wonder if my mates mate is your mates mate of a mate?
064.gif or a mate of your mates mate that's a mate of my mates mate mate. Oh what a tangled web we weave
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: gang on July 01, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
or Billy no mates mate.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: jmh on July 01, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Because the owner isn't going to spend his whole 4 billion on transfer fees; there is presumably a budget available for signings, and if you spend too much of that budget on one player then you run the risk that you don't have the money for other needs, which we certainly have. 

That being said, if we do sign him, I certainly hope he has all the success in the world.  Can anyone give me an idea of what kind of player he is?  Other than "he scores goals," which was basically all anyone could say or felt they needed to say about David Healy and he was terrible.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: ByTheRiver on July 01, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
MAAAAAAAAATTTE, have we signed him yet? I'm getting a squeaky bum. I think it'll be an excellent signing.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: RaySmith on July 01, 2014, 06:53:58 PM
Quote from: jmh on July 01, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Because the owner isn't going to spend his whole 4 billion on transfer fees; there is presumably a budget available for signings, and if you spend too much of that budget on one player then you run the risk that you don't have the money for other needs, which we certainly have. 

That being said, if we do sign him, I certainly hope he has all the success in the world.  Can anyone give me an idea of what kind of player he is?  Other than "he scores goals," which was basically all anyone could say or felt they needed to say about David Healy and he was terrible.

Healy never did it in the league though, did he? Sanchez signed him because of his success under him for N.I.

But McC has scored goals in this league just last season.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Riversider on July 01, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
I'll tell you who is a proven goal scorer at this level and we could sign him for nothing !
Andrew Johnson has been released by QPR today, wouldn't mind him in our squad.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
I'll tell you who is a proven goal scorer at this level and we could sign him for nothing !
Andrew Johnson has been released by QPR today, wouldn't mind him in our squad.

Aaron Hughes released too
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 01, 2014, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 01, 2014, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
I'll tell you who is a proven goal scorer at this level and we could sign him for nothing !
Andrew Johnson has been released by QPR today, wouldn't mind him in our squad.

Aaron Hughes released too

Hughes: maybe.

Johnson: no.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: K33NY on July 01, 2014, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
I'll tell you who is a proven goal scorer at this level and we could sign him for nothing !
Andrew Johnson has been released by QPR today, wouldn't mind him in our squad.

proven goalscorer? he has scored 2 goals for QPR.... and there is a long while ago he was young and scoring for Palace in Championship no thanks.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: jmh on July 01, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on July 01, 2014, 06:53:58 PM
Quote from: jmh on July 01, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: Pluto on June 30, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Christ why is everyone getting in so much bother about the fee?! We have an owner who has 4 Billion! Who cares if it's 8m or 10?!
Because the owner isn't going to spend his whole 4 billion on transfer fees; there is presumably a budget available for signings, and if you spend too much of that budget on one player then you run the risk that you don't have the money for other needs, which we certainly have. 

That being said, if we do sign him, I certainly hope he has all the success in the world.  Can anyone give me an idea of what kind of player he is?  Other than "he scores goals," which was basically all anyone could say or felt they needed to say about David Healy and he was terrible.

Healy never did it in the league though, did he? Sanchez signed him because of his success under him for N.I.

But McC has scored goals in this league just last season.
Had a couple of seasons in double figures for Preston North End, but yeah, that's probably why Sanchez wanted to bring him in.  Anyway I'm not saying McCormack is Healy, I'm just saying "he scores goals" doesn't tell me much about him.  Andrew Johnson scores (well, scored) goals, Miroslav Klose scores goals, and Frank Lampard scores goals, but just knowing that they all score (or scored) goals doesn't tell you much about their styles of play.  Does he find space by making late runs into the box like Dempsey?  Does he run behind the defense like Darren Bent before he got old?  Does he physically compete with defenders like Zamora?  That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: ByTheRiver on July 01, 2014, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 01, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
I'll tell you who is a proven goal scorer at this level and we could sign him for nothing !
Andrew Johnson has been released by QPR today, wouldn't mind him in our squad.

As useful as Johnson was running the channels and stuff in his time with us, he missed A LOT of games, didn't really score hatfuls and, frankly, that was 4 years ago. He had one high scoring season for Palace, of which 9 were pens, 6 years ago.

At this point, McCormack is miles ahead in being the man to lead the promotion charge.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 01, 2014, 08:24:05 PM

Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.
[/quote]

And you critisize my posts sometimes.   Well Well Well   :0)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on July 02, 2014, 04:49:01 PM
Ross Mccormack will cost us 7 million, not the 10-12 million that is being rumored by the stupid owner and fans. Medical and personal terms are pending.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: PeterFFC on July 02, 2014, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Admin on July 02, 2014, 04:49:01 PM
Ross Mccormack will cost us 7 million, not the 10-12 million that is being rumored by the stupid owner and fans. Medical and personal terms are pending.

Thanks for the update. Would still be reluctant to pay £7m but better than £10m.
What's your source?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: Admin on July 02, 2014, 04:49:01 PM
Ross Mccormack will cost us 7 million, not the 10-12 million that is being rumored by the stupid owner and fans. Medical and personal terms are pending.

Do you know if this lessens the likelihood of signing Kamaric?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 02, 2014, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 01, 2014, 08:24:05 PM

Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.

And you critisize my posts sometimes.   Well Well Well   :0)
[/quote]

A one liner on a continuous thread as opposed to a thread made up of your alcohol induced droning... ;)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 02, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 02, 2014, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 01, 2014, 08:24:05 PM

Mate of a mate, who once had a mate, whose mate knows McCormacks mate's...mate.

And you critisize my posts sometimes.   Well Well Well   :0)

A one liner on a continuous thread as opposed to a thread made up of your alcohol induced droning... ;)
[/quote]


That's where you're wrong, a couple have been 'alcohol induced'.
But most are written either stone cold sober, or stoned on a concoction of, Percocets, acid, sellotape, amphetamine's, Purple Hearts and Irn Bru........which may be more worrying.

Anway lots of people when drunk get obnoxious, punchy, wife hitters, gamblers, sleepy or watch back-to-back episodes of Noddy whilst eating copious amounts of fried egg sandwiches, while I just harmlessly type gobblydegook in a free society and they're nearly always Fulham related + they can't be that bad if you always seem to get to the end of them.  They certainly make me chuckle.    This is the noise I make when I'm typing:   Chuckle, Chuckle, Chuckle.

At least you're not as obnoxious as that other goon who kept 'stalking me'  but seems to have dissapeared since I gave him 500 lines.

Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 02, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
Rumours around that west ham have matched our bid, not sure how true just a few things on good ole twitter for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rusty shackleford on July 02, 2014, 11:12:45 PM
Sure everyone and their mothers seen that one coming. I even called it in this thread
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 02, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
One of the many problems with Twitter is that something that was mentioned some time ago is suddenly mentioned again as news. The West Ham link was posted days ago. Now West Ham fans are picking it up. Which is why I haven't bothered much about this signing. If it happens, hurrah, but all the rubbish by Leeds fans on Twitter and West Ham fans leaves a bad taste. It is dragging on too long.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: TWFL on July 03, 2014, 12:19:34 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 02, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
One of the many problems with Twitter is that something that was mentioned some time ago is suddenly mentioned again as news. The West Ham link was posted days ago. Now West Ham fans are picking it up. Which is why I haven't bothered much about this signing. If it happens, hurrah, but all the rubbish by Leeds fans on Twitter and West Ham fans leaves a bad taste. It is dragging on too long.
Exactly. When it comes to a deal and there's this much transparency, it makes me doubt it. Fulham are very very opaque, look at the Voser/Hutchinson deals, it doesn't seem right that everyone knows so much about it. Having said that, it could all be coming from the Leeds end..
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on July 03, 2014, 12:25:27 AM
It could be smoke, while we quietly sign Rhodes
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: YankeeJim on July 03, 2014, 12:50:51 AM
I was looking at McCormack's stats and what jumped out for me is that he has only made 11 appearances for Scotland since 2008. Seems like too few for a goal scoring machine or does Scotland have an abundance of such players?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 03, 2014, 08:19:59 AM
Wouldn't worry anymore, West Ham hijacking the deal according to a Hammers pal
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 03, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
how many strikers do West Ham want.

Our deals (if they are happening) when they become public knowledge always take so long, no wonder we get gazumped.

If they get him, then lets look for similar. Onwards and Upwards as they say.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 03, 2014, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: TWFL on July 03, 2014, 12:19:34 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 02, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
One of the many problems with Twitter is that something that was mentioned some time ago is suddenly mentioned again as news. The West Ham link was posted days ago. Now West Ham fans are picking it up. Which is why I haven't bothered much about this signing. If it happens, hurrah, but all the rubbish by Leeds fans on Twitter and West Ham fans leaves a bad taste. It is dragging on too long.
Exactly. When it comes to a deal and there's this much transparency, it makes me doubt it. Fulham are very very opaque, look at the Voser/Hutchinson deals, it doesn't seem right that everyone knows so much about it. Having said that, it could all be coming from the Leeds end..
I'm sure most of this information is coming from Cellino at Leeds trying to hike up price by throwing every conceivable club into the mix. This is a player that no one made a bid for in January when he wanted away and Leeds owners looking for cash. Now, suddenly there are 7-8 clubs all chasing him for £10m yet apparently no one is is bidding for Rhodes. Cellino is broke, he has shut the players canteen down so players have to bring their own lunch, rumours that players will now be charged for washing their kit (matchday fee) if true sound even more desperate. Not one player that has come to the end of their contract has shown any inclination to re-sign with Leeds and the appointment of a nobody manager on £125k rolling 1 year contract says everything. Where he is going to get the money to buy Elland Road which he grandly announced on takeover beats me. This guy should never have been allowed to buy a club with his financial and legal records, why league caved in after saying no initially I do not know. All they did was replace one set of crooks with another.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MJG on July 03, 2014, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 03, 2014, 08:19:59 AM
Wouldn't worry anymore, West Ham hijacking the deal according to a Hammers pal
He's wrong
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: cmg on July 03, 2014, 09:08:58 AM
Absolutely. Anyone who does business with a bloke like Cellino deserves everything they get.

It's not really funny.

"I'm funny? How? I'm funny like a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? How am I funny?"
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 03, 2014, 09:12:18 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 03, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
how many strikers do West Ham want.

Our deals (if they are happening) when they become public knowledge always take so long, no wonder we get gazumped.

If they get him, then lets look for similar. Onwards and Upwards as they say.

If he did go West Ham the guys an absolute goon. Why would a striker at 5 foot 7 or whatever go to a club that plays hoof ball to Andy Carroll.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: HillingdonFFC on July 03, 2014, 09:25:59 AM
Don't know if my West Ham mate is on the wind up but I can't find anything about them being interested in McCormack??, nothing on KUMB their main messageboard
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: FortCollinsFulham on July 03, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 03, 2014, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 03, 2014, 08:19:59 AM
Wouldn't worry anymore, West Ham hijacking the deal according to a Hammers pal
He's wrong

But it sounds like such a valid source!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 03, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
West Yorkshire Post says Fulham are still leading the race despite only offering 8 million of the 10 million Leeds want.

All smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fulham76 on July 03, 2014, 10:30:11 AM
If this deal happens, it happens. If it doesn't, we'll have to move on to the next one. I'm sure there's another Louis Saha type floating around out there somewhere for a couple of million. Our scouting team will just have to work a little harder to find him.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on July 03, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 03, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
West Yorkshire Post says Fulham are still leading the race despite only offering 8 million of the 10 million Leeds want.

All smoke and mirrors.

I've read that it's £8m + add ons for performance and promotion.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Full Metal Ham on July 03, 2014, 10:57:25 AM
Mccormack is definitely jumping ship. He signed his last contract with leeds on the 17th of august..



http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/386922/Leeds-Massimo-Cellino-sacks-Paddy-Kenny (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/386922/Leeds-Massimo-Cellino-sacks-Paddy-Kenny)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on July 03, 2014, 11:06:56 AM
Convinced this is going to fall through, dragging on to much for my liking, should have been done and dusted by now.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Riverside on July 03, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
I don't think this will happen until or unless Mitroglou is loaned out - and that has not happened yet

And may still not happen .

How many want to pay his wage after his last 6 months ?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Lighthouse on July 03, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
According to a Mirror Journalist, Fulham are unruffled by the statement and still expect to sign the player once Leeds bring in a replacement or two.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Neil D on July 03, 2014, 12:30:00 PM
According to the Guardian today, Paddy Kenny is the second-highest earner at Leeds on £10k a week. If so, it's not hard to envisage what is tempting McCormack to London.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Logicalman on July 03, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on July 03, 2014, 10:30:11 AM
If this deal happens, it happens. If it doesn't, we'll have to move on to the next one. I'm sure there's another Louis Saha type floating around out there somewhere for a couple of million. Our scouting team will just have to work a little harder to find him.

Perhaps we can get Roy back on a part-time scouting deal to supplement his England Team wage? He KNEW what a good player was, and had/has the contacts to find them.  :clap_hands:  Come On You Woy
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MasterHaynes on July 03, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
I really hope £8m is way off the mark, if it is I hope its not us. Giving any money to Cellino is bad, especilly the way he has fed the press all these stories to the press about interest and fees makes us look like mug is written across our foreheads
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: The Rock on July 03, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Am feeling very "meh" at this point on this. Mccormack, Rhodes, Nugent etc - they are all the similar and are all good for a solid 10-20 goals + in the Championship. I'd love if we signed Ross, but any way you slice it the price won't be cheap and feels full value. If he bags 20+ goals and we get promoted, it will be worth every penny spent. 
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: shnlwswlkr on July 03, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
Supposedly he has confirmed to family and friends that he is going to Fulham. Suuuuupposedly. Twitter rumours.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: jmh on July 03, 2014, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 03, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Am feeling very "meh" at this point on this. Mccormack, Rhodes, Nugent etc - they are all the similar and are all good for a solid 10-20 goals + in the Championship.
They aren't really.  Nugent is 29 and maybe doesn't have many more great years ahead of him, but seems a solid bet for double figures in the Championship.  McCormack is younger but has had inconsistent output; we'd be buying him at the peak of his value because he scored all those goals last year, but the year before that he scored just five.  Rhodes is much younger (three and a half years younger than McCormack, almost five years younger than Nugent) and, on top of that, seems a much better bet to outscore the other two; 51 goals in the Championship over the last two years blows either out of the water.  As a result, he's likely to be far more expensive than the other two (and his contract runs until 2017 so no help there), and discussing them as if they're comparable is unrealistic.

(For instance, transfermarkt puts Nugent's market value at £2.0M, McCormack's at £2.3M, and Rhodes's at £8.8M.) 
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: mungos beans on July 03, 2014, 05:01:42 PM
The Rock you go on facebook too much☺
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: TWFL on July 04, 2014, 11:40:22 PM
News out from the Guardian that Ross McCormack didn't show up to his flight that the club had booked for him to go to Italy for their pre-season. It continues...

Article here: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/04/ross-mccormack-leeds-pre-season-trip-no-show (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/04/ross-mccormack-leeds-pre-season-trip-no-show)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on July 06, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
according to twitter today, a few leeds fans went to his house for answers. plus one leeds fan found his house on rightmove and ross got in a spat with him because he pasted it on twitter. think his bridges are firmly burnt at leeds. nothing on his destination though
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Post by: Berserker on July 06, 2014, 06:40:11 PM
Oh dear, oh dear what a carry on.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on July 06, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: Berserker on July 06, 2014, 06:40:11 PM
Oh dear, oh dear what a carry on.
yes, you have to be a bit mentally disturbed to turn up to a players house
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Nero on July 06, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently according to the papers Leeds are after Becchio from Norwich getting an old hero back to appease the fans before they sell seems like to me.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: fulhamben on July 06, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 06, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently according to the papers Leeds are after Becchio from Norwich getting an old hero back to appease the fans before they sell seems like to me.
yep, I think his and leeds actions mean only one thing. question is, did we drop the ball and let other clubs into the mix.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 06, 2014, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 06, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
according to twitter today, a few leeds fans went to his house for answers. plus one leeds fan found his house on rightmove and ross got in a spat with him because he pasted it on twitter. think his bridges are firmly burnt at leeds. nothing on his destination though

If they get 8 million for him and you're a player lined up to replace him, would you want to go anywhere near that place now? If you did anyway I suppose.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: DevonFFC on July 06, 2014, 10:12:31 PM
Rumours flying about on twitter we have had a 10mil bid rejected, can we give this guy a miss now. 10mil for a one season wonder is a jole


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Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Admin on July 06, 2014, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 06, 2014, 10:12:31 PM
Rumours flying about on twitter we have had a 10mil bid rejected, can we give this guy a miss now. 10mil for a one season wonder is a jole


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Sky Sports now saying that there was NO 10 million quid bid, and that McCormack has been granted extra leave, expected to return to Leeds on Wednesday, which we all know he won't.

http://www.teamtalk.com/fulham/9374066/- (http://www.teamtalk.com/fulham/9374066/-)
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Gloss White on July 08, 2014, 06:55:00 AM
Just on Sky - £11 million fee agreed with Fulham
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 07:04:28 AM
joke at that price go for Rhodes instead
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: bulgariawhite on July 08, 2014, 07:05:33 AM
Incredible, hope this isn't another waste. Wow 11 mil unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on July 08, 2014, 07:08:14 AM
OMG Your'e right ------ far too much money IMHO
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 07:09:13 AM
4 or 5 million to much for a striker that has had one stand out season. but it shows intent which is a good thing i guess. Hopefully it is a structured deal, i.e. a lump sum, with more based on goals and promotion etc.

Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Fernhurst on July 08, 2014, 07:12:48 AM
Who's doubting the commitment of our owner now?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Bedford White on July 08, 2014, 07:15:58 AM
Why worry about how much he cost, £11m is loose change to Khan.

It's the statement of intent which every man and is dog has been calling for. We've just offered on one of last seasons leading strikers, and as Thatcher once said, rejoice in that news!

Besides its a reported fee and not one of us actually know the real sums involved.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:16:14 AM
We are paying double for what he is worth.... A player that is not even a starter for his country, and had one good season at Leeds. Well done Fulham for an awful piece of business.

That will end our spending as well, unless we sell anyone otherwise we will be hit the FFP next season and possible point deduction if we don't get promoted.  

It does show intent, but I think that will mean we will be selling Mitro and Trotta / Dembele
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 07:18:12 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:16:14 AM
We are paying double for what he is worth.... A player that is not even a starter for his country, and had one good season at Leeds. Well done Fulham for an awful piece of business.

That will end our spending as well, unless we sell anyone otherwise we will be hit the FFP next season and possible point deduction if we don't get promoted.  
The championships FFP is my main worry, if we don't get up and breach it we start on minus points. However if the deal is structured based on goals and promotion i guess we wont breach the rules.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Bedford White on July 08, 2014, 07:19:21 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:16:14 AM
We are paying double for what he is worth.... A player that is not even a starter for his country, and had one good season at Leeds. Well done Fulham for an awful piece of business.

That will end our spending as well, unless we sell anyone otherwise we will be hit the FFP next season and possible point deduction if we don't get promoted.  

It's Khans money, and you have now way of knowing whether we'll sign more players. Why concern yourself with things you can't control, just enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: bulgariawhite on July 08, 2014, 07:23:21 AM
Our current strike force of Ruiz, Mitro, McCormack value £33mil - How many goals will we get for that?
Nice thing to boast about though lol
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:25:20 AM
Khans money but Fulham as a club get punished.... We quite simply have to sell before we can buy now. That being said if we keep all our players and only add McCormack then we will have a very strong side for next season.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: RaySmith on July 08, 2014, 07:29:17 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:16:14 AM
We are paying double for what he is worth.... A player that is not even a starter for his country, and had one good season at Leeds. Well done Fulham for an awful piece of business.

That will end our spending as well, unless we sell anyone otherwise we will be hit the FFP next season and possible point deduction if we don't get promoted.  

It does show intent, but I think that will mean we will be selling Mitro and Trotta / Dembele

It won't be an awful bit of business if he scores the goals to get us promotion, and it doesn't necessarily mean we won't sign anyone else.

You can never guarantee that any signing will work out -it's always a bit of a gamble - but I think he's a good signing - someone recently proven at scoring at this level.

Well done to the club for making sure we got him, if we really have -it would have been  very disappointing if it had fallen through.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 07:31:31 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on July 08, 2014, 07:25:20 AM
Khans money but Fulham as a club get punished.... We quite simply have to sell before we can buy now. That being said if we keep all our players and only add McCormack then we will have a very strong side for next season.
not sure we would have to sell to many if any but need to watch what we do in signings we make. if we structure deals then only the upfront cost is included or any add ons paid during the season (that would not include a clause on promotion as I understand it). As for a strong squad, i do think we look week in central midfield and at full back.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: RaySmith on July 08, 2014, 07:35:05 AM
Quote from: bulgariawhite on July 08, 2014, 07:23:21 AM
Our current strike force of Ruiz, Mitro, McCormack value £33mil - How many goals will we get for that?
Nice thing to boast about though lol

Pity we can't bring back Maurice Cook lol (he's your avatar isn't he?)

Ruiz will almost certainly leave, and Mitro - but it would make a good strike force if he stays - with young Woodrow as well.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: DevonFFC on July 08, 2014, 07:39:36 AM
Fulham agree McCormack deal
Last Updated: 07:23 08/07/14


Fulham have agreed a deal with Leeds United for their captain Ross McCormack, Sky Sports understands.

Sky Sports revealed last month that Fulham had made an opening bid of £5million for the 27-year-old striker, who was top scorer in the Championship last season with 29 goals.

Fulham returned to the table with a new bid last week, and following lengthy negotiations, the two clubs have now agreed a deal believed to be worth around £11million.

McCormack will now sign a four-year deal with the Cottagers, ahead of linking up with them at their pre-season training camp in his native Scotland.

Leeds owner Massimo Cellino had insisted he did not want to sell McCormack, but he finally agreed to sell in the early hours of Tuesday morning.


It does believed to be around 11m, this doesn't mean that it can all be bonus, percentages and partial payments


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Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: PeterFFC on July 08, 2014, 07:41:23 AM
Contract will take him until 32 won't it?
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: twang on July 08, 2014, 08:13:58 AM
Even if it's an £11m deal, we have no idea of how the payment is structured. Leeds has more to gain than we have to lose if the transfer fee is reported as as high as possible.

Let's say we pay £6-8m with the rest as bonus if we get promoted. Then it suddenly seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: MJG on July 08, 2014, 08:16:46 AM
£8M plus extras apparently. Quite heavy and can only hope the extras are promotion related and not goals related.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 08, 2014, 08:18:15 AM
Now we've got a recognised striker, it seems likely 1/2 of our current options will be off.

Mitrog+Moussa on loan, maybe? Trotta sale?

That'd leave Cauley, Hugo and Ross as our main options, with Bryan, Roberts and David as second-striker choices if injuries add-up.

EDIT: just noticed Twang's post below, we'd have Taggart as an option too. Giving us 4 players for 2 spaces - perfect..
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
I reckon Hugo will be off, altho as much as I am not a fan, he could potentially tear up the championship. he was never suited or capable for the prem in my mind
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: twang on July 08, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
I reckon Hugo will be off, altho as much as I am not a fan, he could potentially tear up the championship. he was never suited or capable for the prem in my mind

If Hugo is sold, the club has ballsed up big time. Rodallega, Woodrow and McCormack plus one of Taggart, Dembele and Trotta would have us well set on striking options.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 08, 2014, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
I reckon Hugo will be off, altho as much as I am not a fan, he could potentially tear up the championship. he was never suited or capable for the prem in my mind

The thing with Hugo is that he hit the post or bar so many bleedin' times! If he had a tad more luck (or a tiny bit better accuracy) he'd have been a great scorer for us..

I personally think he's a good influence on the squad - passionate, never gives up, works hard, and seems to care about performing well - but I understand the criticism from some that he really hasn't scored enough goals..
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 08:38:21 AM
I see your point Craven, however for me it hasn't just been bad luck, he has never really been prolific. He had a decent season for Wigan, think it was 11 goals.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Craven Mad on July 08, 2014, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 08:38:21 AM
I see your point Craven, however for me it hasn't just been bad luck, he has never really been prolific. He had a decent season for Wigan, think it was 11 goals.

Fair point. His best premier league haul - according to Transfermarkt - was just 10 in 38 (2009/10). So even worse than your guess!

I still like the bloke, but strikers will be judged by goals and not by personality.. Shame he can't get points for effort!
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Sammyffc on July 08, 2014, 08:47:17 AM
Graeme bailey ( sky Sports ) - I understand ross mccormack rejected premier league interest to sign for fulham - clearly impressed by them
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: Northern Cottager on July 08, 2014, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: Sammyffc on July 08, 2014, 08:47:17 AM
Graeme bailey ( sky Sports ) - I understand ross mccormack rejected premier league interest to sign for fulham - clearly impressed by them

We are class.
Title: Re: Ross Mccormack Update
Post by: westcliff white on July 08, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
one of the premier league interest was west ham, but they have a load of strikers and play long ball. Ross will not suit long ball.