said on twitter - we still have Bryan Ruiz in a Black and White (with a bit of Grey) shirt - no takers, not even Tony and Guy wanted him
Hooray Bryan is staying
Good! Now for the love of Mike, let's use him and get the heck on with it.
we can play him in goal
For his and our sake, he has to play, certainly until the next window.
What about Mitro, has he gone?
Mitro is now an Olympiacos player
Quote from: Peabody on September 01, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
For his and our sake, he has to play, certainly until the next window.
What about Mitro, has he gone?
Back to Olympiakos
if ruiz were to play in this physical high tempo division, exactly where should the bundle of dynamite play on the pitch?
Where he played in the world cup?
I think it would be wonderful if we kept Ruiz in the way that I think he would play for us and give it his all. He's generally liked and a likeable fellow who we all would like to see do well, even if he previously didn't live up to expectations. He doesn't seem like he'd carry a grudge in still being with us.
But where on earth does he fit into this side? He's somewhere between not good enough for Felix and potentially outclasses the entire team when played properly.
His tackling will scare the crap out of the opponents midfield'
"Be careful of the one with the flicking hair, he's a real cruncher"
"I've heard that you just say Boooo and he's away"
"I've heard if you blow on him he's over"
"I've heard that he runs along side you, slightly backing away as if he were a mirror image"
"I've heard he scores a fantastic goal every 10-15 games, make sure it's not against us"
"But, he had a fantastic World Cup"
"Not from what I saw, he was OK"
"He couldn't cut it in the more sophisticated PS, how's he gone cope with us neanderthals
hacking at him from the first minute"
"He'll need to change his shorts every 5 minutes:
"ha ha ha UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Quote from: Berserker on September 01, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Where he played in the world cup?
But he can't play in Brazil every game
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Quote from: Berserker on September 01, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Where he played in the world cup?
But he can't play in Brazil every game
Wait, so you're saying he can only play well in the World Cup?
Quote from: HatterDon on September 02, 2014, 02:31:57 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Quote from: Berserker on September 01, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Where he played in the world cup?
But he can't play in Brazil every game
Wait, so you're saying he can only play well in the World Cup?
Noooooo
Some one asked where he would play
The reply was 'Where he played in the World Cup"
My response about not playing every game in Brazil meant
he would hsve to play them in England
I meant the position he played in the World Cup, it seems to suit him
He was great in Brazil, but the games were generally slower. I would love to see him playing for us again, if only to see if he really CAN cut it in England.
Quote from: Berserker on September 02, 2014, 07:26:26 AM
I meant the position he played in the World Cup, it seems to suit him
That means Magath will no doubt slot him in at left back.
It'd be like putting a lamb in with the wolves in this division. I wouldn't play him.
Don't be ridiculous. He's left footed so Penfold will obviously play him on the right of central defence.
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You think he's a Preston-type of player and you want to loan him out to Wolverhampton Wanderers?
Quote from: Reznor on September 02, 2014, 08:01:48 AM
It'd be like putting a lamb in with the wolves in this division. I wouldn't play him.
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:44:40 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 02, 2014, 02:31:57 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Quote from: Berserker on September 01, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Where he played in the world cup?
But he can't play in Brazil every game
Wait, so you're saying he can only play well in the World Cup?
Noooooo
Some one asked where he would play
The reply was 'Where he played in the World Cup"
My response about not playing every game in Brazil meant
he would hsve to play them in England
I got it.
And laughed.
Quote from: Airfix on September 02, 2014, 09:21:01 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:44:40 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 02, 2014, 02:31:57 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on September 02, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Quote from: Berserker on September 01, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Where he played in the world cup?
But he can't play in Brazil every game
Wait, so you're saying he can only play well in the World Cup?
Noooooo
Some one asked where he would play
The reply was 'Where he played in the World Cup"
My response about not playing every game in Brazil meant
he would hsve to play them in England
I got it.
And laughed.
I found it funny too. Amazes me how some people dont catch on sometimes. I thought it was quite obvious
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on September 01, 2014, 11:14:06 PM
said on twitter - we still have Bryan Ruiz in a Black and White (with a bit of Grey) shirt - no takers, not even Tony and Guy wanted him
:Haynes The Maestro:
Would it be fair to assume then that there wasn't a single offer for Ruiz? Keeping him wrapped in cotton wool until January would be completely pointless. If nobody wants him now why would they want him after another 3 months without any football?
I think the fact that he's still here should come as something of a wake up call to those hanging onto the belief that he will somehow be our salvation. Surely at this stage we'd have taken virtually any offer for him and yet, off the back of a decent performance at the world cup, no one has come calling.
As much as I'd loved to be proven wrong, the problems that made Ruiz an utter failure in the Premier League are just going to be exacerbated in the Championship. It's more physical and we have an even more insane manager at the helm right now who is just as unlikely to find the much fabled "Ruiz Golden Position" as Jol was.
Even if we do find the right position which affords Ruiz lots of time on the ball to work his magic without any danger of being tackled it's only going to work for a match or two before every opponent works out all they need to do is muscle him out of the game and the wheels fall off.
This isn't me being negative either, I just think we have better options in the squad already. It's a shame he didn't get his move.
Quote from: Peabody on September 01, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
For his and our sake, he has to play, certainly until the next window.
What about Mitro, has he gone?
on loan for the season, he's still our player
Doesn't the loan window open again soon for a month? If so, he'll probably go out on loan, again?
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on September 02, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
Doesn't the loan window open again soon for a month? If so, he'll probably go out on loan, again?
And we will probably end up paying 90% of his wages. It says a lot about him if nobody wanted to pick him up after having a couple of decent games in the world cup. They've obviously seen he has been a miserable failure here and figure he's not worth a serious transfer fee.
Quote from: Aaron on September 02, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Would it be fair to assume then that there wasn't a single offer for Ruiz? Keeping him wrapped in cotton wool until January would be completely pointless. If nobody wants him now why would they want him after another 3 months without any football?
I think the fact that he's still here should come as something of a wake up call to those hanging onto the belief that he will somehow be our salvation. Surely at this stage we'd have taken virtually any offer for him and yet, off the back of a decent performance at the world cup, no one has come calling.
As much as I'd loved to be proven wrong, the problems that made Ruiz an utter failure in the Premier League are just going to be exacerbated in the Championship. It's more physical and we have an even more insane manager at the helm right now who is just as unlikely to find the much fabled "Ruiz Golden Position" as Jol was.
Even if we do find the right position which affords Ruiz lots of time on the ball to work his magic without any danger of being tackled it's only going to work for a match or two before every opponent works out all they need to do is muscle him out of the game and the wheels fall off.
This isn't me being negative either, I just think we have better options in the squad already. It's a shame he didn't get his move.
Yes, Ruiz has been tried time and again in different positions over a three year period by different Fulham managers and has never really been worth a team place. Other english clubs are aware of his failings at Fulham and it would seem are not really interested in him.
Our chances of recovering some of the huge fee paid for him are slim , the best bet would be from an overseas team where the football is slower. It looks like another loan season for him.
Must add though that he is a lovely player with great skills but just not suited to English football.
Berbatov and Ruiz should have been a dream ticket for us , but it was a failure.
Ruiz has not been played in the right position which is behind the striker so as a 10. If berbatov has not been there we would have finally seen him shine. Instead he was played on the wings or worse as a CM. Lost confidence and lost the crowd. Now we have McCormack who plays in that position now that we have a target man. Yes they are very different players but I see them competing for a spot. Good luck Bryan. Rather have him here now than go for £2m and get some random journeyman come in on the free or for up to 500k. Would love to see McCormack and Ruiz play as the front two and see how that works out.
I can't see him playing just behind the main striker (No 10 as it's refered to)
It's far too nasty, dangerous, constricted, rough, thuggish, brutal, UGGGHHH and too
close to the two real nasties, the center backs.
These guys are real bullies.
The whistle blows for the start of each game.
"Dead Man Walking"
I think it's worth giving him a shot in the Champ. At the very worst, he'll be what he's been for the past three years - the odd goal but generally too weak and slow.
I have a sneaky suspicion he could do a Taraabt and do pretty well. But I don't see where he fits in now we have Smith/McCormack.
Quote from: Berserker on September 02, 2014, 07:26:26 AM
I meant the position he played in the World Cup, it seems to suit him
taking your comment seriously....
in brazil it seemed to me floated quite a bit and as such didn't have to do much tracking back
it also seemed to me he was afforded loads of room and not closed down at all quickly and as such had the opportunity to compose himself and have a good look round before deciding how to proceed. in the championship i suspect the pace will mean the game will just pass him by.
the way we played the first half V cardiff would have totally been beyond him, the pace was simply to fast and furious, we played like the harlem globetrotters and he is more of a boycott stylr cricketer.
We shall see what we shall see but i suspect magath will not play ruiz, if he was going to he would have done by now.
I just re-read all of Sarah's tweets and typically since Magath has been in charge she says nothing other than is on the Offal. It says nothing about Ruiz staying, and as the Turkish window is open for the rest of the month of September - as is Russia's - I think you can forget Ruiz. Besiktas has agreed terms, it just needs finalizing. http://www.besiktas-international.com/transfers/besiktas-edging-closer-signing-bryan-ruiz-martin-linnes/ (http://www.besiktas-international.com/transfers/besiktas-edging-closer-signing-bryan-ruiz-martin-linnes/)
Quote from: Berserker on September 02, 2014, 07:26:26 AM
I meant the position he played in the World Cup, it seems to suit him
I know :0)
Can't see any of these three being REALLY committed to the cause this year!
I reckon only Rodallega will be with us for the season.
Hasn't Rodders gone?
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
Can't see any of these three being REALLY committed to the cause this year!
I reckon only Rodallega will be with us for the season.
He may be with us but I hope he isn't picked above McC, Smith, Woodrow or Dembele
We will probably see Hugo against Doncaster
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on September 02, 2014, 12:14:37 PM
Ruiz has not been played in the right position which is behind the striker so as a 10. If berbatov has not been there we would have finally seen him shine. Instead he was played on the wings or worse as a CM. Lost confidence and lost the crowd. Now we have McCormack who plays in that position now that we have a target man. Yes they are very different players but I see them competing for a spot. Good luck Bryan. Rather have him here now than go for £2m and get some random journeyman come in on the free or for up to 500k. Would love to see McCormack and Ruiz play as the front two and see how that works out.
My view. And even when he played No 10 he had walkatov at 9 which made his job damn near impossible.
Ruiz with McCormack in front of him would be great. I saw McCormack playing on the shoulder of the last man about 4/5 times against Cardiff but nobody picked him out, I think Ruiz is good for that, as someone earlier mentioned Berba was fairly static.
i am impressed with the blind faith some people have in bryan ruiz.
In all this time he has spectacularly underachieved. He is not pacey and not very physical and he struggled in the cup game V burton
what makes anybody think that playing in the very physical and high tempo championship will suit him? I would think that there was a rush of clubs fighting for his signature speaks volumes.
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on September 02, 2014, 12:14:37 PM
Ruiz has not been played in the right position which is behind the striker so as a 10. If berbatov has not been there we would have finally seen him shine. Instead he was played on the wings or worse as a CM. Lost confidence and lost the crowd. Now we have McCormack who plays in that position now that we have a target man. Yes they are very different players but I see them competing for a spot. Good luck Bryan. Rather have him here now than go for £2m and get some random journeyman come in on the free or for up to 500k. Would love to see McCormack and Ruiz play as the front two and see how that works out.
I think McCormack would eventually get frustrated playing with a player like Ruiz who gets constantly knocked of the ball and put on his backside. I can imagine one of those scenarios where McCormack is leaning over a seemingly poll-axed Ruiz ripping into him after he had once again been out muscled for the ball and the other team had broken away and scored. Only an opinion but I think McCormack is too tough a player(thankfully) to put up with any of the nonsense Ruiz gets up to.
I think, given that Ruiz himself said that he is not a fighter and should not be made to track back, he'll not be playing any time soon.
Ruiz played today in the closed door friendly against Saudi.
Matt Smith scored 2
FFC 2- Saudi 1
