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Title: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
Assuming Bryan is on his way to Besiktas (I'm hearing conflicting reports on when the Turkish window actually closes), here's my starting XI for Reading:

McCormack Smith Rodallega

  Hyndman       David

             Parker

Staf   Burn   Bodurov   Voser

            Bettinelli
Title: Re: My Starting XI
Post by: crazycottager on September 01, 2014, 11:22:24 PM
mine would be similar but put esfield where Hyndman is and put Hyndman where parker should be.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Rodders still not in his best position but I would be happy with this.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 11:26:12 PM
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
Assuming Bryan is on his way to Besiktas (I'm hearing conflicting reports on when the Turkish window actually closes), here's my starting XI for Reading:

McCormack Smith Rodallega

   Hyndman       David

              Parker

Staf   Burn   Bodurov   Voser

             Bettinelli

Hoogland for Parker and I'd have that!

Subs: Joronen/Kiraly, Hutch, Parker, Roberts, Chihi, Eisfeld, Woodrow
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 01, 2014, 11:26:34 PM
Looking like Bryan is staying
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: callumc513 on September 01, 2014, 11:27:49 PM
                 Betts
Voser    Bodurov     Burn   Staf
               Hoogland
        Hyndman   Parker
                  David
      McCormack  Rodallega

(If we assume Bryan is leaving)
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:30:29 PM
Quote from: callumc513 on September 01, 2014, 11:27:49 PM
                 Betts
Voser    Bodurov     Burn   Staf
               Hoogland
        Hyndman   Parker
                  David
      McCormack  Rodallega

(If we assume Bryan is leaving)
drop Parker for david and slot Ruiz in behind the front, and for the love of god let him take all set pieces, even goal kicks.(but not penalties)
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: callumc513 on September 01, 2014, 11:32:53 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:30:29 PM
Quote from: callumc513 on September 01, 2014, 11:27:49 PM
                 Betts
Voser    Bodurov     Burn   Staf
               Hoogland
        Hyndman   Parker
                  David
      McCormack  Rodallega

(If we assume Bryan is leaving)
drop Parker for david and slot Ruiz in behind the front, and for the love of god let him take all set pieces, even goal kicks.(but not penalties)

Oh yeah if Bryan is staying I completely agree.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
                 Bettinelli
Voser  Bodurov   D.Burn  Stafylidis
                 Parker
     David                Hyndman
           Ruiz        Ross
                 Smith

Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Black, White and Fred on September 01, 2014, 11:45:56 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
                 Bettinelli
Voser  Bodurov   D.Burn  Stafylidis
                  Parker
      David                Hyndman
            Ruiz        Ross
                  Smith



This with Hoogland instead of Parker and maybe Cauley instead of Smith
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: PeterFFC on September 01, 2014, 11:49:15 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
                 Bettinelli
Voser  Bodurov   D.Burn  Stafylidis
                  Parker
      David                Hyndman
            Ruiz        Ross
                  Smith



This! Only thing I might change would be Hoogland for Parker
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on September 01, 2014, 11:45:56 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
                Bettinelli
Voser  Bodurov   D.Burn  Stafylidis
                 Parker
     David                Hyndman
           Ruiz        Ross
                 Smith



This with Hoogland instead of Parker and maybe Cauley instead of Smith

Fair, Hoog is our top scorer and Cauley's one of my faves. I'd take that.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: EJL on September 01, 2014, 11:58:29 PM
If playing Ruiz meant dropping David then no thank you.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 11:59:09 PM
                    Bettinelli
Voser    Bodurov          Burn    Stafilidis
                   Hoogland
         Hyndman        R Williams
  David                               McCormack
                   Rodallega


Smith isn't 'Felix fit' yet and he and Ruiz need to train with the squad before i'd include them. Hugo's been involved and would benefit from 'David' service.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 12:01:10 AM
                 Bettinelli
voser   bodurov  burn   stafylidis
   
                   Hoogland

          David               Parker
                     
                       Ruiz

            Smith         Mcormack

Kiraly
Hutchinson
Hyndman
Roberts
Chihi
Woodrow
Hugo
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: stephenFFC on September 02, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
I think it's an absolute must that McCormack plays centre forward and not on the left. The tiny spells he played in the centre on Saturday he looked good, making runs in behind the oppo defence. Exactly what you need when you play possession football.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Humbled on September 02, 2014, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: stephenFFC on September 02, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
I think it's an absolute must that McCormack plays centre forward and not on the left. The tiny spells he played in the centre on Saturday he looked good, making runs in behind the oppo defence. Exactly what you need when you play possession football.

Only issue is he naturally drops deep and wide.
Through the middle if we play 2 up top. If it is 3 or 1 (depending on how you look at it) he can do the slight withdrawn/wide attacker.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Barrett487 on September 02, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
Quote from: Humbled on September 02, 2014, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: stephenFFC on September 02, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
I think it's an absolute must that McCormack plays centre forward and not on the left. The tiny spells he played in the centre on Saturday he looked good, making runs in behind the oppo defence. Exactly what you need when you play possession football.

Only issue is he naturally drops deep and wide.
Through the middle if we play 2 up top. If it is 3 or 1 (depending on how you look at it) he can do the slight withdrawn/wide attacker.

:plus one:

He seems to enjoy coming in from wide, looking for one-twos and shooting opportunities. The only thing i'd query is why a goalscorer takes the corners?
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: crazycottager on September 02, 2014, 12:27:01 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:30:29 PM
Quote from: callumc513 on September 01, 2014, 11:27:49 PM
                 Betts
Voser    Bodurov     Burn   Staf
               Hoogland
        Hyndman   Parker
                  David
      McCormack  Rodallega

(If we assume Bryan is leaving)
drop Parker for david and slot Ruiz in behind the front, and for the love of god let him take all set pieces, even goal kicks.(but not penalties)

Swap hugo for smith and I would weep tears of joy
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: VamosFFC on September 02, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
Has it happened? Dropping a captain during the season in favor of a better player and naming a new one. I'm sure it has, but are there any examples.

Parker is not a bad player on his day, but you would have to say Hyndman or Hoogland play the position better.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Captain Fulhamerica on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: RidgeRider on September 02, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.

This is our best XI now that Smith has arrived. It may take him a match or two to learn Hyndman, Parker and David but this will be a good side for us.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on September 02, 2014, 02:56:51 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.

Our best starting 11.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: VamosFFC on September 02, 2014, 03:26:29 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.

Don't get me wrong, Parker is a good player. It just sometimes the way he plays can be frustrating. I was just asking if it had ever happened.

And I agree, that would be our best starting 11.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: AUSFFC on September 02, 2014, 04:47:29 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.

I rate this, if Ruiz is staying, maybe would rotate him with David?
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: JackyFulham90 on September 02, 2014, 06:35:06 AM
If everyone is fit then I would say

                          Bettenelli
Voser Bodurov Burn Stafylidis
                       Hoogland
            David                   Parker
                             Ruiz
                   Smith McCormack

Subs - Kiraly, Hutchinson, Eisfield, Roberts, Hyndman, Woodrow, Rodallega
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: MJG on September 02, 2014, 06:37:10 AM
Quote from: stephenFFC on September 02, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
I think it's an absolute must that McCormack plays centre forward and not on the left. The tiny spells he played in the centre on Saturday he looked good, making runs in behind the oppo defence. Exactly what you need when you play possession football.
IF we still want to do well we must play 2 up front, not two behind a lone man, or even a 4231, has to be two proper strikers
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Deanothefulhamfan on September 02, 2014, 06:59:24 AM
            Betinelli
Vosser Burn Bodurov Staf
          Hoogland
      Hyndman Eisfield
           David
     Woodrow  Mccormack

Never going to happen, but this is what I believe our strongest 11 to be (assuming Ruiz leaves)
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:19:08 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on September 02, 2014, 06:35:06 AM
If everyone is fit then I would say

                         Bettenelli
Voser Bodurov Burn Stafylidis
                      Hoogland
           David                   Parker
                            Ruiz
                  Smith McCormack

Subs - Kiraly, Hutchinson, Eisfield, Roberts, Hyndman, Woodrow, Rodallega


You copied my team lol! Even got david and parker on the same sides and smith left- mcormack right. Even the bench is the same except I have chihi, you have eisfeld.

They do say great minds think a like!
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Cravenawin on September 02, 2014, 10:27:10 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.
That's spot on.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Bronaldinho on September 02, 2014, 11:34:25 AM
Betts
Staf Burn Hutch Hoogland
Parker - David
RMC - Ruiz - Roberts
Smith.

That would be lovely 4-2-3-1.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: BRNicholson on September 02, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
                  Bettinelli
Voser    Bodurov    Burn    Stafylidis
          Hoogland    Hyndman
          David    Ruiz    McCormack
                    Smith

Bench: Joronen, Amorebieta, Parker, Eisfeld, Roberts, Woodrow, Rodallega.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: J.Perkins on September 02, 2014, 01:57:57 PM
-----------------Bettinelli------------------

--Hoogland--Bodurov--Burn--Stafylidis--

-------------------Parker-------------------

--------Hyndman----------David----------

--------------------Ruiz--------------------

------McCormack---------Rodallega------
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: crazycottager on September 02, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
                               Bettinelli
Voser     Bodurov   Burn Stafylidis
                   Hyndman
      David                   Roberts
                 Ruiz
McCormack  Smith

And esfield, rodders and woodrow off the bench for some attacking sting.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Ordar on September 02, 2014, 04:55:48 PM
If Ruiz stays (and I'm still sceptical and feel he'll find a way out) I just cant see how we cant play him. We should stick with the diamond as it suits our side better. I think our best side is:

-------------------Bettinelli--------------
Hoogland--Bodorov-----Burn--Stafylidis
--------------------Parker------------
------------Hyndman--R Williams----
---------------------Ruiz------------
-------------Smith------McCormack

Harsh to drop David, but I think we need a more solid midfield base if we're to play Ruiz, Smith and McCormack.

Hyndman and Ryan Williams have really impressed me in midfield, and I'd be tempted to try and make them the centre of the team. Parker can hold (if he must play) otherwise Hoogland can play there.

We obviously have lots of options from the bench. We're really not creating alot of clear cut chances, so hopefully the introduction of Ruiz and Smith with give us some different options up front
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: PaulJ123 on September 02, 2014, 05:10:18 PM
I really don't think Ruiz will play, but if he does:

Betts
Voser Bodurov Burn Staf
Hoogland Parker
David               Ruiz
McCormack Smith
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: AlexH on September 02, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
-------------- Bettinelli-------------

---Voser---Bodurov---Burn---Staf---

---------------Hoogland------------

----Hyndman----Parker---David-----

---------Smith-----McCormack------

Subs: Kiraly, Hutchinson, R Williams, Ruiz, Roberts, Woodrow, Rodallega
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: bobby01 on September 02, 2014, 06:13:53 PM
 Sorry, Ruiz got knocked of the ball easily in the premier league, he will not be able to handle the championship. Just saying.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Baszab on September 02, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
not sure if Ruiz has even been training with the first team recently ?
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on September 02, 2014, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.

Agreed, unfortunate not to score.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:23:59 PM
Lol, ask any player on the team whether Parker should be dropped!
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: GW02 on September 02, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Trouble with Parker is I believe that both Hyndmann and Hoogland have had better starts to the season and merit starting more on current form. I don't like Parker in a more advanced role, slows it down too much, and I do not see how to accommodate all 3 in the starting 11 without having 3 holding midfielders.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 08:43:43 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:23:59 PM
Lol, ask any player on the team whether Parker should be dropped!
yes I'm sure david hyndman or the hoog would much rather he play instead of them
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: GW02 on September 02, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Trouble with Parker is I believe that both Hyndmann and Hoogland have had better starts to the season and merit starting more on current form. I don't like Parker in a more advanced role, slows it down too much, and I do not see how to accommodate all 3 in the starting 11 without having 3 holding midfielders.
and this is it. He is not the best player for any one position. And he is a proper Jonah, we win very few games with him in the team.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: MrProphet on September 02, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
The talk of putting Ruiz in amazes me the hours of watching him in a Fulham shirt left me under no illusion that he just isn't good enough to play in England. He wants half an hour on the ball then no one to get physical with him.

Anyway rant over

           Bettinelli
Voser Bodurov Burn Staf
           Hoogland
     Hyndman Parker
                David
     Mccormack Rodallega

Subs
kiraly
Hutchinson
LVC
Roberts
George Williams
Woodrow
smith

I likes the width that we had on Saturday but we need to get mccormack in to more dangerous positions and closer to another striker. Thought Rodders and mccormack showed signs of developing a good understanding against Millwall
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: FulhamStudent on September 02, 2014, 09:56:30 PM
               Bettinelli

Hoogland Bodurov Burn Stafy

              Parker

Hyndman                 Eisfeld

              David


    McCormack    Smith
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
what position would you play him?
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: f bloke on September 02, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
Interesting to see the debate re Parker. For me he is a major reason of our demise. I would go so far as saying that if we had got Huddlestone instead of Parker we would have not got relegated last season. He was dreadful last season. He did not have the discipline to play DCM nor did he have the spring in his legs to perform that role. We conceded so many long range goals last season due to him either being out of position or being too slow to close the space down.

As far as I am concerned, his return to the side at the end of last season put an end to our mini revival and effectively guaranteed our relegation. I would put him in the top 10 most damaging buys in the history of our club.

I was hoping that he would be better this season after a Magath pre season but  I think he has been equally awful.  He is on the ball a lot so gives the impression of being busy/effective, but on closer inspection his decision making is poor and his pass execution is worse.  His short range passing is often a yard or two off making it difficult for the recipient to control and his long range passing is just non existent. A disproportionate number of moves break down when he is on the ball, either due to his poor pass execution, his decision making or his delay on the ball and his fondness for ever decreasing circles. He is a major reason why we create so little and score so few.

Even if you think my view on his ability is wrong, a midfield of him, Hoogland, Hyndman and David is wrong - it is unbalanced since it is not nearly creative enough and relies way too much on David to make things happen.  Hoogland is a better DCM and Parker is not nearly creative enough to play further forward. On this basis, Hoogland and David are musts so to get a balanced midfield it is necessary to choose between Hyndman and Parker and for for me Hyndman is currently a far superior player. The fourth man should be one of a Ruiz, Eisfeld, Roberts or one of the Williams depending on the circumstances.

If Parker is a regular starter, I think we will have another serious relegation battle on our hands

Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
what position would you play him?


I would keep our starting 11 from cardiff and replace woodrow with smith. So whatever role parker played in that game seemed to suit the balance of the team. Hoogland as the holding midfielder, parker and hyndman in front of him and david in a free role behind m and s. I knownits very narrow and its made worse because staf and voser cant cross very well but theres not any wingers worthy of changing.that diamond system. Kaca is out on loan, roberts is better off the bench for now, both williams are squad players and not sure about chihi.

Eisfeld disrupts the balance because hes too similar to david. If ruiz can play then id put hyndman on the bench and drop david back a bit with ruiz in the hole.

Who would you play instead of parker?
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
what position would you play him?


I would keep our starting 11 from cardiff and replace woodrow with smith. So whatever role parker played in that game seemed to suit the balance of the team. Hoogland as the holding midfielder, parker and hyndman in front of him and david in a free role behind m and s. I knownits very narrow and its made worse because staf and voser cant cross very well but theres not any wingers worthy of changing.that diamond system. Kaca is out on loan, roberts is better off the bench for now, both williams are squad players and not sure about chihi.

Eisfeld disrupts the balance because hes too similar to david. If ruiz can play then id put hyndman on the bench and drop david back a bit with ruiz in the hole.

Who would you play instead of parker?
the hoog
                             hyndman                              ryan williams   
                                                    david   
                                 woodrow                  mccormack   
back 5 picks itself.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Arthur on September 03, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
                      Bettinelli

Voser     Bodurov       Burn      Stafylidis

                      Hoogland

     David         Hyndman     Williams R.

                          Ruiz

                     McCormack


Let's see McCormack playing where he is most likely to do what we bought him to do - score goals. Ryan Williams was impressive enough in his two previous outings to deserve a further opportunity. Hoogland looks considerably better in midfield than he did at right-back. Ruiz may, as many believe, find the Championship too frenetic, but we surely have to try him out and see. Personally, I think that he would justify his place in the side. Parker was meant to be our midfield general, but Millwall apart, he has failed to dictate the play. We need better than he is offering and, in Hyndman and David, we have two players who can do so.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: aaronmcguigan on September 03, 2014, 01:19:26 AM
Has Ruiz been training? Hes not in Costa Ricas squad for the copa centroamerica.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Black, White and Fred on September 03, 2014, 02:08:37 AM
Quote from: Arthur on September 03, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
                      Bettinelli

Voser     Bodurov       Burn      Stafylidis

                      Hoogland

     David         Hyndman     Williams R.

                          Ruiz

                     McCormack


Let's see McCormack playing where he is most likely to do what we bought him to do - score goals. Ryan Williams was impressive enough in his two previous outings to deserve a further opportunity. Hoogland looks considerably better in midfield than he did at right-back. Ruiz may, as many believe, find the Championship too frenetic, but we surely have to try him out and see. Personally, I think that he would justify his place in the side. Parker was meant to be our midfield general, but Millwall apart, he has failed to dictate the play. We need better than he is offering and, in Hyndman and David, we have two players who can do so.

Even though I have ready posted a different team, this one has me drooling
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 03, 2014, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
what position would you play him?


I would keep our starting 11 from cardiff and replace woodrow with smith. So whatever role parker played in that game seemed to suit the balance of the team. Hoogland as the holding midfielder, parker and hyndman in front of him and david in a free role behind m and s. I knownits very narrow and its made worse because staf and voser cant cross very well but theres not any wingers worthy of changing.that diamond system. Kaca is out on loan, roberts is better off the bench for now, both williams are squad players and not sure about chihi.

Eisfeld disrupts the balance because hes too similar to david. If ruiz can play then id put hyndman on the bench and drop david back a bit with ruiz in the hole.

Who would you play instead of parker?
the hoog
                             hyndman                              ryan williams   
                                                    david   
                                 woodrow                  mccormack   
back 5 picks itself.


I never went derby so I can only judge williams on his wolves cameo and brentford. He was awful against wolves but there was a big improvement against the bees. Theres a talent there but im not.sure he gets football enough to make the most of it. Doesnt seem to have much end product, its not a bad shout to play him and persevere but for me hes not good enough to replace parker.

In an ideal world my front 6 would of been

                    Hoogland      parker

        David                 Ruiz                   Kaca

                                   Mcormack

but that cant happen now.

Fingers crossed what ever felix does we win! Who knows, maybe we might have a couple more quality players on loan by then


Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: fulhamben on September 03, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 03, 2014, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 02, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Some lunatics on here saying drop Parker for the Reading game!

Silly talk!

His performance against Cardiff merits a place in the team alone.
we have better, so yes drop him.


Its a funny old game. Even our captain divides opinion. For me he's the first man on the team sheet after bodurov and burn. Maybe we dont win much with him but we dont exactly win much without him either. (Please dont refer to brentford, we were gonna win that one regardless). I think every young.team needs a parker and he has to start
what position would you play him?


I would keep our starting 11 from cardiff and replace woodrow with smith. So whatever role parker played in that game seemed to suit the balance of the team. Hoogland as the holding midfielder, parker and hyndman in front of him and david in a free role behind m and s. I knownits very narrow and its made worse because staf and voser cant cross very well but theres not any wingers worthy of changing.that diamond system. Kaca is out on loan, roberts is better off the bench for now, both williams are squad players and not sure about chihi.

Eisfeld disrupts the balance because hes too similar to david. If ruiz can play then id put hyndman on the bench and drop david back a bit with ruiz in the hole.

Who would you play instead of parker?
the hoog
                             hyndman                              ryan williams   
                                                    david   
                                 woodrow                  mccormack   
back 5 picks itself.


I never went derby so I can only judge williams on his wolves cameo and brentford. He was awful against wolves but there was a big improvement against the bees. Theres a talent there but im not.sure he gets football enough to make the most of it. Doesnt seem to have much end product, its not a bad shout to play him and persevere but for me hes not good enough to replace parker.

In an ideal world my front 6 would of been

                    Hoogland      parker

        David                 Ruiz                   Kaca

                                   Mcormack

but that cant happen now.

Fingers crossed what ever felix does we win! Who knows, maybe we might have a couple more quality players on loan by then



id even play George Williams down the left or put Hyndman there and put Roberts down the right before starting parker
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Jimmy Hill on September 03, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: MJs Statue on September 02, 2014, 12:48:41 AM
I'm not quite sure why people seem to question Parker's place in the side.  I think he's been terrific so far this season.  It's also great to have an experienced player next to a young player like Hyndman.  So many were calling for us to bring in an experienced CM yet you want to take Parker out of the team...  Don't get that.

My team:

              Bettinelli

Voser  Bodurov  Burn  Staf

             Hoogland

        Parker    Hyndman

David                  McCormack

              Smith

David and McCormack wouldn't be traditional wide players, but David would drift right, and McCormack left.

Yep I like this but would have Ruiz on the bench and give him half hour and see if he is committed to us or not. 
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: FPT on September 03, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Stick with the diamond, dominate the midfield, and add the width with Williams or Roberts in the second half.

-----------------Bettinelli------------------
Voser-----Bodurov-------Burn-------Stafylidis
------------------Hoogland-----------------
------------Parker-------Hyndman-----------
-------------------David--------------------
-----------Rodallega------McCormack--------

Subs: Kiraly, Hutchinson, Christensen, Eisfeld, Roberts, Williams, Smith.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: Forever Fulham on September 04, 2014, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Arthur on September 03, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
                      Bettinelli

Voser     Bodurov       Burn      Stafylidis

                      Hoogland

     David         Hyndman     Williams R.

                          Ruiz

                     McCormack


Let's see McCormack playing where he is most likely to do what we bought him to do - score goals. Ryan Williams was impressive enough in his two previous outings to deserve a further opportunity. Hoogland looks considerably better in midfield than he did at right-back. Ruiz may, as many believe, find the Championship too frenetic, but we surely have to try him out and see. Personally, I think that he would justify his place in the side. Parker was meant to be our midfield general, but Millwall apart, he has failed to dictate the play. We need better than he is offering and, in Hyndman and David, we have two players who can do so.
This is a tasty lineup for sure!
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: crazycottager on September 05, 2014, 12:48:11 AM
Quote from: FPT on September 03, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Stick with the diamond, dominate the midfield, and add the width with Williams or Roberts in the second half.

-----------------Bettinelli------------------
Voser-----Bodurov-------Burn-------Stafylidis
------------------Hoogland-----------------
------------Parker-------Hyndman-----------
-------------------David--------------------
-----------Rodallega------McCormack--------

Subs: Kiraly, Hutchinson, Christensen, Eisfeld, Roberts, Williams, Smith.

like it, but swap parker for esfield, or Roberts, and start smith with McCormack, a 40 goal partnership should not be ignored, even if most of it was ross, having some chemistry might help. also, give ruiz at least a chance, I think he has a point to prove, and let's at least see how he does.
Title: Re: Starting XI for Reading
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on September 05, 2014, 01:12:29 PM
Quote from: crazycottager on September 05, 2014, 12:48:11 AM
Quote from: FPT on September 03, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Stick with the diamond, dominate the midfield, and add the width with Williams or Roberts in the second half.

-----------------Bettinelli------------------
Voser-----Bodurov-------Burn-------Stafylidis
------------------Hoogland-----------------
------------Parker-------Hyndman-----------
-------------------David--------------------
-----------Rodallega------McCormack--------

Subs: Kiraly, Hutchinson, Christensen, Eisfeld, Roberts, Williams, Smith.

like it, but swap parker for esfield, or Roberts, and start smith with McCormack, a 40 goal partnership should not be ignored, even if most of it was ross, having some chemistry might help. also, give ruiz at least a chance, I think he has a point to prove, and let's at least see how he does.


So basically you like that team but you'd change half of it lol?