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Title: The Anger
Post by: The Rock on September 16, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
When we almost went down when Roy saved us I cried like a baby. Many on here have been through even more trying times then I. Now, I find myself lost. Fulham is lost. The owner is lost. The manager is lost. Fulham has no team nor identity. Can't blame the players. Mitro scoring with Kacaniclic assist in the Champions league tonight says it all. We probably have a premier league side, and no one able to take this group of great players and do anything with them. I don't feel sorrow. I don't feel regret.

I AM ANGRY!

I hope it gets very very ugly for Khan and Magath, starting tomorrow. At this point foul language is the only option I have left so I'll stop there.



Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Baszab on September 16, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
I am angry--  I have paid for 4 season tickets -- I want my money back
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: westcliff white on September 16, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
Quote from: The Rock on September 16, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
When we almost went down when Roy saved us I cried like a baby. Many on here have been through even more trying times then I. Now, I find myself lost. Fulham is lost. The owner is lost. The manager is lost. Fulham has no team nor identity. Can't blame the players. Mitro scoring with Kacaniclic assist in the Champions league tonight says it all. We probably have a premier league side, and no one able to take this group of great players and do anything with them. I don't feel sorrow. I don't feel regret.

I AM ANGRY!

I hope it gets very very ugly for Khan and Magath, starting tomorrow. At this point foul language is the only option I have left so I'll stop there.




Kasami not kaca
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: The Rock on September 16, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
Kasami. No use in mixing facts with a good rant, sorry and thank you.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on September 16, 2014, 10:11:19 PM
It was Kasami with the assist, I believe, and not Kakaniclic.

I'm upset as well. Disillusioned is probably more accurate. When we were a frog's fart away from relegation during the Great Escape season, I was glued to the television every game and every minute because that team wanted saving and fought for it. And that, to my wife's displeasure, is how it has been since I found Fulham. However, this past season and the current one, I find myself with less and less desire to watch in whichever way is possible. The team either doesn't have the fight or the plan and organization is just inept.

The anticipation and excitement that was built in knowing that the kids were going to get their shot just feels wasted.

I agree. The Fulham I grew to love is lost at the moment.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: RidgeRider on September 16, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: The Rock on September 16, 2014, 09:58:13 PM

I AM ANGRY!

I hope it gets very very ugly for Khan and Magath, starting tomorrow. At this point foul language is the only option I have left so I'll stop there.





Thank you!  084.gif
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Fulham58 on September 16, 2014, 10:44:16 PM
Me I'm just fed up & currently can't see any real way out of this mess.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Lighthouse on September 16, 2014, 11:09:04 PM
Repeating myself I am afraid but I am no longer angry. Just bored with it all.  People are better fans and supporters even if they haven't been around as long as I have and there are those who have been around longer.

But through it all, going to matches, trying to hear a little transistor radio on the South Coast trying to pick up LBC. Bunking off work, driving from Scotland to the South Coast and back to London in one trip to watch a third division game. Taking mates and girlfriends and relatives along to the game. Having my Dad and My Mum and my Sister all become fans and supporters.

The one constant has been I have always tried to listen to updates and later the commentary. The away League Cup game to Brentford I didn't bother for the first time and just looked up the result. I will do the same tomorrow night and just watch television. From a position of strength my club, the club that has been a part of my family has been allowed to decay. Not angry any more. Just sad and bored.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: SouthWest6 on September 16, 2014, 11:14:51 PM
It's understandable, we've all had 3 seasons of poor football now. One nearly ending in relegation, one that did end in relegation, and another that looks like it's going to end in relegation, if we don't pull our finger out.

The hardest part to accept was the point where Fayed shut up shop, we seemed to lose all communication as a Club, and things started to go bad around us, bit like a toothache.

From here on in, it's been bad decision, after bad decision, lack of investment, more bad decisions, bad results, poor take over, cluless ownership, bad manager(s), it goes on.

There is only so much one can take.

Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Artful Dodger on September 16, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
I think the anger is turning in to bewilderment for me now. I am just staggered at how we have managed to go from safe mid table PL team to utter embarrassment at the bottom of the Championship in 18 months!

Seriously though, if I had tried set out a plan to destroy the club in the space of 6 months, I couldn't have done it any better. I know an overhaul was needed but not every single player (except Parker). Why didn't we decide to hang on to Sidwell, Richardson, Dejagah, Stockdale, Heitinga and then bed some of the better youngsters in to a more experienced and settled team? I know they weren't great last year but they should have been good enough for this league. Norwich have kept the vast majority of their team together and are seeing the benefits. Who sanctioned that strategy?? I'm off to bed...... fp.gif
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: SouthWest6 on September 16, 2014, 11:41:13 PM
This will calm you lot down..

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Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Lighthouse on September 16, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
It is like some curse ever since Khan took over.
Title: Re:
Post by: Berserker on September 17, 2014, 04:22:21 AM
It's since my mum passed actually.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Pie and mash on September 17, 2014, 07:29:41 AM
I'm just bored by it all and am patiently waiting for the chairman to get the manager with experience at this level that we're crying out for.

No point getting angry
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Max Headroom on September 17, 2014, 08:35:13 AM
I am angry too. It isn't a choice.

Angry and helpless
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Bedford White on September 17, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
It's that statue of MJ, from the moment it arrived we started turning pants! It's a curse I tell you.

I was angry but now I'm resigned to our inevitable decline. I agree with the sentiments of most on here that it is truly disgusting how we've fallen so far in such a short time. Is it all deliberate or simply naivety and inexperience from SK, and FM? Whichever the case this is a very sad time to be a Fulham supporter and what's worse I feel absolutely frustrated and powerless to effect these events. I need a drink....
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: sumofallparts on September 17, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
The pic of Kasami and Mitro - isn't the first thing you notice how happy they are.
When did you last see a Fulham player with a beaming smile like that?
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Reznor on September 17, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: sumofallparts on September 17, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
The pic of Kasami and Mitro - isn't the first thing you notice how happy they are.
When did you last see a Fulham player with a beaming smile like that?

Sadly when they left and joined their next club.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Pie and mash on September 17, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 17, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
The decline began round about the time when Billy The Badger replaced Sir Craven of Cottage, and that is too much of a coincidence for me.

Now that made me ANGRY  :dft007:

Wonder if Craven found work anywhere else
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Some of you lot need to get a grip on reality.

We've been through a thousand times worse than this.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Some of you lot need to get a grip on reality.

We've been through a thousand times worse than this.

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean? We have been on the verge of going out of business so why bother to complain now? We all die so don't complain about an illness that could have be cured? Like you I have lived through those days. It is far worse now to come from a position of strength and be heading back to the bad old days. Still if you are content with the present reality then fine. However because we have nearly died as a club doesn't negate complaining about being poisoned now
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: ChrisB22 on September 17, 2014, 01:34:29 PM
I have been a supporter since my dear Uncle took me to Craven Cottage when I was 11 I am now 58 ! It's not just feeling bad about our situation it's the length of time that we have been feeling bad about our situation. It just drains you !
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 01:55:40 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Some of you lot need to get a grip on reality.

We've been through a thousand times worse than this.

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean? We have been on the verge of going out of business so why bother to complain now? We all die so don't complain about an illness that could have be cured? Like you I have lived through those days. It is far worse now to come from a position of strength and be heading back to the bad old days. Still if you are content with the present reality then fine. However because we have nearly died as a club doesn't negate complaining about being poisoned now

I'm not questioning peoples right to complain, it's people talking as if it's the onset of Armageddon. When it bears no comparison to our troubles of the 80's & 90's.

Even if we go down again, It's only the same as what happened the last time we got relegated from the top tier.

As long as there is a club called Fulham playing in black & white at Craven cottage that is really the main thing to me.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 01:55:40 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Some of you lot need to get a grip on reality.

We've been through a thousand times worse than this.

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean? We have been on the verge of going out of business so why bother to complain now? We all die so don't complain about an illness that could have be cured? Like you I have lived through those days. It is far worse now to come from a position of strength and be heading back to the bad old days. Still if you are content with the present reality then fine. However because we have nearly died as a club doesn't negate complaining about being poisoned now

I'm not questioning peoples right to complain, it's people talking as if it's the onset of Armageddon. When it bears no comparison to our troubles of the 80's & 90's.

Even if we go down again, It's only the same as what happened the last time we got relegated from the top tier.

As long as there is a club called Fulham playing in black & white at Craven cottage that is really the main thing to me.

Well fair enough but I couldn't disagree more. As long as Fulham are playing at Craven Cottage in the lower divisions you are content. I just don't share that opinion hence the frustration. Having climbed out of the troubles of the 80's and 90's, finding ourselves back there having had the experience of beating big clubs and a European final. I kind of fear the return of watching a small team in a small division again because of mismanagement at several levels. However I do envy that feeling of it being less painful because we have done it all before.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 01:55:40 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 17, 2014, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Harold Shand on September 17, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Some of you lot need to get a grip on reality.

We've been through a thousand times worse than this.

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean? We have been on the verge of going out of business so why bother to complain now? We all die so don't complain about an illness that could have be cured? Like you I have lived through those days. It is far worse now to come from a position of strength and be heading back to the bad old days. Still if you are content with the present reality then fine. However because we have nearly died as a club doesn't negate complaining about being poisoned now

I'm not questioning peoples right to complain, it's people talking as if it's the onset of Armageddon. When it bears no comparison to our troubles of the 80's & 90's.

Even if we go down again, It's only the same as what happened the last time we got relegated from the top tier.

As long as there is a club called Fulham playing in black & white at Craven cottage that is really the main thing to me.

Well fair enough but I couldn't disagree more. As long as Fulham are playing at Craven Cottage in the lower divisions you are content. I just don't share that opinion hence the frustration. Having climbed out of the troubles of the 80's and 90's, finding ourselves back there having had the experience of beating big clubs and a European final. I kind of fear the return of watching a small team in a small division again because of mismanagement at several levels. However I do envy that feeling of it being less painful because we have done it all before.

I didn't say I was content, I said it was the main thing for me.
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: Baszab on September 17, 2014, 03:31:49 PM
we can, at the very least, demand and expect the club to do something instead of watching slide down the toilet
Title: Re: The Anger
Post by: In the Enclosure on September 17, 2014, 06:05:04 PM
Billy the Badger was with us the season we got to the Europa Final - In fact I had lunch with him pre match in Hamburg so don't blame him.

Someone said that 3-0 away  win against Swansea lulled the Board into a false sense of security and we started to believe we were better than we were.

Really went downhill when Roy left and we replaced him with aspirational managers Hughes and Jol.