I have deliberately made no comment after Wednesdays depressing performance but even more depressing, is the sense of panic from this and I guess other Fulham forums. I take a different view from most of you, except to say that I, like most of you, am not totally convinced by Felix, however, he is Fulham manager and for that reason, I will support him whilst he is in the job. You may call that misguided and foolhardy but that is my way. There is nothing I, or anyone else can do about it, except, stop attending games, that is our only weapon. I myself, will continue to attend games, because I think paniciking will lead us along an even rockier path.
I don't think this just stems from Wednesday night Peabody. Many have very short memories, in that most of our fans have been subject to poor football, crazy decisions, lack of investment and most of all wins for the best part of 2 seasons now. I know it's not all about winning, but it does become very depressing when you expect things to improve, but instead they get considerably worse. We didn't just get relegated last season, we gave up our Premier League status by being complete fools, which to most of us was a very bitter pill to swallow, something that won't just go away over night. To add to our misery, we then have an owner who gave us all the chat about how investment isn't an issue, only for us to seemingly penny pinch again, and end up 2nd from bottom of the Championship after 3 games.
Yes it early doors, but I also think people are being a little hard on the fans not to expect them to be pee'd off.
Im with you Peabody. Depressed and a bit dumfounded over felixs constant tinkering with the team . What he has really said with his team selection is that he doesn't really trust any of the kids to deliver results .
Apart from Burgess .
This division is full of teams who would be bottom half of the premiership, and away from home defend deep and hit you on the counter . They like playing against sides that have lots of possession , as we have seen already .
We don't look to turn teams over , and hit them on the break . This worries me bit
we need a Danny Murphy
You're misguided and foolhardy
Has any Fulham team ever lost three in a row at the start of any season? I am too lazy to check.
But the Project Fulham makes sense. We clearly have some very good and talented players. The only problem seems to be the need to change when no change appears to be needed. Let the partnerships on the pitch get used to each other. No player, young or old is ever going to gel with different players every game.
Still aiming for a 14th place finish. We need a tougher spine to the team. Or at least a more experienced one. Wednesday's selection baffled and upset many fans and the reason was plain to see. Plenty of good things but let some of the players get used to each other.
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
I have deliberately made no comment after Wednesdays depressing performance but even more depressing, is the sense of panic from this and I guess other Fulham forums. I take a different view from most of you, except to say that I, like most of you, am not totally convinced by Felix, however, he is Fulham manager and for that reason, I will support him whilst he is in the job. You may call that misguided and foolhardy but that is my way. There is nothing I, or anyone else can do about it, except, stop attending games, that is our only weapon. I myself, will continue to attend games, because I think paniciking will lead us along an even rockier path.
The idea that stopping attending games will change anything immediately or would actually happen en mass is misguided.
The implication that those who are not convinced by Felix should stop attending is unpleasant. We should all continue to support the club and the players.
And what can "I will support him whilst he is in the job" possibly mean? That you will give a loud cheer of "Well done Felix" as the team is announced with another four random changes? Or are you saving up all your abuse to turn on him the day he is sacked?
Why should a manager be immune from critical analysis?
Is it panicking to note that we don't have a settled formation, we don't have a settled team, that experienced players have been ostracised, we have weaknesses in key areas and those weaknesses are unlikely to be addressed in this transfer window? We saw how the team under Jol got into the habit of losing. This could be happening again and we should recognise that as early as possible and act. If we lose to Derby, Brentford and Cardiff, as we might easily do, then the time to act will probably have come.
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
I have deliberately made no comment after Wednesdays depressing performance but even more depressing, is the sense of panic from this and I guess other Fulham forums. I take a different view from most of you, except to say that I, like most of you, am not totally convinced by Felix, however, he is Fulham manager and for that reason, I will support him whilst he is in the job. You may call that misguided and foolhardy but that is my way. There is nothing I, or anyone else can do about it, except, stop attending games, that is our only weapon. I myself, will continue to attend games, because I think paniciking will lead us along an even rockier path.
Well said sir!
I really cannot see what getting rid of another manager would do?
I'm sticking by Felix as I believe he will get the team right and we will be fine.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
I have deliberately made no comment after Wednesdays depressing performance but even more depressing, is the sense of panic from this and I guess other Fulham forums. I take a different view from most of you, except to say that I, like most of you, am not totally convinced by Felix, however, he is Fulham manager and for that reason, I will support him whilst he is in the job. You may call that misguided and foolhardy but that is my way. There is nothing I, or anyone else can do about it, except, stop attending games, that is our only weapon. I myself, will continue to attend games, because I think paniciking will lead us along an even rockier path.
The idea that stopping attending games will change anything immediately or would actually happen en mass is misguided.
The implication that those who are not convinced by Felix should stop attending is unpleasant. We should all continue to support the club and the players.
And what can "I will support him whilst he is in the job" possibly mean? That you will give a loud cheer of "Well done Felix" as the team is announced with another four random changes? Or are you saving up all your abuse to turn on him the day he is sacked?
Why should a manager be immune from critical analysis?
Is it panicking to note that we don't have a settled formation, we don't have a settled team, that experienced players have been ostracised, we have weaknesses in key areas and those weaknesses are unlikely to be addressed in this transfer window. We saw how the team under Jol got into the habit of losing. This could be happening again and we should recognise that as early as possible and act. If we lose to Derby, Brentford and Cardiff, as we might easily do, then the time to act will probably have come.
I have quite clearly said that this is my way, I am not asking anyone to follow my way. What is it with you people, am I alone not allowed to express an opinion without being pilloried for it.
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I have quite clearly said that this is my way, I am not asking anyone to follow my way. What is it with you people, am I alone not allowed to express an opinion without being pilloried for it.
What is this weird view of some on this site that they expect to be able to express their opinion but that then not have anyone respond to it?
Or is it that only agreement is acceptable?
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Mr. P I'm with you 100%.
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Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I have quite clearly said that this is my way, I am not asking anyone to follow my way. What is it with you people, am I alone not allowed to express an opinion without being pilloried for i[/t
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Or is it that only agreement is acceptable?
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
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Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I have quite clearly said that this is my way, I am not asking anyone to follow my way. What is it with you people, am I alone not allowed to express an opinion without being pilloried for it.
What is this weird view of some on this site that they expect to be able to express their opinion but that then not have anyone respond to it?
Or is it that only agreement is acceptable?
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
:plus one:
Basically his entire view means, "don't question Felix". Blind faith, I suppose.
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Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I have quite clearly said that this is my way, I am not asking anyone to follow my way. What is it with you people, am I alone not allowed to express an opinion without being pilloried for it.
What is this weird view of some on this site that they expect to be able to express their opinion but that then not have anyone respond to it?
Or is it that only agreement is acceptable?
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
:plus one:
Basically his entire view means, "don't question Felix". Blind faith, I suppose.
Where have I said that?
After a comment I made yesterday I had no replies. Does that mean everyone agreed? In fairness everyone is entitled to an opinion and we all see things slightly differently. We need a win to cheer about.
Don't worry Andy S, when I say someting it often kills a thread.
I sort of agree with you Peabody, although I will vent my frustrations from time to time.
The problem with Magath is (and I think he is only able to operate as the owner allows) since he has been here he communicates very poorly, we now have these letters to the fans in his name clearly written by someone in PR.
He has not inspired the team to perform well and look like they know what they are trying to achieve.
There is no sign of a first team regardless of whether we agree with it and there is no sign of there ever being one.
While I was all for a mass clear out he has chosen too many youngsters (under 21's) in each game.
He may have his hands tied regards signing new established players but, Fotheringham, please!
So looking in from the outside it looks like the madness continues.
I say lets see where the team is after the window has closed and another 2 games have been played. I'm not confident it will have improved much but I live in hope.
Guys I said this in an earlier thread, we are all entitled to give our opinions.
Times are tense at the moment, and we may not agree with each other, but the whole point of a forum, is to voice our opinions. I think the only thing we have all agreed on recently was the superb performances young Hyndman has given recently, but I can't recall another time when we have all agreed on something. This is great, having different opinions makes great thread's and discussions.
Peabody is giving his opinion, and trying to remain optimistic (like others on the board ), the negative mass is growing, but whilst FM is still in charge there is nothing none of us can do. Except support the boys of course, we don't have to support the manager, but we sure as heck need to give these young players our support.
I think those that are panicking have good reason's for doing so, hopefully Khan and co, are being correctly advised as to the next course of action.... in the meantime we must wait.
It is rather a clever, dismissive trick to label those who are questioning and criticising Magath as `panicking'.
The point is that a decision may have to be made at some stage given the results. The question is given the decisions being made by the manager and the performances are there enough positive signs to keep faith with the manager? What if we have no points from the first six games, for example?
The longer the decision is left (if it needs to be made) the further behind we will be in terms of points, the lower the confidence of the players and the more they will have got into the habit of losing and hence the more difficult it will be to turn matters around.
I think the original post is an entirely reasonable opinion but unfortunately not one I quite share.
before the last game it seemed to me we were heading on the right lines. But with the vast number of changes and the lack of understanding that we need more physical prescence, especially in the center of midfield, getting a settled side and reflecting what he actually achieved last season, has left me completely turning 180 degrees and thinking it would be better to change now and quickly before any more damage is inevitably done. I have bsolutely no faith in Felix anymore, in the same way I had none in Jol. The end is inevitable so make the change now. I do not support the current manager, but i do support and will continue to support the team.
I will always 'get behind the lads' on match day, and will always attend every game i can physically manage to go to as well. I can never jeer them, that is not my style at all, but do feel this is the correct forum to vent ones spleen.
I do also happen to think the greater problem is the board and CEO are totally to blame for not selecting suitable managers. And I would like to see them relieved of their duties ASAP!
But to reiterate, I do understand the OP and can see the logic, I just don't agree we need to 'support' felix any longer (however 10 wins in a row would see me change my mind and probably retract everything but don't hold your breath for that).
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
Mr. Peabody, you must consider the poster in this case. He does this to nearly everyone. He will take you to task on anything you post so, I find the best course with posters who serially engage this way is to ignore their comments and keep posting. You don't have to respond....unless you feel like debating.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
It is rather a clever, dismissive trick to label those who are questioning and criticising Magath as `panicking'.
The point is that a decision may have to be made at some stage given the results. The question is given the decisions being made by the manager and the performances are there enough positive signs to keep faith with the manager? What if we have no points from the first six games, for example?
The longer the decision is left (if it needs to be made) the further behind we will be in terms of points, the lower the confidence of the players and the more they will have got into the habit of losing and hence the more difficult it will be to turn matters around.
Good post
I think panicking is when results go against you, even though real progress and method could be observed but that needed just a little longer to mature, IMO that is what happened with rene, the victim of panicking.
What we have with felix is poor results, poor descision making, no idea of the best 11, a team that is too small and lacking leadership, and since he joined a continual chopping and changing. In fact the performance at Stoke was a disgrace and that had to be down to him for all the reasons we have discussed before.
I think replacing felix would not be panic but a strategic move in the right direction, not a panic but a considered decision, and in the end doing what is inevitable anyway so better done now.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
Why, do you have any? Kittens I mean. Like I say, you seem like a bloke who takes himself far to seriously.
Do we really think a manager who has won three german league titles with two different clubs is clueless.
Do we really think the championship is tougher than the top league in germany,
Yes I think he should play what he thinks his strongest team is at the moment,for one reason only and that is to stop himself being hounded out his job.
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 22, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
Mr. Peabody, you must consider the poster in this case. He does this to nearly everyone. He will take you to task on anything you post so, I find the best course with posters who serially engage this way is to ignore their comments and keep posting. You don't have to respond....unless you feel like debating.
This is demonstrably an inaccurate statement if you review my posts (even after being wisely toned down from your original post since deleted) and an unbecoming personal attack.
Quote from: premFlem on August 22, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
Do we really think a manager who has won three german league titles with two different clubs is clueless.
Do we really think the championship is tougher than the top league in germany,
Yes I think he should play what he thinks his strongest team is at the moment,for one reason only and that is to stop himself being hounded out his job.
Good post and at face value sound a very reasonable argument
BUT
It isn't what he did do before, it what he is doing now and whether we feel he is going in the correct direction. There are many instances where a manager may be extremely successful in one situation but not in another. I do not doubt his knowledge, but his ability to apply it to Fulham seems to be questionable and so many players in so many games, is poor, AND he was brought in to save us last season and he wasn't even close, in fact the biggest games V stoke and Hull were total shambles stuff.
I have no confidence in him any more.
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
Why, do you have any? Kittens I mean. Like I say, you seem like a bloke who takes himself far to seriously.
So rather than being prepared to discuss your opinion you choose instead resort to personal abuse.
Great! A great contribution to making this a friendly place to offer and discuss opinions?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
T, do you have any? Kittens I mean. Like I say, you seem like a bloke who takes himself far to t.
So rather than being prepared to discuss your opinion you choose instead resort to personal abuse.
Great! A great contribution to making this a friendly place to offer and discuss opinions?
Pot calling the kettle etc. I would normally debate but not with someone who comes across so hostile.
There are plenty of reasons why fans should and do boycott games but boycotting because the manager isn't good enough is not one of them. If people wanted to boycott going to games because of Shad Khan then that's fine, I'd support that, but the attendance makes little difference to Felix Magath's choice of line up. Further, as I'm, a paid up season ticket holder (as many others are) then the club already has my money for the season.
Quote from: nose on August 22, 2014, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: premFlem on August 22, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
Do we really think a manager who has won three german league titles with two different clubs is clueless.
Do we really think the championship is tougher than the top league in germany,
Yes I think he should play what he thinks his strongest team is at the moment,for one reason only and that is to stop himself being hounded out his job.
Good post and at face value sound a very reasonable argument
BUT
It isn't what he did do before, it what he is doing now and whether we feel he is going in the correct direction. There are many instances where a manager may be extremely successful in one situation but not in another. I do not doubt his knowledge, but his ability to apply it to Fulham seems to be questionable and so many players in so many games, is poor, AND he was brought in to save us last season and he wasn't even close, in fact the biggest games V stoke and Hull were total shambles stuff.
I have no confidence in him any more.
Quote from: nose on August 22, 2014, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: premFlem on August 22, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
Do we really think a manager who has won three german league titles with two different clubs is clueless.
Do we really think the championship is tougher than the top league in germany,
Yes I think he should play what he thinks his strongest team is at the moment,for one reason only and that is to stop himself being hounded out his job.
Good post and at face value sound a very reasonable argument
BUT
It isn't what he did do before, it what he is doing now and whether we feel he is going in the correct direction. There are many instances where a manager may be extremely successful in one situation but not in another. I do not doubt his knowledge, but his ability to apply it to Fulham seems to be questionable and so many players in so many games, is poor, AND he was brought in to save us last season and he wasn't even close, in fact the biggest games V stoke and Hull were total shambles stuff.
I have no confidence in him any more.
what he has achieved shows he is capable, at this point it gets complicated so forget Rene, when felix came in the squad was demoralised, poorly trained and unfit to the the extent I believe probably no manager in the world with the games left could of turned it around
You can't look at decisions in the macro, like "This would be our fourth manager in 10 months and Fulham would look like idiots."
We already look like idiots. A 13-year Prem club somehow got relegated in one of the worst seasons ever in terms of the bottom half of the Prem. It was galling how stupid it was.
So no, I'm not going to blindly support our manager. He's a loon. The problem is the club has shown no ability to make a correct hire, not that dismissing people has been the wrong decision. We waited well too long on Jol, and look what that got us.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PMQuote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PMThis is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
I've never managed to get the posting pictures of cute kittens to work on here, or posting any photos actually. Tried posting pictures of the legendary Basement Cat , didn't work though
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
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Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
T, do you have any? Kittens I mean. Like I say, you seem like a bloke who takes himself far to t.
So rather than being prepared to discuss your opinion you choose instead resort to personal abuse.
Great! A great contribution to making this a friendly place to offer and discuss opinions?
Pot calling the kettle etc. I would normally debate but not with someone who comes across so hostile.
My posts are not hostile. They are nowhere near the hostility of a radio phone-in or a piece of tabloid journalism or even many a letter to a local paper. They are about as hostile as a school essay. Any hostility is in your reading of them merely because they raise issues with your opinions. Just read them as though they are written by someone raising an eyebrow.
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Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
I've never managed to get the posting pictures of cute kittens to work on here, or posting any photos actually. Tried posting pictures of the legendary Basement Cat , didn't work though
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTldAoCvgbm-08hbfZ_dAWIuePBqUJJzOBIr9l0-JO9Kmwk37WXsw)
1. Go to Preview.
2. Click on the Insert Image Icon (second row, under `B' for bold) which will insert [ img] [ /img] but without the spaces after the `['.
3. Right click on image selecting Copy image URL.
4. Left click between the image brackets
5. Right click between the image brackets selecting Paste.
i don't know anymore, i just have to see what happens.
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Quote from: Peabody on August 22, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
I've never managed to get the posting pictures of cute kittens to work on here, or posting any photos actually. Tried posting pictures of the legendary Basement Cat , didn't work though
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTldAoCvgbm-08hbfZ_dAWIuePBqUJJzOBIr9l0-JO9Kmwk37WXsw)
1. Go to Preview.
2. Click on insert image icon (second row, under `B' for bold ( or just type in (http://) ).
3. Right click on image selecting Copy image URL.
4. Left click between (http://and)
5. Right click between (http://and) selecting paste.
064.gif well that was awkward to follow up on. 064.gif
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
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Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 22, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
This is a messageboard. Posters should believe in their opinions and be prepared and able to defend
them.
Why, is it a debating chamber?. Some of you take yourselves to seriously
If it is not about debate what is a messageboard about Fulham FC for?
Just posting pictures of cute kittens?
T, do you have any? Kittens I mean. Like I say, you seem like a bloke who takes himself far to t.
So rather than being prepared to discuss your opinion you choose instead resort to personal abuse.
Great! A great contribution to making this a friendly place to offer and discuss opinions?
Pot calling the kettle etc. I would normally debate but not with someone who comes across so hostile.
My posts are not hostile. They are nowhere near the hostility of a radio phone-in or a piece of tabloid journalism or even many a letter to a local paper. They are about as hostile as a school essay. Any hostility is in your reading of them merely because they raise issues with your opinions. Just read them as though they are written by someone raising an eyebrow.
Blimey, raising an eyebrow, you are talented, aren't you? You'll be telling your Roger Moore next.
