Who would you play up front with Ruiz and McCormack? Rodders seems to be the man that Kit prefers, and he does really open up defenses, however, he seems to miss quite a few chances. Smith - I don't know much about him to be completely honest and the first real game I have seen of him he got a Red card. Who would you choose? Rodders for me, with Smith as a substitute on 55-60 minutes.
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Rodders without a doubt. Smith may be more useful for matches coming on causing a nuisance. We have needed a tall player and we have needed Ross to play down the middle with Rodders. Smith however may spark a good partnership with either Ross or Rodders.
neither Ross and Woodrow for me. Hugo is woefully inept at controlling the shooting in my opinion. Smith will be useful against some teams. But for me Woodrow and Ross with Dembele, Smith and Hugo as back ups
Quote from: westcliff white on September 24, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
neither Ross and Woodrow for me. Hugo is woefully inept at controlling the shooting in my opinion. Smith will be useful against some teams. But for me Woodrow and Ross with Dembele, Smith and Hugo as back ups
But Woodrow has been tried and never looked that decent this season. His link and hold up play was pretty woeful. Hugo at least get into decent positions to miss.
Hold on we are talking about players and not managers. This feels weird.
i'd say smith, he and ross know how to play with each other so i think they'll form a better partnership.
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 24, 2014, 02:50:37 PM
i'd say smith, he and ross know how to play with each other so i think they'll form a better partnership.
Do you want to re-phrase that? lol.
How does Kit seem to prefer Hugo when Smith has been suspended for the 2 games he's been in charge? Was he spotted buying Hugo a 99 from the Ice Cream Truck while Smith sat in the background crying?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on September 24, 2014, 02:52:33 PM
How does Kit seem to prefer Hugo when Smith has been suspended for the 2 games he's been in charge? Was he spotted buying Hugo a 99 from the Ice Cream Truck while Smith sat in the background crying?
My thoughts exactly.
Considering Smith & McCormack were such a success at a poor team like Leeds last season I'd be amazed if they didn't start against Blackpool, unless Rodallega get a hat trick at St Andrews
Hugo's game has definitely picked up recently and a good run will help him more. For now, I'd start with Hugo and swap them with 20 minutes left.
woodrow for me
Hugo gives us a bit of pace up front, is not that bad in the air and is much more mobile that Smith. But Smith is a good target man so I believe Kit will us them on the basis of horses for courses.
HUUUUUUUGO
Hugo - every time. Never given a proper run last year, and will come good. Pacey, and seriously cares.
Hugo deserves applause for his effort but he is just a nearly man on skill ,pace and aerial ability, good at all three but not outstanding at any.
Smith did well last season with McCormac in an average Leeds side, he must be given a few games as he could prove to be the target man we badly need.
Two very different players - last night when we were spraying the ball around quickly Rodders was terrific, albeit missing a few chances.
In the second half, and very much as was the case in the Blackburn match, he tried manfully bit was being outmuscled by taller centre halves when we resorted to high hanging balls towards the forwards.
In such situations Smith would be the better option and a good change. He did have a reasonable goal scoring record with Cormack - let's hope this will happen again this season.
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Quote from: westcliff white on September 24, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
neither Ross and Woodrow for me. Hugo is woefully inept at controlling the shooting in my opinion. Smith will be useful against some teams. But for me Woodrow and Ross with Dembele, Smith and Hugo as back ups
But Woodrow has been tried and never looked that decent this season. His link and hold up play was pretty woeful. Hugo at least get into decent positions to miss.
Hold on we are talking about players and not managers. This feels weird.
LOL makes a change. For me Hugo will never cut it, i think 10 is the most he has scored in a season in England. he could do better in the championship but when he has played this season he still doesn't look like he will, take the miss last night, that should have been in without a doubt. Woodrow needs to settle i agree, he looked a lot better at the end of last season
Quote from: filham on September 24, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
Hugo deserves applause for his effort but he is just a nearly man on skill ,pace and aerial ability, good at all three but not outstanding at any.
Smith did well last season with McCormac in an average Leeds side, he must be given a few games as he could prove to be the target man we badly need.
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Give Smith a go
Quote from: Pie and mash on September 24, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
Give Smith a go
and what does that say to our other strikers, play bad, get sent off and cost us three points and you are nailed on to start
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
if we want goals the ross thru the middle and give him decent service. but for me and I am sorry Hugo just isn't going to cut it sadly
Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
Quote from: fulhamben on September 24, 2014, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
We haven't seen anything of him yet -so how do you know he doesn't deserve a start?
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Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
We haven't seen anything of him yet -so how do you know he doesn't deserve a start?
er because his debut was shocking. he should be given ten minutes at the end of a game, not given the nod
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Quote from: fulhamben on September 24, 2014, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
We haven't seen anything of him yet -so how do you know he doesn't deserve a start?
er because his debut was shocking. he should be given ten minutes at the end of a game, not given the nod
I've spoken to plenty of Leeds fans through work about Smith and consensus is that he's dreadful on floor. Best coming on late to mix things up. Makes room for others as two men mark him.
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Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
We haven't seen anything of him yet -so how do you know he doesn't deserve a start?
er because his debut was shocking. he should be given ten minutes at the end of a game, not given the nod
I've spoken to plenty of Leeds fans through work about Smith and consensus is that he's dreadful on floor. Best coming on late to mix things up. Makes room for others as two men mark him.
yep, starting him means we will pack the middle (again) with defensive players and go route one. no one wants to see that.
What had Dembele warranted to start? Nothing
Does Woodrow bring much to the team? No
Matt Smith needs to work his way into the team, his fault for being sent off.
Rodallega has done a decent job ability wise, and gives his all, all game.
Hence, Rodallega, for the foreseeable future.
Smith.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 24, 2014, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
Erm Woodrow has had tons of football this season and brought absolutely nothing. Smith has only had 19 minutes for christs sake - let's give him a chance!
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 24, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
What had Dembele warranted to start? Nothing
Does Woodrow bring much to the team? No
Matt Smith needs to work his way into the team, his fault for being sent off.
Rodallega has done a decent job ability wise, and gives his all, all game.
Hence, Rodallega, for the foreseeable future.
Decent is questionable but his all in his time with us so far has it been good enough
Quote from: westcliff white on September 24, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 24, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
What had Dembele warranted to start? Nothing
Does Woodrow bring much to the team? No
Matt Smith needs to work his way into the team, his fault for being sent off.
Rodallega has done a decent job ability wise, and gives his all, all game.
Hence, Rodallega, for the foreseeable future.
Decent is questionable but his all in his time with us so far has it been good enough
I couldn't think of a word. None of our striker has great ability, but I think he has the most.
Smith. Like to see what he and Ross could do in 3/4 of a game. Then bring on Rod.
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Woodrow brings nothing??? When he has played this season Fulham have looked at their best from an attacking point of view. I personally think Woodrow has done well, and deserves another chance (think he has been injured) but would love him back in our team with Ruiz.
Woodrow everyday of the week over a player who is best suited to route one, and got sent off on his debut. I would have Trotta starting over smith.... I think Rodallega would work better with Woodrow as well.... RM needs to do a lot more imo
Smith is a good player to bring on as a sub, but to start him on his first game back would send an awful message.
smith
Wow it's great to see we are all in agreement :005:
I am usually talking up Woodrow, however I think what Hugo brings to the team is link up with Ruiz as is why I think Amore has been brought back into the side. I think they are all mates and it is to keep Ruiz happy. Just a theory mind.
Sorry to say, nice bloke and all that but Rodders has the first touch of a brick wall and cannot take a ball out of the air with his head and hold it as Zamora did, says it all really, he missed 2 really good chances on Tuesday, Smith has to have a chance as should Woodrow
Smith has a worse touch than Hugo. Don't forget he laid on a goal the other day.
But he also leaped well and won a ball in the air to nod down for Bryan.....
Yes he missed a couple of chances, but "strikers need confidence which comes from goals which come from confidence.....". A decent run, and am convinced he will come good in this league. Woodrow is the future. Smith on the bench or rotating as others have said (Woodrow too).
The beauty of different views, eh.
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on September 25, 2014, 01:11:57 AM
Woodrow brings nothing??? When he has played this season Fulham have looked at their best from an attacking point of view. I personally think Woodrow has done well, and deserves another chance (think he has been injured) but would love him back in our team with Ruiz.
Woodrow everyday of the week over a player who is best suited to route one, and got sent off on his debut. I would have Trotta starting over smith.... I think Rodallega would work better with Woodrow as well.... RM needs to do a lot more imo
Smith is a good player to bring on as a sub, but to start him on his first game back would send an awful message.
Which is how he featured in many games for Leeds, as an impact sub
we have seen quite a bit of hugo now, i love him for his smile, eg=ffort and enthusiasm but he cannot hold up the ball and has no first touch. let somebody else have a chance
i love woodrow and he is a top player in the making..he is the future buthad a poor start to the season. i would give smith a chance to see what he can do and re introduce woodrowgradually. dembele is still very raw.
ruiz looks to me what he is, far to ineffectiveand despite a very nice goal and a few impressive touches the game goes on around him and he is generally well off the pace.
i thought williams V doncaster needed a kick up his back side for beingso selfish when 3 on one, that was not youth but sheer greed and as said selfishness and then not getting a shot away when clean through. I want to see roberts and david. back very soon especially david who is a true class act.
we have seen quite a bit of hugo now, i love him for his smile, eg=ffort and enthusiasm but he cannot hold up the ball and has no first touch. let somebody else have a chance
i love woodrow and he is a top player in the making..he is the future buthad a poor start to the season. i would give smith a chance to see what he can do and re introduce woodrowgradually. dembele is still very raw.
ruiz looks to me what he is, far to ineffectiveand despite a very nice goal and a few impressive touches the game goes on around him and he is generally well off the pace.
i thought williams V doncaster needed a kick up his back side for beingso selfish when 3 on one, that was not youth but sheer greed and as said selfishness and then not getting a shot away when clean through. I want to see roberts and david. back very soon especially david who is a true class act.
Quote from: MJG on September 25, 2014, 08:29:45 AM
Smith has a worse touch than Hugo. Don't forget he laid on a goal the other day.
We havent seen Smith enough to really form an opinion, that cannot be said about Rodders, I would bet that Smith will score more goals than Rodders given the same game time, I remember the goals he scored against Everton in the cup when at Oldham, he is a natural poacher, a player we have lacked for some time. It is good that we have some good options for Kit to consider now with Dembele still to come through properly now one would hope.
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 24, 2014, 10:55:40 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 24, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 24, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
What had Dembele warranted to start? Nothing
Does Woodrow bring much to the team? No
Matt Smith needs to work his way into the team, his fault for being sent off.
Rodallega has done a decent job ability wise, and gives his all, all game.
Hence, Rodallega, for the foreseeable future.
Decent is questionable but his all in his time with us so far has it been good enough
I couldn't think of a word. None of our striker has great ability, but I think he has the most.
I respect your opinion but will disagree. at the end of the day I don't care who plays upfront as long as we win
Can't believe anyone wants Hugo in the team - rubbish on Tuesday night against 3rd rate opposition. No more please !
So Rodders scores the winner.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 27, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
So Rodders scores the winner.
We always said Rodders and yes, this 1 goal, does prove we were right.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on September 27, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
So Rodders scores the winner.
We always said Rodders and yes, this 1 goal, does prove we were right.
:54: 049:gif Good to crow about being right when it is to all our advantage. Great feeling
Quote from: fulhamben on September 24, 2014, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 24, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Woodrow and Dembele are nowhere near ready. Give them some time in the under 21s to develop. Ross for me with Rod or Smith, depending on who we're playing. Trotta as backup.
what do you mean by nowhere near ready? woodrow more than holds his own, and what have you seen from smith to warrant another start?
0001.jpeg What puzzles me is why suddenly a player that has had an Ok career in lower leagues came on as sub more than he started last season for Leeds is now the saviour and must start player for Fulham? Rodeallaga and Woodrow proved they can play and score in the premiership and shown they bring a lot to the team. After the Doncaster and Birmingham games it should be a discussion of McCormack or Woodrow to start.We have not looked the same fluid cohesive attacking team since Woodrow has been missing
Well, it would seem that today's players scored a couple of goals and opened up the Birmingham defence a few times, this is more than we have seen for a while and therefore Rodders and McCormac should start against Bolton.
